Welcome to the future, as imagined in a Suzuki/Gore wet-dream.

How do you like it so far?

I forgot to mention that this is also Stephane Dion's wet-dream.  And he wants to be our next Prime Minister.

I especially loved that he used the words "global warming" rather than "climate change". The fools cannot be allowed to change the game mid way through.

The game they started was 'end global warming' and now want the less specific 'climate change' as a catch all to include any kind of change whatsoever as an excuse to rip us off and gain more control over our lives and our economy.

Many of us have been onto them from the start, now maybe the sound of crushing wallets and growling stomachs will wake up a few others.

What? C'mon you deniers. you know divering food to fuel is a great plan! Just think. Soon extremely few homeless around,except in the pauper cemetaries. Meals at schools gone,saving you money that you have to pay to your kids school. All those pesky church meals gone,thus not bringing the destitute into your neighbourhood trying to survive(in this case I mean only the mentally/physically challenged,not welfare bums).
Way,way less CO2,as nobody will be driving. But then the plants won't be to happy.Ad nauseum.
Guess the genocides in Darfur,etc weren't killing of people fast enough for the greenies.
Now I must go finish getting rid of the white global warming in my garden,so that at least I can eat this summer/fall/winter. Heh

Sheesh...diverting. Not enough coffee yet.

The Globe said "We're ready for sacrifices". Well, maybe granola-munching latte-sipping pinheads in Toronto are. But not the vast majority of ordinary, non-elitist Canadians.

Who the hell gave them the authority to speak for the "people"?

I'm not ready for sacrifices. If I'm pissed off about high gas prices now, wait till that carbon tax kicks in. And I won't be the only one.

These idiots won't be happy until our economy is totally ruined.

I just emailed Lorrie Goldstein - thanked him for taking the correct stand all along.

I know that some of his colleagues have ridiculed him for not taking part in Kyoto fear-mongering - or would not debate him, just ignored him.

Lorrie is keeping old Star and Globe front pages as evidence. sda archives is also a store house of Exhibit A.

Actually, the rise in fuel prices we've seen over the last, oh, two years or so has been much higher than any carbon tax that was being realistically discussed.  Markets can bring these changes about much more quickly and efficiently than governments can.  (Whether we like the "quickness and efficiency" is a different affair, of course.)

I wonder if we'll ever see Dion or any of his sycophants rising in the House of Commons to denounce the Harper government for its "failure" to contain food and energy costs for the average Canadian.  If that does happen, it'll be the gift that keeps on giving for the PC war room in the next election, and an act of blatant hypocrisy on the part of the Liberals.

I'm really noticing the price of gas today. I just found out that a full tank, 50 litres, now costs me a whopping $60.00. And that's a small tank, as gas tanks go, being in the Chevy Cobalt... imagine the bill to fill up a Chevy Suburban...

Building more refineries will drop the price of gas and diesel by increasing the supply via increased production, but like hell the Chicken Littlists will let this happen. They'd rather have the refineries built in the MidEast, Russia, China, venezuela, than the free world, to keep prices going higher and prevent us from achieving energy independence. Not only that, they want to stop oil and gas exploration/development/extraction here as well whilst encouraging it in the Axis of Evil.

And it appears that they could care less for the price of food for the poor anywhere, blaming "scary conservatives" and so on for conspiring to make this happen, whilst refusing to accept blame for their pushing biofuel development and production which causes the hike in food prices.

How much more can we take? Not much.

Soon the People will stand up and holler:

"Enough! No more fascist nonsense! WE will decide what will be done; the case for climate change isn't made, isn't proven, so... NO WAR ON CLIMATE CHANGE! STOP AL GORE'S WAR!"

We just might end up, as The People, formerly known as the "Silent Majority", rioting in the streets, occupying government buildings, erecting blockades, stopping traffic, etc., an unprecedented change from the leftwing extremists who are usually the ones to do that...

On the other hand, we can simply vote for those who we know won't do the bidding of Al Gore and David Suzuki. This means not voting for parties on the left. This means Liberals and NDPers who hate paying so much more, and increasing daily, for energy and food and so on... must vote Conservative to stop the march towards the ruination of our country!

It's fascinating to realize that socialism, from its mildest to most extreme forms, is always, always, vindictive and filled with loathing.

Before socialism comes to power, it's rhetoric is always about 'social justice' and 'equality' and other ambiguous notions of utopia.

Once in power, socialism rapidly settles into its real nature as totalitarian. It operates as an authoritative and repressive government, with an elite set of bureaucrats who are themselves completely removed from any 'equality' with the peasants they govern.

Socialism then moves on to reducing the lifestyle and opportunities of the population. It does this by removing private enterprise from the population, focusing on tax-funded gov't owned industries that are non-competitive, and by promoting unionization - which reduces the freedom to work.

It does this by reducing and denying the legal and political rights of the population - eg, our HRCs denying the Charter.

It then moves into the emotional zone, where it imposes a sense of constant guilt and self-loathing on the population, to keep them passive and forever 'paying the tithes' for their sins.

Any notion of freedom, of hope, of an ability to 'do things' with one's life, is rapidly repressed by socialism, which cannot operate when people are free to think and dissent and 'do their own thing'.

C'mon people , savour the irony . Think how much money we can now suck out of OPEC countries for the food they need . Turn around is fair play and all . $120.00 for a barrel of oil , how about $60.00 for a loaf of bread ?

I believe the Conservatives could get a lot of brownie points with ordinary Canadians if they could help foster the building of a new refinery in Canada. Although environmentalists may be opposed, the environmentalists don't vote for Conservatives anyway. Any promise of relief from skyrocketing gas prices would be most welcome. I believe this would be a good investment in Canada.

A good read/take on the MSM RE: GW. It’s unethical of them to say otherwise.

Note: Fox had an Expert on regarding oil futures & pricing. He could not or refused to say WHO makes the decision and sets the price @ say ~$135.

That is because Futures are simple bets, up or down, between parties. I would assume speculators are not betting low (giving out Contracts) & the market is one sided.

What a playground for manipulation, any suggestion that oil is going up results in oil going up.

Brilliant!

Kate, a sarcastic cartoon suggestion.

A very well rounded Al Gore standing over a frail, starving Third World child with Suzuki and Mo Strong cheering in the back ground.

Not funny - pathetic.

Time for a recycled SDA quote:  STOP, STOP, we've run out of carbon credits!

The Canadian Sentinel argues that we should vote Conservative to stave off the leftist onslaught of nonsensical taxes and regulations. So how would he explain yesterday's blather about reducing the use of paint solvents, a move that will result in quicker degradation of our assets despite higher prices for less effective coatings - brought to you by the "Conservatives" currently at the helm in Ottawa.

Essentially, there is nobody left to vote for.

BTW Kate, can you recommend a good water-based clearcoat?

[quote]Not only that, they want to stop oil and gas exploration/development/extraction here as well whilst encouraging it in the Axis of Evil.
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That’s not happening in Sask, went to a Church Action last night and my closest Neighbor informed me that 20 new oil wells are now producing within a 1 1/2M of me. (He has 5) They are drilling like mad in SE Sask (Willison basin, ND )

BTW: I thought “Whilst” was distinctively British

As the planet enters the next routine cooling period, as the sound you hear is the hot air leaking out of the Warmongers public relations balloon, we can only sit back and wait until the "Carbon Credit Market" bubble pops and makes the sub-prime mortgage boondoggle look like a non-event and rivals tulips for a mega-stupid non-valued market event.

It's gonna be a great party.

kakola has it right, there is no one left to vote for.

It is clear that Harper has the Ottawa disease now and will do whatever it takes to retain power, just like the liberals have always done.

Harper's government has abandoned it's base and will feel the sting in the next election. Unfortunately, so will we.

I disagree with John V. Yes PMSH is having to throw crumbs to the looney left in order to stay in power but what is the alternative? Give power to a Liberal/NDP coalition??? What a disaster that would be. He has to hold on until he can get a majority, then he can rein in the liberal-appointed bureaucrats that every minister has under him.

John V:Harper's government has abandoned it's base ".

This is defeatist nonsense. The CPC is run very much by it's membership as was the Alliance and Reform Parties; unlike the NDP or Liberals. If you want to sit in your easy chair and rock your cares away and bitch that's up to you. Or you can join for a measly $10.00, get off your ass and build election signs, canvass, or go on the phones. The CPC will do the job unless the polls show they have to suck up to the left vote to stay in office.

Wow, the price of oil has skyrocketed because of global warming alarmists?

News to me.

THE UN World Food Program has singled out the drought in Australia as a major factor behind its difficulty in finding food aid for 80 million of the world's hungry.

Global warming alarmists cause drought?

News to me.

This blog seems to channel the tactics of Colin Thatcher... Deny, Deny, Deny.

Linda L., in Saint John, NB, where we already have Canada's largest oil refinery, Irving is trying to get the go-ahead for a second one.

Clearly, only the enviro-extremists are standing in the way of this...

The situation is too extreme. Our economy and jobs are at stake. The economy of Saint John and New Brunswick are at stake. And the economy of Canada.

Wish the provincial Liberals and federal Tories would move faster to make the refinery happen. It's taking too long.

The problem with gas prices is only partly due to the price of oil. A large part of the price has to do with supply and demand: As demand increases, while supply cannot increase, the price of refined petroleum products will naturally increase. So to help alleviate some of the price push from crude oil prices, we need to have more refining capacity and production.

Increasing our extraction of crude in Canada will help a lot also.

But the problem... is the enviro-lunatic fringe, and it's going to get even more loony... Al Gore's going to blow a cool 300 million on mass propaganda next...

I don't remember the '70s energy crisis, as I was just a little feller, but now I can understand... and I bet it's worse this time...

The Far Left clearly, if not necessarily knowingly, appears hellbent on the destruction of our economy so that it can bring in radical socialist/communist reforms and force our dependence on the state...

I suspect that even Al Gore knows he's selling us nothing more than snake oil, a Big Lie. Already the McGuinty Liberals of Ontario appear to realize this, as their budget paid virtually no lip service to gw/cc...

We can't afford to buy into this scam. It's no more legitimate than the pecker enlargement pill spams we all get in our emails...

'Wow, the price of oil has skyrocketed because of global warming alarmists?'~ sammy

Interesting. The price of oil is NOT mentioned in the article linked to. Not ONE person posting here has made the claim that faux global warming has Anything to do with the price of oil.

Leftists. Re-writing history even as it occurs.

'"The reality is that people are dying already," said Jacques Diouf, of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO). "Naturally people won't be sitting dying of starvation, they will react," he said.

The UN says it takes 232kg of corn to fill a 50-litre car tank with ethanol. That is enough to feed a child for a year. Last week, >b>the UN predicted "massacres" unless the biofuel policy is halted. '

Sure sounds like Australia is the total problem, eh?

'Wow, the price of oil has skyrocketed because of global warming alarmists?'~ sammy

Interesting. The price of oil is NOT mentioned in the article linked to. Not ONE person posting here has made the claim that faux global warming has Anything to do with the price of oil.

Leftists. Re-writing history even as it occurs.

'"The reality is that people are dying already," said Jacques Diouf, of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO). "Naturally people won't be sitting dying of starvation, they will react," he said.

The UN says it takes 232kg of corn to fill a 50-litre car tank with ethanol. That is enough to feed a child for a year. Last week, the UN predicted "massacres" unless the biofuel policy is halted. '

Sure sounds like Australia is the total problem, eh?

LG has balls and I love him for it.

Sammy:

The price of oil hasn't skyrocketed because of them, dope.  The skyrocketing price of oil has given us the same conditions that the Global Warming Alarmists (tm) would have given us if they'd had their way.  Thus, we now have the perfect "laboratory" conditions to show people what the world would be like all the time if we allowed the AGW crowd to determine public policy.

Welcome to Al Gore's future (just getting started, really).  Enjoy your warm fuzzies while walking to the grocery store several kilometres away and buying nothing but the now-expensive flour, pasta and rice and then shlumping them back home.  Thrill to the aching, over-worked arm muscles.  And when winter returns, feel the giddiness of self-righteousness when that same walk gives you frostbite in your extremities.

And while you're at it, learn to freakin' read, willya?

otter

Whoops! It talks about gasoline prices... silly me, I forgot that gas and oil were unrelated.

I agree that "biofuels" in their current form are a joke, but I wholeheartedly disagree that they're a major driver in the current food crisis.

By the way.... I love the fact that the U.N. is an infallible champion of truth when it comes to something that supports your view (getting rid of biofuels), but a bunch of brainwashed corrupt libtards when it comes to something like climate change.

=)

Wait for all the beer drinkers that are going to be hit. That will really make them wake up to what is going on.

Good For Lorrie, but he is just one voice. I would like to see an entire chain (like CanWest) take the stand that AGW is a scam and a lie, and promote that position with the same vigour that the Star, CBC, G&M and CTV pimp AGW.

No more riding fence or providing voice and validation to the AGW alarmists. If Mr. Asper would take a solid position against what is cleary utter nonsense, I would re-subscribe to the Post.

Samuel: But high prices for oil is something you and your brethern want to see correct? Yes or No?

Wait for all the beer drinkers that are going to be hit. That will really make them wake up to what is going on.

"(4) A special series explaining the amazing scientific advances that have been made in the study of global warming -- such as the exciting discovery of carbon offsets, so Al Gore could fly."

Like sticking a finger in your eye. Gotta love it.

bob
Samuel: But high prices for oil is something you and your brethern want to see correct? Yes or No?

Huh? Politcally, I'm a card-carrying Conservative... I'm a Petroleum Geologist by trade, so if by "brethern" you mean Geologists, sure, high oil prices mean I get to make money hand over fist.

$150 a barrel sounds nice... not so much that it will cause a frenzy for an alternative transportation fuel, but enough that most unconventional plays are quite profitable.

Think of me next time you're at the pump.

=)

I wholeheartedly disagree that they're a major driver in the current food crisis.

Damn, wholeheartedly? Well, we may as well pack up and go home, Samuel has an infallible argument in this one.

Samuel, I mean as an enviromentalist , you see high oil prices as a good thing no?

By world standards, Australia is a relatively small producer of grain, with the major cereals, wheat and barley each accounting for around 3% of annual world production.

The United States grew 42 percent of the world's corn in during fiscal year 2006, producing 282.3 million metric tons (11.1 billion bushels). US Grains Council

Grain market prices can double with as little as 5% change in supply. Considering that at least 25% of the US corn crop was used taken for biofuel, ya think that might account for more of the food shortages than a drought reduced Aussie crop.

Even if the Ussie crop was completely wiped out, it is a drop in the bucket compared to US corn. But no, the loons parrot the Warm Mongers line.

"Higher fuel costs, with crude soaring above US$100 a barrel and threatening to stay that way, have partly been blamed for making fertilizer more expensive, raising the cost of growing rice as well as increasing transport costs. In Southeast Asia, disease, pests and a 45-day unprecedented cold snap from China down all the way to Vietnam in January and February that hurt harvests has also been blamed. Flooding in the Philippines and Vietnam has also contributed to the growing crisis."

http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1127&Itemid=32

Goldstein had me laughing for a good 10 minutes!
Well ... twenty seconds of laughter followed by nine minutes and forty seconds of subdued chuckles.....

Mary T ... you have a problem with BEER drinkers?

Absolutely, we have our own oil and building more refineries will be an absolute necessity for our economic survival. Gotta happen. Surely the Harper government will get on with it. It's a winner.

'Whoops! It talks about gasoline prices... silly me, I forgot that gas and oil were unrelated.'~ sammy

No wonder we're only paying Half what the rest of the world pays per gallon- and which they've been paying for Years before prices began skyrocketing. I'm surprised I didn't see that before. btw, sammy, even a broken clock like the UN is correct every so often. Or should I say Gets corrected, since the UN libtards were a major driving force behind biofuels in the first place.

I think it's GREAT! I had no idea that socialists had perfected terraforming! Off to Mars with them!

bob

I didn't know that I was an 'environmentalist'. Thanks I guess.

The problem with high prices as they relate to the environment is that in our current oil situation, high prices drive unconventional production. Generally speaking, unconventional production requires a lot more energy expended per barrel of oil. (It's much easier to produce a barrel from a well than it is to process a dumptruck full of bituminous sand)

So, I suspect that the positive environmental effect of fewer people consuming is probably outweighed by the negative effect of the extra energy consumed for unconventional petroleum development.

So any 'environmentalist' that tried to sell you on boosted gas prices would be shooting themselves in the foot.

I don't know this for sure -- I'm just speculating -- but it would probably be an interesting study and if it went the way I think it would, you guys could go throw in some ill-informed "environmentalist"'s face.

I love the fact that the U.N. is an infallible champion of truth when it comes to something that supports your view (getting rid of biofuels), but a bunch of brainwashed corrupt libtards when it comes to something like climate change.

You honestly don't see the difference between the two?

"This blog seems to channel the tactics of Colin Thatcher... Deny, Deny, Deny."

Colin Thatcher? Your thinking about this crisis seems to be from the same time frame as your cultural references.

So any 'environmentalist' that tried to sell you on boosted gas prices would be shooting themselves in the foot.

Samuel, that's explains why they're still begging fore more taxes on fuel. Those extra costs don't get passed on to the producers.

(But they do get passed on to people who happen to like eating! Hooray!)

"Wow, the price of oil has skyrocketed because of global warming alarmists?

News to me."

Well, it's not news to me. Back in the days when dinosaurs roamed the land, that's the late 60's for all you hippies, a group of suzikists began telling the CBC and all who would listen that we would run out of oil by 1982. That should have been a clue, being just 2 years short of 1984 but we all bought it. Now the Fox, er I mean the Saudis, listening beside a hole in the barnyard fence, herd the commotion among the animals... Sorry; I'm getting off on the wrong story. The Saudis must have realized that they were selling a valuable commodity, a commodity the world was running out of, for around $2.25 a barrel and realized the error of their ways. By the early to mid 70's you could buy a 2 or 3 year old muscle car in Seattle for about 1/3 the going price. Oil eventually went up to around $30 a barrel for a short time. Speed limits were reduced to 55 mph to try to save on gas. I remember driving down a commercial avenue in Portland and all the strip mall shops were boarded up for miles.
Now for the real story:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vnp4kj5lLOU

Speaking of gas prices, I noticed the other day that gas prices in Saudi Arabia (oil producing nation) are in the area of 20 cents per litre. In Venezuela (oil producing nation) it is similar. In Canada (oil producing nation) it is $1.30 a litre.

Why is that?

[quote]Playing news is primarily the realm of the day trader. The basic strategy is to buy a stock which has just announced good news, or short sell on bad news. Such events provide enormous volatility in a stock and therefore the greatest chance for quick profits (or losses). Determining whether news is "good" or "bad" must be determined by the price action of the stock, because the market reaction may not match the tone of the news itself. The most common cause for this is when rumors or estimates of the event (like those issued by market and industry analysts) were already circulated before the official release, and prices have already moved in anticipation--the news is already priced in the stock.[/quote] google

Samuel,
Google "day trading" and then tell me that the media has not played an unethical role in the increase of Oil/Gas prices.

It may surprise you to find that Security violations, by the media, may result in prison &/or been named in a Class action.

The Media, when they project an increase in price, are manipulating the Market. That would seem to be the intent of Global Warming

If they have provided advance information to day traders, they have committed a crime.

If the individual, or some one close, has a portfolio that has benefited (like carbon credits), they have committed a crime.

I do have series 7 & 63 training and remember enough to spot problems. The media impact is not trivial.

Aviator and Gunny (are you guys in the air force?)

Well,

Where is Harper on the CHRC mess?

Where is is he on the gun registry? He presently backing some new legislation that will further take away our privacy with more ability for the authorities to break down our doors. I don't have those details handy, but it's certainly not in the best interest of freedom.

Where was he on the cancellation of the income trusts?

Where is he on this idiotic global warming rip off? Where he could reduce or cancel some of the onerous taxation on energy an give Canadians a break on the skyrocketing cost of energy and food.

Why did he increase the funding for the Status of Women to the highest level ever?

He has the control of Parliament right now that is no different than if he had a majority. The Liberals don't want an election and will go along with whatever he wants to do.

Does anyone know about anything he wants to do since he reduced the GST. I don't hear anything coming out of Ottawa that we can look forward to. It's now reach the point of maintain the status quo. Meanwhile the Liberals are going up in the pols.

There is something about having power that makes leaders forget why they sought it in the first place. The game then becomes keeping it at all costs. So far, I see him becoming less and less willing to ruffle leftist feathers. What is his current agenda ... Anyone?

Bush folded on many of his plans IE the reform of the government pension plan to appease his left and they still hated him beyond human possibility.

WE see it big time here in BC where we will soon have a 7 cents a liter 'green' tax of gas added to enormous increases already upon us. Soon to follow will be a big hit on non carbon producing hydro electric power. Premier Campbell came in ready to take everything from unions to Indians and he folded on all counts. Now he is sucking up to everyone with a cause and has gone greener than Kermit.

I don't see anything in the way of leadership from any government in this country. After a brief time they just start piling up the bullshit and then tiptoe around it in the hopes that it won't fall over.

I agree that a Liberal win would be worse, but then the CPC are starting to look like Liberals in slow-mo. I don't believe Harper will get a majority. He will get another minority and then Bob Rae or Iggy will replace the wimp and then they will win the election after that.

I don't think there are enough conservatives in Canada to elect a CPC majority. The only hope is that they may win enough in Quebec to put them over the top. They had to promise them "Sovereignty Association" to get as far as they already have with Quebec. I don't have a problem with Quebec getting more autonomy, but no one can appease them enough to get their long term support. That might only serve to reduce the flow of grease to their squeaking wheels. They will have none of that.

This country needs to break up into three regions. West, East and Quebec. Then we may get some sanity in government.

DAVID SUZUKI,AL GORE,MUARICE STRONG,JAMES LOVELOCK and other eco-freaks who are so bent out of shape by this global warming poppycock bull kaka they have gone crazy and nutty

Late to the party here, but I'd just like to say that high gas prices based on the actual cost of a barrel of oil are bad. That means some CAPITALIST is getting the money.

High gas prices are only good if the government gets the money. Taxes good, capitalism bad.

In regard to food prices, have none of you "its not the oil price!" people never heard of the futures market?

To those who insist we declare war on global warming, all I can say is: give peace a chance.

Peter: Re gas prices, it's bread, circuses & subsidies:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jan/18/oil.venezuela

John V; you didn't watch the video, did you?
The Message:
1. Pick someone stupid to do your dirty work.
2. Undermine their leader.
3. Make the stupid think they are the leaders.
4. Stampede the masses.
(The comic was made in 1943; very significant.)
Harper can't do anything about your list except look silly. They will hold anything up in Senate/Committee/etc: as they did with the crime bill (and then complain he is not keeping his promises). The only strategy left is to placate marginal voters who know the earth is round, but have suffered 30 odd years of "Conservative=evil" McCarthyism by the MSM.
Why don't you join the Party where you will have a voice? Or are you just a Liberal trying to undermine CPC support?

Samuel;
Drought in Australia? Tell these people that.
http://www.ema.gov.au/ema/emadisasters.nsf/83edbd0553620d8cca256d09001fc8fd/3e188b3746519191ca257425001ef790?OpenDocument

http://www.truveo.com/Mackay-Floods-2008/id/1441935463

And, No, this isn't just a one time occurence. Many floods have been reported in Australia over the past few years especially in the June monsoon season.

Here is a link to a national newspaper in the country.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/climate/
Best read what the inhabitants have to say before you trumpet the UN dictum.

Gunney99
Ya got'im with a right hook

Gunny,

You can stop tossing out "are you a Liberal" You sound like a liberal when you ask that question. It is a trait of the left that you cannot question your own.

If I was a Liberal I would be reading Kinsella or Dr Dawg and bobbing my head like one of the back window doggies.

I will not join any collective, even a Conservative one. I will only vote for a right leaning party or I will not vote at all. I voted for the CPC in the last election, but if I see the continued move to the middle left by Harper I may just stay home on election day. That is my prerogative is it not.

If the CPC does what Mulrony did in giving the GST for example, then it won't make much difference who is in power will it?

There is much wrong with Canada and it needs to be addressed. We cannot wait for fifty more years to start on the road back to a nation of self-reliant people. The socialist welfare state and big government along with freedom inhibiting laws must be dismantled sooner rather than later.

We have had forty years of Trudeaupia and I am out of patience with this loser philosophy. We need leadership with balls and purpose. Again I ask you, what has Harper presently got on his agenda to move forward with? Sitting around Ottawa waiting for the Liberals to gain momentum due to Conservative lethargy is not on.

Even Liberals like a strong leader. Harper is lying in a hammock at this point. He would do better change the subject from putting fires lit by his political enemies and moving forward a quality conservative agenda.

Joining the collective and reading their mail outs for more money is a waste of time.

John V writes, "Harper is lying in a hammock at this point."

I'll say I'm not pleased with the utter silence on the HRC issue, but saying he's lazing around is ridiculous. PMSH has accomplished more than most minority governments, including holding on to power as long as his government has.

The alternative to a Conservative government is unthinkable--well, not really, but I don't want to spoil my evening. If one's conservative, not voting for the Conservatives is, IMO, cutting off one's nose to spite one's face: not a very smart or productive idea.

Kudos to Lorrie Goldstein for sticking to his guns on the Kyoto issue over the years.

Only he and Lorne Gunter have any credibility in MSM insofar as Kyoto and carbon credit hysteria of the left has been propagandized.

Sanity rules in the "global warming / Kyoto protocol" debate in the Sun media and of course on Kate McMillan's SDA website.

John V.

Me Air Force? Was.

Re: PMSH - I don't agree with everything he does, so I joined the CPC to get my voice heard. The fact that he is an economist (and not yet another lawyer) gets my support. I did join the BCLibs only because they were the only centre-right party and we had to keep the NDP from getting back in. So, the same approach with Campbell in BC as PMSH in Ottawa, but Campbell has gone seriously off the rails. I've written two very explicit missles to him outlining the fact that he is the premier, not David Suzuki!

Could somebody call Bill O'Reilly and ask him what the original topic was? Also can he get a picture of Harper in a hammock?

P.S.Ask him if lions get their reward by lying in hammocks or lying in wait?

from New Scientist #2624 October 6 – 12 2007 pg 5
(look for the words mendacious, cynical, and blatantly misrepresented)

climate change skeptics are clutching at straws, and that's bad for everyone.

we need climate change skeptics. Not because they are right – at least not on the big issue of human culpability in recent warming – but because they ask hard questions that lead to deeper knowledge. What we do not need from them is misrepresentation and cynical trashing of scientists' work.
Take the latest claims attributed to Fred Singer, arch-exponent of the idea that solar cycles explain everything about climate change, and economist Dennis Avery from the Hudson Institute, a think tank in Washington DC. They made headlines with their list of 500 scientists who they say have refuted "at least one element of current man-made global warming scares". The list says Avery "makes a mockery of recent claims that a scientific consensus blames humans as the primary cause of global temperature increase since 1850".
There is sleight of hand in here, and the words "at least one element" and "since 1850" leave plenty of wriggle room. Sadly, some members of the press have chosen to interpret the release as saying that 500 scientists are "doubtful" that present global warming is down to human activity.
Now some of the 500 are demanding that their names be removed from the list. Leading the field is Joanna Haigh of Imperial College London, an investigator of possible solar influences on climate via cosmic rays, She says: "I believe that changes in the sun influence climate, but I have never claimed that solar forcing is responsible for recent global warming. It is mendacious of them to include me in a list of those refuting human activity as the major cause." Another on the list, climatologist Michael Mann of Penn State University , adds: "This is a dishonest and cynical misrepresentation of my findings and views, and those of many of my colleagues."
Singer responded with a note saying: "I was not involved in this exercise – or consulted." Avery explained his interpretations, helpfully telling Haigh: "I carefully avoided saying that you agree with our interpretations."

and so forth. (thats where the "blatantly misrepresented" comes in)

word trickery, spin spin spin, denials by those scooped up in the infamous 'list', why is this not included in the right wing citations of this group of 500? why is that?

If you haven't all ready seen this interview with the founder of the weather channel in the USA ..

HERE it is and it's good.

If you haven't all ready seen this interview with the founder of the weather channel in the USA ..

HERE it is and it's good.

Sorry for the double I got caught in the Forest Gump thingy and thought the first one was rejected.

It happens.

jesussavesthepure

Interesting, but hardly surprising.

John V
speaking of the "Forest Gump" thing, can someone please tell Kate that it she's missing an "R" in "Forrest"?

(bugs me every time)

"Why did he increase the funding for the Status of Women to the highest level ever?"

My understanding is that the govt cut their funds but a committee made up of mps and dominated by the abortionists restored the funding. The govt didn't have any choice.

Thanks John V, great interview, seems to recapitulate the positions I've arrived a through my own investigations. He, of course, has (or should have) far more authority than I.

I too am somewhat frustrated by the slow pace at which the present Federal government is proceeding with some more sensible legislation. However we must stay the course and support the CPC. At present it's the only credible entity to get us out of the mess all these years of Liberal ineptitude have wrought. Imagine trying to run fast with a 50kg weight chained to your ankle.

Harper has fewer than 1/2 the seats in the house of commons, the senate is by far mostly liberals, the bureaucracy of government is still loaded with people who will do all in their power to slow anything the CPC wants done, and most of the media are left leaning.

Seems to me that in comparison the guy with 50 kg weight chained to his ankle has almost no handicap at all in a 100 metre dash.

Hang in there gang, this is not the time to wimp out.

"Hang in there gang, this is not the time to wimp out."
Thanks loads Len. You will never get the Government we want by bitching, moaning and abandoning the only possibility of right decisions. For myself, I like the tremendous reduction in insanity in Ottawa. Can you imagine the alternative? Every moonbat lobbyist having direct government influence? Wendy Cukier in the PMO?
That is exactly what is wrong with Campbell out here in the Left Coast. He is going with the Global Greens because the polls are telling him that the new generation of voters are thoroughly propagandized. Putting the alternative back in Victoria is unthinkable.
Can you imagine 38 years of Liberal appointments in the civil service with complete freedom to extract revenge on us conservative voters? A ten+ year battle to get pennies out of the DVA? I could go on and on but....

We are the reason the oil companies won't build new refineries. The special interest groups have pressured governments for subsidies to development alternative fuels. Since a new refinery takes billions of dollars and many many years to build it could quickly be mothballed if the new energy sources prove financially feasible.

What we have to do - and no one is taking about it - is to increase or electrical generation capacity. Remember the blackout in 2004? That happened because the system was running at almost 100% capacity. With all the new homes being built the past 5 years you have to ask "where is the new capacity coming from?" Ontario isn't building any new ones and wind farms only work under ideal conditions. Maybe we should start putting turbines in the middle of rivers and harness the rivers' flow.

Someone who works in the industry of marketing grain recently posted here explaining how recent poor winter wheat crops have affected grain pricing.

Samuel points out drought conditions in Australia. “FAO forecasts dismal rice production for Australia, reflecting extremely low water availability.”

I have posted on hording by governments. Limiting supply brings higher prices. “The traditional rice exporting countries of China, India, Egypt, Vietnam and Cambodia, have either imposed minimum export prices, export taxes or export quotas or bans. Such moves are expected to reduce rice exported from these countries”

In other countries like India, the mass manipulation of farming by corporate interests has forced many farmers into such dire straights that thousands have committed suicide.

In Vietnam where the government controls seed and fertilizers for planting rice crops, the materials to plant have been held back in some areas so long that many are worried they will not be able to get a crop in.

Then there is this; A reduced crop is also expected in the United States, mainly as a result of a cut in area caused by mounting competition from more profitable crops. Sounds a lot like CAPITALISM to me.

Yet even with all of this, “Rice production is projected to be up for 2008 by 12 million metric tons or 1.8 percent”. It’s not land used for bio fuel that’s the problem, it’s demand. “The international rice market is currently facing a particularly difficult situation with demand outstripping supply and substantial price increases,”

http://deltafarmpress.com/rice/world-production-0404/

I know that in our province and our neighboring province there are literally tens of thousands of acres of land that used to be farmed but now lies dormant because there hasn't been any money in farming for over 30 years. Except maybe Dairy and that’s now undergoing big changes. As it is now, if you aren't milking 200 cows, you are not keeping pace.

And again I say that the reduction in refining capacity did not start in the era of bio fuels and alternative energy initiatives. It started 2 decades ago, and it has more to do with maximizing profit than anything else.

Recently I read that due to the increased price of wheat, many Afghans will be planting wheat this year instead of Poppies.

Is the cull on? I don't know, but it sure as heck looks like the fix is on.

Hugger

Fiumara,

This river energy you speak of is interesting but unfortunately not yet feasible. Some effort has been made in the East River (NYC) but that's due to the tides more than the rivers.

What you're interested in is Run-of-River hydropower. Check out cloudworksenergy.com or plutonic.ca (Publicly traded!) to see what these guys are doing. Essentially they divert half a mountain creek or river into a pipe and use gravity and flow to drive turbines.

Unfortunately though, even power like this is not entirely reliable. If there is less snow or rain than expected they have to shut off the diversion of water so they don't starve the creeks. Also the BC Hydro union is against this green power tech.

Check it out.