Over at the Globe and Mail, they have already cut off comments about Ted Kennedy. One comment that was left standing is "This family is cursed"...or something to that effect. Actually, the comment should be "This family is a curse".

"***UPDATE***Thom writes that my prediction came true within minutes of my posting it: Unsurprisingly, it was the easily-moved and sentimental Chris Matthews who handed the revived Camelot to Obama via Ted. Sometimes I scare myself. But it’s not that I’m so smart; it’s that these people are so pathetically predictable."

http://theanchoressonline.com/2008/05/20/kennedy-obama-hillarys-screams/

He became the patriarch in 1968.

That Ted Kennedy is being described as the Kennedy "patriarch" is an indication of the steepness of the clan's decline.

Just returning from whence they came. Their family history is a shakey one. Joe Kennedy Sr. was far better respected than perhaps he should have been. Stock manipulation, virulent anti-semitism, a strong supporter of Joseph McCarthy, and, according to Brits during the Battle of Britain, a coward... it's not good.

While we're at it, let's not forget that old Joe made his millions smuggling booze. It's an odd suggestion that Camelot might have been funded by organized crime.

Was it not Tedward Kennedy who stuck the "Osama" label on Obama to begin with?

I've always loathed Ted Kennedy but I take no pleasure in news of his impending demise, particularly in view of the cause.

Kennedy endorses Obama much to Clinton's surprise and chagrin.
A few weeks later he is diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor. Hmmmmmm??????

Politicians and their mouthpieces have been known to over dramatize before so I really don't want to jump the gun on the old "Swimmer" jumping the shark any time soon.

I do not look forward however to the fawning that will ensue should his diagnoses be grave. They will start naming buildings after this guy long before he assumes room temperature. He will be painted as yet another heroic Kennedy instead of the Black Sheep of a pretty good flock.

He could never hold a candle to either of his brothers, flaws or not. Longevity and absolutely no shame at all are his greatest assets and will be his only legacy.

Meanwhile,cocktail waitresses from Massachusetts to Florida and female congressional interns in DC will all be breathing a sigh of relief that they survived the Ted Kennedy Era.

Tom

I take no pleasure in his impending death.

Of course, if there was any justice, he'd be in the PRISON medical ward instead of the finest private New England that the Kenedy bootlegging fortune can afford.

Or, barring that, his death would better have come by way of hanging for the crime of killing a woman and walking away from her when she died.

That at least would be justice. But then you don't take pleasure at hanging a murderer.

the 'swimmer's" father when ambassador to the court of st james was caught conniving with the nasties in that when the nasties won HE....Joe would be the sole franchisee for the importation of Scotch liquor into the USA...

FDR had his number and shitcanned him.......tho i loved JFK...still do....he was a leader of men.......mind you i love Elizabeth Regina as well...She too is a leader of men.

I take no pleasure in the news, either, but there's something the knowledge that this is a man who once chose to leave a young woman to die, that has an eroding effect on my sympathy.

Amen to that. I'm sure that I'm far from the only one whose beliefs are being put to the test by this news.

"...a man who once chose to leave a young woman to die, that has an eroding effect on my sympathy."

Indeed, Kate. He has much to answer for, even before we consider his political transgressions.

Joe sold his sole to the devil and that’s the legacy of this family, rich by illegal means and an admirer of Hitler too boot. If it weren’t for Jacks almost causing a nuclear war the world would be better off forgetting about this lot.

Any accurate count yet on the number of volunteers who would liquor up the gelatinous old fool and offer to drive him home ... via the dike bridge at Chappaquiddick?

Cancer is a very ugly thing, which I wish on no one.

That said, better men than Ted Kennedy have gotten cancer.

I don't know about anyone else,but when I first heard 'seizures'and 'Ted Kennedy'mentioned on the news ,I thought he had been busted for booze and porn.

and to salve the sensitive souls let me play the goat here...i REVEL in the old whited sepulchre's demise....may he burn in hell for an eternity...i saw no expiation of guilt for his sins...ergo no christian redemption...and i speak as as much a mick and as much as roman catholic as that fatuous jowly privileged fortunate son....he never ever never did a goddamn thing for his fellow man that i can see....

let him be a memento mori for the rest of those trough swilling poseurs in the democratic party....i hiss and sneer at him...i shout out et in arcadia ego(in all it's multiplicities) you vain demented purple faced self interested fraud.

i'm a hard man to be sure but fundamentally a fair man....a Jehovah full of wroth if you care....sigh...the old Jehovah's gone out of fashion these days but i see an opportunity for a reprise coming down the pike.

"that has an eroding effect on my sympathy."

- Amount Sen Kennedy cares about anything you or any of the other sorry excuses on this forum do, say or think:

Zero.

Keep firing though! The negativity does wonders for your health, I hear.

angryflower, go take a long drive off a short bridge, preferably the one in Chappaquidick, where the Swimmer left his last lover.

Charles MacDonald:

Yes, it was Ted who introduced Barack O. as "Osama bin Laden" at a Democrat function. Here's a link to the video.

Let's Ask Osama ...

"The negativity does wonders for your health, I hear."

And yet, your name is 'angryflower'.

that's right angryflower....ZERO !...that's exactly what teddy cared about ANYONE in his whole worthless life.

Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne were driving along and Mary Jo says: "Teddy, I think I'm pregnant. What should we do about it?" Ted replies: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."

Well said Kate.

ted like me, will have lots to answer for when he is judged.

Value seen at the end of a man's life is based on the price paid along the way. Eddy permanently emptied his account years ago when he let a pregnant Mary Jo drown in his car one cold convenient night.

What will he use to pay the ferryman?

I don't think the truth was Ted's long suit., thus I have to wonder if it really is cancer. I am not normally skeptical, but when it comes to the Kennedy clan and Ted in particular, it seems wise.

Seizures happen to alcoholics. 60+ years of hard drinking could be the cause of his seizure. . His publicity machine may be in overdrive to cover up the real reason his health is failing.

It looks like the end of his drinking career is nigh one way or the other.

I would not wish cancer on any one, even him.

Ted Kennedy's greatest failure is that he embraced the McGovern wing of the Democrat Party, nowadays represented by Pelosi, Obama and their ilk. These are the same people that hated his brothers, both of whom were killed by Communists.

The talk of "Camelot" is a reminder - were he alive, JFK himself would be too conservative for the Republican nomination, and unthinkable as Democrat.

I feel no need to express angst or maudlin concern over the fate of Ted Kennedy. After all he could have spent his life in prison and developed cancer just as easily spending his life as he chose to.

I give you http://fatboy.cc/

kennedy = over-rated

I must confess, when I heard he'd had a seizure my first thought was "Stopped drinking eh?". Brain tumor's aren't nice. In a perfect world no one would get them and I would not dare to presume to say who deserves and doesn't deserve them. Like the line from the move "Unforgiven": "Well, I guess he had it comin'". "Kid, we all got it comin'". I can't say that I ever saw much to redeem Ted in his behavior or his pompous, self-righteous, hypocritical pronouncements. That being said, he simply was who he was, and far worse men have lived far more blessed lives than he. What dismayed me more was that a man so utterly and transparently base could be so adored by the press and his party, could show so many to be so willfully blind to who he was and could be chosen time and time again by the people of Massachusets to be their senator. It reinforces Churhill's pronouncement that "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others."

I would like to be able to chime along with the herd, with the standard "I take no pleasure etc." but I cannot. I am glad to see and end to this scoundrel.

So long, Chappaquidick Ted
You left her in your car for dead
Some thought you a knave
For leaving her in a watery grave
But as you do best, you went to bed.

So long, Chappaquidick Ted
You left her in your car for dead
Some thought you a knave
For leaving her watery grave
But as you do best, you went to bed.

(A little editing brings great improvement).

I hope the last thing he sees before he meets the devil is the last moments of "Mary Jo Kopechne" life as she died. I am glad he's the end of a era where the immoral Wealthy Elite were treated like royality.

I could careless how he dies or what takes his life, the man is evil personified.

Karma? ....What goes around, comes around?

No tears shed here!

I was listening to FOX News at work(God I love Sirius) when the news was breaking and I heard the terms "lion of the Senate", "lion of the Democrats" and then of course "lion of American politics" by three different leftists in about a twenty minute span.
It was as revolting as listening to MSNBC...

"You see Barack Obama at that rally surrounded by all those Kennedys? Man, I couldn't tell if he was running for president or bartender." --Jay Leno

Yes, angryflower

It's incredible isn't it? The news hits that a man has a malignant brain tumour and within minutes all the nobodies have to gather here like vultures to squeeze the pus out of their rancid hate-filled souls.

Kate deserves kudos, I guess, for providing this forum for all these oh-so-lonely fist-shakers - God knows what they'd get up to if they couldn't come here to puke up their bile!

john begley, as you cast Kennedy's soul into everlasting hell, you might want to check out your Bible, which will tell you that you are no Christian if you are so omniescently willing to condemn another to his everlasting deserts.

Rose - Kennedy is 'evil personified' - how so? For pushing through social programs to help the poor and disenfranchised for the last 30 years - the very thing Christ instructs his followers to do?

For the dopes who want to go back to ol' Joe Kennedy and hang his sins on Ted Kennedy too, are you so ignorant that you are unaware that the Kennedy family's elite privileged neighbours in Kennebunkport, the Bush family, had among its numbers Prescott Bush - GW Bush's grandfather - who did business with the companies who financed Hitler's rise to power...and actually had his profits seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act? Look it up!

(Some things don't change - witness the Bush family's business dealings with the Bin Laden family)

At least Ted Kennedy won't go to his grave as a war criminal like GW Bush!

I'm sure if any of the Kennedys heard about my imminent demise they'd weep uncontrollably...
Seriously, I never wish anybody dead, not because I'm noble, it's more fear of fate, karma and a bit of the Golden Rule. But it would be silly to pretend I'm concerned about someone who I didn't respect and lived a life of such privilege and power that he was practically on another planet.

Well I for one do take pleasure from seeing loathesome men like Teddy Kennedy die. I hope it hurts, Ted, you deserve every moment of it.

bolik ....all the nobodies have to gather here like vultures to squeeze the pus out of their rancid hate-filled souls.

Our hate filled soles?

souls

Bolik: Nothing to say about Ted's involvement in that girl's death I see.
Get over yourself drama queen, Ted the drunk belongs in prison.

Mike Kelley at 5:10 p.m. LOL. Good one Mike.

multirec

"Drama queen"? After the frothing at the mouth of you ghouls on hearing that a man has a malignant brain tumour? Please.

His involvement in that girl's death didn't have much impact on his constituency did it? They've re-elected and re-elected him.

One death versus the over four thousand that GW Bush is responsible for in his illegal war for oil based on lies - and which you guys all support.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Mary Jo Kopechne died July 18 1969 at the hands of the inebriated Ted Kennedy.

The one and only reason he didn't go to jail for 20 years is the fact of His Family name.

"I am glad he's the end of a era where the immoral Wealthy Elite were treated like royality."

I guess you have never heard of the Bush clan?

Bolik at 2015, my soul is not hate-filled. I just simply dispise the man because his private total lack of character and his total oratorical public posing are disjoint; he is a lying dog, a hypocrite; a patrician who tells the plebians to be happy with what they've got; a coward who talks about courage; a do nothing who talks of leadership.

A man who has all the benefits of US liberty and yet decries it.

Judge a man by his deeds, not his words. His most notable deed? Running away from Mary Jo.

A moonbat like bolik would likely vote for a Liberal candidate, even if that self-same candidate had raped and murdered his mother.

bolik @ 2048. The Kennedy's will always be voted in where they live. They are Les Seigneurs.

RW

Nice way to explain away Kennedy's continued re-election over the past 30 years.

Now how do you explain away Bush's standing as the most hated president of all time, pray tell?:)

So a Senior Politburo...errr Democrat has Cancer?

I didn't know cancer could get cancer.

Kennedy, a bloated alcoholic loser who has been riding on the nostalgia vote by the sentimental clueless that never figured out the vacuousness of the Kennedy family. My first reaction like DrD's while the MSM yakked on was that he had a seizure because he must have stopped the booze suddenly.

The lefty media anointed and made a myth out of this predatory and morally challenged family. Not all of us Irish Catholics fell for the crap. My Irish immigrant grandparents despised them as fakers.

bolack

and by who's law do define a war, any war , as legal or illegal?????the law of the UN??????the UN that stood by and did nothing as Rawanda died, the UN who profited from the food for oil, or is it the UN that can't enforce anything, like Sadam's flagrant breaking his commitment to the UN's law's??????

as for kenndy, I hope the brain tumour causes a drowning sensation that lasts for a long time!!!!

bolik,

I for one, am not hobbled with a looming almighty looking over my shoulder as you apparently are. I do not believe in God (or magic of any kind) and therefore have no inhibition in waving a happy good-bye to Ted. So don't bother laying the religion guilt trip on me.

I am also pretty sure that Christ didn't have a government run multi billion dollar welfare department along with hundreds of other sub-agencies to help the poor. I think he meant for individuals to be charitable. That's really all it would take if the government got out of the way.

Cruel that Teddy has cancer? Nope. The best thing that could happen to Western Democracy is that ALL of the illegal,drug and booze smuggling Kennedy clan dies,and quickly. I only hope Teddy the murderer suffers horribly before he goes to his rightful place in hell. Insensitive? Nope. DemoCrats and leftards are insensitive. Hey. Lets send him to Darfur for his last days!

"john begley, as you cast Kennedy's soul into everlasting hell, you might want to check out your Bible, which will tell you that you are no Christian if you are so omniescently willing to condemn another to his everlasting deserts."

How do you know john is a christian? Maybe he is a muslim in which caes I presume its OK with you.

Horny Toad

The lies of Ted Kennedy...

Concerning the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965:

"During debate on the Senate floor, Senator Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the act, said, "First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia ... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think ... The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.)

Regarding the 1986 Immigration and Reform Control Act (the first amnesty of illegal immigrants), Senator Kennedy predicted: "This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this."

After the CIR was defeated Kennedy was incensed. When he said the following he was shouting these lies:

"We know what they're against, we don't know what they're for. Time and time again they tell us "We don't like this provision, we don't like that provision, we don't want that part. Well they ought to be able to explain to the American people what they are for.

What are they going to do with the twelve and a half million who are undocumented here? Send them back? Send them back to countries around the world? More than $250 billion dollars, buses that would go from Los Angeles to New York and back again. Try and find them, develop a type of Gestapo here to seek out these people that are in the shadows. That's their alternative?"

Teds only legacy is that he didnt die young.

He was left with a very swollen grayed visage of a Kennedy , the true mark of K(ain)

Why is it that every leftist on the planet has to bring up George Bush in every conversation, no matter what the topic? How can they be so unbelievably insecure?

I took a little pleasure on hearing of Teddyboy's medical problem. I would have taken much pleasure if it happened 35 years ago.

hey john v

Christ's injunction to help the poor would get expressed through his follower's political sympathies, wouldn't they? And such followers wouldn't be voting right-wing to help the rich crush the poor. They'd be voting the other side.

(Yes, yes, we know how the evangelicals have reduced Christ's message to abortion and bigotry against gays - two subjects on which He never spoke one word. Yes, we know they do this to co-opt Christ's name for political power and they sure as heck aren't interested in Christ's central tenet of helping the poor when their main interest is screwing the poor- but they still want to coopt His name somehow)

But why you are so interested in what Christ did or didn't say about helping the poor when you don't even believe in God?

"Now how do you explain away" - this Democrat-majority Congress' - "standing as the" - lowest polling Congress - "of all time, pray tell?" ;-p

So Caesar (paternalistic government) should be helping the poor more than the man who tithes to his church, who then provide services to missions in urban centres?

Bolik,

The reasons Ted Kennedy was continually re-elected are three:

1 - Money. How else does a Mor(m)on like Mitt Romney get elected governor?

2 - Sympathy. He got in the first couple of times because people still remembered Jack and Bobby. But, most important:

3 - The Senate seniority system. Currently, only Robert Byrd has more time in the Senate than Kennedy. This gives Kennedy enormous clout on a number of committees, which of course ensures he can deliver the pork to his state. Follow the money!

On the announcement of Senator Kennedy's medical condition, Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment ...

On the announcement of Senator Kennedy's medical condition, Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment ...

sorry bollocks..deuteronomy is rather ambiguous....so let's not be overly literal about these things....'kay ?

While I have never been a follower of the "Camelot" schtick, I do not get any joy from anyone or the family that has to deal with cancer.

That being said, I will not mourn the passing of Ted kennedy at all.

It is also nice to see old bullocks trying to rile everyone with his "squeeze the pus" rantings. Better watch it Robert; I hear both the police and the CHRC are tapping into your internet activities.

p.s. sorry Kate.

Quote:Rose - Kennedy is 'evil personified' - how so? For pushing through social programs to help the poor and disenfranchised for the last 30 years - the very thing Christ instructs his followers to do?

He was a drunk that got re-elected by his leftard constituents because he told the weak lame and lazy what they wanted to hear.

Only the leftards would forget he killed an innocent woman, and only the left would lament his passing.

I feel very sorry that anybody would have to live with such a malignant, deadly, and profoundly evil thing. I'm talking about Kennedy, not the tumour.

FDR's telegram recalling defeatist traitor joseph kennedy from the court of st james..

"the liquor trade in boston is now challenging and the girls of hollywood more fascinating stop i expect you back here by saturday."

(Bolik)
Wow your memory is short. Ted Kennedy is a vile person. Not only did he leave Mary Jo to die he also made sure the support to S. Viet Nam was shut off after Nixon left office. Do you have any idea how many ten of thousands who died trying to escape or put into re-ed camps?

I take NO pleasure in his cancer, but his man has much to pay for.

I have contempt for most of what Ted Kennedy has espoused, many of his deeds and for his hypocrisies, particularly regarding Dubya and the War on Terror. However, I won't hate Kennedy the man. It would merely corrode my own heart; Kennedy wouldn't even be aware of my hate; or if he were aware, wouldn't care.

Most importantly, let's each of us reflect on our own failings, our own sins of omission and commission. That being said, here's a quote from Shakespeare's "Merchant of Venice":

"The quality of Mercy is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle raine from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest,
It blesseth him that gives, and him that takes...

...Therefore though Justice be thy plea, consider this,
That in the course of Justice, none of us
Should see Salvation: we do pray for Mercy,
And that same prayer doth teach us all to render
The deeds of Mercy."

Good comment 'Dave in Pa'.

Good Luck Ted Kennedy and Good Luck to your family.

Maybe in the future we will have a true accounting of your deeds (successes and failures) on earth.

Kennedy supported the terrorists in Northern Ireland for years till it became a vote loser. I won't lose any sleep over his passing.

Such a heartless bunch of bastards...and so perfect.

Teddy's made a special list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_brain_tumor_patients

They wasted no time in adding his name to the list. The countdown to the national day of mourning has begun. The golden throne has been commissioned to bear the weight of the stricken King for his going away party in Denver before he takes his rightful position as a hero in the halls of Asgaard.

Many kind words and tears will be spilled over those days. The eulogy will be practiced in his presence by the loud nattering voices from his murder of crows. But all the celebration will be shadowed by the ghost of Mary Jo. The haunting will soon be over and he will be given over to her fate. As the precipice looms larger each passing day so will his last memory of her face.

Hey Rose

Only the Right would excuse Bush's lying about sending 4000 people to their deaths for oil, and among those only amoral fascist personality cultists like yourself (i.e., the 25% dead enders) would continue to defend his idiotic anti-democractic policies.

I guess the contempt you have for the voters of Mass. for repeatedly re-electing Kennedy is matched by your contempt for 80% of Americans who have decisively rejected Bush and his policies.

Hard being the only in the world who's right, huh, Rose?

I guess the contempt you have for the voters of Mass. for repeatedly re-electing Kennedy is matched by your contempt for 80% of Americans who have decisively rejected Bush and his policies.

No doubt you agree with the majority about the leftist controlled Congress of which only 18% approve.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/05/14/approval_of_us_congress_ties_record_lows/4833/

DrD quotes Churchill correctly and I agree with his assesments. Lets be thankful that we can express our thoughts freely. Ted is no angel. There are very few of them. I wonder how many of you are.

yes, old hoss

They don't approve of the Dems which they gave control of congress to in 2006 because said Dems haven't stopped the war of your Feuhrer as they were put in power to do.

joke-
Ted kennedy walks into a bar with a malignant tumor on his brain-
bartender asks 'how did that get there'
the tumor says, 'it started out as a wart on my ass'.