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May 13, 2008

Y2Kyoto - the attack of the killer corn flakes

Cereal killer warning over corn flakes:

CLIMATE change could lead to "killer cornflakes" with the most potent liver toxin ever recorded, an environmental health conference has been told.

The effects of the toxins, known as mycotoxins, have been known since the Middle Ages when rye bread contaminated with ergot fungus was a staple part of the European diet, environmental health researcher Lisa Bricknell of Central Queensland University (CQU) said.

"People started suffering mass hallucinations, manic depression, gangrene, abortions, reduced fertility and painful, convulsive death," Ms Bricknell told the 10th World Congress on Environmental Health in Brisbane today.

Update: And in other news, a greenie muses about why hysterical doomsayers are losing the debate:

When I launched the TalkClimateChange forums last year, I was initially worried as to where I would find people who didn’t believe in global warming. I had planned to create a furious debate, but in my experience global warming was such a universally accepted issue that I expected to have to dredge the slums of the internet in order to find a couple of deniers who could keep the argument thriving.

The first few days were slow going, but following a brief write-up of my site by Junk Science I was swamped by climate skeptics who did a good job of frightening off the few brave Greens who slogged out the debate with. Whilst there was a lot of rubbish written, the truth was that they didn’t so much frighten the Greens away - they comprehensively demolished them with a more in depth understanding of the science, cleverly thought out arguments, and some very smart answers.

Those nasty skeptics, ridiculing hysterical forecasts and then demonstrating a more in depth understanding of the science - that's just not fighting fair!

Posted by Jaeger at May 13, 2008 9:13 PM
Comments

....environmental health researcher Lisa Bricknell of Central Queensland University (CQU) said.....

It seemed like yesterday we all concurred that nothing could get more useless and stupider than a women's studies job and then this comes along. But, then, how wasted is your life if that was your journalism assignment and outcome.

The chances of being killed by a rogue cornflake versus a car accident or a heart attack or cancer or a mugger are what?

Posted by: penny at May 13, 2008 9:35 PM

You tink its IZZY to be vert?

Posted by: Stephie at May 13, 2008 9:41 PM

"We need to investigate risk management for maize production and we need to undertake careful monitoring of food products coming into our country."

What, they don't already? Fools...

Posted by: Tim at May 13, 2008 9:54 PM

Oh, and, a quick trip through Google, the cornflake has been around commercially since 1906, a century's worth of weather, and not one death that I could find.

Dead lightening strike golfers, dead grizzly bear victims, dead carbon monoxide victims, coal mine collapse victims, rattlesnake victims, no one leaving by ambulance the breakfast table with cornflakes on their breath.

I will not fear my cornflake.

Posted by: penny at May 13, 2008 9:59 PM

People started suffering mass hallucinations, manic depression, gangrene, abortions, reduced fertility and painful, convulsive death"

She might be on to something.

Leave out the painful convulsive death part and I think that sums up the left nicely.

Posted by: Duncan at May 13, 2008 10:12 PM

And they wonder why we find it VERY hard to take them seriously?

Cornflakes?

It is posts like that, that almost demand emoticons.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at May 13, 2008 10:18 PM

The jokes just keep on comin', folks.

Posted by: MarineCorpsVet at May 13, 2008 10:21 PM

Props to the greenie for being honest

Posted by: James at May 13, 2008 10:31 PM

I still maintain there is a direct link between the vegan/tofu diet and cerebral necrosis.

Okay, I overuse the term but there has to be an explanation for why so many stupid people survive infancy and join the left wing.

Posted by: Mike T at May 13, 2008 10:32 PM

Sheesh! What next?

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes?

Posted by: set you free at May 13, 2008 10:37 PM

I found out long ago how they make cornflakes. Cornflakes and maraschino cherries. They'll never pass these lips.

Posted by: wingwalker at May 13, 2008 11:16 PM

Mass hallucinations, manic depression, gangrene, abortions, reduced fertility and painful, convulsive death? Well, always look on the bright side, I say, at least since the the middle ages we've reduced the incidence of gangrene and painful convulsive death. Two out of six ain't that bad, for some value of that bad. And who knows? Tomorrow is another day.

Posted by: Vitruvius at May 13, 2008 11:32 PM

What now will they place warrents out for the arrests of CORNELOUS THE ROOSTER(KELLOGS CORN FLAKES and TONY THE TIGER) these global warming jerks will say anything to get us to fall for this global warming poppycock bull kaka nonsense

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at May 14, 2008 12:27 AM

Last year or so, there was a batch of lethal petfood because of fungus in corn.

Anyways, now they are saying (and I admit that I thought this for a while) that global warming will cause the Sahara desert to become moist, and the desert has receded in the last decade, with grass where once was sand. Hot air carries more moisture, and would carry it further inland to deserts.

I advance the following hypothesis. They wonder where the carbon is going. Now, there is process called "thermal depolymerization"--you cook hydrocarbons, indeed all your garbage, at 500c in water under pressure. This breaks it all down, and reformulates it into pure water and oil. This is an industrial process already being used. Wouldn't this be happening naturally all the time under the sea? Water leaks down in cracks, gets heated deep down, along with all the organic sludge and CO2. Perhaps the end result will be that CO2 and water are constantly being transformed into Texas Tea.

Perhaps a crackpot idea, but maybe I'm right. Maybe heliogenic global warming will result in more crude oil and lower oil prices.

Posted by: hyoo at May 14, 2008 12:41 AM

HELLO

I'm astounded that no one has heard of this ergoty rye phenomenon. Were you all born after 1980? This was the original source for lysergic acid, the main ingredient in LSD. Other than some very strange thoughts, LSD causes very few physical problems. It's pretty old news. My grade 10 biology teacher gave some of his favourite students a pretty good education on the subject.

Posted by: dp at May 14, 2008 12:50 AM

"Grain-growing areas of Australia COULD become unviable, and Australia MAY have to import more maize and maize-based food products to meet demand....
While killer cornflakes MAY NOT precisely be around the corner, we do have POTENTIAL FOR increasing aflatoxin exposure," Ms Bricknell said."(capitals mine)

Sounds suspiciously like the terminology they used in the UN's introductory report on MMGW.

I always wondered how Gore could be more certain about an impending doom than the climatologists themselves.

Posted by: Canadian Observer at May 14, 2008 1:14 AM

I never did like Cornflakes {or liver} , and I'm glad I don't like them{it}. Because if I did like Cornflakes {or liver}, I'd eat them{it}...which would be bad, because I hate them and LIVER.

Posted by: Polly at May 14, 2008 1:15 AM

rogue cornflakes

WTF? I'm more worried about those diamond shreddies, myself. They look like they have MUCH sharper corners, why haven't they been banned yet?

Heh, "shreddies", named like what they'll do to your esophagus if you eat one I guess.

Posted by: PiperPaul at May 14, 2008 1:40 AM

It's ok PiperPaul. The corners get soft in a nice bowl of milk.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at May 14, 2008 7:25 AM

While on the subject of not eating corn flakes, I think what they do to the rice to turn it into crispies is unnatural and cruel. How would you like to be put in an oven? When put in a bowl of milk, you can hear the plaintive cry of the rice grains as they snap, they crackle, and they pop -- and who wouldn't?

The crispification of rice violates the whole fundamental notion of rice-rights upon which Canadian society is built.

And don't get me started on Quaker Oats. How would you like to be shot from a gun?! I can still remember the sound, as a boy growing up in Peterborough, Ontario, of the cruel cannons booming and the lingering smell of blasted oats.

Posted by: Richard Ball at May 14, 2008 7:31 AM

Really!! You know the print media is in decline when they have space to fill with paranoid fantasy like this.

My Gawd they must think the masses are as dim as mud.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at May 14, 2008 7:58 AM

richard, too funny.

Posted by: old white guy at May 14, 2008 8:00 AM

ohmigod !....another one of those cereal killers ?

Posted by: john begley at May 14, 2008 8:15 AM

Wow. People start suffering "abortions"!?! That sure is a crazy-ass infection.

Posted by: INP at May 14, 2008 8:23 AM

Heh, "shreddies", named like what they'll do to your esophagus if you eat one I guess.
PiperPaul

Grandpa's old and out of date,
with his wiskers trailing in his plate,
Grandma chews them in her sleep,
and thinks shes eating shredded wheat.

Shreddies are shredded wheat, par-cooked, and bite size.
Yummy.

Posted by: Oz at May 14, 2008 8:29 AM

Calling all rice and oats.

Please contact us for an apology and a tidy sum via the Government and taxpayers of Canada. It's all de rigueur.

Posted by: Cheatem, Stealem, and Stickem at May 14, 2008 9:12 AM

Golly, this global warming is making me scared.

Posted by: bob at May 14, 2008 9:23 AM

I saw a bumpersticker in the States once that I should have bought:

I Do Everything My Rice Krispies Tell Me To

Posted by: T. Robert Wolfram at May 14, 2008 9:25 AM

Is Raisin Bran ok?

Please tell me my two scoops are safe for consumption.........

Posted by: AtlanticJim at May 14, 2008 9:29 AM


We're on our own with this battle, because everyone knows; the left loves their fruit loops.

Posted by: richfisher at May 14, 2008 9:41 AM

so if Manitoba grown crops become toxic if it's a degree warmer, what does that say about south dakotah now.

Presumably India and Brazil are almost vacant.

Posted by: Dinosaur at May 14, 2008 9:48 AM

I want to know which retard universities gave these "scientists" their degrees so we can revoke their rights as degree-granting institutions.

Shouldn't there be some accountability for these places?

Posted by: Warwick at May 14, 2008 10:21 AM

Captain Crunch, baby!

So much sugar it will kill any fungus...Ummm Sugar BUZZZZZ!

dp is right about the ergo rye disease, it is tought to have a connection with middle age witch burnings too as people taught some victims of the poison were possessed by the devil.


I say let's burn some lefties at the stake...

Posted by: Grind a Grit at May 14, 2008 10:46 AM

Now , now Grind a Grit .....think of the emissions man . That and the awful smell burning hippie makes .....

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 14, 2008 11:13 AM

"... - that's just not fighting fair!"

I quit fighting fair after the first time I got kicked in the groin.

Nobody, but nobody, ever dissed the "Breakfast of Champions" after that. ;-)

Posted by: Yoop at May 14, 2008 11:20 AM

If folks are afraid to eat their corn and rye, they could always drink it...

Mmmmm.... Bourbon!

Posted by: Frozen Tex at May 14, 2008 11:57 AM

we only have to convert the entire corn and rye crop to biofuel to avert this disaster.

cant the gubmint stop these horrors being visited upon us.

first a white horse - bill clinton
then a red horse - george bush
then a black horse- al gore
then a pale horse - cant be obama , must be the old guy mccain, though hillary has the teeth.

Posted by: cal2 at May 14, 2008 12:49 PM

The latest issue of the "New Scientist" is unintentionally rather funny about global warming. I might say that "New Scientist" is quite a well produced British magazine intended for a very broad range of somewhat scientific readers, and it has been hard core Leftoid about global warming. But the latest issue is just confused, and says so "global warming is happening ... not happening ... models can't predict El Nino ... need computers 1000 times more powerful ... our mathematicians must tell us what is going on inside our computers [this probably indicates that the author has heard of chaos theory]" etc. - all in an editorial and one extended article.

One puts up with the "New Scientist"; it is a magazine to inform a little, and to entertain, and for its ads. The similar fanatical attitude shown by "Nature", which is supposed to be a serious journal, is an absolute disgrace.

Posted by: John Lewis at May 14, 2008 1:22 PM

Oddly a scientific article on the ergot fungus doesn't mention heat as a factor which favors it.

"Ergot develops more abundantly during wet seasons. Wet weather and wet soils favor germination of the ergot bodies, and cool, wet weather during flowering favors development of the "honey-dew" stage. Dry weather during flowering is detrimental to spore production and germination. ...

http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci/crops/pp551w.htm

Posted by: ww at May 14, 2008 1:49 PM

Corny Y2Kyoto - where are we headed ??

In the begining, the Earth was thought to be heating up because of a man made CO2 Greenhouse.

Then, the UN's Kyoto requires Western Civilization to transfer wealth to failed Socialistic regimes.

Then all US Seantors (unanimous)and Bill & Al say no go without China.

Then, China says kiss my a**.

Then, a Canadian breaks NASA's hockey stick.

Then, CO2 is shown to be a very, very, very minor GH gas.

Then, CO2 is shown to be a very essential gas - more is better (pumped into food producing greenhouses).

Then, Al Gore makes a bundle.

Then, we realize lowering CO2 atmospheric conc too far will cause all plants to stop growing - we all die.

Then, same Canadian proves climate data intentionaly skewed to the warm side.

Then, biofuels go from saviour to monster in a matter of months.

Then, we realize ice age bad, warm periods good.

Then, Europe, instigator of Kyoto in the first place, starts having second thoughts.

Then, London's "green" mayor is chucked out in a landslide Kyoto backlash.

Then, the Weather Channel founder is threatening Al Gore with a massive fraud lawsuit over carbon credit scam.

Then, Hansen's boys admit the Earth has been cooling since 1998.

Then, we realize, CO2 conc was four times higher when the dinosaurs had lush ferns to eat. Life was good.

Then, McCain says if China comes on board, cap and trade.

China will say kiss my a**.

Maccain says, a new Kyoto with nuclear power.

Susuki will say kiss my a**.

World keeps cooling, everybody forgets global warming fears - goes ballistic over expensive enrgy everything.

Obama will say: a 'gallon in every tank' and a 'kilowatt in every meter'.
.........

Now I know what they meant by; 'Stop the world, I want to get off'

The flakiest in Hollywood could not have written a better comedy than Maurice Strong's Kyoto. Actually, Tinsletown did help write it - AIT, Gore Oscar. And to think we all paid collectively about a $Trillion at the Kyoto box office ! A pathetic comedy.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at May 14, 2008 2:10 PM

Umm, does anyone care to hear the viewpoint of a farmer? Why should anyone ask a food producer about an issue in food production? Mycotoxins are very nasty elements to be dealt with. They appear occassionaly in crops when conditions permit. Believe it or not, Canadian farmers are rather conscientious when it comes to producing their foodstuffs to sell. The buyer will discount or discard your product if it is overtly contaminated with toxins. Some of these nasty elements in the wheat will pass through the milling process and end up in your loaf of Wonder bread. But I repeat; most farmers are not ignorant boobs and use the tools available to reduce the likelihood of these toxin outbreaks. More often than not the outbreak is only regional in nature

Posted by: Farmerboy at May 14, 2008 3:24 PM

To WL McKenzie Redux; yes the masses are as dumb as mud. Look were the bulk of them receive their education. Facts are out, paranoid fantasy is in.

Posted by: Farmerboy at May 14, 2008 4:03 PM

Lucky for us the world isn't warming, I guess I won't worry too much about the corn flakes; but, Quaker Oats is another matter. I didn't know you can make cereal out of Quakers, the next time mine won't shut up I've got some ideas for what I can do with him.

"In short, and I am sorry to say it, anti-greens (Reds, as we call them) appear to be more willing to comment, more structured, more able to quote peer reviewed research, more apparently rational and apparently wider read and better informed."

Now this comment brightened my day. Like I said before, these left-tards are like American Idol contestants who cannot sing. The look on their faces when reality smacks them is priceless. Bush rocks, McCain's going to win, and your an idiot for renting a movie and basing your whole political ideology on it. At least pick a good movie to base your beliefs on, how about South Park Bigger Badder & Uncut. At least that movie had some good ideas, the CF bombing the Baldwins would be a good start.

Posted by: Play'nWitYoMomma at May 14, 2008 6:35 PM

There was a case in medieval France where this toxin got into the rye flour, the village went nuts claiming all the woman were witches and they killed every woman in the village if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Colin at May 14, 2008 7:51 PM

Interesting info Re: Francis Zwiers (see errors)
Why does the MSM quote this person?


Statistical Analysis in Climate Research, by Hans Von Storch and Francis W. Zwiers

Book review / Computers & Geosciences 27 (2001) 371±373

Link:
http://www.manfredmudelsee.com/publ/pdf/bookrev1.pdf

Noted errors by Zwiers

It would be unfair to conclude without giving the misprinted/erroneous formulas that I discovered. They should be corrected in the next edition which the book surely will enjoy. These formulas include those for variance of the discrete uniform distribution (p. 23), the variance of the lognormal distribution (p. 36), the multinormal density (p. 41), the binormal density (p. 43), the density of Gumbel's distribution (p. 49), the relation between the fourth central moment and kurtosis (p. 86), the con®dence interval for the
intercept of a regression line (p. 153), Eq. (11.14) (p. 221/222), Eq. (11.62) (p. 234), the approximate bias of the estimated autocorrelation function (p. 252), and the decorrelation time for an AR2 process
(p. 373/374).

References
Diks, C., Mudelsee, M., 2000. Redundancies in the Earth's climatological time series. Physics Letters A 275 (5±6),407±414.

Hasselmann, K., 1976. Stochastic climate models: Part I. Theory. Tellus 28 (6), 473±485.
372 Book review / Computers & Geosciences 27 (2001) 371±373

Posted by: Phillip G. Shaw at May 15, 2008 12:00 PM

Cal2:

"first a white horse - bill clinton
then a red horse - george bush
then a black horse- al gore
then a pale horse - cant be obama , must be the old guy mccain, though hillary has the teeth."

I think Hillary would be the "Old Grey Mare!"

Posted by: Gypsy at May 15, 2008 2:38 PM

Rememeber the tainted spinach last year and not a word from PETA,CSPI,PCRM and the other bunch from the food police freaks

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at May 16, 2008 11:26 AM

I was swamped by climate skeptics who did a good job

Aww, I dunno. Looks like the same 20 or 30 head bobbers every time you blog on this. And they repeat the same one liner arguments over and over. But when challenged, they fold like cheap tents. So I don't know what great victory you are boasting about. The last number of blogs your side went down in flames.

I guess you just deny that like you deny everything else that doesn't fit your distorted views.


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