And not intelligence.
Posted by Kate at April 16, 2008 10:25 PMBoy a true bunch of bright ones. Must have been a demonstration at a place of higher learning.
Posted by: Ed the Hun at April 16, 2008 11:09 PMMy erstwhile favourite protest sign -- "Freedom of Speech - Go to Hell" -- has just been replaced!
Posted by: Joan Tintor at April 16, 2008 11:14 PMIt makes you rethink that eugenics thing, no?
Posted by: Kate at April 16, 2008 11:17 PMThose who do not study history are doomed to look stupid.
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 16, 2008 11:21 PMJesse Owens where are you?
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Someone knowing the facts couldn't have written something more ridiculous if they tried.
Posted by: Gus at April 16, 2008 11:36 PMI wonder what that circle-slash icon about 2/3 of the
way down and 4/5 of the way across the image is about.
Vit. That's the sign signifying "You can't get there from here."
The answer to the query posed in the protest sign is far too obvious to deserve comment. My first inclination is to credit irony, the second sarcasm. Then again maybe said sign writer is stuck on stupid.
Posted by: Sober2ndThought at April 16, 2008 11:49 PMBoycotting the olympics would punish the athletes which would be unfair to them, when it is the Olympic committee or whatever it is called who gave the olympics to China that should be punished ( yes I know; but how? ) because it knew what kind of country China is.
This big mess is all because the people at the olympic committee either are really stupid or accepted a bribe from China...or both.
Posted by: Friend of USA at April 16, 2008 11:49 PMi think it means 'no clubbing baby seals past this point."
Posted by: john begley at April 16, 2008 11:50 PMVit, work with me, the Pope is in the US.
A pitchfork with the universal red circle and slash through it.
Translation:
No Red devils allowed.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at April 16, 2008 11:51 PMVery droll, chaps, yet it remains the case that I'm actually curious as to its iconography. Whatever it's supposed to be, though, the background is horribly centered relative to the foreground, and the line weights are all wrong. No sense of the graphic arts at all.
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 16, 2008 11:59 PMVit, assuming you're not being facetious, I believe the sign means no left turns or U-turns.
Posted by: JDN at April 17, 2008 12:27 AMWere they born that stupid or did they have to study?
Posted by: Joe at April 17, 2008 12:29 AMLooks like a place of higher learning which only goes to show: People are not born this stupid, they have to study.
Posted by: Joe at April 17, 2008 12:32 AMI'm most definately not being facetious, JDN. I thought about the traffic signal explanation, but I looked at it under six times magnification, and there's no way I can see that as standard-issue traffic control signage. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, it's not on a standard-issue pylon ~ indeed, it looks like someone is holding it up.
No conspiracy thingy, I'm just genuinely curious, and I'm trying to distract myself from blowing my top and unleashing a string of expletives upon those who would suggest that this street scene must be an institution of higher learning, completely oblivious to fact that it is institutions of higher learning that make possible the very device via which they are deploying their inanities.
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 17, 2008 12:39 AM"Would we have allowed..."
Well yes - twice(!) in fact.
How soon we forget the "racial superiority contest"(sarc) in the Bavarian snow (February, 1936).
Posted by: jwkozak91 at April 17, 2008 12:46 AMLooking at the Garmisch-Partenkirchen Winter Games' Wikipedia entry, it seems that "Military Patrol" (winter hiking?) was a "demonstration sport"!?
All the better to cross the Carpathians, Italian Alps, various Balkan ranges, and the Norwegian fjords - eh, Herr Rupprecht[kidding ;-o]?
Posted by: jwkozak91 at April 17, 2008 12:55 AMThe re-writers of history are up to 1936 then ... I think the "climate scientists" have already planted their flags ... probably not much conflict, if there is, they can re-write or change the models in the future.
I guess the PC answer to "Have we allowed Nazi Germany to host the Olympics?" is no f*kn way.
I guess I can forget the same leftard thinking that gave Germany the Olympics in '36 gave it to Russia in '80 and China in '08 ... any bets on problems with the Russia winters again in 2014?
Changing the world - one leftard protest against one leftard decision at a time.
Posted by: ural at April 17, 2008 1:05 AMI saw a Newt Gingrinch clip the other day. I agree with his observation: sure let the athletes go to the games but no need for top level political leaders to go and give their blessings to that regime. I'm not a big "engagement" fan. The engagee usually interprets it as weakness in the engager. Marriage excepted, of course. Oh wait, not necessarily eh?
Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at April 17, 2008 1:14 AMHere, compare the iconography in question to the standard-issue Do Not Enter signage to its immediate left. The Do Not Enter does have a backing pylon, the one the tri-colour traffic signal is mounted on. But the iconography in question is significantly spatially isolated from that infrastructure, yet overlapping in a way that the traffic-control department wouldn't deploy; it doesn't parse. I don't think the iconography in question is part of the standard signage. I remain curious as to its intended interpretation.
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 17, 2008 1:16 AMNow that you are aware of Alex Jones, lets see who wears the pointy tin foil hats or not. A little Pope history lesson.
Our Lady of Fatima is the title given to the Blessed Virgin Mary by those who believe that she appeared to three shepherd children at Fátima, Portugal on the 13th day of six consecutive months in 1917, starting on 13 May, the Fatima holiday. The title of Our Lady of the Rosary is also used in reference to the same apparition; the children related that the apparition specifically identified herself as "the Lady of the Rosary."On August 13, 1917, the provincial administrator and anticlerical Freemason, Artur Santos (no relation), believing that the events were politically disruptive, intercepted and jailed the children before they could reach the Cova da Iria that day. The administrator interated the children and unsuccessfully attempted to get them to divulge the content of the secrets.
According to Lúcia's account, the lady confided to the children three secrets, known as the Three Secrets of Fatima.
To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace.
In 1947, Sister Lúcia left the Dorothean order and joined the Carmelite order in a convent in Coimbra, Portugal. Lúcia died on February 13, 2005, at the age of 97. After her death, the Vatican, specifically Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (at that time, still head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) ordered her cell sealed off. It is believed this was because Sister Lúcia had continued to receive more revelations, and the evidence needed to be examined in the course of proceedings for Lúcia's canonization.
Francisco and Jacinta were declared venerable by Pope John Paul II in a public ceremony at Fatima on May 13, 1989. John Paul returned there on May 13, 2000, to declare them 'blessed' (a title of veneration below that of sainthood; see Canonization). Jacinta is the youngest non-martyred child ever to be beatified.
On 13 May 1981 John Paul II was shot and critically wounded by Mehmet Ali Ağca, a Turkish gunman, as he entered St. Peter's Square to address an audience.Another assassination attempt took place on 12 May 1982, just a day before the anniversary of the last attempt on his life, in Fatima, Portugal when a man tried to stab John Paul II with a bayonet, but was stopped by security guards.
The decision was announced on May 13, 2005, the Feast of Our Lady of Fatima and the 24th anniversary of the assassination attempt on John Paul II at St. Peter's Square. John Paul II often credited Our Lady of Fatima for preserving him on that day. Cardinal Ruini inaugurated the diocesan phase of the cause for beatification in the Lateran Basilica on 28 June 2005.
The pope, who began his papacy when the Soviets controlled his native country of Poland, as well as the rest of Eastern Europe, was a harsh critic of communism, and supported the Polish Solidarity movement. Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev once said the collapse of the Iron Curtain would have been impossible without John Paul II. Note the common thread of the 13th.
During his papacy, Benedict XVI has emphasized what he sees as a need for Europe to return to fundamental Christian values in response to increasing de-Christianisation and secularisation in many developed countries.
The most famous and best known prophecies about the popes are those attributed to St. Malachy. In 1139 he went to Rome to give an account of the affairs of his diocese to the pope, Innocent II.While at Rome, he received (according to the Abbé Cucherat) the strange vision of the future wherein was unfolded before his mind the long list of illustrious pontiffs who were to rule the Church until the end of time. The same author tells us that St. Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II to console him in the midst of his tribulations, and that the document remained unknown in the Roman Archives until its discovery in 1590.
According to the prophecy, the next Pope will be the second last Pope Gloria Olivae ("Glory of the Olives") (Benedictine Order). The last and next will be Peter of Rome.
The first shall be last and the last shall be first.
A little history for the Popes visit to the U.S.A..
Posted by: What did Edgar say at April 17, 2008 1:39 AMOy vey.
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 17, 2008 1:44 AMI've never seen a sign like that for traffic either, but my guess would be that the north/south traffic is separated by some sort of divider and there is a one way street at the intersection. The sign indicates that you can't make a left turn or pull a u-turn either.
Pat
Posted by: Pat at April 17, 2008 1:48 AMVit, I believe there's a "move to the right of the divider" sign right underneath the sign - I'm tending toward the standard traffic sign explanation. Left turns and U-turns are, after all, often restricted together.
Posted by: Eugene at April 17, 2008 1:53 AMReminds me of Penn and Teller getting people to sign a petition calling for the ban of dihydrogen oxide.
Posted by: Trent at April 17, 2008 1:55 AMChina, a rigid group of appointed family members has led to a narrow minded error prone governance.
The communism experiment that failed.
Dictates instead of debate, negotiation and some reasonable allowance and compromise.
Like the liberals, that*s what you get when you appoint family, friends, tag-alongs, instead of the fully qualified.
A senior society like China should understand the value of diplomacy. = TG
Posted by: TG at April 17, 2008 2:04 AMI don't think it's a traffic sign. I've already explained some context reasons, but look again at the graphic arts. Here are some standard-issue turn prohibitions, and notice that the layout and line weights aren't even in the neighbourhood: tinyurl.com/58xkzd ~ it's not just interpreting the logic, it's also testing the thesis against the relevant production values.
I think it's some sort of logo for some sort of cause, and I'm curious as to what that is.
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 17, 2008 2:04 AMSeems to me Vit, that all the traffic signs put together suggest as has been mentioned here already. No left turn no U turn... the sign below it looks to be a straight ahead arrow, add the "No enter" sign to the left and it just makes sense...
Posted by: Tim at April 17, 2008 2:06 AMVit, is there the remote possibility that the protest photographed could have taken place in Europe? That could explain why the sign in question doesn't meet with current (North American) DOT specs...
Posted by: Richard Evans at April 17, 2008 2:12 AMEurope or not, we have a reference point in the Do Not Enter sign, which is normal. And another thing. If the iconography under question says not left and no U, and the sign behind says Do Not Enter, why doesn't it just show a standard Right Turn Only, which, in combination with the Do Not Enter, would, I suggest, be normative signage.
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 17, 2008 2:18 AMEurope or not, we have a reference point in the Do Not Enter sign, which is normal. And another thing. If the iconography under question says not left and no U, and the sign behind says Do Not Enter, why doesn't it just show a standard Right Turn Only, which, in combination with the Do Not Enter, would, I suggest, be normative signage.
Dude, go to bed... Sometimes in life your only option is to make a right turn. Even in Europe...
Posted by: Richard Evans at April 17, 2008 2:21 AM...even if there isn't a street sign telling you to do so...
Posted by: Richard Evans at April 17, 2008 2:31 AMAs the main protests were in London and Paris and those signs appear to be on the left side I would assume it is the UK.
Posted by: Pissedoff at April 17, 2008 2:45 AMIf that was where the torch relay was going they could also just be temporary signs, so would not be mounted the same as permanent ones.
Posted by: Pissedoff at April 17, 2008 2:49 AMAnd the utter stupidity of the protest sign is shown in the fact that about half the comments are about a posible traffic, that is holding more interest. I guess after you stop laughing at the fool with the sign you gotta exercise the brain cells somewhere!
Posted by: AtlanticJim at April 17, 2008 5:11 AMI heard an interview with one of the top IOC people recently, and he said they approved China's bid because they thought it would give them incentive to work toward improving human rights and they had best bid. And he reiterated, "and they had the best bid".
As the guy made best efforts not to look too foolish, it seemed as if what he really wanted to say was, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Oye!
Hugger
Posted by: Greg at April 17, 2008 6:43 AM"As the main protests were in London and Paris and those signs appear to be on the left side I would assume it is the UK."
The ignorance of history points towards the US. Probably San Francisco.
I dont find this nearly half as ironic as the pro-China rallies in Ottawa. Somebody should go and ask them how they think they should have a right to do so, when the people they support are denying the same right to others.
Put 'em on boats and send 'em back to China if they re so damn in love with the Chinese ideal. All of 'em. And I dont think that would violate their rights any more than the rights violated by the government they re supporting.
Posted by: row row row your boat at April 17, 2008 7:17 AMSmart as a whip, those protesters...
Posted by: JJM at April 17, 2008 7:39 AMOn the positive side, the spelling and grammar are impeccable.
Posted by: Richard Ball at April 17, 2008 8:34 AMLooks like the U. California - Berkeley, protesting military recruiting again?
Posted by: John Boy at April 17, 2008 9:08 AMBerkeley looks like the best guess, Palm trees, english signs, some kind of greeny flag and a sign that can best be described as" no erectile dysfuntion allowed."
Posted by: cal2 at April 17, 2008 9:24 AMPretty sure thats a palm tree.
So probably not the UK.
We're sure this hasn't been photoshopped by the HRC , cause this enters into the realm of gubmint-stupid
Posted by: richfisher at April 17, 2008 9:33 AMFolks, I really don't think they have palm trees in Paris or London. Certainly, this is from the States, most likely California (I didn't bother checking closely through the other links).
Vitruvius, undoubtedly, the local authority just created a combined sign to illustrate no left-turns and no u-turns, likely in response to repeated violations. And I can see what looks like a post top sticking above the signboard...and there is another signboard below that looks as though it identifies the permitted traffic movement (straight ahead).
Posted by: Eeyore at April 17, 2008 9:53 AMIm not planing to watch the olympics its going to be the usial amount of one sidedness and as far as im concerned THEY CAN DROP THEIR STUPID TOURCH IN A RIVER AND DOUSE IT
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at April 17, 2008 9:59 AMMy vote goes to Berkley. The guy in the lower right corner has an A's hat on.
And seeing as how it is probably Berkley, then the owner of the sign is most likely serious and not trying to get an ironic point across. Irony, after all, being totally lost on the left.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at April 17, 2008 10:41 AMYou're all wrong. It's a sign prohibiting anorexic people from falling on their heads on the hi-way. Sheesh...
Posted by: Orlin at April 17, 2008 1:35 PMGo to Google maps, query San Francisco. Find the intersection of Mission Street and The Embarcadero. Click street view, and look around.
Posted by: Don Baggs at April 17, 2008 1:40 PMAs an aside, as a child growing up, i was always under the impression (whenever i talked to acquaintances about 'Hitlers Olympics') that Jesse Owens and the world really 'showed' them when it came to showcasing the Germans athletic and racial superiority.
I was quite surprised when i went and looked at the medal count from the Berlin olympics..The Germans had 89 medals (33g, 26s, 30 b), the next best is the U.S.(24G,20S,12B) for 56..from a country with a base to draw from 4 times the size of Germany..there is no other world power of the day that even comes close, notably Great Britain and France, both with under 20 medals total..
Not to belabour the point, but Hitler did prove that his systems could produce superior athletes, given unlimited resources and opportunity.
That is exactly the point isn't it?
To prove one's system is superior to the others?
This is exactly what we will be doing for China.Giving them a world stage that will in their minds justify and reward them for their atrocious behaviour.They too will have unlimited resources and idealogical support.
Watch these games..it will be a pressure point either way..win massively and China will start to rock the boat internationally, lose face, and lose badly, internal disputes will turn ugly..
Posted by: Kursk at April 17, 2008 1:44 PM
Then in the 1930s the U.S. pharmaceutical company Smith, Kline & French (now GlaxoSmithKline) started marketing it as Benzedrine. Officially it was sold as a medical treatment for narcolepsy. Unofficially it was one of the first drugs being pushed as a performance enhancer. German athletes in the 1936 Olympics were given amphetamine injections, as was Adolph Hitler.
“In the 1936 Olympic Games films, Hitler can be seen moving his hands back and forth on his upper legs in a way that’s consistent with the ‘stereotypical behavior,’ of heavy amphetamine use,” says a report on “Meth in the military.” (www.allpositiveoptions.com)
Source: http://tinyurl.com/3vwd5c
I am not sure how true this is but food for thought, Kursk.
Posted by: Jan at April 17, 2008 2:36 PMThe picture seems surreal (I noticed the palm trees): like a dream or a few pictures superimposed. From what I know of Berkley, surreal would be a pretty good description, I think.
Posted by: lookout at April 17, 2008 4:27 PMRe the traffic sign:
http://www.trafficsignstore.com/R3-18.jpg
Posted by: Nemo2 at April 17, 2008 5:15 PMThe boxing programme of the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, China will be held at the Workers' Indoor Arena.
Look for a power outage if their golden boys are getting knocked around or even worse,
unfair judges rulings a la South Korea and Roy Jones
"Seoul, 1988: Bedlam broke out in Seoul when the host nation's bantamweight Byun Jong-Il lost a disputed preliminary bout. The boxer's coach and assistant, joined by a group of rabid fans, rushed into the ring and roughed up referee Keith Walker of New Zealand, who had penalized Byun two points for butting. When the chaos subsided, Byun stages a 67-minute sit-down protest, eclipsing the unofficial Olympic record set by countryman Choh Dong-Kih in 1964 (Choh had remained in the ring for 51 minutes after being disqualified from a bout in Tokyo). In the aftermath of Byun's stunt, South Korean Olympic Committee President Kim Chong-Ha resigned, accepting full responsibility. Byun went on to fight professionally and in 1993 won the WBC bantamweight title.
Seoul, 1988: The light middleweight gold-medal bout was dominated by American Roy Jones, who landed punches against South Korea's Park Si-Hun almost at will. However, while Soviet and Hungarian judges gave Jones a lopsided victory, the three other judges awarded Park a slight edge, making him a 3-2 winner. Park reportedly congratulated Jones after the bout and admitted the decision was wrong. Jones, who went on to be a multi-class professional champion, took silver despite winning the Val Barker Cup, given to the outstanding boxer of the Olympic tournament.
The boxing programme of the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, China will be held at the Workers' Indoor Arena.
Look for a power outage if their golden boys are getting knocked around or even worse,
unfair judges rulings a la South Korea and Roy Jones
"Seoul, 1988: Bedlam broke out in Seoul when the host nation's bantamweight Byun Jong-Il lost a disputed preliminary bout. The boxer's coach and assistant, joined by a group of rabid fans, rushed into the ring and roughed up referee Keith Walker of New Zealand, who had penalized Byun two points for butting. When the chaos subsided, Byun stages a 67-minute sit-down protest, eclipsing the unofficial Olympic record set by countryman Choh Dong-Kih in 1964 (Choh had remained in the ring for 51 minutes after being disqualified from a bout in Tokyo). In the aftermath of Byun's stunt, South Korean Olympic Committee President Kim Chong-Ha resigned, accepting full responsibility. Byun went on to fight professionally and in 1993 won the WBC bantamweight title.
Seoul, 1988: The light middleweight gold-medal bout was dominated by American Roy Jones, who landed punches against South Korea's Park Si-Hun almost at will. However, while Soviet and Hungarian judges gave Jones a lopsided victory, the three other judges awarded Park a slight edge, making him a 3-2 winner. Park reportedly congratulated Jones after the bout and admitted the decision was wrong. Jones, who went on to be a multi-class professional champion, took silver despite winning the Val Barker Cup, given to the outstanding boxer of the Olympic tournament.
"leftard thinking that gave Germany the Olympics in '36 gave it to Russia in '80 and China in '08 "
oh, I see ural; all our n. american firms churning out bazillion dollars with their chinese mfg plants are . . . . . leftoids at heart.
china made a slick presentation and won the games venue having corrected the mistakes in their previous attempt.
and again, it WASNT 'leftard thinking' that gave nazi germany the 1936 games. it was the fact they were so prosperous they could build the facilities necessary and use it as a propaganda tool of their prowess on the world stage. if anything, naziism is the antithesis of 'leftard thinking'. go forward a tad to the spanish civil war. nazis on the side of the 'leftards'? nope.
Posted by: jesussavesthepure at April 18, 2008 1:17 AMFor some people history starts only with their own date of birth...
Posted by: Pathologist at April 18, 2008 10:59 AM56 comments over a photoshopped picture.
Posted by: ulianov at April 18, 2008 6:27 PMNormally there'd be two separate signs, a "no U turn" sign and a "no right turn" sign. Here's a bit of creative signage, the combination of two signs, you'll agree an economy of one sign ad perhaps even a post. Now that kind of thinking outside the box by city street sign makers is to be applauded. It's easily enough grasped by the mind while driving, all at once causing the driver to process, "Oh! I must keep going straight, or if I chose to bust a move it'll have to be a right turn."
As to the sign about Nazi Germany hosting the Olympics, man, that irony sure can be ironic!
Posted by: Bour3 at April 19, 2008 2:40 AM"if anything, naziism is the antithesis of 'leftard thinking'. go forward a tad to the spanish civil war. nazis on the side of the 'leftards'? nope."
Cartoon of Hitler and Stalin meeting over the dismembered body of Poland?
Joshua Muravchik, "Heaven On Earth: The Rise and Fall of Socialism":
NSDAP Platform, 1920 (Anton Drexler and Hitler, authors): "ruthless confiscation of war gains"; "nationalization of all...trusts"; "profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out"; "confiscation without compensation of land for common purposes; abolition of interest on land loans, and prevention of all speculation in land"; "usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race" (Page 163)
Goebbels, 1926: "We look towards Russia, because Russia is that country most likely to take the road to socialism with us: because Russia is an ally nature has given us against the devilish contamination and corruption of the West." (Page 159)
Hitler, 1934: "National Socialism derives from each of the two camps the pure idea that characterizes it, national resolution from the bourgeois tradition, [and] vital, creative socialism from from the teachings of Marxism." (Page 158)
Hitler, undated: "I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit.... The difference between them and and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen-pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it.... National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with democratic order." (Page 164)
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Oh, yes. Also: the socialist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine collaborating with Palestinian Islamic Jihad to launch attacks on Israel (within the "1948-1967 borders").
As for Franco vs. Stalin's puppets, no war is more fierce than a fratricidal war.
See also "Liberal Fascism: ..., From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning" by Jonah Goldberg.
Posted by: jwkozak91 at April 19, 2008 5:56 AMIcing on the cake: Juan Antonio Samaranch, a Spaniard with ties to Franco, happily awarded the games to Beijing as his last act as head of the IOC.
Posted by: jwkozak91 at April 19, 2008 6:07 AM