http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/
poll : Do you think Gary Doer's new climate change legislation will make a difference?
Left hand side, half way down, help us out guys!
Posted by: allan at April 12, 2008 3:06 PMbahahaha, it's cookie based even.
Posted by: allan at April 12, 2008 3:08 PMIt's worth reading through the threads at
http://drdawgsblawg.blogspot.com/2008/04/another-call-for-warmans-execution.html
http://chrisvanoostveen.blogspot.com/2008/04/attention-warren-kinsella-lawyer.html
http://ezralevant.com/2008/04/richard-warman-has-sued-me-and.html
http://ezralevant.com/2008/04/thoughts-from-new-york.html
Kinsella's buddy "Dr Dawg" & Co. have spent the last couple days libelling Ezra Levant with the claim he knowingly posted a death threat against Richard Warman. Kinsella did the same on his site (Ezra has "lost all self-control" etc.). Apparently libel (like assault) is okay as long as you support HRCs...
Posted by: Chris Vanoostveen at April 12, 2008 3:22 PMThe 'Farley Mowat' has been seized by the coast guard/RCMP.Loyola Hearn just held quite a 'spicy' press conf.He ain't too backward about calling these greenpeacers 'money-grabbers'Graham Richardson (ctv) pretty rude and aggressive toward Loyola,but the old fella stood his ground! Once again,the Cons gov't standing up for the little guy!
Posted by: Sammy at April 12, 2008 3:28 PMthe net and msm in 2014 EPIC. how do like your eggs - basted, boiled (hard or soft), over easy or sunny side up, poached, scrambled or raw? found this link on ed driscoll's blog:
http://robinsloan.com/epic/
The "Farley Mowat" was boarded by Canadian Coast Gaurd. The Minister of Fisheries
was on CTV Newsworld with report,and answered several questions.The "Farley Mowat" is anti sealing vessel.
Those knuckle-dragging, redneck, rural, racist, bigoted, troglodytes are giving back. There oughta be a law ...
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"IPM to plow $200,000 back into community
Its legacy is already assured but the 2007 International Plowing Match in Leeds and Grenville has another 200,000 reasons to be remembered by local residents.
Last September’s highly successful event near Crosby turned a $400,000 profit, of which half goes to the sponsoring Ontario Plowmen’s Association and the balance into a legacy fund to be distributed to non-profit organizations in the United Counties.
“It’s a fair chunk of money and we’re happy to give it back,” legacy committee chairman Bill Sloan told The Recorder and Times.
A councillor with Edwardsburgh-Cardinal Township, Sloan was at the municipal office on Friday preparing application forms for organizations that contributed volunteer help to the IPM last September.
“It’s a nice thing to be able to do.”
But all non-profit groups in the United Counties are eligible, he noted.'"
http://recorder.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=982442&auth=Nick+Gardiner
When lawbreakers become heroes.
Posted by: Spinks at April 12, 2008 3:45 PMthankyou Al Gore, Dr.Megele Suzuki and Borat Dion and Kyoto.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080412/food_riots_080412/20080412?hub=TopStories
diverting food to "green energy"
If only they had worn leather hosen and listened to polka instead of our rap a whole lot of African American lives would have been saved. Another blame whitey drip.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ibsAEZmYrooKgmHaezmgGUKZu-lQD8VVUAHG0
Posted by: Shawn at April 12, 2008 3:50 PM... another environmental success story !
"Biofuels go from saviour to villain"
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=439710
"Conservatives happier than Liberals"
(National Post)
"In 2004, people who said they were conservative or very conservative were nearly twice as likely to say they were very happy as people who called themsleves liberal or very liberal (44% versus 25%)."
Kinsella calls conservative blogs 'hate blogs,' this survey would suggest the opposite. Comments on left blogs prove the opposite.
Posted by: irwin daisy at April 12, 2008 4:36 PMIt's George's* fault. George liberated the Iraqis. The idol of Islam has fallen.
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"Violence Leaves Young Iraqis Doubting Clerics
BAGHDAD — After almost five years of war, many young people in Iraq, exhausted by constant firsthand exposure to the violence of religious extremism, say they have grown disillusioned with religious leaders and skeptical of the faith that they preach."
"“I hate Islam and all the clerics because they limit our freedom every day and their instruction became heavy over us,” said Sara, a high school student in Basra. “Most of the girls in my high school hate that Islamic people control the authority because they don’t deserve to be rulers.”
Atheer, a 19-year-old from a poor, heavily Shiite neighborhood in southern Baghdad, said: “The religion men are liars. Young people don’t believe them. Guys my age are not interested in religion anymore.”"
"‘You Cost Us This’
“In the beginning, they gave their eyes and minds to the clerics; they trusted them,” said Abu Mahmoud, a moderate Sunni cleric in Baghdad, who now works deprogramming religious extremists in American detention. “It’s painful to admit, but it’s changed. People have lost too much. They say to the clerics and the parties: You cost us this.”
“When they behead someone, they say ‘Allahu akbar,’ they read Koranic verse,” said a moderate Shiite sheik from Baghdad, using the phrase for “God is great.”
“The young people, they think that is Islam,” he said. “So Islam is a failure, not only in the students’ minds, but also in the community.”
A professor at Baghdad University’s School of Law, who identified herself only as Bushra, said of her students: “They have changed their views about religion. They started to hate religious men. They make jokes about them because they feel disgusted by them.”"
http://tinyurl.com/5vmftq (nyt)
*http://tinyurl.com/5cpldk
Today on his blog, Warren Kinsella wrote:
"Avril Lavigne Must Die"
Check it out if you don't believe me. Is that murder incitement? or is he joking? how am i suppose to know?
Posted by: atheist quebecois separatiste at April 12, 2008 5:10 PMthe greens turn red with fury.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/Story.html?id=103128
I am a few years - easily!- past Avril's demographic, but she's written some good tunes and she's hugely successful. Can you imagine how infuriating this is to a sad old fart like Kinsella who posed as a musician?
Posted by: dean spencer - fox at April 12, 2008 5:57 PMJames Lewis draws excellent parallels between the Salem witch trials where the accused must prove their innocence and the shut down of debate on global warming.
The column can be found at:
www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/the_slick_trick_behind_global.html
The natural end result of multiculturalism: ghettos, welfare, foodbanks, mosques, beggars on the streets, "Weekly Hot Soup Day", & more.
Brought to Canada by the socialist Liberals-NDP.
All paid for by other Canadians. It's a "shameful admission" which the leftists will never admit.
Multiculturalism is buried in the PET Cemetery; its ghosts will haunt Canada for generations; Big Bertha Justice Wilson's curse.
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"For Muslim poor, a shameful admission"
""Already we can see the formation of ghettos in some parts of the city," said Shakir, referring to neighbourhoods where overt race-based poverty is glaringly obvious, and where halal meat stores are in abundance."
"a food bank and distributes food to shelters once a month. More than 200 people regularly access the food bank."
"Colour of Poverty campaign."
"Parvaiz is organizing a walk for poverty in the summer with proceeds going to a local food bank."
"runs a halal food bank and emergency women's shelter, funded by donations from the community,"
"weekly Hot Soup Day at the Islamic Foundation of Toronto, a mosque in Scarborough – the first to launch a project of this kind in the city. The initiative now serves and distributes 750 meals each week. Masjid Toronto will be starting a similar soup kitchen at downtown's Scadding Court at the end of this"
http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/413881
"“Food vs Fuel” Argument is False
Here is some interesting data that shows that the food vs fuel argument is false."
[chart]
"Note the bottom line. AFTER corn crop removal for ethanol production the US produced a net of 9.7 million bushels in 2002, 10.4 million bushels in 2006, and 12.2 million bushels in 2007.
Thus despite the growth of the corn ethanol industry (or actually because of it, as I’ll explain below) the net corn food product of the USA increased 17% between 2006 and 2007, and 26% since 2002. Overall, US farm exports are up 23%.
The reason why this is so is because agriculture is not a zero sum game. Only about 30% of US arable land is actually being farmed (it’s more like 15% in the third world). As a result of the ethanol program, the price received by farmers increased over the past year from $3.50/bushel to $5 per bushel. (There are 56 pounds of corn in a bushel - that’s actual grain, not corn on the cob. So $5/bu corn is $0.09/lb). By increasing the price the farmer gets from $0.07/lb to $0.09/lb, the program caused a great increase in the amount grown, both by increasing acreage and intensity of effort, and thus yield. This puts more corn on the market, and actually acts as a factor to decrease the price that grain merchants can charge for the corn, since they need to sell it all. (Adam Smith discusses this very issue in The Wealth of Nations.)
However, the retail price of corn, as well as all other food commodities, is being driven up an average of 4% by increased fuel prices, which are up 40% this year, as well as increased demand from China and India. The increased fuel prices affect retail food prices by increasing the price of production (of both agricultural products and especially fisheries), transport, wages, and packaging, which are the majority of cost of retail food. (At $5/bu, a $2.50 box of cornflakes, which contains 15 oz or corn, contains corn that cost 8 cents when bought from the farmer."
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“Gusher of Lies” Author Chickens Out of Debate
On March 25, I challenged Robert Bryce, author of “Gusher of Lies,” a book saying we don’t need to do anything for energy independence, to public debate. He accepted the same day. The Set America Free Coalition immediately stepped forward and offered to host a debate in Washington DC at the end of April. However, today his publicist called me to say that he was chickening out of the DC debate. She said he couldn’t make it to DC. So I offered to meet him in NYC instead. Not possible. Chicago? No. Denver? No. Los Angeles? No. I offered to travel to any other city to do the debate at any place of his convenience. She answered that he could not make it there, either.
So for now, the “Gusher of Lies” continues, in hiding from refutation.
The challenge remains open.
Robert Zubrin
author “Energy Victory”"
(via bourque)
http://www.setamericafree.org/wordpress/?p=378
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=eb603de8-4464-4597-b93e-9cf9bd4d501f&k=41186
Fisheries Minister defends armed seizure of anti-seal ship
I am especially galled by a paragraph near the end..
The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society said that the Farley Mowat was gathering proof that the seals were being killed in an inhumane manner. Watson said that he assumed all the video tapes had been seized by the Canadian authorities.
What an appaling lie. Are they trying to tell us they use videotape? I imagine that "he assumed all the tiny dime sized memory chips that could be hidden absolutely anywhere were seized the Canadian authorities" lacked impact.
Posted by: Eric at April 12, 2008 6:25 PMCareful, Dean. That old fart Kinsella, like his hero Warman, will have your a$$ in a lawsuit.
Posted by: BCer at April 12, 2008 6:27 PMThis is what the AGW cultists do to keep their lie from being discovered:
"Wikipedia's Zealots: Solomon"
National Post
When Oreskes's paper came out, it was immediately challenged by science writers and scientists alike, one of them being Benny Peiser, a prominent UK scientist and publisher of CCNet, an electronic newsletter to which I and thousands of others subscribe. CCNet daily circulates articles disputing the conventional wisdom on climate change. No publication better informs readers about climate change controversies, and no person is better placed to judge informed dissent on climate change than Benny Peiser.
For this reason, when visiting Oreskes's page on Wikipedia several weeks ago, I was surprised to read not only that Oreskes had been vindicated but that Peiser had been discredited. More than that, the page portrayed Peiser himself as having grudgingly conceded Oreskes's correctness.
Upon checking with Peiser, I found he had done no such thing. The Wikipedia page had misunderstood or distorted his comments. I then exercised the right to edit Wikipedia that we all have, corrected the Wikipedia entry, and advised Peiser that I had done so.
.......
I undid Tabletop's undoing of my edits, thinking I had an unassailable response: "Tabletop's changes claim to represent Peiser's views. I have checked with Peiser and he disputes Tabletop's version."
Tabletop undid my undid, claiming I could not speak for Peiser.
Why can Tabletop speak for Peiser but not I, who have his permission?, I thought. I redid Tabletop's undid and protested: "Tabletop is distorting Peiser. She does not speak for him. Peiser has approved my description of events concerning him."
Tabletop parried: "we have a reliable source to this. What Peiser has said to *you* is irrelevant."
Tabletop, it turns out, has another name: Kim Dabelstein Petersen. She (or he?) is an editor at Wikipedia. What does she edit? Reams and reams of global warming pages. I started checking them. In every instance I checked, she defended those warning of catastrophe and deprecated those who believe the science is not settled. I investigated further. Others had tried to correct her interpretations and had the same experience as I -- no sooner did they make their corrections than she pounced, preventing Wikipedia readers from reading anyone's views but her own. When they protested plaintively, she wore them down and snuffed them out. By patrolling Wikipedia pages and ensuring that her spin reigns supreme over all climate change pages, she has made of Wikipedia a propaganda vehicle for global warming alarmists. But unlike government propaganda, its source is not self-evident. We don't suspend belief when we read Wikipedia, as we do when we read literature from an organization with an agenda, because Wikipedia benefits from the Internet's cachet of making information free and democratic. This Big Brother enforces its views with a mouse.
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As good a reason as any not to use wikipedia for reference on anything.
Not to be a pest, Irwin, but I think your use of the word anything regarding Wikipedia is over-reaching. If one wants to look up uncontroversial information, from the land area of Canada to Faraday's Law, it works great. The important caveat emptor clause in the case of Wikipedia is: The more controversial the matter, the more skeptical one should be. When one gets to the level of controversial current political events, pretty much all bets are off.
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 12, 2008 6:51 PMIrwin, I think that suspending belief should be a SOP when looking up anything on Wikipedia, other than the date.
Posted by: Jim N at April 12, 2008 7:10 PMRex nails the Kangaroo courts. Time to cut off these morons lip-lock on the public teat.
"I'm not a lawyer, so I merely ask the question: Is it normal when declining a case (or, in this case, a complaint) for a commission, court or tribunal to then deliver a guilty verdict? For that's what the press statement, directly, or by forceful implication, did."
RTR or RTWT (your choice)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4h7s7y
Posted by: Fred at April 12, 2008 7:13 PMMaybe so, Vitruvius, however, when an owner positions his product as an informational portal and then instructs his employees to remove truth and facts in order to let his own pet propoganda remain uncriticized and unchallenged, one should make a decision whether they want to support such a person and his product altogether.
Companies, owners and their brands are free to make whatever decisions they want, at the same time, consumers are free to make them suffer the free market consequences of those decisions, no?
Starbucks comes to mind.
Posted by: irwin daisy at April 12, 2008 7:20 PM*
you've been sittin' there for 7 hours in the emergency room
with all the other poor, bedraggled donkeyheads... who wouldn't
wanna just say, "f@ck it" and go home?
*
Posted by: neo at April 12, 2008 7:26 PMAgreed, Irwin. If one wants. Here's Jackie Mason's Starbucks rant ;-)
video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7529134985242810869
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 12, 2008 7:26 PMFor the record, I never use wikipedia for reference.
Posted by: irwin daisy at April 12, 2008 7:29 PM
poll : Do you think Gary Doer's new climate change legislation will make a difference?
I don't care the snow still hasn't melted in my yard.
Yeah it'll make a difference my taxes will go up.
How can you answer that if you say no you are just encouraging more taxes in the future. When he spends enough to get it right.
Allan I said yes.
In other news I have my whole family singing the video Kate posted the other day "If I had some global warming."
The rivers have melted here, but not any nearby ponds. Yet I keep hearing there is no ice for polar bears up north even though I managed to find pics of a pretty solidly frozen Hudson Bay.
Kate--
Just wanted to let you know that many of us south of the border are standing with you. And I've let my Canadian friends know that their freedom of speech is most definitely under threat.
Regards,
Alois
Schmaltz und Grieben mit Alois, Klaus, Deb und der Lugers
http://schmaltz.typepad.com
Vitruvius,
Funny bit by Jackie Mason. I might add, 'would you like a double dose of Barack Obama with your coffee?' Beck did an interesting expose on Starbucks values this past week. A very hypocritical organisation to say the least.
My company was on contract with Second Cup for a number of years and I learned a thing or two about coffee. Starbucks uses the Robusta bean. The cheaper bean in making coffee, typically grown in places like Vietnam. The Arabica bean is the better bean, in terms of quality and morrally, how its harvested and workers compensated. This is the bean that Second Cup used at the time, yet their prices were equal if not less than Starbucks.
How do you like that for hypocricy?
Posted by: irwin daisy at April 12, 2008 7:54 PMI was reading a global warming story in one of the dopier London papers the other day. The writer was alarmed to report that Hudson Bay has warmed to the point that it is now possible in the summer for Russian grain ships to sail as far west as Churchill. Astonishing news. Next thing you know there will be polar bears at the local garbage dump.
Posted by: Free Thinker at April 12, 2008 8:10 PM
Maz2 @ 4.37 Thanks for that. I saw something ou of the corner of nmy eye earlier this week but was busy with other things.
Good news, eh :-)
Of course, the anti-American bleeding heart liberals, socialists and fellow moral relativists, will blame Bush for destroying their culture.
Girls, after all, don't just want to have bombs.
Posted by: RW at April 12, 2008 8:19 PMIf you think Kates case is nuts. Have a look see at this socialist affliction breaking out in schools. I wonder how long before gay's sart getting sued for even looking at people if 4 year olds are now charged with sexual harrasment.
There seems to be no common sense or even a thread of reality left in these people doing this. Its like there brains have been hijacked by aliens. In all honesty how can they function in the real world? This is actually scary in its implications. Now they belive children are sexually actiive. Isn't this playing into the hands of NAMBLA?
Randy Principles
First Grade outrage.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmU5NGIxZmZmODE4ZWJjOTE0NmM1ZTY3ZjRkNjQ1ZDI=
By Mark Steyn
RW: the link was to the New York Times.
Flopping Aces comments:
"So while its heartening to see the NYT’s actually acknowledging the shift in Iraq, its not surprising they leave out one important facet of how this came to be…..namely, Bush was right.
Don’t ever expect to see that printed in their paper, but it needs to be said." ...-
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/04/iraqis-turning-against-religious-fanaticism/
Hey Irwin, either didn't pay attention to your coffee lessons, or you were lied to!
My wife manages a *bucks in South Winnipeg, and I can assure you that they do use Arabica beans. *bucks also doesn't take part in the fair trade program, which costs the farmers an inordinant amount to get certified, but instead pays above FT rates.
Posted by: Yukon Gold at April 12, 2008 9:24 PMWhat is this asteriskbucks of which you speak ?-)
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 12, 2008 9:29 PM.
CORN PRODUCTION vs FOOD & ETHANOL
I found this article enlightening , it shows ethonol is not causing food shortages.
http://www.setamericafree.org/wordpress/?p=378
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Posted by: Arnie Madsen at April 12, 2008 9:31 PMOkay, I bit and went to check out what Warren said about Avril. I think that is a song, free ring tone download, but it sure doesn't "read" very good. BUT what I thought was so funny is did a quick scroll and his comments are VERY low. Lots of FOURS! Not much interest over there. I now understand why he is so bent out of shape with Kate: Kate's Kicking a$$ over his site. Now, I wish he would just go away.
Re: *bucks,
That's what i was told by both SC management and growers. They may very well have Arabica beans in whole bean sales, but it stands to reason, given their growth to over 6,000 corporate outlets, logistics and available supply, that they brew with Robusta beans. As far as their fair trade statement is concerned, that's unqualified.
Posted by: irwin daisy at April 12, 2008 9:59 PMObama, in full irony:
http://i28.tinypic.com/e8r23n.jpg
Posted by: Shaken at April 12, 2008 10:01 PMRobusta beans? As in the variety planted by the Vietnamese after the end of the war? The variety that Vietnam dumped on the market causing a worldwide depression of prices, forcing peasant farmers around the world off their plantations?
Posted by: Shaken at April 12, 2008 10:05 PMJava Jive: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pULXnVTRynY
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 12, 2008 10:08 PM*bucks? Aren't they the guys that have the Corinthian coffee beans?
Thank Vitruvius. I still prefer the Ink Spots' version.
Posted by: Shaken at April 12, 2008 10:44 PMAs in...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM6yGcu2Xh8
Me too, Shaken. Honestly, I tried to google up a version by the Ink Spots before I posted the Manhatten Transfer version ~ thanks for that link. Believe it or not, it turns out I have in my possession an actual original 12" pre-vinyl copy of the Ink Spots performing Java Jive, from the early '50s I think. Right now I can't find the work (to scan in the cover ~ great pictures of the musicians), but I've added that and the mp3 to my queue for a future SDA LNR.
Posted by: Vitruvius at April 12, 2008 10:59 PMUmmmmmm...lets see...the nutcases on the Sea Sheaprad (sic) called their boarding an act of WAR? Hey dip s*(ts.If it was an act of war,you would not be alive to pander to the MSM and your boat would be a new reef! Oh.Sounds like a good idea to me.
Posted by: Justthinkin at April 12, 2008 11:05 PMMichael Fumento, A Debt That Can Never Be Repaid
Now in one of the most secure areas of the world, the White House, it was time for this strange reunion, to celebrate the third Medal of Honor given for actions in the Iraq war--all post-humous. The California-based survivors of SEAL Team 3 showed up, including one blind in both eyes. Another was blind in one eye and appeared to be missing a chunk of his left arm. At a later ceremony, the teammates of "Mikey," as they called him, would receive 11 Silver Stars--the Navy's third-highest honor. It made them the most decorated SEAL unit since Vietnam. Representatives of 1/506th were present, as well as dignitaries, to hear Bush praise Monsoor's actions...
Maz2 Intersting piece but it only talks about corn as if that is what the world eats. If the author wants to convince me that he is not just suggesting that increased corn production proves that the switch to ethanol production has no effect on food costs I would need figures on US production of all the other grains and food stuffs in order to find if land has been switched to corn from other feed. As well as the rest of the world. While the author speaks of larger harvests, of corn, other sources are speaking of lowest levels of stock on hand for many grains. What role does the increased land devoted to corn have in low levels of on hand storage of other grains?
The increase in ethanol production would also lead speculators to drive up the price of corn (if it looks like a good buy) driving up the price of other grains because the industry anticipates the availability, demand, and production when setting the price. Not to mention that it is only human nature to hold back the sale of your product if you think the price will be going up.
Many other points as well.
Since it is rice that feeds the most it is the effects of it's shortage that will cause the most social unrest.
Nope, Irwin, I guarantee you *bucks uses Arabica:
http://www.starbucks.com/ourcoffees/coffee_edu5.asp?category_name=coffee+trees+and+beans
Also, regarding fair trade, *bucks pays $1.40+ per lb of coffee cherries. Fair trade prices are set at $1.25 or so. That's not unqualified, it's a fact.
(I got this info from my wife, who has to get briefings on how to fight misinformation on the company... no matter what, everybody guns for the big kid on the block.)
Posted by: Yukon Gold at April 13, 2008 12:16 AMHappened to be at a medical conference today with a large number of people from Washington state and had a rather interesting talk with a couple of psychologists about the Canadian medical system. They were obviously Democrats and were praising the Canadian system and hoping for the same in the US. Turns out that one of their major sources of information was Michael Moore's Sicko and I'm sure I changed their minds about socialized medicine by giving them the facts.
Apparently Washington state has now passed a law that requires all insurers to provide coverage for psychologists up to 12 visits/year and I knew I had shattered their illusions when I told them that the Canadian medical plan doesn't cover psychologists services at all. It just took a few more facts about length of waiting lists for hip and knee replacement surgery, the illegality of purchasing private medical services in Canada and the very short amount of time that most doctors spend with patients here to make them seriously reconsider whether they wanted socialized medicine in the USA.
If it were only that easy to change Canadian politicians views on socialized medicine and start making some progress on the mess that medicare has gotten us into.
Posted by: loki at April 13, 2008 4:14 AMSo Islam is a failure, not only in the students’ minds, but also in the community.”
Great news Maz2. I've been wondering when they were going to wake up and smell the coffee.
Pat
loki...if educated professionals are using Moore for their 'source' we should be very worried about the upcoming election in the states.
Posted by: bluetech at April 13, 2008 9:08 AMThat's not unqualified, it's a fact.
Posted by: Yukon Gold at 12:16 AM only fools and the missinformed deal in "FACTS" (or absolutes)
I don't know , or care wot the truth is in this matter, but have seem on occations were "company" people were instructed on company matters, and all they were told wuz a bunch of BS!!!
Pictures that should shame us all reveal the shabby way Britain treats its fallen heroes
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=559303
Posted by: mike at April 14, 2008 6:43 AM