Kate, if I could find a and marry a woman with your sense of humor I would be far better off than I am now.

LMFAO.

Ugh.

What more can you say?

Do people like these examples really exist? That is absolutely sick.

Just when I thought SDA could not possibly get more cheerless! Look out folks, the crackheads are coming, and they are bringing their global warming rants with them, and if you are not careful they are going to drag you before the human rights commission. Try and have a flaw free Sunday, eh Kate?

As a person in the social services industry and I do mean industry BOY CAN I RELATE.

I'm sure its even worse here in Canada as we have Liberal unaccountable judges that keep giving the kids back to their biological parents. For example did you know that being a CRACK DEALER who has 13 other children does not make you a bad parent? Apparently you just need some skills training and it's all good. Good grief it's a life energy sucking job for sure. I keep consoling myself that at least we get to save some o the children.

While never exposed to anything quite as grotesque as what this woman obviously has had to deal with, as a medical trainee and subsequently as a small town doctor, I also rapidly reached the conclusion that some people are simply beyond hope. We can't cure mesothelioma; we can't cure ALS and there are certain people who with the existing technology, psychotherapy and pharmacology simply cannot be helped. Every attempt to "help" them is simply enabling their dysfunction and putting anyone, particularly children in their care, is simply a bureaucratic form of suttee, immolating the innocent on the the dysfunctionals' self-ignited and self-fueled funeral pyre.

And yet the Libtards sneer at the thought of the opening up of mental institutions in the late 1970's as a communist plot. Just look what it did to the fabric of society. And figure out this shining Libtard double standard: We open up the institutions (a la Cuckoos Nest) letting the inmates free to roam our cities and suddenly, viola, Ronald Reagan is blamed for the 'homeless' problem. So at the expense of all the people whom society should collectively care for, the Libtards now have a convenient excuse to point the finger at conservatives saying, 'see, you do not care for the less fortunate.'

These people should all be wards of the state.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Yes, Allan it is real. The social workers have no say. The government of the day tells you to put that baby back in the abusive useless parents home, that is what you do. Liberals have a belief that addicts having their children with them, makes them want to clean up their act. Which we all know that is a crock. An addicts first and only love is themselves, then their drug. Nothing else matters. A child is just a guaranteed welfare cheque to them.

Yes, Allan it is real. The social workers have no say. The government of the day tells you to put that baby back in the abusive useless parents home, that is what you do. Liberals have a belief that addicts having their children with them, makes them want to clean up their act. Which we all know that is a crock. An addicts first and only love is themselves, then their drug. Nothing else matters. A child is just a guaranteed welfare cheque to them.

Yes, Allan it is real. The social workers have no say. The government of the day tells you to put that baby back in the abusive useless parents home, that is what you do. Liberals have a belief that addicts having their children with them, makes them want to clean up their act. Which we all know that is a crock. An addicts first and only love is themselves, then their drug. Nothing else matters. A child is just a guaranteed welfare cheque to them.

So in the end, it's all about Bri, then is it? We are to believe that no one warned Bri about the type of people Bri would have to deal with on a daily basis?

Bri didn't snap. Bri just couldn't carry on with the pretense that Bri really cared.

Tom Robinson at May 3, 2008 9:31 AM

Are you ready to fight me for her? Be warned that I wield a pretty hefty keyboard and gobs of geeky devices, so...

Oops, I think I just lost.

Honey Pot, wow, I guess I've been insulated from these types of problems all my life. You know, parents that actually cared, and barely even drank, never mind the drugs thing.

I could care less about the adults, it's the kids I care about.

Honey Pot - Posting on a Blog 101. Click on Post once and once only - wait.

Hmm, book smart, people stupid.

Returning kids to any abusive situation is a major flaw of our society. Been going on for decades, 'mothers' are both good and bad, should not be given special consideration just because you have a uterus and can produce a baby. IF we were truly progressive the "KIDS" would always be safe, stable and sound in their environment with or without a bio-mom/dad. Put the kids first.

Allan this is all true, and there are even more horrific cases. Parents who have an addiction or self control issues -abuse, anger, neglect, such as to the point of losing your child should never be allowed the kids back until at least two years of stability and proof of being sober and clean.

If you can't take care of yourself you've no business bringing another into the world and expect everyone else to pay the bills and do 'your' work. And raising kids up right is work.

Thanks, Kate, for posting this. I must say, it does open my eyes. Man, those Americans...they treat their children with such savage depravity. It boggles the mind. Is it the fact the US is a predominantly white and Christian country? Is it the Republicans, who have ruled for most of the last 25 years?

Why do you think Americans abuse their children like this, and in such - judging from the posting - great frequency? I mean, jeez, taking part in infant-dropping ceremonies would be a step forward for these frightening and immoral Americans.

jr,
You think the border stops all the social ills here like cbc, mctv and etc., tells you it's like?

you also come off like a voyeuristic type, getting a kick out of others suffering while pounding those that are simply pointing out a problem.

Sorry, Idd, try again. You just described the right wing conservative movement.

I just love it when a liberal gets mugged by reality and turns a 180.

Jesus said the poor will be with you always. And to love the poor.

Not because you can help them. Because you can't. And it's hard to love them.

Bush derangement syndrome sufferers should also never be allowed to breed. Johnnyboy,you write a lot of crap but to trivialize the tragedies of these children so you can feel superior and take a poke at the USA is so childish.

wallyj...johnny dingbat will say anything to get the attention he craves,just like a spoiled child,so describing him as childish is pretty accurate.

Yep, typical day in the USA -- just like this in my neighborhood, eh

The crackhead mother with 27 cats: I called you in advance to set up our appointment. You KNEW I was going to be at your house that day...why did you answer the door with a CRACK PIPE IN YOUR HAND????

Sorry about that.

I'm not making light of these tragedies, and I think it's disgusting that you'd twist my words around to suit your preconceived idea of who I am, and your agenda to bash anyone who doesn't agree with conservative politics. I think the stories outlined in the linked article are horrendous, and I'm actually glad Kate took the time to show us how an apparently countless number of Americans treat their children.

Actually it is a typical day in your neighborhood, how about making an appointment, nobody answers the door, but mommy drives up with baby in the car with the smell and smoke of pot et al wafting out of the car? How about said baby then tests positive for crack and pot? Second hand fumes/smoke aren't a problem for their little wee developing brains, right? How about judges that give babies back so mom can haul them to the methadone clinic? How about the mommies that sell all their kids cloths and equipment that the state provides so they can buy more drugs? How about mommies that leave their babies in bed while they go out and party? Thats not a safety issue because they can't climb out of the crib and get into trouble. The baby is just going to sleep anyway, why bother be home? How about the mommies that won't protect their kids from the new boyfriend's charming brand of no-nonsense discipline?

Think Canada is better because we have social programs? Makes it worse for the kids, because everybody is only interested in giving the parents more chances to get their life together, not enough interest in sparing the child the pain and chaos.

Sorry, Idd, try again. You just described the right wing conservative movement.
Posted by: JohnnyRingo at May 3, 2008 11:43 AM

{ insert a little chuckle here }

Try again jr and this time without the self projection, k?

Posted by: Orlin @ 12:08

BAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Dropped my ack pipe and spewed my coffee on that one!

;-)

LOL ops, crack pipe....

"where du 'cr' went - hav no ider! Just like 'em little buggers, er, kiddies they jsuta keepin disepearin on me!"

The Trudeau Charter has a great deal to do with all of this—in fact, it has EVERYTHING to do with it. People’s rights are promoted and protected: to hell with responsibility. Hey, what’s THAT?

Most of us here are intelligent and observant enough to have noticed the flourishing of seriously anti-social behaviour just about everywhere since the ramifications of the Charter became evident—in about 1990 (when the fallout of the case law started to be noticed), mostly under the L/liberals’ watch.

We’ve noticed that society’s lowest common denominator folks seem to be using the Charter as a battering ram to force the rest of us to both allow their damaging behaviour and then pay . . . and pay . . . and pay for it: medical costs, welfare payments, their kids in expensive special ed. classes, free legal counsel, the intervention of social workers, etc. These social parasites are a total blight on our once proud and free country.

In the public education system, kids, especially if they’re considered “disadvantaged”, are let off the hook all the time. And many of them have this horrendously anti-social habit reinforced in their inadequate homes by their inadequate, irresponsible, reprehensible parents (who are, invariably, treated with kid gloves by administration). I’ve had to call in social workers on occasion. It’s hardly worth it: the ones I’ve dealt with usually want to coddle the kids too: be nice to Johnny—even if he’s been completely insubordinate and is a bully, to boot. Then there are the parents who harass the teacher for involving CAS, and are allowed by the administration to do so. The whole system’s broken.

A friend of mine was a foster mother, who cared for the babies of crack addicts: yup, kid number seven—like all the others, addicted at birth—couldn’t immediately be adopted, but had to be warehoused in a foster home for the nearly two years—at our huge expense for lawyers and the foster care—while the addicted mother used the system to exercise her “right” to get her child back. Then, when it was finally determined that she had forfeit that “right”—duh—her child, who’d bonded with the foster family, was then available for adoption and removed from the only family he’d known. This happens all the time. I’d call that “cruel and unusual punishment”.

It’s very clear that our “all me, all the time” society—the result of the l/Liberal Charter mindset—is child averse: the “rights” of the adults trump the needs of vulnerable children all the time. Disgusting. We’re reaping the whirlwind of the Charter’s permission for selfish, immature adults to behave badly. And those of us who ARE responsible get hit twice: first, by the negative behaviour and its fallout of the irresponsible adults, and secondly, by their “right” to force the rest of us to pay to try to clean up their mess.

What a bloody crock. And to say these truths publicly would probably be grounds for an HRC prosecution. Double bloody crock!

Yes lookout, the Trudeau Charter has everything to do with what goes on in the US. Gosh you're smart.

Kate, please, for the love of fools and little children (i.e. Johnny Maudlin), please post something about butterflies and kittens to cheer him up. He's so allergic to reality, you know...show some compassion.

Yes, it's true that the Charter is not the only factor in the reprehensible behaviours being discussed here, but it’s certainly a major factor in this country, re aiding and abetting them in all kinds of ways—one being that the Charter actually protects, and even rewards, the perpetrators. Another is that anyone who dares to tell the truth about the anti-child atrocities going on right under our noses, financed by us, is in danger of being hauled before an HRC.

It seems to me that any decent person would be appalled by these unsavoury realities.

This isn't a 'Conservative' or 'Liberal' ... Anyone who thinks it is, is so blinded by their political bias that they can't think straight.

As I see it this is (at its core) a problem with how are welfare system is set up, which no political party has ever seen much of a need to correct. Welfare is given out regardless of any value that a person provides for society, whether they’re doing anything to improve their situation, and forces people to be on welfare long term (because they can’t work or go to school to improve their situation).

Ultimately, I think we’d be better off supplementing the income of individuals who were working fulltime and did not earn an adequate amount to support a reasonable lifestyle; it is probably not the best solution but it is better than what we have. As long as someone can sit around doing crack all day without any risk of starving to death they will sit around doing crack all day; on top of that, if they have a legitimate source of income (welfare) which justifies that their children can be returned to them their children will be returned to them.

Uh, ulianov, you will find that lookout, DrD and crazymomma are posting about the same or worse conditions existing in Canada. As lookout has stated Trudeau's charter was the cause of this social disaster, as predicted, here in Canada.

Please try and keep up.

Thanks, Dave!

Right...before Trudeau came around there was no drug abuse, no child abuse and no prostitution. The stupidity around here is incredible.

Don't put words in people's mouths, uli . . . whatever.

Putting words in people's mouths, eh?

"The Trudeau Charter has a great deal to do with all of this—in fact, it has EVERYTHING to do with it."

Posted by: lookout at May 3, 2008 12:52 PM

You seem to think that "Leave it to Beaver" or "Father knows best" are historical documentaries showing how society existed before Trudeau ruined the world. And you're a teacher?!

Only through rose colored glasses could SDA's cadre of progressive lieberals find the blame of social poverty/drugs/crime problem on being American and/or conservative.

Anyone with rudimentary googling skills can find the disgusting side of humanity all over the world.

I could never be a social worker. Not because I don't care about my fellow humans but I'd be in trouble real fast for prescribing psychiatric therapy from the offices of Dr's Smith & Wesson.

This is the most heart-wrenching and horrible stuff I have ever read.

I don't have too many answers, but I have a lot of questions.

I do know that Turdeau started the elimination of morality, integrity and ethics as an integral part of the Canadian way of life.

God help us all

whatever, you're proving yourself to be a fool. I guess I have to SPELL IT OUT for you: the words you put in people's mouths are not the ones you quote, but these ones, " . . . before Trudeau came around there was no drug abuse, no child abuse and no prostitution". NO ONE here said that.

Smarten up.

lookout:

I didn't put words in anyone's mouth. Stop trying to squirm out of what you wrote. You blame the Trudeau Charter for all of the problems in society today. You weren't even smart enough to write "Canadian" society, but that makes no difference. Do I have to copy and paste every idiotic statement you wrote in your 12:52 post to show how twisted your thinking is? To think that there were no societal ills before Trudeau, or thinking that the problems only started after Trudeau demonstrates that you are delusional.

lookout @ 2:17: "Yes, it's true that the Charter is not the only factor in the reprehensible behaviours being discussed here, but it’s certainly a major factor in this country [CANADA], re aiding and abetting them in all kinds of ways—one being that the Charter actually protects, and even rewards, the perpetrators."

Then, completely contradicting the clear sense of these words, ulianov, who obviously has serious language processing and comprehension problems--as a teacher I have remediated countless ulianovs--wrote, "You blame the Trudeau Charter for all of the problems in society today . . . "

Then this person spins another complete fabrication: "To think that there were no societal ills before Trudeau, or thinking that the problems only started after Trudeau demonstrates that you are delusional." Except that I never suggested any such thing.

ulianov, try reading and processing paragraph two of my 12:52 post. Good luck!

And the delusional state carries right on with you ulianov, if you do not recognise that the world that has been brought upon us by that charter has made the protection of children immensely more difficult.

Is it the cause of all evil? Of course not. Would kids and the defensless be safer without it? Well, we will never know now, will we?

Oh, lookout, you mean this one:

"Most of us here are intelligent and observant enough to have noticed the flourishing of seriously anti-social behaviour just about everywhere since the ramifications of the Charter became evident—in about 1990 (when the fallout of the case law started to be noticed), mostly under the L/liberals’ watch."

So, anti-social behaviour wasn't flourishing before 1990?

And, before you wrote this:

lookout @ 2:17: "Yes, it's true that the Charter is not the only factor in the reprehensible behaviours being discussed here, but it’s certainly a major factor in this country [CANADA], re aiding and abetting them in all kinds of ways—one being that the Charter actually protects, and even rewards, the perpetrators."

...your wrote this @12:52:

"The Trudeau Charter has a great deal to do with all of this—in fact, it has EVERYTHING to do with it."

Other than trying to use 2:17 to weasel out of your first statement (which you are trying to do becasue it makes you look stupid), if you write that the Trudeau Charter has "EVERTHING" to do with all of these problems, that means that these problems did not exist before the Trudeau Charter.

It's no wonder that your co-workers think you are an idiot. God help your students.

"To the woman who didn’t want her child to be adopted by those “faggots”: It’s so refreshing to meet a woman who cares so much about her child for once! You’re right, honey. The Bible DOES say that homosexuals are an abomination to God. Tell me, what does the Bible say about punishing your toddler for crying by sticking him with your dirty syringe needles, thereby infecting him with HIV and hepatitis? I know the Bible says “spare the rod and spoil the child”, but I don’t remember anything about sparing infectious diseases and spoiling the child. Perhaps you were reading the New International Version? Incidentally, those two “faggots”, as you call them, have a few important things to offer your child that you have neglected to provide. What can a couple of faggots offer YOUR child, you ask? Well, first and foremost, they have JOBS!!!! Yes, that’s right, JOBS!!!!!!!"

So what's wrong with a woman going out in public and not covering her Volvo?

Wut?

Oh.

Gawd, you people's souls are ug-leee!

This meme of dubious antecedent is great for the plucking of emotional guitar strings, but how well does the alternative stack up?

http://www.scragged.com/articles/child-protection-and-the-confucian-cycle.aspx

If I want mindless sensationalism, I’ll buy a TV.

If I want to be reminded that people are naturally depraved, I’ll look in a mirror or read a bible (dizzy’s innuendo notwithstanding).

The surf is definitely “off” tonight.

Yes those things existed before Trudeau BUT back then no one was distributing free needles.

Those things existed before, BUT now the government has become an enabler.

Of course our leftists friends will deny this, like every problem that has been made worse by the left.

and who but a leftist would say that only Americans have weird depraved people on welfare who spend their days high on drugs and abuse or neglect their children?

Posted by: ulianov at May 3, 2008 4:33 PM

""""""Right...before Trudeau came around there was no drug abuse, no child abuse and no prostitution. The stupidity around here is incredible."""""

just so's you don't git confuzzed, yes there were problems before true-dough (other than true-dough and his ilk) became PM, but instead of working to a solution of these problems, PET made things worst, a lot worst. As PM it wus his duety to work toward solutions, he vacated his responsibility and enabled the lozzers!!!!!!

Look out folks, the crackheads are coming, and they are bringing their global warming rants with them, and if you are not careful they are going to drag you before the human rights commission.

Maudlin,

This would make a good horror movie if not for the fact it is already happening almost exactly as you describe it!

The number of crackhead is on the rise, (but I doubt they talk about global warming much)

The way leftists go and on about totally unproven man made global warming, you'd swear they are high on some drug.

And the HRC? well have you been asleep for the last 10 years?

Friend, leave my buddy Maudlin (Ringo) alone. It's been speculated that if a$$holes could fly, he'd be forced to live in an airport.

And people still don't believe in Sin or Evil?

Read almost authentic until the last paragraph.

Then it read like a very obvious hoax.

Social Services...the umbrella Government Agency for the demented and deraved, whose sole purpose is to make a living off the ills of society. All these guys do is put on a band-aid solution so they won't be out of a job next week.

How much time and money is worthwhile sinking into the dregs of society?

Focus on saving the kids if you can get to them soon enough.

OK MAN.. here it is. Trudeau is responsible for the badly flawed charter we now have. The Diefenbaker one was far superior.
Trudeau is responsible for the "I hate the east" sentiment in western canada.
Ontario doesn't want to be a have-not province, no sweat, I vote we don't give them a nickle.

"These people should all be wards of the state.
Liberalism is a mental disorder"...AMEN

Safe Injection Sites = State Sponsord Addiction

What if I want a safe site to drink my 26er after hours...no dice.

Illegal is either illegal or it isn't!

Egaz should be charged with providing! Either that or they should be paying the clean-up cost. The health region should be BANNED from providing needles, particularly in Qtys of 100 or more! We are subsidizing the dealers!

Hey you social workers....eat my shorts!