Thanks, Cjunk, for your support of the reality that Christianity, by and large, is a religion of peace, reason, and sanity, while Islamofascism is a religion of violence and forceful coerscion.

Far too many very entitled and privileged Westerners who, ironically, have benefited the most from our democracies based on Judeo-Christian values, seem to like to debunk and ridicule the Judeo-Christian faith.

While Westerners enjoy sitting on democracy's branches, underneath the comforting shade of their leafy canopies, the tree they're attached to is systematically being axed at its root.

What's it going to take for Westerners to wake up to reality and to acknowledge that Christianity is the shelter in the storm--worthy of being respected and maybe even investigated as something positive--not the big, bad boogey man it's been portrayed as in our latter-day dystopias?

'Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face: How about cutting out the root to fell the tree--of democracy?

Can we get any more degenerate and perverse?

Actually, I don't think the jounalist was being thick headed. He brought up the arguments that her critics have used against her for her to knock out of the park.

Basically he gave her a forum to answer her critics without the chanting death threats.

Good work by both!

They won't get it when their brains are on mute all the time.

i'm always surprised disappointed to hear her boldly proudly assert she is an atheist.

now SHE would make a wonderfully effective convert to the catholic faith.

" Actually, I don't think the jounalist was being thick headed. He brought up the arguments that her critics have used against her for her to knock out of the park. " Posted by John 7:09 pm

John, you got it exactly right!
What a brave woman, I know she has been threatened with death and requires strict security. She left the Netherlands for a year or two it became so dangerous for her there. She, Geert Wilders, Mark Steyn, Ezra Levant all see the issues that are crippling our societies very clearly. Best we all listen and decide how to proceed.They are truly small voices in the wilderness.

Hirisi Ali is the business. That chick has stones like Gibraltar. I don't know if I agree with absolutely -everything- she says, but frankly I don't care. She can crash at my pad any time.

Hirsi Ali's point seems to be the most basic one in psychology. As Doctor Phil puts it: "First you've got to get it." In short, there is no hope of solving a problem you pretend doesn't exist. And an inordinate number of Muslims and non-Muslims seem to be in complete denial of this very violent and chauvinistic streak that is present at the very core of Muslim scriptures.
It's like treating an alcoholic, ninety percent of the struggle is getting the alcoholic to admit he has a problem with the booze. The remaining ten percent is actually dealing with the problem once he's acknowledged it.
Likewise the violent streak in Islam. Until people are willing to acknowledge that there is this very violent element written right into the "source code" as it were of Islam it will be impossible for non-Muslims, but more importantly Muslims themselves, to deal with and extirpate the effects of this violent streak and adapt to a modern, reformed, and hopefully more peaceful expression of the religion.
Christianity went through the reformation precisely because the abuses of the church became too glaring to be ignored. Islam is due for its reformation.

I greatly admire Hirsi Ali.

But why does it take an ex-Muslim, not a Westerner herself (Ali is becoming one, by choice) to be heard and respected?

Why can't we hear and respect the prophetic voices in our own culture, who our elites/popular culture have denigrated?

(To answer that question, which is more than rhetorical, we can go back to the Judeo-Christian Scriptures: A prophet is without honour in his own country.)

That's another thing I love about the Good Book: It's right on when it comes to human nature. It recognizes the foibles of FALLEN human nature--which doesn't mean it's an easy pill to swallow, and sure as heck doesn't get drowsy Canadians off the hook: WAKE UP!!!!!

John wrote: "Actually, I don't think the jounalist was being thick headed. He brought up the arguments that her critics have used against her for her to knock out of the park."

I agree that the "journalist" was not simply thick-headed. No one, not even a journalist, could be quite that obtuse. But neither do I think he was on her side. What I sensed as I watched him and listened to him was a deep perversion, a willful determination to see black as white and white as black, delivered in a soft voice calculated to indicate "reasonableness". I did not understand his attitude and admit to being angered by it. Perhaps it was nothing more than a talk-show host doing what a talk-show host must do: fan "controversy". But I fear that more than mere show business was invloved.

There's something wrong with the sound for that Hirsi Ali video. Anybody else experiencing the same thing? It's barely audible.

Louise:
Sound was OK for me. Check the volume control on your speakers?

ah yes, the "turn the other cheeckers" forget that their religion was pretty much down the toilet before it was fished out and dried off, and updated. If kristianity is based on the "word" of god, how did it ever git to the point of needing to be dragged into modern times, it should have lead, it didn't. Now it's cousin religion, one of the other abrahamic religions needs to be fished out of the toilet, and while we are toilet fishing, lets not forget those orthidox jewish wackjobs that still treat wimin like third class citizens!!!!

point is, it's not just muslims, IT'S RELIGION, the belief in a fairy tale can lead to some damning behaviour!!!!

Religion is a fairytale?

What bedtime stories are you reading, GYM?

OK, Gym, let's start at the beginning. God made man to do his will, but also gave him free will. So, naturally we screwed up. We didn't follow his word. Then things got ugly.

So it went from there - men deciding what the word of God was. Fast forward four thousand years, and it's happening to Islam, screwing up needing to "reform," because some immams think only they can transmit the word, and will, of God. The rerun continues.

Dubya can have as many prayer meetings as he wants and this will not change. People need to understand the affairs of men are rarely the will of God, given our sinful nature.

It's not really that complicated. The really cool part is you don't have to believe it. That's up to you. No beheadings, excommunications or that sort of thing.

No conversion at the point of a sword, that's the ticket; it wouldn't be sincere anyway.

Gym convenienly ignores the fact that religion is a universal human phenomenon. There is no human culture that doesn't have one.

Atheism is a religion, Gym. Pretty coercive one too, you ask me. Now, you were saying?

"Atheism is a religion" and I might add the most deadly one.

Like the poster above, the sound was nearly inaudible for me. I had to stop 1/3 way in, because I could barely hear her.

This woman is a hero.

Atheism is a religion. Ridiculous. Now, you were saying ...

GYM,

The so-called Christian reformation had nothing to do with the texts of the NT, or Christ's life example. None of this was changed or edited out, because it did not need to be. It was the corrupt institutions and policies that had to be changed, largely emanating from the Catholic church.

Islam, on the other hand, cannot reform without the rejection of Mohammad, much of the Medina based Quran, most of the Hadiths and Sira. This is the source of foundational violence, racism, misogyny, supremacism and conquest inherent in Islam.

Now, given that the five pillars and all of shariah are not from the Quran, but from the Hadiths and Sira; and also given that there exists no central theological body in Islam - it's highly unlikely Islam can reform.

Islam's corruption and violence isn't just based in its institutions, the foundation is in the texts of the trilogy and the acts and sayings of its founder and prophet.

Comprende? Or would you prefer to remain obtuse?

Atheism is a religion. Ridiculous.

Does it have the ear marks of a religion?
1. A belief system? Check
2. An elite that perpetuates the belief? Check
3. A method of countering opposing opinion? Check
4. A mythology of how we now exist? Check
5. A mythology of end times? Check
6. A mythology of human perfection? Check

Atheism is a religion? Not so ridiculous.

Re: Joe

"Does it have the ear marks of a religion?
1. A belief system? Check
2. An elite that perpetuates the belief? Check
3. A method of countering opposing opinion? Check
4. A mythology of how we now exist? Check
5. A mythology of end times? Check
6. A mythology of human perfection? Check"

I'm not trying to be disrespectful Joe, but I'm an atheist, and I don't have a "check" for any of those. In fact I'd go so far as to say, inasmuch as it may be defined, the absence of a "check" is part of what defines atheism for me.

I'm not concerned with your faith (except that I'm glad if it works for you), and I'm not going to try to change your mind, or somehow enlighten you. I certainly don't feel superior, or elite, because I'm an atheist. I know some do though. To hell with them ;-)

Re: Joe

"Does it have the ear marks of a religion?
1. A belief system? Check
2. An elite that perpetuates the belief? Check
3. A method of countering opposing opinion? Check
4. A mythology of how we now exist? Check
5. A mythology of end times? Check
6. A mythology of human perfection? Check"

I'm not trying to be disrespectful Joe, but I'm an atheist, and I don't have a "check" for any of those. In fact I'd go so far as to say, inasmuch as it may be defined, the absence of a "check" is part of what defines atheism for me.

I'm not concerned with your faith (except that I'm glad if it works for you), and I'm not going to try to change your mind, or somehow enlighten you. I certainly don't feel superior, or elite, because I'm an atheist. I know some do though. To hell with them ;-)

Jimbo there are lots of 'Christians', 'Muslims', 'LDS' and 'JWs' who have no idea what their religion is all about but their ignorance doesn't take away from the fact that there are religions called Christianity, Islam etc. You've never bothered to dig into your belief system, oh well. It shows your lack of interest not the lack of religiosity of atheism. Those of us who study religion recognize atheism as a religion that is being spread through our educational institutions and MSM aimed at the uniformed and those who lack critical thought. When I was young, uninformed and lacked critical thought I was an atheist. When I grew up I put childish ways behind me.

I happen to believe that it is not Islam that is to blame - it's the primitive cultures that follow it. Give an Arab any excuse for chauvinism and aggression and he will embrace it. Islam originated in medieval times amongst tribal nomads who haven’t really changed much since. We are dealing with medieval people with money!
But some interesting stuff on Christianity from the experts, and since they obviously know what they writing about, I do need some advice from them, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them:
a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord (Lev.1:9). The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of ‘menstrual uncleanliness’ (Lev.15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Americans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadian slaves?
e) I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
f) A friend of mine feels that even the thought of eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. I'm convinced it is an abomination that is quite serious and must be stopped throughout Canada. Can you settle this?
g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves, or will playing football and touching the pigskin ball make me perpetually unclean in a way that cannot be undone?
j) My uncle has a very nice garden. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of threads (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to the trouble of getting a crowd together to stone them? (Lev. 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

Whorehouse piano player:

You should ask those questions of your local Jewish Rabbi. We Christians are not under the law but under Grace so none of your questions are relevent to us.

BTW I disagree with your first point as well.