Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to SDA Late Nite Radio. Tonight, for your delectation, here is the great Earl Hines performing The Stanley Steamer:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ5E6osNP40

Earl "Fatha" Hines: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Hines

This just in-

Mark Steyn will guest on The Steve Madeley Show on CFRA (cfra.com) this morning from 8:00-9:00 a.m. Eastern.

PEI now has pop in cans. Undercover operatives are standing down. Of course, being PEI, the government has found a way to tax every can and plastic bottle to the max, so I along with others will continue to bring my pop in from Ontario at every possible opportunity.

The sound of screwed, whoops settled idiocy

Wikipedia's zealots
The thought police at the supposedly independent site are fervently enforcing the climate orthodoxy

Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post
Published: Saturday, April 12, 2008

As I'm writing this column for the Financial Post, I am simultaneously editing a page on Wikipedia. I am confident that just about everything I write for my column will be available for you to read. I am equally confident that you will be able to read just about nothing that I write for the page on Wikipedia

http://www.nationalpost.com/related/links/story.html?id=440268

And this from Wiki

The opinionator
At Wikipedia, one man engineers the debate on global warming, and shapes it to his views

Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post
Published: Saturday, May 03, 2008

Peiser is Benny Peiser, a distinguished U.K. scientist who had convincingly refuted a study by Naomi Oreskes that claimed to have found no scientific papers at odds with the conventional wisdom on climate change. The Oreskes study -- cited by Al Gore in his film, An Inconvenient Truth-- is an article of faith to many global warming doomsayers and guarded from criticism by Connolley et al. Peiser and other critics of Oreskes's study, meanwhile, get demeaned

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=490337&p=2

SDA readers might enjoy our posting of James Burke's 1980s The Day the Universe Changed series on history and science, of which the first episode was posted last evening:

http://www.yankeefarm.net/archives/8366-The-Day-The-Universe-Changed-Episode-1.html

Loudmouth Hargrove puts his foot in it again

This is why we hate unions

Robert Fulford, National Post
Published: Saturday, May 03, 2008

When you hear the phrase "Canadian values," you know something ugly and mendacious is beginning -- a speech by Paul Martin, for instance.

"Supply and demand is perhaps one of the most fundamental concepts of economics and it is the backbone of a market economy." (investopedia)
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"I should be raising my prices but I don't want to lose any more customers
Viola Nelson
Rice seller"

"Liberians drop rice for spaghetti"

"Tarr Sayeeh has now learnt how to eat spaghetti"

"But as surging rice prices threaten to halt progress in fragile countries like Liberia, local people are changing life-long habits and switching to cheaper staple foods such as spaghetti."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7360649.stm

Good stuff. "Connections" was another great Burke series.

Mao Stlong say, Bob Lae, my nephew, not flightening; Bob Riberal reader in Canada.
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"Montreal Gazette | Double-edged sword
China is in a frightening mood. The sight of thousands of Chinese people waving xenophobic fists suggests that a country on its way to becoming a superpower might turn out to be a more dangerous force than optimists had hoped."

"BBC | China virus toll continues rise
The toll from an intestinal virus that has affected thousands of children in central China is continuing to rise, as officials work to rein in the outbreak."

Content Warning: Children with guns - not, repeat not, for leftist eyes:

http://tinyurl.com/3kwqla

"Now I know how Clarence Thomas and Colin Powell must feel when they hear Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson speaking "for Blacks"."
Or, Librano$ Jeancula & PMJr speaking about "da Canadian values".
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"Jews for free speech

I didn't know it until I read paragraph 4 this legal brief, but apparently I, Ezra Levant, have been relying on section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act -- the thought crimes provision -- for my "psychological security".

That's what the Canadian Jewish Congress, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre and, to Frank Dimant's shame, the B'nai Brith say. In paragraph 4 of their joint brief, they claim they're "representatives of the Canadian Jewish community" and that Canadian Jews "rely heavily on anti hate-speech legislation, such as section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act, for their physical and psychological security."

I admit I've been caught flat-footed by this. I didn't know that I was supposed to be a caricature of a thin-skinned Jew, a neurotic Woody Allen stereotype, a perpetual victim."
http://ezralevant.com/2008/05/hows-your-psychological-securi.html

Woody say:
"I can't listen to that much Wagner. I start getting the urge to conquer Poland."

A typical CTV Canada AM moment:

This morning, Seamus O'Reagan speaking with some enviromentalist in a Newfoundland harbour watching icebergs:

Environmentalist: "Yes, there's 2 huge icebergs here and I counted 4 on my way here from home"

Seamus: "What's the global warming significance of this?"

E: "Well you now, we use to see less of them in the past 10 years or so but now this is what is considered a normal rate based on past data...The GW experts are divided on this though, some say we should less, some say we should see more icebergs. One thing for sure though; it will happen" (One will presume he meant global warming)

Seamus: "Thank you" (Instead of questioning further)

cue commercial and me running to the bathroom to barf

Lorne Gunter's column in the National Post is worth a read. (Unless you're an anti-Jew/Israel [...]knee-jerk reactor.)
[...]
"On the eve of Israel's 60th anniversary, those of us who cherish our own fundamental freedoms had better hope the Jewish state makes it through its second 60 years; or else our own right to think, say or worship as we please (unless, of course, we come under the scrutiny of a so-called human rights commission) is in jeopardy."
[...]
If we give up on Israel, they will simply take that as a sign they might be able to pressure us next to give up on Quebec, Mississauga, Michigan, Birmingham and the Paris suburbs.

This week, Riyad Na'san Al-Agha, Syria's culture minister and a man long touted in the West as an intellectual moderate, told Al Hiwar TV, an Arab-language channel based in London, that he longs for the destruction of Israel (so much for his moderation) and that he is "optimistic that within 10 years, Israel will come to its end."

What then? Arabs can concentrate on driving the infidels from their neighbourhood and, who knows, perhaps even take the fight to the infidels' homelands.

Remember, this is from a government official, not from a terrorist."
[...]

Read the whole article.

Uprooting the Librano$; culling the likes of Gagliano; kneecapping the socialists, etc.
More, and faster. On with the "war". There is room in the PET Cemetery.
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"Feds draft policies without knowledge of officers of Parliament: Marleau
Liberals want to know: 'Why is the government at war with Canada's democratic institutions?'"
(the hill)

Imagine the outcry if the perpetrator wasn't a Canadian and the victims were:

Dwayne Robert Palmer, 28, of Brampton, was charged yesterday with two counts of second-degree murder. Palmer is being held in custody in hospital, where he's in stable condition, after an apparent suicide attempt. Palmer was on bail after being arrested last Dec. 31 for possessing a knife and some marijuana, court documents show.

Murdered because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time were two immigrants:
Rahimullah and Nazifa Shahghasy, Brampton, Ontario.
May they rest in peace.

Obituary: Philipp von Boeselager

When the German cavalry officer Philipp von Boeselager received a brief message from his brother in July 1944, he believed that his life would soon be over. “Everyone back in the old holes” read the message, a code signalling that the plot to murder Hitler, in which both brothers had been involved, had failed...

Spengler, The heart has its own unreason

In his September 2006 address in Regensburg, Pope Benedict XVI challenged elements of manifest irrationality in Muslim theology, for example, the view of some Islamic theologians that "God is not bound even by his own word, and that nothing would oblige him to reveal the truth to us. Were it God's will, we would even have to practice - idolatry." Outrage erupted against the pope throughout the Islamic world...

Now, in one of the weirder acts of recent diplomacy, a delegation of robed and turbaned Iranian mullahs has come to Rome to declare with due solemnity that they share the pope's view that reason and faith are compatible. The meeting was the sixth in a long-scheduled series of discussion between Iranian clergy and the Holy See, to be sure, but unlike any of the previous encounters.

AP Mocks Reconstruction Plans in Iraq ....

And of course CTV runs with it!

Excerpt -

"BAGHDAD -- Forget the rocket attacks, concrete blast walls and lack of a sewer system. Now try to imagine luxury hotels, a shopping center and even condos in the heart of Baghdad."

Are there any stats out there telling us how many people on bail have committed serious crimes resulting in death. Is it possible to get the names of the judges who let these criminals out on bail. Has the same judge been responsible for many of them. Heaven forbid, criminals are kept in jail till trial.

You know things are tough in Moonbat Land when the Star is advocating a massive increase in corporate political donations to combat the Cons. Get this line of reasoning:

"The Liberals have been hurt by the federal ban on corporate and union donations to political parties. That has forced the Liberals to turn to individuals for donations, and they have always fared worse on that front than the other parties on their left and right (which can push more "hot buttons" in fundraising appeals). In the first quarter, more than 44,000 individuals contributed to the Conservatives, 13,000 to the NDP, and barely 10,000 to the Liberals.

Which is why, when then prime minister Jean Chrétien introduced the ban on corporate and union donations, the president of his own party called the move "dumb as a bag of hammers."

The person behind that phrase reveals themselves to be downright dumb, but also in complete contempt of those who don't donate to the Librano$. Amazing stuff to see in a large circulation daily. That kind of anger (and maybe even...hatred?) is usually reserved for brainwashed political partisans.

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...this offer is sponsored by Save the Global Warming proponents - a dying breed.

Sounds like money laundering and transfer of illicit funds if you ask me.
In a feeble defense of Brenda Martin's innocence Charles Adler told his listeners that "all she got was some 'severance' money' ( severance ????) which was not only misleading but an outright prevarication and a stranger to the facts of the case.

According to the 110-page verdict, the judge found Ms. Martin guilty of depositing and transferring illicit funds.
Between March and August of 2001, she received nearly $60,000 in Canadian funds in her Mexican bank account, and about $3,000 of it was transferred from the Latvian bank account of one of Mr. Waage's shell companies.
Most of the money – $38,700 – was transferred by Ms. Martin from another account in her name.

Not bad for someone working for minimum wage.

…According to the 110-page verdict, the judge found Ms. Martin guilty of depositing and transferring illicit funds. Between March and August of 2001, she received nearly $60,000 in Canadian funds in her Mexican bank account, and about $3,000 of it was transferred from the Latvian bank account of one of Mr. Waage’s shell companies. Most of the money – $38,700 – was transferred by Ms. Martin from another account in her name.

Ms. Martin also received a $15,000 transfer from Keith Nordick, a Saskatchewan man living in Puerto Vallarta who was Mr. Waage’s right-hand man in the scheme.Mr. Nordick pleaded guilty in a California court to fraud and money laundering in 2005.

Ms. Martin also transferred $16,000 from her bank account to Mr. Waage’s sister, Lynn Johnston. Ms. Johnston is wanted on fraud charges, but has never been apprehended…

Then there is the so called 26 thousand dollar severance pay for someone who was fired after 9 months employment - you can be sure the judge , just like any other sane person, didn't buy their explanation it was so called "severance" pay.

Jonathan Kays morning cup of coffee..Mmmmm...Tastes like Freedom!

http://tinyurl.com/3kuarm

Wells said "That’s certainly enough to chew on for now, though." [http://tinyurl.com/6x6gpr]

Buzzetti a dit [rough paraphrased translation]: "No one chewed on this, and so now they are going to choke on it."

Who ordered the ads? Who cooked up the plan? Is this the smoking frying pan? Tastes like it.

For a local expense to be a local expense, it can't be forced upon them by the national campaign. Finding local campaigns to pay for your national ads after the fact in order to avoid election spending limits does not make them legal.

Someone's going to get burnt on this.

"Monday, May 05, 2008
America Alone
Madely in the Morning - 8:10am --- Steve Madely is joined for the hour by Mark Steyn, author of America Alone: The End of the World As We Know It (a book soon to be banned in Canada)."

http://www.cfra.com/chum_audio/Mark_Steyn_May05.mp3

Gee and these rednecks accuse Ontarians of always voting Liberal

"Alberta residents decry plan for carbon storage
Ex-premier Don Getty aims to build 250 salt caverns

Duncan Thorne, Canwest News Service
Published: Wednesday, April 30, 2008

EDMONTON -- The way former Alberta premier Don Getty sees it, his company's plan for 250 greenhouse-gas-storing salt caverns will be huge."

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=480497

Coming to the defense of a monster father:

Fritzl's lawyer, meanwhile, indicated he is preparing an insanity defence....

....I believe that the trigger was a mental disorder, because I can't imagine that someone has sex with his own daughter without having a mental disorder," Mayer said.....

....lawyer Rudolf Mayer said he believes Fritzl has a serious mental disorder and that anyone with that kind of psychological illness "didn't choose" to do what police allege he did.....

http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/421489

Ever notice how there's 10 times as much sympathy for probable terrorist and non-torture victim Omar Khadr in Afghanistan than there was for wrongly convicted and tortured Bill Sampson in Saudi Arabia?

BBC | China virus toll continues rise
The toll from an intestinal virus that has affected thousands of children in central China is continuing to rise, as officials work to rein in the outbreak."

Posted by: maz2 at May 5, 2008 9:06 AM

It's called hand foot and mouth disease not to be confused with foot and mouth which only affects hooved cattle.

My wife and i are in China and as you say it has affected thousands, in fact over a hundred have died, however this is not just central China HK is affected too. At least this time it has been reported to the WHO so lets see how they spin it.

Ted: "For a local expense to be a local expense, it can't be forced upon them by the national campaign. Finding local campaigns to pay for your national ads after the fact in order to avoid election spending limits does not make them legal."

Ted, that's your opinion. IMO it doesn't make it illegal, not until a court says so. Elections Canada hasn't even laid charges yet, so Tories get presumption of innocence, and certainly have reasonable doubt to present, should a trial happen. I guess we will see. Keep flogging that dead (Ok, dying) horse, Ted.

The din of this will likely be soon worn out by arrests (yes, actual charges) of high-ranking Liberals, and of course, Mr Dion's upcoming contravention, unless he can pay off his leadership run debt very soon.

Ted, Grits should go into election ASAP in case this stuff gets real nasty for them; or maybe they'll hold out for a real leader.

I know Ted, pure conjecture, kind of like yours; I think I'm having way more fun over here, though.

Is that your only defence of Conservative corruption, Shamrock? 'yeah, but, um, well, Liberals are bad too, so there!!'

'Cause that reeeaaaally works well with the Canadian voter.

WHO spins:It's only a threat to kids.
Mao Stlong say, Red Orympics also safe flom SALS.
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"WHO: deadly child virus in China not a threat to Olympics"
http://tinyurl.com/6xohyw (asspress)

....When Khan, now a 46-year-old accomplished Toronto author, was asked last year to write a book for Citizenship and Immigration Canada to help immigrant children prepare for a new life here, these memories re-emerged and became part of the 56-page novel, Coming to Canada.....

...The siblings experience the discomfort of moving into a small apartment, intimidation by a sea of unfamiliar faces in school, the struggle to speak a new language, the embarrassment of not knowing simple things such as how to use a water fountain and being treated differently.

"We want immigrant kids to know what to expect, where to turn to for help. We want them to know that it could be challenging and people may not always be fair with you," says Khan....

....will be distributed to Ontario public libraries in June and handed to newcomer elementary pupils in the fall.....

....The printing of 10,000 copies was aided by a $48,000 funding by Citizenship and Immigration Canada.....

http://www.thestar.com/living/article/421343

Kate McMillan and Small Dead Animals are mentioned in a piece by David Warren titled
"Reclaming Canada" at Proudtobecanadian.ca

here is one excerpt,

"...At a time when “human rights” commissars such as Barbara Hall can make us deeply ashamed of our country, it is important to remember there are Canadians like Levant, Steyn, McMillan, and many others to make us proud."

And I agree completely!

The Star jumped the shark a long, long time ago. I suspect Conservative visitors to the Star get their own drinking fountain. One Yonge St. is the original suppository of Liberal Party Hate.

But Louise Arbour probably regards Jean Ziegler as her kind of man...

Hillel Neuer, Ziegler's Follies

The strange story of one UN official`s dubious affair with radicalism.

Another twist to our dubious affair with gasoline. . .

Mexican crude oil supplies to U.S. to be cut back by 184,000 bpd

** Pemex PMI Comercio Internacional, has some bad news for U.S. oil consumers. Mexico will be sending America less oil this year - to the tune of 184,000 barrels per day. The cuts will continue for at least the next two years because production of crude in Mexico has been falling. **

http://tinyurl.com/5uk4ky
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= TG

Does anyone here know if Al Gore is lurking in the vicinity of Manitoba/Saskatchewan? I went to open my cabin on Lake Winnipeg this past weekend (two weeks later than I usually open it) and I was greeted by a Saturday night when the temperature dropped to -8 Celsius and on Sunday afternoon by flurries of snow. Lots of stray patches of snow lying around and the lake is still well frozen except for a bit around the shoreline. The returned eagles, pelicans, ospreys etc. are looking pretty dazed. Can we maybe bring in some coal from Saskatchewan to burn so we can get spring started before July comes?

surprisingly short time ago in the great scheme of plate tectonics.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080505/mildred_loving_080505/20080505?hub=TopStories

No Ted, that's what Liberals like you do, try to equate years of scandal, corruption waste and incompetent Grit "rule" with the present government - where any attempt to make them accountable is met with spin (like you now) and smear (coming soon to an election near you).

How hypocritical, pathetic and slimy of you to make that argument. Enjoy your long wilderness in opposition; I know I will.

Keep up the good work with your weanie leader, so you suffer the same fate as the Liberal party of GB, with NDP as official opposition.

Once you go to far down certain paths it takes drastic action to undo the harm...
Crisis in Turkey!

West coast shnook fishery closed in the States, first time in 148 years. Stocks close to wiped out. Coho or spring next?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/02/BABT10F7PE.DTL&tsp=1

Canadian 'leaders' send polite letters to natives to be modest in their resource take.

Guess since we've run out of cod, we might as well get on the salmon stocks.

Moral of the story: government can't run a lemonade stand.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/02/BABT10F7PE.DTL&tsp=1

and for all those who love a good conspiracy (I'm one of them :-)), here is a cool site:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/maprerout.htm

If only there was one in this Banana Republic of Canuckistan - boy. Could you imagine where Muldoon dropped that $300k? Or how about our very own Mo Strong-Arm - and assorted backroom blowboys.

Pearson, the last of the Trudopeans, has reserved a spot for himself in the PET Cemetery.
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"'Decent' label puts MP on spot
London MP Glen Pearson the "last decent man in Ottawa.""
(lfreepress)
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"We are in the presence of royalty," Pearson said."
"The son of Pierre Trudeau ..."
(lfreepress)

Update: Mao Stlong say, WHO goody news for Red Orympics. WHO "mostly" kills "young children".
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"China: Doctors say that hand, foot and mouth ailment is spreading"
"WHO's China representative, Hans Troedsson, said the disease was not a threat to the Beijing Olympics because the disease mostly sickens young children."
http://tinyurl.com/6xohyw (asspress)

Caroline Glick, Our World: Anti-Zionism at 60

Israel's 60th Independence Day is an excuse for the international media to weigh in on the state of the Jewish state. Given the anti-Israel bias of most of the international media, not surprisingly, most of the reports reveal less about Israel's status at 60 than they reveal about how anti-Zionists perceive Israel at 60.

Two critiques - both cover stories of major magazines - stand out in this regard. In Canada, Maclean's magazine's May 5 cover pictures three Israeli soldiers struggling to raise the national flag. The headline reads, "Why Israel Can't Survive."

Abe Greenwald, Is Europe Heading Right?

Silvio Berlusconi is planning to appoint Roberto Calderoli, a far-Right critic of Islam, to his cabinet. Two years ago, during the first Danish cartoon firestorm, Calderoli went on television wearing a T-shirt bearing one of the offending images. A brave and admirable defense of freedom of expression in and of itself. But Calderoli didn’t stop at T-shirt activism. He threatened, cringe-inducingly, to walk a pig over the site of a proposed mosque in Padua. Then he made a headfirst dive into quasi-Fascism...

"Defending the policy change, Mr. Harper cited academic Alasdair Roberts, an expert on freedom of information who first made the CAIRS database available to the public online by requesting the electronic records through his own Access to Information Act request.

“The database in question was created by the previous Liberal government. It was called ‘the product of a political system in which centralized control is an obsession,’ and that’s why the government got rid of it,” Mr. Harper said, citing a 2003 opinion piece by Mr. Roberts."

"Southern Hemisphere Sea Ice Reaches “Unprecedented” Levels
By Steve McIntyre

Four of the past 5 months are “all-time” records for Southern Hemisphere sea ice anomalies, “unprecedented” since the data set began in 1979 as shown below:"
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=3066

Mao Stlong say, China uber alles on Evelest. Canada, land of cowards, appeasers.
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"'O Canada'—Censored

OTTAWA—When is it okay to ban someone from playing "O Canada" in our nation's capital? When the clothing they wear might upset Chinese communists.

That's exactly what happened at the Canadian Tulip Festival in Ottawa on Friday evening.

Having invited the Tian Guo Marching Band to perform "O Canada," and "The Maple Leaf Forever," the band was barred from the stage mere minutes before the opening ceremony was to begin.

Band members were told that if they wanted to perform, they had to remove their hats, scarves and jackets that display the words "Falun Dafa."

However, soon after that the band was informed that their performance was cancelled altogether and the police were called.

The problem? The Chinese embassy had a tent at the festival, and festival organizers were concerned that the presence of the band, which is composed of Falun Gong practitioners, would "upset" embassy officials."
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/8-5-5/70247.html
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"ExplorersWeb Week in Review"
[...]
"The Everest Olympic torch soap opera continues to surprise with increasingly surreal episodes. Not the least funny is the worst story ExWeb has researched yet; about China's organ transplant business.

The south side of Everest now seems to be closed for climbing, until the torch team summits. There are approx. 120 tents in C1 and about 80 tents in C2, with check-points along the ascent. Word from Rimpoche monastery was that more army troops (about 30 men) were approaching BC last week. This in addition to the police already there, including Chinese army personnel. A banner seals off the Lhotse wall and a small police post guards camp 2, with a soldier doing the rounds each day with a sniper rifle. AC told NZ media they even had to pay thousands of dollars to feed the soldiers on the mountain. "It is insane. It is extortion to pay for your own persecutors," leader Guy Cutter told Stuff (NZ). Radio restrictions were enforced between BC and high camps. “The Army alleges security reasons we can’t really understand; what we do know for sure is that our Sherpas are far from safe, risking their lives without contact with BC,” said Gnaro.

On the north side, journalists are cold, altitude sick, miserable, and left to interview only Chinese-conditioned Tibetans with no word about the torch. The Chinese should however be done this upcoming week, if forecasts are right."
http://www.k2climb.net/news.php?id=17251

Mark Steyn is going to be on TVO's The Agenda with Steve Paikin on Tuesday at 8 pm. He's asked to go face-to-face with the sock puppet three.

I'll be capping it.

Steyn on CKNW -> go to may 5 -> 12 (noon) ... forward to about 37 min.

http://www.cknw.com/StationShared/AudioVault.aspx

The NP comes through again: "A voice of moderation

Islam's message of peace overshadowed by politics, author Tarek Fatah says"
...."He said Arab domination has overshadowed the message of peace and brought a strain of fanaticism that will be the ruin of everyone. And because so much Saudi money is used to finance Islamic organizations, including mosques, in the West, the situation is dire, he argues."
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=492293&p=1

Welcome to China, reason I put that on here is that your comments page mentioning your visit to Beijing will not come up here. Don't know if other people are having the same problem outside China

Yes Pissedoff,

after hitting submit. . . a blank page and using *Firefox* the tab reads http:/...s.cgi

a first for SDA. = TG

"Defending the policy change, Mr. Harper cited academic Alasdair Roberts, an expert on freedom of information who first made the CAIRS database available to the public online by requesting the electronic records through his own Access to Information Act request.

“The database in question was created by the previous Liberal government. It was called ‘the product of a political system in which centralized control is an obsession,’ and that’s why the government got rid of it,” Mr. Harper said, citing a 2003 opinion piece by Mr. Roberts."

Posted by: summom bonum at May 5, 2008 5:34 PM

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Deceivin' Stephen at it again and the public falling for it. Will The Media ever stand up to this guy and do their job? Not likely.

First, it was created by Mulroney in 1989. I'm sure that can't possibly have been a deliberate attempt to make another petty attack on the Liberals, but was certainly - yes, certainly - just an honest to goodness mistake.

Second, it has lied - outright lied - about Mr. Roberts has said. Roberts fired back that the problem he identified with CAIRS was that it was not open enough and should be expanded and made public because it was a useful tool in keeping government accountable: "They really don't care what I think about CAIRS or any other aspect of ATI. If they did they would have taken my advice about CAIRS a few years ago when I said they ought to switch on the capacity to make the entire thing publicly accessible." [Source: http://tinyurl.com/5llsy4]

This is like Van Loan lying about Democracy Watch, claiming that they supported their illegal In-and-Out scam. In fact, the truth is the exact opposite and Democracy Watch has called on the Conservatives to apologize for lying: http://tinyurl.com/69ehnb.

Recognize a pattern anyone?

No wonder Deceivin' Stephen "Mr. Accountability" Harper wants to shut CAIRS down. No point in giving the public a tool to find out what the government is doing with our own money, now is there?