"At a time when “human rights” commissars such as Barbara Hall can make us deeply ashamed of our country, it is important to remember there are Canadians like Levant, Steyn, McMillan, and many others to make us proud."

- David Warren

I didn't want people to miss that sentence.

CTV needs to put the Mark Steyn interview on every hour on the hour till it drives home to the taxpayer the racket of Lucy W.

Great timing Kate! I had made a comment yesterday about Steyn, not sure why it got caught in the filter. I had just finished re-watching Duffy's clip with Steyn.
I watched Duffy yesterday and I say he deserves TWO THUMBS UP! Duffy does get it. He asked Steyn about RW; RW is the plaintiff on every case filed under section 13 since 2003. RW is awarded tax free payments, in the 5 figure sums for the pain and stress he suffered.
I agree with cal2, Steyn needs to be on TV everyday,to expose this racket.

Question: Kate, does Lucy's real name send of signals to your filter? Twice my posts have not gone through, just very curious. As soon as I changed it to RW, everything was fine. The only other word that I removed is four letters, starts with H and ends in E, which applies to this crime. Weird.

The notion that “freedom of speech is an American concept” -- I am quoting Dean Steacy, principal “mediator” (i.e. thought-crime investigator) for the Canadian Human Rights Commission -- is proving sadly true in the limited sense that most of the money donated to the various legal defence funds has come, via Internet, from citizens of the USA, outraged upon learning what has happened up here, and acting proactively before the same kind of moral and intellectual garbage spreads across the border. It is a further shame that the decisions of Canada’s human rights commissars have received more publicity in the States than up here.

It may be that it's just that there are about ten times as many of us, but thank you, Mr. Warren. It takes a big man with a lot of class to write that. And Canadians like Kate and Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant have displayed far more support for freedom of speech than a whole lot of university presidents, administrators, and faculty here in the USA.

Where's the sanity when a jerk like RW can make a living doing the offended two step right here in Canada with help of the HRC's, the Commie inspired policing commissions of the Trudeau Charter.

This is turning into a large battle, slowly escalating.

What I am concerned is that all of this will lead to only minor reform.

What I would love to see, in my dreams, is a full rebuke from the SCoC where they say that die to the procedural abuses that the all tribunal rulings are suspect and order amounts returned.

What I am amazed at is that even in Ontario they spend an additional 17 million dollars on the OHRC and we are entering "have not" status.

Apparently we arent in as bad a state as they indicate.

Yes Mary, it does. I've added his name to the spam filter to preclude provocateurs who may attempt to make comments designed to enhance his case against me.

"The federally funded CRRF describes its mission as being dedicated to bringing about "a more harmonious Canada that acknowledges its racist past, recognizes the pervasiveness of racism today, and is committed to creating a future in which all Canadians are treated equitably and fairly."

We'll I'm sure glad that my tax dollars are being well spent.

In my best Ricky Ricardo:

"LUCY!!!... You got some splainin to do."

CHRC gives the "I love Lucy Show" a whole new meaning. But then Fidels Cuba doesn't like a whole lot of free speech either.

Maybe we should just consult Pierre Trudeau on this, while we are channelling Mackenzie King!

Cue WLMR; and is there anyone else from BERLIN, Ontario who would like to chime in?

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

The Lucy cult are getting the notoriety they deserve....and it will only escalate because there just ain't enough kangaroo courts and time to threaten the millions of voices who are disgusted by self serving zealotry.

Maybe I was lucky and hit that CTV streaming video at a quiet time. It downloaded without a pause.

Steyn was his usual erudite self and I was quite surprised at Mike Duffy's fair and objective (and really, very supportive) treatment of Mark Steyn.

Steyn's money line was that the so-called human rights commissions "are an affront to 800 years of Canada's legal heritage." No one can pithily summarize as well as does Steyn.

I for one am absolutely opposed to any so-called "hate speech" laws. They are inevitably censorship of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press. As someone said, "One right we don't have in a democracy is the right not to be offended." If these freedoms don't give the right to say or write just about anything short of treason, they don't mean anything.

As the great American Supreme Court jurist Louis Brandeis wrote in a Supreme Court opinion on a free speech case, "Sunlight is the best disinfectant" against so-called hate speech, not censorship. You defeat an idea with which you disagree with a better idea, not forbidding the expression of the idea.

Thanks for for the answer Kate. So Ontario, spends 17 million, each province has their own HRC, one HRC for Canada. I am afraid to ask but: What is the total amount of taxpayer's money that goes the HRC's across this country? We need a total of what is being spent on these "kangaroo courts". Surely, these governments could find better use for this money.

Mary,

Let me clarify. It isnt a total of 17 million, the 17 million is a an extra this year on top of their existing budget.

They also want to expand their business so they can justify their increased budget.

But with Warren K able to report on the health Dalton's colon there will be no cutting back on the comission unless there was a major scandal.

Holly crap.......Thanks Stephen.

This is about the right time for some enterprising blogger to initiate a repository for CHRC thug jokes (other than reading exactly what they say).

Here's a rephrased ditty (you can look up wardriving if you don't know what it is)

John Henry's captain came to him
With fifty dollars in his hand,
He laid his hand on his shoulder and said:
"This belongs to a steel driving man."

Lucy Fur's captain came to him
With fifty-thousand in his hand,
He laid his hand on his shoulder and said:
"This belongs to a wardriving man."

When I wrote to the Conservatives concerning support for Keith Martins bill to rescind section 13 of the human rights act I copied several BC MP's, the Prime Minister, Rob Nicholson, and Jason Kenney. I received only two replies - the PM's office and Jason Kenney.

While I think that it is important to lobby local politicians it would seem that Jason has been tasked to get action on this issue. Nicholson as usual is missing in action.

Kate, am looking to donate to your legal fund. Want to make sure it goes to the right cause. Any special instructions?

Also will be supporting Ezra Levant, Kathy Shaidle, Mark Steyn, Macleans and the National Post and their cohorts and not the Conservative Party (for now). I want real effort from the Parliamentarians to restore free speech and dismantle the long gun registry as promised. Expect support for Canadas traditional values, not the multiculti spin that has eroded the debate into farce. Thanks Warren K. Seems the Libs and NDP thrive on being divisive. They will pit race against race, men against women, rich against middle class, West against East, French against English, Canadians against Americans, and then claim only they can save us but at a very, very steep price. Used to be a lib but only had the likes of the CBC and CNN for news back then.) That is soooo over. Better get used to it Kinsella and co. Your vacuous accusations and race baiting are without any merit. IMO, metaphorically speaking, Tonya Hardings skates are not very sharp these days.

"At a time when “human rights” commissars such as Barbara Hall can make us deeply ashamed of our country, it is important to remember there are Canadians like Levant, Steyn, McMillan, and many others to make us proud."

- David Warren

Thanks Morgan Swift ... but he missed Jennifer "Don't do as we do, do what we tell you to do" Lynch. The "QC" is not Quality Control - it represents her "Best Before date" - expired so expect a mass sale soon at the CHRC.

One of her recent tidbits courtesy of Blazing Cat Fur:

Jennifer Lynch is of two minds

Jennifer Lynch Chief Commissioner of the CHRC is of two minds when it comes to staff conduct, alternatively she may simply "give good report" and is a bust as a leader.

Following is an excerpt from a discussion paper she assisted to prepare for the RCMP on the matter of the "Off-Duty" conduct of Police Officers.

Pity she hasn't insisted these same fine standards apply to her own staff of Hate Crime Clousseaus.

Bona fide occupational requirements and reputational interests respecting police work

In view of the current debates over the proper role of the public police, it is of course particularly difficult to identify a set of bona fide occupational requirements and reputational interests respecting public police work which would be universally accepted. The following are offered, therefore, merely as an illustration of how the regulation and control of off-duty police officer conduct might be made more consistent and principled, recognizing that the occupational requirements suggested may not necessarily be the most appropriate or acceptable ones. Even assuming that they are the right ones, however, the relative weight attached to them could be expected to vary according to the particular type of police work involved in any given case:

(1) An understanding of, and respect for, prevailing notions of peace and good order - necessary for the peace-keeping functions of police work;

(2) A respect for, and obedience to, the laws of the land - necessary for law enforcement functions;

(3) A demonstrated commitment to impartiality and against unacceptable prejudice and discrimination
- necessary for all police work involving contact with or consequences for members of the public;

(4) Demonstrated honesty, trustworthiness, and conduct and deportment worthy of general social respect
- necessary to ensure public confidence in, and hence accessibility to, police as service providers, especially in situations of conflict and crisis,
- also necessary to ensure credibility of police as witnesses in court;

(5) A specified minimum level of physical and mental fitness
- necessary for (and to be determined by) actual physical and mental demands of police work;

(6) Availability for, and fitness for, duty at all times
- necessitated by the nature of peace officer status which is an incident of employment as a police officer.

Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Posted by Blazing Cat Fur

MaryM: "I watched Duffy yesterday and I say he deserves TWO THUMBS UP! Duffy does get it."

I just watched the video clip from CTV ('no problem downloading it) and was happily amazed at Mike Duffy's candid and searching questions to Mark Steyn--yes, he does seem to get it. I was really satisfied by Mark Steyn's answers. Finally, in the MSM, these dark holes called the Human Rights [sic] Commissions, are having light shone into them for all to see.

But why now? I'm wondering why Mike Duffy, only now, seems to be quietly outraged by RW, aka Lucy, and the racket he and his HRC comrades have been involved in for at least five years.

The facts of this case have been unearthed and well publicized by Mark Steyn, Ezra Levant (and before him, Ted Byfield), Kate, and co. for a long time. Why, just now, are Mike Duffy and CTV becoming concerned about how Canadians' tax money is being misspent?

I'm curious. If they'd shown any interest in this travesty of "justice" before now, who knows? Maybe Mark Steyn, Maclean's, Kate, Kathy Shaidle, Ezra Levant, and Free Dominion wouldn't be being sued by these kangaroo courts.

Simple solution to stop RW. Pass a law making HRC pymts taxable and rectoactive to date of receipt.
Liberals should support this as they have spent weeks trying to find out if and when Brian paid tax on earnings.

Duffy has received a fair amount of flak on this forum before, and often deserved it. But his interview yesterday with Steyn was a wonder to behold. One by one it looks like the mainstream media are coming to the truth on this issue.

And as to the question "why now"? I think that it has always been so. When something is going fundamentally wrong in a society, or a company, or a family, or any structure in which there are many issues and many perspectives, , it takes a while for it to be noticed. It takes a few "canaries in the mine" to identify the issues.

Ezra Levant was our canary in the mine. Luckily, it was the loudest canary in world history.

For whatever reservations I've had about Mike Duffy before, I've got to say that on this file he really "gets it". He appeared more outraged than Steyn, probably because Steyn's been dealing with it for ages so the initial shock is over. I hope that Duffy plays bulldog on this one and holds the politicos feet to the flames.
I also read the article in NP about Kenney's speech to the victim group du jour. It seems dawn is beginning to lighten the horizon. Let's hope.
And kudos to Kate and SDA for spearheading the attack. Be sure to keep us appraised of the financial status/requirements of the struggle. Plenty more where the last cheque came from.

I disagree Lori as this whole thing was flying well under all our radar for a long time until we first got note of a special relationship when Don Butler wrote this in the Ottawa Citizen:

"One man's war on Internet hate
He calls himself more 'Aryan' than the hatemongers he chases, but Ottawa lawyer RW has become the bete noire of Canada's ne0-Nazis, writes Don Butler. (July 07)

This self-serving article was followed up by another one in November 07 trumpeting the success of RW's Libel suit over Paul Fromm.

Another site FreeDominion became a target back around then (maybe earlier) and that was the start of some collaboration and communication with Marc Lemire which eventually led to an expose of this whole scandel.

Lemire and his legal team scored some stunning successes and each victory only producd more damning facts such as the CHRC staff and Lucy posting as members of Stormfront and then discover these nasty postings and lay 13.1 complaints against Lemire. The March 25/08 hearing was a watershed as many observers including John from SocCon, the CBC and Mark Steyn were there. Steacy contradicited RW and their holiness faded fast.

FreeDominion were threatened with 1 - 13.1 complaint and now 2 Libel suits (at last count) by our mystery man RW.

Other bloggers (including Ezra) got hit with 13.1 complaints by Elmo of the CIC and libel suits by "Lucy" for merely repeating the evident and obvious.

When Steyn and MacLeans also got hit with a 13.1 complaint - that really started the battle which has produced some brillant tactics and results.

It is hard for me to comprehend how fast this has spread but then it was just Lemire and "Stormfront" at the get go and in all fairness - he was not labeled by Worn and friends as a wholesome poster boy. Much and many of the lies have been refuted but they still hang around as a dark cloud.

When others took up the fight like MP Keith Martin - the same labels were given to him but as he is an immigrant of colour and Ezra is Jewish - nothing could stick.

Just my take on the matter.

I don't think Jason Kenny free lances. And I don't think what he said was just maid up on the spot.

I hope the PM gives Kenny this file to run with. the guy knows how to close.

Duffy is the only canadian media on air person I have seen to air Steyn. This is the second time he has. And it looks like Duff has finally looked into this issue b/c he looked fired up(for Duffy that is).

Duff is very correct that this will not be touched until the next election has passed.
It would be too easy for the Libs to pull a Kinsella in the media on this one and spin it for points.

Racism in Canada isn't pervasive. What is pervasive is a group of people intent on protecting their phoney-baloney jobs. If your job depends on Canada being a racist nation, you'll find racism everywhere.

As for our "racist past", it will always be racist, no matter how much navel-gazing is done, no matter how many apologies by people who didn't do it to people it wasn't done to, so isn't it time to move on?

MatyM : " .... The facts of this case have been unearthed and well publicized by Mark Steyn, Ezra Levant (and before him, Ted Byfield), Kate, and co. for a long time. Why, just now, are Mike Duffy and CTV becoming concerned about how Canadians' tax money is being misspent? .... "

I doubt if it had not been for the continued discussion in the blogsphere that CTV would have given the HRC issue much publicity , even though it involved Macleans.

The issue of HRC's is sacrosanct in the eyes of the lib-left media , as the actions of the HRC's fly in the face of sacred multiculturalism and they only discuss the HRC abuses after being dragged into it kicking and screaming.

It is fascinating to watch how the influence of the MSM continues to bleed away day after day.

Does anyone seriously think that if the Internet had not existed , the various HRC abuses would even be touched by the MSM ?

Kudos to you Kate!

The reason the MSM is finally waking up to this issue is a result of the hard work and defiance you and other freespeechers have exhibited.
The word IS getting out and people are starting to notice.
I have had an ongoing email thread with many of my friends that has generated significant debate and awareness for over a year now. People are starting to see the importance of this issue and are speaking up, contacting their representatives and getting involved.
I have also mobilized and started writing my MLA and MP directing them as to my views and where my "supportive funds" will be directed.
A question; Could this be an effective election platform? Would it be an issue that unifies across party lines? Would it be a point worth pursuing?

LSSK - If only Lemire and Free Dominion had been hit by the HRCs, we would be no further along today than we were a year ago.

I have followed those events extremely closely, day by day practically, and I am among the first 10 people to sign the Free Dominion petition, and was constantly urging people at here at SDA and other blogs to sign it too. I know the history very well.

I agree Lemire did the hard slogging. He was defending himself capably, which he is certainly entitled to do. No doubt this has benefited the free speech movement.

But it is pretty clear to me from even a brief perusal of his various internet connections what he stands for racially and socially. No matter what might have been "refuted" about him, he remains someone whose views will never be acceptable to 99% or more of Canadians, thank goodness, and to whose defense no journalist, no politician, and no major organization can or will come, even as a matter of principle.

I firmly believe that what turned this around was the mainstreaming of the HRC assault. It was the attack on Ezra Levant and soon thereafter Mark Steyn. And their defiant response. Especially Levant.

I also think that this was the most spectacular success that the conservative blogosphere has ever had in Canada, maybe the world. Spreading the word could only be done this way, because the MSM would not hear of it.

But congratulating ourselves is premature. We are very far from victory - we have to continue to be careful because the deck in the media and government bureaucracies is stacked against libertarianism and against "freedom", and the universities and schools continue to pump out generations of individuals whose bias will forever be against us.

I tried to think what I would take as the first tangible sign of a major victory, and came up with the firing or resignation of Barbara Hall as the best example.

Brian: I agree with you. If the internet and blogs like Kate didn't exist, the pressure would not be on CTV to cover this story. BUT, the one good thing is Duffy finally gets it. I wonder if he will stay on the story and stay vocal.I have been following this story from the beginning because of Kate. It drives me crazy every time the dollar values start coming out. AND the people of Ontario voted McGuinty back in. Now, they are soon to be a have not province. Wonder why?
It makes me want to move to Ontario, get my feeling hurt and help them spend that extra 17 mil. After all they are looking for business... it......

Brian/Lori,

We are in agreement on this and it is recognized by David Warren that Blogs have become the major source of fast moving information and breaking news for many and is perhaps why Duffy has come out swinging - late but he landed some MSM blows others will have to follow upon:

"Mark Steyn’s website posts, and Kate McMillan’s “Small Dead Animals” blog in Saskatchewan, also belong on the shortlist of essential sources of information from day to day, and my reader may follow their links to more. The whole issue is proving too complex for conventional media reporting, although the National Post in particular has done an impressive job of trying to keep up with it.

At a time when “human rights” commissars such as Barbara Hall can make us deeply ashamed of our country, it is important to remember there are Canadians like Levant, Steyn, McMillan, and many others to make us proud."

But back to Lemire - it is irrelevant whether politicians, jounalists or the public (we) agree or disagree with his stand any more than we may or not agree with other victim - Bill Walcott (sp?) an anti-gay pastor in Edmonton.

They have a right to their opinions, a freedom to express them and deserve our support as we would expect Canadian support for whatever we hold near and dear.

Steyn with Duffy was terrific. I wonder if CTV realizes, though, that putting Steyn or Ezra on air puts the entrenched GTA Canadianism in peril, because they are fifty times more truthful and blunt and entertaining and articulate and compelling to listen to than any of the usual suspects they put on, most of whom seem to be playing a tired game.

When Ezra was interviewed on CBC radio a couple of years ago, brutally early in the morning for him, it was a watershed event, to me, not so much because he was on air but because the absolute calm fighting brilliance he displayed was so...unCanadian. Instead of beating around the bush and using platitudes and obsequious "we're all buds" saw-off chuckles, he calmly tapdanced on their heads and threw in a shave-and-a-haircut just for the heck of it. And he was happy the whole time.

It seemed obvious that his interlocutors weren't used to being put in a position of having to defend their default version of Canadian-inity. I had the feeling that the only possible response they could have to being put in that position would be to either a) quietly utter anti-semitic oaths, or b) work hard in the weeks and months after the interview to ensure that Canada would continue to remain a place where effective conservative voices are kept off the air.

BTW, just in case anyone hasn't already seen it, check out this video of Ezra on CTV from about a week ago knocking NDP president Ann McGrath's and Don Boudria's heads together. I don't think I've ever laughed as hard at an in-studio media clip as I did at approximately 2:42 when Ezra's full-screen flurry becomes a split screen showing Boudria and McGrath's reactions. They'd been on a partisan rampage, uttering words that you can tell they didn't even believe -- it was tired rote, and obligato -- but then after Ezra has at them for few seconds they're suddenly looking like a couple of severely chastened kids who just got caught telling a huge falsehood. It's absolutely hilarious.

Ezra's destined to be a media star one way or another. Any network that wants to build a bigger audience within the untapped non-GTA Liberal market should have Ezra on regularly -- he's entirely entertaining, and he's the most powerful antidote to cynicism known to man. I think there's a vast market out there that wouldn't miss a show he was on.

AGain, -- seriously -- do check out Boudria and McGrath at around 2:40 -- it's a "uh oh, we weren't expecting that" moment to remember.

Whoopsie. Here's the clip, "Ezra Levant takes down progressives...."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_dXoJdevAQ&eurl=

Rob Nicholson the top cop in this country and our esteemed Prime Minister whom I believed was the most
rational conservative to apply for the the PM job in a very long time are turning out to be more like Inspector Cluso. And Yosemati Sam.

Incompetent bumbling fools who are incapable of managing their own employees the bureaucracy, never mind a whole country.

It occurs to me that I would like to nominate Foghorn Leghorn for PM. I would vote for him.

EBD, many thanks for your intelligent, insightful post(s). I've already seen the Ezra TV "special", but I'm going to watch it again.

David Warren's also weighing in again--thank God! His ability to distil the issue(s) gives Ezra a run for his money: good thing they're both on the RIGHT side!

Saw Ezra do that smack down on Boudria and McGrath, EBD, priceless. They weren't expecting it, Boudria looked like he saw a ghost, both were finished, speechless. He had them by the short and curlies, no possible safe rebuttal.

Don't worry Jeff, you'll soon be seeing action from our Justice Minister and the PM, the timing has to be right when dealing with theses issues. The right move in the chess game can't be rushed.

I just finished (re-)reading P.J. O'Rourke's classic, "Holidays in Hell", and came across a phrase that, like so much of his work, is not only well-turned, but eerily prescient.

During a discussion of the atrocious condition of Nicaragua under the Sandanistas, O'Rourke observed that:

“Human rights commissions seem to go forth and multiply in places where a human right hasn’t been seen in years.”*

He wrote that in 1988 - nearly a generation ago. To my mind, it helps define the difference between a country that has a government, to which the people cede finite powers; and a government that has a country, and decides what rights the population thereof may, or may not, enjoy. Put another way, you don't need human rights commissions in a country where human rights are clearly set forth in founding and inviolable legislation - and where the onus is on the government to prove why a right must be restricted, rather than on the citizen to prove why he or she should be allowed to exercise that right.

How can a "natural" right be subject to "reasonable restrictions"? It would be better had such rights as freedom of speech, thought, assembly and religion been designated "unalienable". Or is that too "American" a concept, and therefore valueless in the eyes of Canada's HRC apparatchiks?

*P.J. O’Rourke, Holidays in Hell (New York: Vintage Departures, 1992), p. 209.

They will have to shut the hrc's down, now that it has been shown they are corrupt.

There is no way that Canadians will accept two justice systems. The hrc's have been used to financially profit an unscrupulous person, and bolster political entities such as islam here in Canada.

Let's not forget Dr. Keith Martin in the kudos department. He's been swimming against the Liberal tide on this one.

Honey Pot writes, "There is no way that Canadians will accept two justice systems."

Wanna make a bet? Most Canadians don't even realize what a crock our real court, "justice" system has become via the Charter.

In my experience--and I've been aware of the HRCs' weasel ways for over a decade--most Canadians are just too busy "entertaining themselves to death" (Neil Postman) to give a flying **** about the real issues that are going to drown us.

Honry Pot, I wish you were right about this but, with the greatest respect--it's a lovely idea--I think you're not.

Lookout, Canadians didn't know about the two justice systems. It is just coming out now, a trickle in the liberal msm. The liberal msm is being forced by the Canadian blogsphere to inform every Canadian about the star chambers. Even if they try to sugar coat it, the hrc's stink of corruption. You have to remember that the media took their orders from the liberals for years, the media was the liberals. The only reason the liberals were called up for stealing all that money, is because of the infighting for power. We would never have known otherwise. The cbc used as the main propoganda tool. There were rumors, but no real stories on how the hrc star chambers operated. Our governments will be forced, by the Canadian people, to dismantle them. It will be an election issue for sure.

Give credit where credit is due - Duffy on CTV giving Mark Steyn air time to disclose the dirty workings of the Ontario and Alberta HRC's.

But while Duffy "gets it" regarding HRC's underhanded tactics, it's a long way from the rest of the Canadian MSM to "get it".

And besides I don't fully trust Duffy in this matter, let's face it, he can suck up to the
most corrupt servile political information peddlers in a nanosecond, while on air.

No Bill O'Reiily he.

One of the last time I heard a Canadian mention Mark Steyn on TV was Ken Rockburn with a derisive tone on CPAC some while ago.

So much for Canadian MSM and Mark Steyn.

As far as Connie and Mark Fournier are concerned they would, I suspect, still be in the wilderness on the issue of legal matters involving the HRC and the RW's , 'Jadwrrs', Lucy's, if not for the overreach of the HRC's to Levant, Steyn,and law suits for Shaidle, SDA and Kay of the NatPost.

The rest of MSM journalists are silenced lambs.

Will they wake up?

I agree, this would never be in the limelight if not for the internet blogosphere, Mike Duffy notwithstanding.

Brenda Martin for sure, Mark and Connie Fournier vs RW, not likely.

Free speech advocacy.

Labeling critics of Israel "antisemites".

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PICK.

ONE.

EBD - I love your post - you made me laugh again by reiterating that hilarious scene on CTV with Ezra, Boudria and Anne (NDP gal)!

I share your opinion of our Prime Minister lookout, the Prime Minister is waiting for a reason. I have watched Stephen Harper with pride and trust ever since he was first elected into the House of Commons (in 1983). I have never had any reason not to trust the Prime Minister; Stephen Harper is true blue, IMO. He is the mind behind what Preston Manning accomplished in the Reform Party, IMO. Like Winston Churchill, he knows his enemies....sometimes the worst enemy of an idea or a person poses as a best friend. Braveheart is a true story....keep that in mind Jeff.

David Warren has once again NOT disappointed me - he addressed the problem of 'oil for $$' and the consequences of the fanatical anti smoking crowd before it was even passing most people's radar. He has been in the same league as Ezra, Mark Steyn, Ted Byfield and Kate for years. David Warren spoke up for Liberty in the Dark Days of Puffin rule when most of the population didn't even remember when Canadians could be anything but PC in public. The Conservatives have given this nation free air to breath - even though it is a minority government - I felt as though I had just been released from a dark, filthy gulag the day the Conservatives won the last election. It was a great feeling that I will not soon forget. People like Mark, Ezra, David, the Byfields, Angry in the Great White North, The Captain at Captains Quarters, Conrade Black, Dave Rutherford, Candis Mclean...Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, Stockwell Day, Jason Kenny, Pierre Poileve, Gerry Ritz, Gerry Britkritz (wrong spelling - the MP who exposed the Gun control scam), Shiela Fraser....made this all possible because they spoke up for us!

As for Mike Duffy - he almost died a little while ago - I think he had a 'wake-up' call and is man enough to realize that he has been making a big mistake supporting overtly and through omission the nasty turn Canada took under the foul days of corrupt Puffin rule. I hope, for Duffy's soul's sake, that what we are seeing is not a 'set-up' for something else foul smelling and evil. Duffy did 'bleed' the blubbering Brenda M. story for days so he is not home free in my books- yet.

Oray for the poor little guys....
http://tinyurl.com/4qbxu9

The prime cause for worry"

scientists will study the mammal in depth to figure out how they evolved and how to keep them around.
Yup. Bring scietists (not all) but most in and they will declare an emergency,which the gubbermint will want to help with. Poor little guy is history.

I agree Jema54, that PM Harper probably understands this issue and feels as we do, but has not addressed it directly because it has started to be addressed fairly successfully without the need for him to use up any political capital or take any risk on it. I believe when the time is right, or when it's truly necessary, he'll come in in the appropriate manner.

Our number one goal, in the coming years, is to maintain the conservative hold on power so as to try to gradually undo the immense damage that has been done by a decade or more or Liberal appointments and policies.

One can assume that Jason Kenney speaks for the PM I would hope, and considering the political climate and the realities, his words as discussed in this topic were quite remarkable and significant.

Regardless, as conservatives and libertarians, we should not be looking for politicians to do our work. We need to do it ourselves, as has been done so successfully in the past few months.

It is going to made an election issue. It will separate the men from the boys, or the right from the never right.

it seems that jason kenney's name is now on the list of active individuals against the "underminers".

for months the questions have been - where is the conservative party on this fundamental issue of freedom of speech and when will they speak up?

now we have it. the conservatives have officially fired their first warning shot across the bow of those who would suppress charter rights in the name of "an improved version". this is late to the game by this citizen's standards but it will still be a good day to remember. hats off to mr. kenney!

A fish rots from the head first. After reading Commissar Babs disturbing villification of Mark Steyn, I realize how the corruption of the CHRC began at the very top. Lucy is merely a willing tool:

I submit that Babs called a meeting to try to figure out how to gen up more thought crimes to justify the existence of her CHRC racket. So into the picture steps the obliging Lucy and the Blind Mice who hatch their corrupt scheme to sting FreeDominion and other innocent folks. Meanwhile they are cheered on by the CJC, Punk Boy, and shyster lawyers who stand to make a lot of loot from the plethora of frivolous legal cases.

It is obvious from the way they drag out these cases for years, that the CHRC thugs are not compensated by the number of cases they close, but rather how many cases are presented to them. They probably argue that they would need more taxpayer money to actually close these cases any sooner than half a decade, as their victims slowly twist in the wind.

The Canadian 'Human Rights' Commission is all about money -- preserving phony jobs for useless bureacrats and generating obscene legal fees for lawyers unencumbered by any hint of a nagging conscience.

Canada is home to the most polite folks on the planet. That Canada would need these fascist thought police is laughable.

Canada's problem is hardly that she is plagued by "hate speech". Rather she is being destroyed by excessive politeness. Her complacency led to a lack vigilance vital to protect her basic human rights from the opportunistic wolves.

Free Canada from the chains created by these parasitic human rights deniers; send them packing to Cuba or China where they belong. Repeal the Canadian Human Rights Act -- rip it out by the roots starting with section 13.

From the first moral relativists:

"There are no absolute rules of conduct, either in peace or war. Everything depends on circumstances."
Leon Trotsky

Leon Trotsky explains "Lucy's" behaviour and the extreme leftist control artists very well.

Of course Trotsky's demise proves the validity of this statement.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

Just curious. Has anyone ever added up just how much money Warman has made from his Human Rights Commission cases--the ones where he bleeds and feels distress on behalf of everyone he brings actions for? Does anyone think the words "extortion" and "blackmail" are going too far?

I really liked that Steyn/Duffy clip.

This beast will be brought down eventually. Its own hubris will ensnare its demise.

Barbara Hall Head of the Ontario HRC., herself said because she did not believe a Province as large as Ontario doesn’t have more hate, will & after June have the power of full a fledged witch hunter to seek out the hidden swamps of intolerance with no complaints.

Chilly yet? They went after the wrong folks In an Ezra Levant or Mark Steyn.
Canadians one can be proud of, as well the bloggers like Kate at SDA , right or left politically. Who with scant resources have joined battle against this pernicious “Club Stalin“. With there sycophants of tyranny playing the small dog jumping the large, like on a kibbles & bits commercial. Only this involves our individual liberties. If they win this Country will become Mugabed into penury . By the bludgeon of pseudo-law allied with the State enforcement. The camps can’t be far behind.

Already the rich have left this boat of ovine Tinged Borg compliance, for non taxed safe havens. We don’t see there money at tax time only the slobs who work. Heck even Mr. Martin got off without paying any penalties by transferring a couple of billion. Of course the upper class here has two systems of taxation. As I said years ago, to these people Canada is just a bolt hole, part lab experiment

The anti-Christian attitudes of the day just reflect a growing tendency back to barbarism stewed in the false spice of human rights. Another inquisition of a secular hue this time around held in the collor of their betters the “Religion of peace“. Both have the same ends but think they can control the other party achieving their respective agendas. One Marxist , the other Sharia law. Each ends in misery just like the lefts great triumph Zimbabwe. Or the Islamist Sudan.

Besides when Jews are being belittled as much as they are now, its only a short time till Christians join them. After all Christianity is a Jewish sect when all is said & done. Its just accumulated a lot of gentile ornamentations.

Even nature shows us Natural law that intersects perfectly with our social laws, yet
this is countermanded by Ideologues with visions of Utopia & bulldozers. Industry driven fanatics where a 100% conviction rate seems normal. That they are aligned with another totalitarian Utopian group. Says it all about this cluster of faux law practitioners. Jihad law anyone? It should be exercised from any Democracy that is true to that name. This is a foul thing in the basement of our polity. We should never have had star chambers. Its an evil, & embarrassment to all Canadians.

Just my opinion

Ezra Levant was our canary in the mine. Luckily, it was the loudest canary in world history.

Posted by: Lori

Now that is humor at its highest Roflmao!!!!!

[To all Conservative MPs, when asked about Keith Martin's motion to repeal section 13, reply:] "Motion M-446 was just recently tabled and will not be up for debate in the near future" and "I can assure you that when this Bill comes before the house for debate, I will follow it closely and will arrive at a position at that time."

"If asked about the Steyn / Levant cases," [respond by saying] "It is not appropriate for me to comment on particular matters that might be before the Canadian Human Rights Commission or the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal."
-Minister of Justice Rob Nicholson, who refuses to even speak to Mark Steyn

The spineless Conservative leadership are NOT supporting freedom of expression for Canadian citizens.

Therefore withdraw all support from these quislings and instead send donations directly to Mark Steyn, Keith Martin, and the Canuck Six.

The next time some political solicitor asks for money, tell them you already gave ... to courageous folks like Kate who are willing to stand up for freedom.

Marc Steyn will be on the Bill Goode Show on CKNW (Vancouver) Monday , May 5th. Not sure of the time but the show runs from 8.30AM to noon and is on the Chorus Radio Network for the first 2 hours(I think).

Horny Toad

National post is said in first comment "the single national newspaper with a backbone is reporting it. ":

The federal minister in charge of Canada's multiculturalism file cautioned
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reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Post
from WIKIPEDIA :

National post become a strong voice in support of the state of Isreal:

The National Post is a Canadian English-language national newspaper based in Don Mills, Ontario, a district of Toronto. The paper is owned by CanWest Global Communications and is published every Monday through Saturday. It was founded in 1998 by media magnate Lord Conrad Black
.....
Since Israel Asper's acquisition of the National Post, the paper has become a strong voice in support of the state of Israel and its government. The Post was one of the few Canadian papers to offer unreserved support to Israel during its conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon during 2006. [3]

One of its columnists referred to Hezbollah as "cockroaches." Canadian pundits argue whether the Post's support of Israel is a legacy of its late founder's political ideology or a shrewd business manoeuvre. [4]

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I agree to outlaw hate speech

but this can be misused or mismanage and misdirected to put too many people get arrested easily... in reverse to not hear the truth as well

If reporter said wrong they must fix their wrong if documents said this sentence you said is wrong and if they do not listen then law can help it here.

Is this give easy hand to let people and judge Muslim easy and if they see a Muslim born did crime generlize that to or blame or Islam or if a person made mistake blame all Muslim to pay the price!!

IF some group like Jewish are may look polite but abuse Muslim and keep them hungry and kill them with no reason for sake of power and land word can count but not act therefore hate speech is in control of hate crime and hate act as well and if Muslim said : death to America look like hate speech but if American allow to kill them they are lawful in their hate act too.

hate speech come from hate act therefore in order to stop the hate speech you should tell the world to behave and not kil and keep hungry people full and feed them and give unemployeement job and give lawyer diginity and give editor to tell the truth

In Candian media only like what they like to say in all opposition with Muslim and make all discriminatroy happier

I heard there was film festival few years ago in Australia and they made fun of Jesis christ and it was Muslim who took the palcare to stop made fun of prophet of god in Islam made the film about Moses or Jesis or Mohamd to made fun of htem or call them names is sin

and now if Media want to push this envolop to made Muslim angrier than what they are blaming for sep 11 to all to Muslim to pay price this is not acceptable

you must respect some law in other religion if not even you like it and not damage you to respec it such as when Muslim say do not made fun of our prophet why you like to say it find other subject to play with it or have fun

again freedom and border of freedom is some time confusing

if you like to take your cloth off Muslim should cover it again it is not up to you to made the fun of them
If Muslim like to eat halal food it is not up to Jewish Chrisitian or Hindo to change law of halal food and dictated to us the halal food should means this.

first educated yourself in Islam then talk more if you like to talk talk in private with your freind not to public . Public media should not say what they like to say if it is nto correct or reporter are not educated to know the details.

censor may sometimes need it since some time pulbic can not handle the all detail of truth . this is up to politician to control this as well. again this can be also misused too.

for more information about Islam go to this web page and do some kind of search engine to find your some of your answer
http://www.al-islam.org/

I do not see any thing said in national post also is correct too newspaper said what people like to hear it not what is fact is some times!
If I say I am national post and I am supporter of Jewish and Isreal all jewish lawyer or Jewish like to talk to them for sure I think reporter never should say I like who or dislike who should report the news and let otehr to judge it like election when it come in regard to religion or international politics. again this is my opinin I may be wrong too. Freedom of speech rigt!! while i do not belive Kate keep all her website nicely start from Muslim

I never saw even once Kate start talk about Muslim show they are good side or they doing anything good in Canada but I notice in past week she also change she may never see good Muslim that is may why and only depend on media and National post news !!

CNN and BBC and newspaper is importnat but still not tell all truth but we hope they change soon we need law to change them too to know the truth but whether or nto they can handle to know the truth or like to hear the truth and show in reverse since their audience are not used to hear real truth yet but Canadain are smart and kind people I am sure they will get it soon .

By all means, let's expose these quislings; then we will vote for whom? The Liberals? The NDP?

Harper's Tories have to live with the reality that Grits still have massive voter blocs in metropolitain areas, particularly GTA. Many of them have no problem with Hall inquisitor types (think as I do and you'll stay below the radar, OK?); so, we can't overplay our hand on this one.

This seems an ideal opportunity to bring Keith Martin back into the fold, at least as fodder should the left become truly revolting on this issue.

As much as I agree with the travesty and waste of it all, on this one, the Liberals might even feel confident enough to get a real leader and make a spin-smear run for power. Maybe the A-team will return and herald a New Age of the Royal Court of Liberaldom. No thanks.

The Grits would show Hall who's boss, right?

I intend to make it an election issue if there is no progress by then.

Assuming anyone cares what a Libertarian candidate thinks.

And get serious one can in fact advocate free speech *and* call someone an anti-semite. Society can and will regulate what speech is deemed acceptable without requiring the government to intervene.

hassan at May 4, 2008 12:09 AM

Hassan, you need to know that Wikipedia is a site that allows editing by its readers.

Go to the site, read the fine print at the bottom, and check it out for yourself.

Anyone can write anything they like, and it will stay, in print,until someone takes note of it, and corrects it or removes it.

It has become a game for those who like to add whatever may or may not be spun as the truth.

In Canada, you are free to worship whatever your religion you like.

You do not get to, though, demand that others participate in any religion.

People in this country are free to enjoy and participate in a religion, or are free to ignore them all.

Nowhere is it a law in Canada, that others must live by the teachings of your religion, outside of your mosque, or family.

Were you taught that was the case?

All Provincial HRC's should be abolished. Leave the Federal HRC but under the control of a Federal legal entity with process and transparency embedded in their processes.

The HRC game is Federal Charter territory and the provincial HRC's are pork barrel quasi legal wanna be's justifying their existence. Shut them down.

LW should face criminal charges and be forced to repay all awards and more for the trauma and damage caused to his victims. All legal fees should be on LW's tab.

CNN and BBC and newspaper is importnat but still not tell all truth but we hope they change soon we need law to change them too to know the truth but whether or nto they can handle to know the truth or like to hear the truth and show in reverse since their audience are not used to hear real truth yet but Canadain are smart and kind people I am sure they will get it soon .

Posted by: hassan at May 4, 2008 12:09 AM

Hassan is that last comment a threat?

It is also exactly what you said about needing laws, to change people to what you believe to be the truth, that people do not see good mulims. You want to impose your beliefes on others. Also maybe when the good muslims you talk about start denouncing muslim terrorists and the like of El Masiry we might start thinking there are some good muslims.

Canadians get it Hassan. They now realize that islam is a political movement, one that is imposed on people by force. A political movement that calls for the killing of apostates. A political movement that makes no bones about thier hatred for Jews, and we infidels. A political movement that Canadians will not allow to change the laws of the land to appease its followers.

My apologies for taking so long to reply to get serious (5:07 yesterday) but I do not post from work. Half a day isn't enough for the irk to wear off.

Free speech is if nothing else, utterly bound up in my right to label critics of Israel anti-semites if that is my opinion - without fear that some offended other will drag me in front of a government tribunal because they don't share my analysis. And if you think that critics of Israel aren't anti-semites, then get yourself a soapbox, or a blog, or your own magazine on your own dime, and trumpet what you think to the world. If the government can't come after me for stating my opinion, they can't come after you for saying I'm wrong.

Don't put the moron in oxymoron; the right to free speech advocacy is not and cannot be a reward for holding 'accepted' opinion.

And before anyone gets carried away with technicalities and misses my point, let me stress a) I don't care if critics of Israel are labeled anti-semitic or not, and b) I freely admit that I am making my point on Kate's dime.

victory over the hrc tyranny will not occur until all who are called before them refuse to go. and if a refusal means getting real dirty or dead then that is where we will have to go. you will not change the mindset of those who want to control the freedom of their fellow men with mere words. they will rise up and spew their venom unless they are destroyed.

The increasing power of the blogsphere to consolidate a message to government cannot be overlooked.

Take the recent case of Jason Kenny speaking in Calgary. Does anyone really think this would have occurred if Conservative supporters had not been inundated with complaints and threats of withholding financial contributions ?

I for one , have contributed in the past , informed my local MP , Jason Kenny and PM Harper that until the government addresses the HRC abuses , I will not contribute financially.

... perhaps it fell on deaf ears ... perhaps.

The increasing power of the blogsphere to consolidate a message to government cannot be overlooked.

Take the recent case of Jason Kenny speaking in Calgary. Does anyone really think this would have occurred if Conservative supporters had not been inundated with complaints and threats of withholding financial contributions ?

I for one , have contributed in the past , informed my local MP , Jason Kenny and PM Harper that until the government addresses the HRC abuses , I will not contribute financially.

... perhaps it fell on deaf ears ... perhaps.

" The federal minister in charge Canada's multiculturalism "

real first generation Canadian are aboriginal or native indian in Canada that they most of them live under poverty and alcohol and drugs
now let look are mutliculturalism next generation were French and English who immigrant to Canada then most people think after 100 years they are Canadian and other recent past 25 years immigrant can be called ' mutliculturalism' only because they do not speak English fluent or skin colour or religion are wrong

becuse all 90% of Canadian are immigrant to Canada and then we all 90% are multiculture group join here and we found Canada place to leave and then if you have more money or power or french or English only because your mother teach you only one Language which is English or Frech does not make you seat and think about how to control all other multiculturism in Canada

how do you know that federal minster or judges and police in Canada are nothave thier own prejedice or No prejedice just hate all Muslim

as some Muslim does not see it is serious to say " death to america " soon must stop in middle east so as North America should watch their mouth when they judge other group

who said you have to keep your belif in your home and not say it you can say anything you want of your belif as long as it is say in peace way not force way or abuse way

again if you let all multiculturism seat day and day in place of work talk about diffenet belif also is not work or may get worst senerio since people recongize you and know your differnces and keep you seperated from thier freinship list since you are differnt

is being diffent can be good or some times is not good like size of your finger in your hand one is smaller than others as god create people different colour, belief look different country and language how you can say you born in Canada or your generation came to Canada you are more Canadian than new citizen or you know more than them to get control them again people must educated before take the charge I believe.

final words while I am not going to respond to anybody else since I am busy today sometimes when you tell the black reference " black people' tehy think this is racialhate word while they are black and nothing wrong to be black god create black colour and give them beatuy and heart and same thing human can have it but culture of druges abd rubbery and film maker to show balck should represtnt made black people loose credit . I bleive Jewish people loose credit after creation of Isreal and killin so many innocent Muslim people when we say Jewish they will think all Muslim hate Jeiwh which is not true. Muslim also may loose some credit for some terrrorist activities to they get blame in total shape and we are not hear to support any local or internatioal crime as Muslim Canadian.
Finally all German lost credit because of Hitler and Italian loose thier credit by god fatehr movies and Saprano who kill his own brother for money and drugs!! and power again this is show media made people seperated and how can be changed to seperated criminal from real ordinary people and how we can talk and not lable quickly you are bunch of hatred who hate Jewish since Jewish in Canada are so gosip and some times talk too much in media to show themselves innocetn and blame all problmes to someone else not to their owne people while in comprasion Muslim population are so small like 1.5 billion and Jewish are only 15 million in all world I bleive still they keep the media and law in Canada and judges to changes their law can be trickly and miniority made charge for majority of population in world. and if christian say Jewish are not smart enough to get it that after Moses Jesis born and that was god order and still Jewish are not bleive Jeiss as prophet of god at least Muslim are blieve Jesis is prophe to of god then why canadian are listen to Jewish more than Muslim while if Jewish were smart enogun never deny the so big fact and act so ignorance and so as in international politic they ingnore the fact and problems to otehrs not to themselve to stop killin Muslim in Middle east and give their dam land back to them land not worth to do steal and do crime and contineu crime killing innnocent civilina is crime.

plus Canada should not act like Middele east that is reason so many middle eastern left their county because in middle east goverment are made their owne people to die since they are not take care of their charge while in Canada people take control of goverment to let them have first security and safty then food on table then we can talk in middle east civilin die to keep the goverment alive for their crime that is reason people immigraned to canada to find peace and safty but when it come to job position we dealin so many discrimination that frech and English think tehy are better than all new immirgratn and should rule them all with no research.
I do not have time to respond any more I come only to you hear some voice of Muslim people too.
Islam is the best perfect relgion and still becaue Muslim are look differnet wear differnt cloth as Muslim woman should not show their body to other men who are not first relative Isalm has though law to ban Men to not watch otehr woman and not direct eye contact and mean keep the eyes and Muslim men can not show or walk with revealing cloth too. Muslim eat different . Muslimm tax is differnet we have two kind of tax Zakat and Khoms and Muslim marriage is diffiernt and so many relatioship among couple are ban in Islam which is ok among christian Muslim wash tehri body differnt Muslim pray god 5 times per day and so many different but what I said none can hard to hear or hurt anybody else we are only differnt but we belive we know the best too. because we have the best religion to complete our life. I am sure so many not agree with me. research about Islam before gosip us goodbye to all. have a nice day. you do not hear any more post from me.

Hassan : " ... I do not have time to respond any more I come only to you hear some voice of Muslim people too. Islam is the best perfect relgion "

Hassan are you a "Lucy in Disguise" HRC troll , attempting to provoke some racist comment to be used by the HRC ?

You are entitled to your opinions , but you came to this country , so perhaps you should consider accepting some of it's values. If not , you are free to go elsewhere if Canadian values of tolerance and freedom of speech are such a strain on your life.

End all these stupid speech codes at these schools and collages and punsh those university adminastrators who inact and enforce them

Be very suspicious of comments in this present environment.

Muslims, according to hassan's information, must have a terrible time adjusting to life in a free democracy. Why do they wish to remain here when it's such a struggle to battle freedom against their religious dictates?

I just found interesting news posted:

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008498.html

by small dead animals:
How do you belive this story. 3 years passed and never Loblaw post to public showing they scared of Mrs. Kermani. If they scared of her then why nobody show up when they got supinaz to stand for witness to court and then why their lawyer quash and cancel all witnesses. We know Misom Halal food companies well. They are good people. IF two parties are argue in business this argue nothing to do where they come from whether or not they are Iranian origin like Mitra Kermani or German Jewish origin like Michael Kimber inhouse lawyer of Loblaw or Italian such as John Tavaolair again this is notthing to do if the two parties wheter or not Jewish Muslim or Catholic.

Mrs. Kermani never charged criminal harrasment in any criminal court in Canada . She also never got arrested for life treat which is very big offence in criminal law in Canada we do not know what you are talking about this.

Plus John Tavolri are fired and so as other employees who terminate Misom busines a year ago for their bad performance and everybody know executive of Loblaw are not good enough that is why Loblaw fired 1000 of high salary executive of them for their bad performance and this figure some peopel said is more than 1000 they gone fired so far.

Being a woman especially Muslim woman to make Halal food in male industry of food in canada is very challenging how do you know may abuse her so much.

finally if for any reason company want to breach contract even if the person is good employee not like by head office to continue the contract with them they must pay them a money and some compensation in Mrs. Kermani instead they lable her terrorist only because she born 25 years ago in Iran is not morally legally based on any human right and court documents never proof any illegal so far from Mitra Kermani and most likely is big company only did not lke to pay damage of termination made up all those story.

Misom Halal food made real halal food and go and look who is replace them in Loblaw companies they replace Misom with alsafa halal food who are Jewish Romanian origin who has history of mix halal meat with Kosher and non halalfoods or they replace them with piller german origin curretnly sell under cresent lable but that is piller food behind cresent food and mix so many meat together or with Maple lodge who are Irish lable Zabidheh halal while the products is not hande slaughter andmisleading Muslim lables therefore Loblaw asked Misom halal food to produced more than 100 items then terminated all not let even one stay in the shelf by order of JOhn Tavoalri wih no food background hired by John Lederer to made those show John Talvari even left Canada after all wrong he did.

The arugment of Misom halal food with Loblaw wasnot over Italian veses English it was main issues over they change not like to proceed halal food and not listen to the way halal foos should produced and also based on bad executive they hired later they fired them after Miosm left too and so many people in high level of Loblaw has not idea and trust Michael kimber under oath did so many lies to court and supported story of John Tavolari.

so far based on court no fault found from Mitra Kermani or Misom halal food some misunderstanding left which is under appeal but Mitra Kermaninever charged for criminal harrasment again this is new Story Elizabith new vp of communicaiton of Loblaw made to delay payment for Mitra Kermani damage to the newspapers.
Whetehr Misom back to Loblaw is based on if they follow law of civil human right and respect halal foods and respect Muslim woman and not discriminate Misom employee May be they back by condition other wise less likely they will back to Loblaw. do not trust what you see in newspapers is true story . The end.

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National post said:
Former Loblaw supplier denies making threats
Halal Products; 'Aggressively' talked to store management

Financial Post
Published: Wednesday, April 16, 2008

Posted by: legal advice at April 19, 2008 12:10 PM

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A Toronto food supplier accused of threatening senior executives at Loblaw Cos. Ltd. denies harassing the grocer's management, and says she was fired because of internal dissent at the company.

Mitra Kermani, whose contract to supply Loblaw with Halal food products ended in 2005, said she has trouble winning business from new customers because they "are scared to deal with us."

"Never, never in my life did I threaten anyone," she said in an interview. "I was aggressively talking to them, but I never threatened anyone's life."

Ms. Kermani was responding to a story in the Financial Post last week that quoted court documents detailing her alleged three-year campaign of harassment against Loblaw's management, including death threats and surprise visits to executives' homes. She could not be reached for comment when the story ran.

This week, Ms. Kermani disputed court documents filed by Loblaws that accuse her of phoning a Loblaw executive with an Italian surname and threatening that she had "taken care of lots of Italians" while repeatedly slamming what the manager thought sounded like a meat cleaver against a cutting board.

The executive demanded Loblaw's in-house lawyer do something to stop the alleged harassment, the documents say.

"I never did that," Ms. Kermani said. "I like Italians."

Ms. Kermani also said an alleged threat to another executive that she would "cut his tail off and shoot him in the head" was an old Iranian expression, not an actual threat.

Ms. Kermani said she is appealing court orders that found she breached a peace bond ordering her to have no contact with Loblaw management.

Loblaw, she said, made up the allegations because the company owes her money for cutting off a contract to supply chicken and other products prepared under Islamic guidelines.

"If they want to terminate my business, then they have to pay me," she said, adding that the company was turned upside down by "internal competition."

"The top people didn't know what the bottom people were doing."
by: national post:
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=448138

Hassan's summary of his Muslim religion and the many differences between our cultures is interesting.

I just want to add that he forgot to mention the major difference we place on education in our two societies.

Most Western countries try to educate all of its citizens to the best of their abilities.
In todays techno world it is important to utilize every mind in the country to the best advantage to help the nation grow and prosper.

I have never understood any mentality that forbids or restricts half of its citizens, ie women, from adding to the general good of the nation, like the Muslim religion apparently does.
This attitude may be changing but there still seems a lot of resistance to it.

BTW, here is an interesting comparison in education priorities.

Out of Hassan's 1.5 bil Muslims there have been only 6 Nobel prize winners.

In contrast, the 15 million Jews have been awarded about 165 Nobel prizes.

WOW MAN. a lot to digest.
1. yes we have 2 justice systems. a. the criminal code. and 2. the muslim one (I mean the CHRC). and 3 (Oh I miscounted) the CYJ (canada youth justice? act).
2. A+ to Mike Duffy on the Steyn interview. I've written him to say so, have you?
3. D- to Rob Nich. No reply to 20 emails....Steve should fire him. Not responding to supporters, not acting on an obvious file.
4. D- to minister of defense for hiring Lucy!
5. A+ to Kate et al for the fight!
6. A+ to Ezra for being the champion for the cause!
7. A- to Mark Steyn for tempering his remarks to aid the McLeans defence.
8. A+ to the NP for the leadership role in the MSM to report the CHRC outrage. I don't do news papers, but I bought a subscription.
9. C-- to the CPC for sitting on their hands, even though they could cram through a repeal of s13.1 and the Lieberals would swallow it. REAL CHICKEN SH!T.....

Cow a bung a!

Canada or KANADA is slowly becomming a socialists nation

Candian culture originally only like

-Bikin contenst for let woman walk and men give them score 1 out of 10

Muslim said those men does not have no mother no wife no sister that is why let otehr men watch them family

- Irish and German festival for beer drinking

Muslim said Never drink and safe drive for ever

- Christian culture change moses jewish order if Moses got ordered by god for not eat pork even christian not take order from the same god theythink they smarter than god and when Islam also said what Moses said as god order not eat pork again christian said this is against mutli culture of christina in world is eating pork is culture or is part of religion of Christian and you only change it

lets talk about otehr Candian origin culture we foce to Mutli culture can be not necessary related to religion
such as bullieness in Canada and America under call themselve red neck is too high in office work they talk so polite but they are bullies and mostly bullies are not harras anybody but also damage slowly take self confidence from theri competitor of them read harrasment verses bullies in Canada if red neck Canadian act with bully to Muslim they may see other side of Muslim that may look like harrasment while we say it self defense. fighting bullienes in Canada this is part of culture search engine
Harrasment vs. bullieness

- dance club party room why Candian like dance with opposite this is not good may we say they are see it as their culture you can dance only with yoru wife or siste or close aunt or not withe other woman again this is culture while Muslim are not like it.

now let talk about real candain culture and see what is good or bad about it as well and see why Muslim think are not good and may look interesting for you to know otehr part of our opinion.

as candian like some culture of Muslim and not like others we feel the same in Candian cutlreu in some as well can we say our opinion may made so many people mad about us but do not forger freedom of speech just for you to know we do not like so many thing about you

Candian culture originally only like

-Bikin contenst for let woman walk and men give them score 1 out of 10

Muslim said those men does not have no mother no wife no sister that is why let otehr men watch them family

- Irish and German festival for beer drinking

Muslim said Never drink and safe drive for ever

- Christian culture change moses jewish order if Moses got ordered by god for not eat pork even christian not take order from the same god theythink they smarter than god and when Islam also said what Moses said as god order not eat pork again christian said this is against mutli culture of christina in world is eating pork is culture or is part of religion of Christian and you only change it

lets talk about otehr Candian origin culture we foce to Mutli culture can be not necessary related to religion
such as bullieness in Canada and America under call themselve red neck is too high in office work they talk so polite but they are bullies and mostly bullies are not harras anybody but also damage slowly take self confidence from theri competitor of them read harrasment verses bullies in Canada if red neck Canadian act with bully to Muslim they may see other side of Muslim that may look like harrasment while we say it self defense. fighting bullienes in Canada this is part of culture search engine
Harrasment vs. bullieness

- dance club party room why Candian like dance with opposite this is not good may we say they are see it as their culture you can dance only with yoru wife or siste or close aunt or not withe other woman again this is culture while Muslim are not like it.

now let talk about real candain culture and see what is good or bad about it as well and see why Muslim think are not good and may look interesting for you to know otehr part of our opinion.

as candian like some culture of Muslim and not like others we feel the same in Candian cutlreu in some as well can we say our opinion may made so many people mad about us but do not forger freedom of speech just for you to know we do not like so many thing about you

Candian culture originally only like

-Bikin contenst for let woman walk and men give them score 1 out of 10

Muslim said those men does not have no mother no wife no sister that is why let otehr men watch them family

- Irish and German festival for beer drinking

Muslim said Never drink and safe drive for ever

- Christian culture change moses jewish order if Moses got ordered by god for not eat pork even christian not take order from the same god theythink they smarter than god and when Islam also said what Moses said as god order not eat pork again christian said this is against mutli culture of christina in world is eating pork is culture or is part of religion of Christian and you only change it

lets talk about otehr Candian origin culture we foce to Mutli culture can be not necessary related to religion
such as bullieness in Canada and America under call themselve red neck is too high in office work they talk so polite but they are bullies and mostly bullies are not harras anybody but also damage slowly take self confidence from theri competitor of them read harrasment verses bullies in Canada if red neck Canadian act with bully to Muslim they may see other side of Muslim that may look like harrasment while we say it self defense. fighting bullienes in Canada this is part of culture search engine
Harrasment vs. bullieness

- dance club party room why Candian like dance with opposite this is not good may we say they are see it as their culture you can dance only with yoru wife or siste or close aunt or not withe other woman again this is culture while Muslim are not like it.

now let talk about real candain culture and see what is good or bad about it as well and see why Muslim think are not good and may look interesting for you to know otehr part of our opinion.

as candian like some culture of Muslim and not like others we feel the same in Candian cutlreu in some as well can we say our opinion may made so many people mad about us but do not forger freedom of speech just for you to know we do not like so many thing about you