Excellent! I wish I could be there!

I am Mark Steyn,feel FREE to offend. Works for me.

My submissions:

- BCHRC: Punishing one Right after another.
- HRC's: Freedom of the Press today, Freedom of Thought tomorrow.
- HRC's: Don't worry your head, we'll punish them.
- HRC's: "Freedom of Speech is an American concept"
- HRC's: Orwell screwed up the year.

Cheers,
lance

Why would Mark Steyn bother to show up, the verdict has already been determined.

"Muslims are breeding like mosquitoes"

A European female journalist whose name escapes me stated "Muslims are breeding like rates".

She was naturally castigated.

It's a rather crude and rude way of saying "Muslims have a high birth rate"

By using insects and vermin in allusions, one weakens the arguments and discussion points laying one open to charges of racism.

Canuckguy,

Splain ... How can it be considered racism? It is no different that saying catholics are breeding like mosquitoes. There is no race implied, but rather, a religious sect.

I don't think canuck guy is refuting the statement. I believe that he has heard the familiar refrain from the apologists way too often. When confronted with facts about Islam,many automatically yell 'RACISM' at the top of their lungs. This allows them to feel morally superior and usually results in the debate being over for different reasons. 1;you realize that you are talking to a fool, 2; no one likes to be called a racist,even when the allegation is totally baseless,3;you do not want to spend time in the hoosegow for opening a little window in their skull to allow more oxygen to their brain.

You took the words right out of my mouth Wally.

And John V, if it makes you happy, replace 'racist' with 'bigot'. Bigot covers more ground.

"...charges of racism"

Since when is Islam a race?

...was thinking of bigot too, but Websters isn't bold enough to say "religious group".

"a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"

Canukguy, Oriana Fallaci is the name you are having difficulty with. You should read her work. She was an impressive author,and a hell of a great reporter. She wasn't just "castigated" for her work by the way. Do some digging. Try Jihad Watch, or perhaps read some of Robert Spencer's works.

"...charges of racism"

Since when is Islam a race?
Posted by: tomax7

errrrr tomax7 you are using logic have you been on mars and missed what was happening at HRC's?
;)

Canuckguy, the "Muslims...mosquitoes" comment in Steyn's work was one particularly objected to by the actual HRC complainant, El Masry, and by the sock-puppets who have been fronting for him; the problem is, Steyn was quoting a prominent Norwegian imam, and has sourced the statement publically for the perpetually-offended ... naturally, it has made no difference that it was a Muslim who actually said it, they still complain of it, and complain, and complain, and complain....

did you see that TVO debate between Mark Steyn and his complainants?
these are Osgoode Hall law graduates?
God help their clients

At the end they say Hitler was a Christian and muse whether all Christians thought like him.

Sorry Hitler was a pagan.

Is that hate or what?

They big thing they miss is whay are they going after m,ark for hate and not people who want to chop off the PM's head. Or who want to blow up subways, or smash airplanes into buildings. Oh thats not real hate wasn't done by white Christians....

Lying is a Canadian value,

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN;
Pardon him Theodotus; He is a barbarian and thinks that the customs of his tribe and his island are the laws of nature.
George Bernard Shaw
"Cesar and Cleopatra"

"We Are Mark Steyn"

"Keep Your Bureaucrats Off Our Thoughts"

Support your CHRC
Make the charter start at section 3

i subscibe to rush limbaugh

i am the last conservative in canada

burdon or not

the rrrrrrrrrrr is stuckrrrr

Brad - "God help their clients"

I don't think that'll be a problem. The TVO host was on Dennis Miller's radio show. Apparently for some strange and absolutely inexplicable reason, the 'Osgoode 3' can't find anybody to hire them.

Or

"Keep Your Filthy Hands Off Our Thoughts"

The issue “breeding like mosquito’s” has everything to do with the rights of an author or publisher in Canada to quote and then publish the words of an independent news source.

Why aren’t the sock puppets outraged at the Norwegian Imam who stated the innocuous and accurate metaphor?

They have proven beyond doubt that their intent to disrupt our legal system is belying the true agenda, to push their “Muslim Canada” offensive. The goal is to silence publishers and strong arm Canadians to fear the Muslim like any gang or mafia that recently moved into the neighborhood. They are threatening our livelihoods by using our own institutions as their muscle if we refuse to pay their ransom(s).

As in Europe they will not stop! Regardless of the HRC outcome they are the winners. If they “lose” (what’s for them to lose?) they continue the process anew with someone else somewhere else and will grind Canadians down day by day, year by year. It will never end until the Canadian people speak as a country and say enough is enough.

Thoughts for a sign:

Why tolerate the intolerant.

If they can't tolerate us why do we tolerate them?

obviously it's time for a GROUP HUG. Mark, Ezra and the rest of you infidels gather together while we recite the Lords Prayer...our Father

'I stand with Steyn. Mark my word - Freedom'

" A Steyn in the eye of CHRC"

who art in Heaven hallowd be thy name

thy Kingdom come on Earth as it is in Heaven.

...at least I brought the beer and popcorn

This is an important video which should be widely distributed to Canadian Members of Parliament as well as Provincial legislatures, to get their views on the issue. Mark is right, this is one of the most fascinating and important topics for discussion of our time.

These 3 young lawyers are feeling threatened and insecure about their position in our society, and rightfully so. But in using their legal skills to fight negative perceptions of Islam, instead they may only adding to it. They clearly don't fully understand the 'can of worms' that they inadvertently triggered, and the greater dialogue in Canada, with and within the Muslim community that must come out of this matter, if we are to bridge the obvious divide.

Mark and McLean's are not the problem here. They are just the messengers. Mark reports on what he sees happening in the world,and backs up his viewpoint with facts and context. This is the time honored tradition of a free press. Mark and McLean's in no way advocated hated, they only reflected back the images and words of Muslim leaders. These young lawyers didn't like what they saw, but attacked the wrong target. If they want to be listened to, they should speak out loudly against those Muslims who preach hated and violence. Unfortunately, they are very likely to be beaten up or even murdered from within their own communities should they hold such views.

These young people need to grow a thicker skin, and concentrate on cleaning up their own houses first. How about devoting their legal expertise to fighting for the rights of their less fortunate Muslim sisters in repressive Islamic regimes? That would get them a tons of respect and acceptance in Canadian society at large.

But in the meanwhile, stop whining!

This is an important video which should be widely distributed to Canadian Members of Parliament as well as Provincial legislators, to get their views on the issue. Mark is right, this is one of the most fascinating and important topics for discussion of our time.

These 3 young lawyers are feeling threatened and insecure about their position in our society, and rightfully so. But in using their legal skills to fight negative perceptions of Islam, instead they may only adding to it. They clearly don't fully understand the 'can of worms' that they inadvertently triggered. Hopefully, a largr dialogue, with and within the Muslim community in Canada, will result from this matter. It must, if we are to bridge the obvious divide, and if we are to preserve free speech.

Mark and McLean's are not the problem here. They are just the messengers. Mark reports on what he sees happening in the world,and backs up his viewpoint with facts and context. This is the time honored tradition of a free press. Mark and McLean's in no way advocated hated, they only reflected back the images and words of Muslim leaders. These young lawyers didn't like what they saw, but attacked the wrong target. If they want to be listened to, they should speak out loudly against those Muslims who preach hated and violence. Unfortunately, they are very likely to be beaten up or even murdered from within their own communities should they hold such views.

These young people need to grow a thicker skin, and concentrate on cleaning up their own houses first. How about devoting their legal expertise to fighting for the rights of their less fortunate Muslim sisters in repressive Islamic regimes? That would get them a tons of respect and acceptance in Canadian society at large.

But in the meanwhile, stop whining!

[QUOTE]These young lawyers didn't like what they saw, but attacked the wrong target. If they want to be listened to, they should speak out loudly against those Muslims who preach hated and violence. [/QUOTE]

I always thought that Lawyers must have a paying Client, or they have no Standing (unethical)

The commentary below is circulating on the internet and provides an excellent historical context for us to view the current rising tide of militant Islam. Let us not forget George Santayana's remarkable insight: 'Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.'

A German's point of view on Islam.

A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis 'he said,' but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true,

it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is that the

fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.

It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 5 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. The hard quantifiable fact is that the 'peaceful majority', the 'silent majority', is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:

Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.

Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghanis, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

"keep your thought police out of my head"
"I will say whatever I damn well please"

Fight for downtrodden women in the ME? That would mean someone would have to admit that the ME is full of stone age tin pot women beating mullahs.

Can't do that now. Because, remember, big bad whitey is responsible for every problem on this planet.

FREE MARK STEYN!
VOTE REFORM!
GO ARMY!

"Its my brain, I'll think what I want." On the back it says "And you can kiss my @ss, too!"

"You can get more loot with a CHRC complaint than you can with a gun and a smile"

"CHRC: Whiners 'R' Us."

"1984 was meant to be a nightmare, not a social plan."

"George Orwell: Spinning in his grave." On the back it says "He's hitting 10,000 rpm today."

"In People's Republic of Canada, TV watches YOU."

It's fine for the Muslim students, Elmasry, etc., to complain and expect apologies and compensation for the supposed violations of their particular 'human rights.'

However, first a demand:

Denounce Mohammad's actions and sayings. Denounce the beheading of 900 innocent Jewish men of the Qurayza tribe, that Mohammad not only ordered, but participated in. Denounce his raping of the 9 year old girl Aisha. Denounce the 70 offensive wars that he ordered and participated in that killed thousands. Denounce his ordering of the assassination of the 3 poets in Mecca.

Denounce Sharia. Denounce the laws that make it right to kill a kaffir without punishment; that make it right to stone to death an adulterer; that make it right to chop off the limbs of a thief; that make it right to throw a homosexual from the tallest building; that create dhimmi slaves and make them pay jizya tax.

Apologize for the estimated 270 million non-muslims murdered by the adherents of Islam.

Apologize for the untold millions of slaves taken in the name of Islam.

Apologize for and denounce the human rights violations, violence and utter destruction ordered by the Quran and Mohammad.

Denounce and reject the violent and perverted commands in the Quran, Hadith and Sira.

Denounce and reject the outright hate and racism prevalent throughout the Quran, Hadith and Sira.

Denounce the imperialism, supremacism and conquest ideology of political Islam and everything that resulted from it, including the theft of all lands now occupied by Islam.

Apologize for and denounce the many holocausts perpetrated on non-Muslims by Muslims, including the slaughter of the Armenians and Greeks by the Ottoman Turks; the Hindus thoughout India, Pakistan and Bangaladesh; the Sudanese; etc., etc.

Call for all Islamic countries to officially sign on to and enforce the UN's universal declaration of human rights.

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This is the argument that must be taken in full force, without wavering to Muslims who complain about violations of their human rights.

Slogan suggestion

"Free speech is also a Canadian right"

There are hundreds of Muslims who practice polygamy in Canada. And many who collect welfare from a nation they freely desire replaced with a Sharia totalitarian government.

teejay, we can't change anything islamic. it is written in the koran and hadiths and other islamic teaching. it will never change and expecting it to is naive.

I wonder how B.C.'s HRC is going to reserve judgement on this one. Alberta's HRC hearing with Ezra will seem somewhat tame by comparison. I expect that there will be a strong idealogical debate between the HRC and Steyn, not merely a nervous but quiet note taking bureaucrat.

Maybe there might even be an effort to shut up Steyn part way through the hearing with a mighty self righteous leftist roar so he'll sit like a good boy and take his medicine for his obvious cultural hate affliction. I can hardly wait for that Norman Rockwell moment.

Bring video cameras to the protests outside the human rights commission tomorrow morning. Video doesn't lie, if there is trouble from Jihadist supporters.

Is the hearing going to be video taped inside the hearing? The people of Canada need to see first hand what is happening because the folks who run these things can't be trusted to tell the truth.

"Muslims are breeding like mosquitoes"
As matter of facts in past 25 years the number of Muslim are reduced:
one million Iranian Muslim died in Iran -Iraq war using United stated weapon and germani chemical weapon

one million Iraqi died during war in Iraq

One million Afagani died

One million Lebenes and Palatinian by hand of Jewish

10,000 Pakstani died in war in India

200,000 Muslim died in Sorbia and Romanian conflict

100,000 Kordish Muslim died in conflict with neighbors

at least 50 Muslim died in september 11 attack in Unted stated

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we conclude teh Mark Steyn is racist and hate human right to generlize Muslim growth

if you compare Russia is first second are chinnese and third is United Stated is these 3 countries has so many population and Canada is only big country not too many population

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something made Mark Steyn worry is number of population in relgion point of view

christian then Muslim then Hindo are biggest

Muslim popluation are 1.2 billion

something good about this religion Islam that is grow and too many peole of world change their religion to becom Muslim
even prince Diana liked Muslim
after prince Charls he like one Pakistani her family doctor then that Egyption we hear Price Diance plan to become Muslim that is reason tehy killed her as Muslim said that.

increase Muslim population are in fact decearsed in past 20 years over too many war but in general too many christian are changed tehir relgion to become Muslim

if we say number of Mark Styen who talked like Animal who talk against Muslim in Canada by pen of people like Mark Styen or that adulty woman Kathy Sheidle ( look at naked picture Kathy Sheidle put in her web page) are growing about Muslim I am sure he become upset too therefore offensive label to a nation is need to banned
If you research why Kathy Shaidle and Mark Styne are funded and get money from group who wrote about Muslim in bad and talk in Jewish are good
this is mix of dark race of middle eastern and grow of Islam

if you let people talk about Muslim it is you let
people talk bad abour your country Canada in gosip not for critic to fix it.

plus human right just pick few nobody people like Mark Styne to get lesson to made those red neck English and German Canadian backgroun get quiet politicaly

in politic when the movement is wrong country must find and punish few otherwise this becon internal fight among canadian who are multiculture groups.

Mark Styne is target here not really hater maybe but this is only to clam internal politic in Canada
if Kathy Sheidle talking within a second you know she is crazy but if Mark Styne talking since he look normal but he is not normal may attracted too many audince that he tell the truth and as you can see too many blogs think he is right becuae he has self confidence like Hitler to bring hate but still I think Mark guy you are sick man it is better stop talking hate against Muslim while I do not think Mark Styne may get punish for first time so bad may ask him to pay some small fine and let him go I do not think Mark going to go too much trouble but this act is politiclay not let him after that trial to talk more if he does for second time he will get arrested but not for first time for 99 % sure he become free this time I am not worry too much about his trail but I am worry that act and pen he wrote and let other to copy can damage Canada so mcuh hate against each otehr
if you show human act like insect and animal you are talking offensive that is wrong by law for eidtor in big Mclean magazine if Mark work in small magazine or blog like Kathy Sheidle nobody get bother think only he is or she is crazy ad pas by but Mclean magaizne has good name and not let this garbage editor work for them
close your eyse and think some guy out of Canada come and tell and name you bad and you are white English you Canada bunch of insects you did not like this pen also in conclusion what you like to hear or say do for others too do not gosip and hurt otehrs for enjoyment of selling magazine

You don't change ISLAM! You stop it, then isolate and quarantine it!

Quote: notagreewithmark at May 29, 2008 7:47 PM

Can ya post again in English please??? LOL if ya wanna be taken seriously speak at least one of our official languages pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

notagreewithmark is either a brainwashed idiot or a fake.

Sounds like "Hassan" is back. He should've taken that left turn at Albuquerque. Oh, well...ickety, ackety, oop.

Hey,you frigging quack. Your first statement about one million dead in Iraq is because you murderous fools are blowing each other up.Stop making grocery shopping a survival sport and then people don't die. Shall I translate that for you....You kno teh bumb go baalooey fromm my peeple to kill me otehr peepl and why don't you stup make us kell each other.Islam is peaceas.

Muslims are breeding like mosquitoes

They mate in the fall whereupon the male dies, but the female lives on and seeks a hiding place under leaf cover where a portion of her body's water is replaced biochemically with glycerol which protects her from freezing and allows her to survive temperature below the freezing point of water like mosquitos do? Then in spring they come out of hiding to look for a blood meal and a place to lay upward to 200 eggs? Like that exactly?

I take umbrage with that lede. See the problem with analogies? They're ALL logical fallacies. (