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June 3, 2008

Y2Kyoto: Reality Bites

Planet Gore

A new report by Cambridge Energy Research Associates finds that “rising materials costs, engineering challenges, and installation snags threaten European goals to dramatically expand wind power.” The report assesses as unlikely the European Union’s goal of getting 20 percent of its energy from renewables by 2020 without massive new government subsidies.

An article in the New Zealand Herald is blunt: “How to meet the lofty target is a puzzle. Clean renewables are still in their infancy yet will be required to deliver gigawatts of power when many fossil-fuel and nuclear power stations are at the end of their operational life.”

In Sweden, of course, all nukes are at the end of their life thanks to the government’s nearly 30-year ban. In the face of this blunder, Sweden’s government has postponed its 2010 deadline as it scrambles to find a solution to its aging utility infrastructure and emissions ceiling.

Posted by Kate at June 3, 2008 1:47 AM
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FWIW, I'd strongly suggest that people take everything CERA says with a (large) grain of salt.

Posted by: Samuel at June 3, 2008 3:18 AM

And FWIW...isn't it funny how for fourty years,the greenies have been fighting the one true renewable energy resource we have; nuclear. Instead of admitting their mistake,they try to foist Koyoto on us. Typical socialist elitists. "WE CAN'T BE WRONG", even though the truth is biting their asses,but not hard enough yet.

Posted by: Justthinkin at June 3, 2008 4:51 AM

and there are still no sunspots and the planet continues its cooling trend into year eleven.

Posted by: Fred at June 3, 2008 8:31 AM

FWIW, I'd strongly suggest that people take everything CERA says with a (large) grain of salt.

Why? because you dont agree with them.

Posted by: bob at June 3, 2008 9:24 AM

Poor Samuel, still dosn't realize he is a dual purpose idiot, useful to the left, useless to the right and progressive people. Carry on Samuel, and you two will freeze in the dark of your mothers apartment.

Posted by: bartinsky at June 3, 2008 9:48 AM

Alternative energy sources will eventually have their day in the Sun but technological progress marches at its own speed. After all, you can't just snap your fingers and find a cure for cancer!

Posted by: Earl the Pearl at June 3, 2008 9:58 AM

If the United States had listened to the greenies in the 1930's, and the TVA,the Hoover dam and similar projects not been constructed,the Axis powers would have won the second world war! There would NOT been enough electrical energy to have made the war material and to construct the atomic bomb.The US built HALF of ALL the airplanes constructed during WW2.

Posted by: spike 1 at June 3, 2008 10:11 AM

Ah yes, the new "Great Leap Forward". This time into the Green Kingdom of EverGore.

How, how, how to meet the lofty target ...

Posted by: John Lewis at June 3, 2008 10:14 AM

Wind power isnt so enviromentaly frendly after all since these wind turbines are bird killers so much for what the lying murdering green pigs have hold us

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 3, 2008 10:58 AM

Patrick Moore has been warning of this for years.

Yet when it comes to air time at the CBC;

Suzuki, wall to wall.

Moore, zilch.

So the question is - are the head honchoes at the Mother Corp born that way or does Journalism School train them to be stupid ?

Posted by: ron in kelowna at June 3, 2008 11:18 AM

Ron In K ..... The prerequisite for being in management at the CBC is that they live by inhaling their own fumes.
Suzuki is on because he is in the fume pipe.
Patrick Moore and anyone like him are from "OUTSIDE"... and therefore alien to the CBC.

I still am a supporter of wind power in spite of all the problems and the nay saying about economics of it. Sometimes you need to learn how to make the most of what you have got to work with.

Yet on the subject of nuclear power generation ... we should be well invested in this in Canada for the reason that our Hydro capability is not unlimited or ubiquitous. Funny how the provinces and regions that most need the nuclear electric power to sustain and grow have been at the forefront of shutting it down !

Posted by: OMMAG at June 3, 2008 12:00 PM

Not a fully balanced argument. At the risk of drawing fire it seems . . .

** Sweden’s government has postponed its 2010 deadline as it scrambles to find a solution to its aging utility infrastructure and emissions ceiling.**

. . .that Sweden is making efforts to do the right thing. *Scrambling* in fact, to reduce pollution, reduce dumping poisons into land and sea.

Canada by contrast seems content to pin its future on tar sands.

I would prefer Canada *scramble* a little more to make the clean-up and back-up moves required for a more stable future.

We have plenty of *aging utility infrastructure * to upgrade too. The latest in powerline work is in the news. Protest demonstrations south of Vancouver trying to stop power line xmission for Vancouver Island.

Its never easy to do the right thing. = TG

Posted by: TG at June 3, 2008 12:07 PM

PS:

Builders, developers are quietly building great gobs of townhouse and apartment complexes all over our east-central Vancouver Island.

They must be certain *ALL* rich Albertans and prairie dwellers will soon move here.

In any case, unless all those dwellings come with microwave only, there is a BIG jump in power needs coming, and soon too. = TG

Posted by: TG at June 3, 2008 12:18 PM

Vitruvius, do the archives have "Wind Power" by Thomas Dolby anywhere? I keep wanting to tell the DJ to cue it up at times like these.

Posted by: ebt at June 3, 2008 4:02 PM

Thanks for the usual personal attacks, oh open minded readership of SDA. I was pointing out to whatever portion of the readership that isn't familiar with CERA, that CERA are bunch of hacks. They may well be right on this one (a broken clock and all that).

Please, do your own research on that one, I'm sure you wouldn't trust me anyway.

Also, it amuses the heck out of me that a conservative fellow like myself has been branded a "lefty" because of a few differences of opinion on some social and scientific issues.

"Wait, you don't hate muslims and you think that global warming is the most likely outcome of pumping billions of extra tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere every year? GGGRRRRRRR STAMPA STAMPA LIBRUL!!!!!!! I'M GOING TO CALL YOU AN IDIOT AND USE THE INCORRECT FORM OF THE WORD "TOO" IN THE SAME SENTENCE!!!"

Get a grip.

Posted by: Samuel at June 3, 2008 10:29 PM

Patrick Moore was one of the origional founders of GREENPEACE but he left becuase GREENPEACE became too radical and GREENPEACE are nothing but a bunch of pirates

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 4, 2008 10:36 AM
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