Where are we headed with this and how will it end in this politically correct country bending and bowing, selling out to all comers? These Commie commissions are magnets for zealots to infiltrate.

HRC's are set up to stifle debate and freedom of thought and speech. They do not belong in a free society, we have them therefore we are not a free society.

Evidence of something I've said here many times before (IRWIN!), that more often than not, Muslims come to Canada to get -away- from this Islamofascist sharia CRAP they suffer under back home.

These guys have stones. Big attaboy Farzana Hassan. Way to be.

I couldn't let that one go, Phantom.

I don't disagree with you. I believe in certain Islamic groups such as Muslims against Sharia, the MCC, etc. Certainly, a lot of Muslims are against Islamofascism and a lot are nominal Muslims, simply born into it.

As I've consistently stated, I am against the root ideology of conquest, the foundation of which is in the texts. The Quran is seen as the uncreated word of Allah, the commands good for all time. And Mohammad whose works, deeds and sayings in the Sira and Hadith are commanded to be followed by all Muslims.

This is the the inherent danger and root of the problem. The rest is execution.

There is no moderate Quran, or moderate Mohammad.

I agree with The Phanton that these guys have brass balls. Speaking out against other Muslims is a good way to attract unwanted attention from unsavory characters. It is good to hear Muslims speaking out against the extremists in their community.

In yesterday's Post, Joseph Brean had an article about the OHRC and quoted Tarek Fatah as saying "to refer to Maclean's magazine and journalists as contributing to racism is bullshit, if you can use that word." and continued with "In the eyes of the Ontario human rights commission, the only good Muslim is an Islamist Muslim," he said. "As long as we hate Canada, we will be cared for. As soon as we say Canada is our home and we have to defend her traditions, freedoms and secular democracy, we will be considered as the outside."

Best line is at the end

"The OHRC decision must be cause for celebration in Osama Bin Laden's cave and among the soldiers of the world Jihadi movement that love to spread the falsehood that Canada is at war with Islam and that Muslims in Canada live under a cloud of racism and persecution. Nothing can be further from the truth."

100% agreement with that.

There's a deep pathology in multiculturalism, where the government sets itself up as an elite set of Rulers, philosopher-kings, separated from and ruling over the peasantry. This perspective views the passive population as 'Other', as 'not us'. WE, the rulers, make the decisions. YOU, the ruled, have your folkfests and your private beliefs and behaviour.

Multiculturalism is a tactic to maintain this separation between the Rulers and the Ruled. It sees the beliefs and behaviour of the population as almost irrelevant - to the point where no values can be placed on these beliefs/behaviour. They are all identical in their triviality. None have any value beyond their practitioners.

Since the population in multiculturalism is reduced to a collection of irrelevant and valueless beliefs/behaviours - which are confined to each group - the population is rendered harmless. They can't interfere with The Rulers because they are locked within their Set of Irrelevant Beliefs/Behaviours.

Multiculturalism views the population as members of a group. Groups are meant to confine and constrain individuals. In a multicultural society such as Canada, individualism is ignored or rejected. Aberrant behaviour is tolerated when it is defined as a group typology (eg. all Jamaicans have weak families and therefore, this individual's criminal behaviour is 'understandable').

So, the HRCs of Canada will continue to support multiculturalism, as a strategy to define and confine the population within isolate value systems. Again, those values are actually without value, for they have no meaning outside of the group. Multiculturalism supports this.

Sadly there is no further proof offered on the alegation of "Sharia Moles". It would be nice for someone to follow up with MCC to ask them to clarify. The statement is pretty bold, not that I dont believe it. It is just nice if they offer proof or evidence to back up their accusation.

If true then perhaps the Ontario government better clean house. This is exactly how these changes take place. Whether you agree with gay marriage or not what is clear that the path to get there was marked out in a legal strategy to build the case.

I would suspect that Sharia is being done the same way, funded appropriately and the cause picked up by the left, since they arent married to the existing system of laws anyway. In fact fracturing the current set of laws would meet their ideological goals.

One law please, I know its old fashioned but it seems to work pretty well. Anything new needs to fit in under the umbrella framework for criminal, corporate and civil law. If it doesnt fit it isnt the law. Anything else breeds confusion, inequity and fraying of the societal fabric.

Here endeth todays rant.....

It's encouraging to see a moderate non confrontational Muslim community voice being heard.

The more I see of the MCC the more they appear as a community service group and not a political pressure NGO like the CJC and CIC.

Who is the minister who handles this portfolio?

Agreed Irwin and WL.
This makes my day.

I agree with a combination of ET's analysis and Stephen's solution.

It is caused by those that believe the rest of us are "beer and popcorn" subjects that need to be ruled. The solution is to return to one standard for all in law, hiring, human rights, religion, criticism, debate, etc.

The rights movement was successful because it did remove barriers. Then they moved from advocating equality into promoting inequality. The movement is now about continually gaining more of these "special" rights that apply to only a few select groups.

Truly discouraging news from Eurabia (formerly Great Britain). As reported by David Frum, the British Court of Appeal, in two separate rulings, has declared that (1) terrorists cannot be deported and must therefore be released; and (2) are entitled to welfare - about $2000 per month for life.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23476325-details/Bin+Laden’s+’right-hand+man’+set+for+life+on+British+benefits+after+judges+rule+deportation+would+breach+his+human+rights/article.do

We should be wearing black armbands in memory of a once-great land. But more importantly, we should be spreading the word in Canada and the U.S. in the hope that we can avoid societal suicide, because as Mark Steyn's book declares, it is America Alone.

Irwin, I'm just tweaking you man. If you change "a lot of Muslims are against Islamofascism" to -most- Muslims (in Canada anyway) we are in perfect agreement.

Indeed, if it weren't for the imbecilic insistence on multiculturalism you'd probably hardly ever see a hijab on any woman younger than 30 even in Toronto. Tres uncool, y'know.

Liberals and fellow travelers please take note, in a FREE country an absence of official multi-culti idiocy does not automatically mean oppression of minorities by Da Whayt Mayn.

Freedom means you're free to wear your outfit from the Old Country if you want. It also means other people are free to look at you funny. Responsibility for your choices is the flip side of freedom.

Try wearing a kilt some time, see if people look at you funny. In my experience, you get a lot of questions about underwear. Which is good when the questioners are cute girls.

I just read the recent interview with Mark Steyn and Glen Beck. They talk about the irony that U.S. Mormon polygamist compounds get raided (as they should be), yet here in the swirling cesspool of socialism (Can-uh-duh), polygimist Muslim men can collect welfare for his harem of wives. All in the name of celebrating diversity, I suppose.

The next time you see someone standing on a street corner with a sandwich board declaring "The End is Neigh", you may want to consider that they may indeed be onto something.

Sissies are suing bloggers and hacking private citizen's computers because of apparent "hurt feelings" and reeping huge dollars. South of the border, a half black man is spewing racial bile against an entire white population (of which he is a 50% member by blood, he just looks more black than white) and getting a free pass by the MSM. (Don't even get me started on this whole global warming Ponzi scheme).

My once beloved Conservative party sits with their collective thumbs up their bums, whistling past the graveyard so to speak, as some of their biggest (and probably former) cheerleaders (Ezra, Kate, Kathy, et al) are forced to go it alone, lest they be labelled as "against human rights" should they dare declare a party position regarding this matter.

Yep, good men (and women) are doing nothing. No one wants to hurt anyone's feelings, be labelled as an extremist, having a hidden agenda, etc. etc. etc.

Seeing no one in government has the cajones to put a stop to this madness that has turned an entire country into self esteem demanding, sissy panty wetters, it's up to the real grass roots to stand behind those being attacked.

As Steyn said to Beck, support these folks. Buy a copy of Kathy's (and Mark's) books, donate what you can, even if it's 5 dollars. Let everyone know about these blog sites that so many of us have enjoyed over the years.

I've been lurking here at 'dead critters' before Kate hit her first million. I don't post that often and am hardly a 'popular' poster here like some of the regulars I so much enjoy, but please don't let these good folks be crushed.

Thank you Kate. You're one hell of a gal.

The CHRC statement: "While freedom of expression must be recognized as a cornerstone of a functioning democracy, the Commission strongly condemns the Islamophobic portrayal of Muslims, Arabs, South Asians and indeed any racialized community in the media, such as the Maclean’s article and others like them, as being inconsistent with the values enshrined in our human rights codes. Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism."

It is alarming that they are enshrining the word "Islamophobia" and attaching the ideology to race in their statements, taking up and furthering Islamist tactics. This despite the fact that there are white Muslims, such as Chechens, Albanians, etc., and the fact that not all Asians and Arabs are Muslim. The word makes clear that it is an irrational fear. This despite the texts, the actions and sayings of Mohammad and the 10,000 terror attacks since 911. All of the fanatics use the words of the Quran and Mohammad's example to justify their actions. They do this in Allah's name, it is not an imaginary invention of so-called "Islamophobes."

I find the inclusion of this word and attaching it to race, offensive, wreckless and dangerous.

I believe it was Robert Spencer who said:

"I reject the terms “Islamophobia” and “Islamophobe.” They are manipulative coinages designed to suggest that resistance to the global jihad and Islamic supremacism is not a matter of love for Western (or any other non-Muslim) culture and the defense of universal human rights, but is instead a pathology, a manifestation of bigotry that is fundamentally irrational and must be rejected. There have been 10,000-plus jihad terror attacks that have been perpetrated around the world since 9/11, and supremacist statements made by Islamic leaders the world over. To call a healthy awareness of this and resistance to it “Islamophobia” simply manifests either an inexcusable complacency or an outright complicity with the jihadists."

Eskimo your post mirrors my own feelings, thanks for saving me the keystrokes.

I congratulate the MCC for speaking out, I'd gladly stand beside it's members and fight for our culture. Political and Radical Islam appears to be part of the mandate of the HRC, how utterly horrific is that.

"Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism."

The CHRC hates stereotypes and generalizations that paint an entire group in one color. Except, of course, for when it suits them.

On one hand, they say it's wrong to imply that all Muslims are terrorists just because a few are. However, it's just fine to imply that all Muslims are victims just because a few are called names.

This, two-faced, hypocritical approach to debate is used successfully every day to stifle free speech and honest debate. It's no wonder the CHRC are using it to protect their radical Islamic sweethearts.

Successful black businessfolk are trotted out on stage at special Black galas and honored for their achievements. The entire Black community are encouraged to feel pride in being black.

Our welfare housing, courts and prisons are filled with blacks and black people are encouraged to feel no shame and take no blame.

Radical muslims didn't invent this game, but they are sure learning how to play it.

The assertion that media have a responsibility to practice fair and unbiased journalism is false, and presumptuous. Print media orporations have no responsibility to anyone other than their owners, and to the citizens as codified in law. If the commissioner tacitly asserts that the role of the OHRC is to adjudicate what constitutes "fair and unbiased journalism", then I expect to have a similar statement issued by the OHRC condemning "knuckledragging" journalism. After, these commissions have a responsibility to be fair and unbiased.

Getting Sharia law established here is one the first steps to promoting Radical Islam, I am glad these people are standing up and saying no to Sharia law and to radical nutbarism and I sent them an e-mail thanking them for their comments.

I suspect if we punted central Canada on their a$$es that would probably solve our problem. I guess that makes me racist against Ontario.(what ever that is suppose to mean)

I was just thinking.....did we just get a preview of the BCHRC and CHRC rulings. Ontario rightfully indicated they dont have jurisdiction unlike others such as the BCHRC and CHRC.

So given that OHRC said if they did then Macleans was guilty then BC and CHRC should rule Macleans guilty. All that remains to be considered is the amount of the penalty.

I am sure the sharp eyed lawyers at rogers media and the counsel they have likely hired in have seen this.

This isnt over unless CHRC and BCHRC find another way out of this. Wouldnt each HRC refer to other HRC's for precedent? If so then BCHRC just has to find they have jurisdiction and reference the OHRC "extra comments" and the case is done. Which makes the comments by Ms Hall all that more outrageous, she put something "on the record" and made it citable without EVER having heard the other side.

A judge simply dismisses a case due to lack of jursdiction with no side order of fries, maybe a legal mind here can find a situation where a case hasnt been heard and the judge declines to hear it based on jurisdictional grounds, dismisses the case for jurisdiction but then adds in his/her ruling some comments on what he/she thinks her ruling might have been, or his her opionion of the participants or situation before the defendant presents their argument and evidence......

Very odd, and once again something the attorney general should look into. If my understanding is correct the BCHRC and CHRC can use Halls comments to buttress their own decision and Hall effectively told them to find them guilty or they had better come up with a strong argument over hers as to why they shouldnt be....the proverbial deck has been stacked. Please tell me my analysis has a flaw, if not then this case is already done and the rogers lawyers better start preparing the appeal papers now.

Kate McMillan: I am sort of shocked that you missed a negative story. The fishery off the coast of California, both commercial and recreational, will be closed this summer. They are anticipating the worst returns in...wait for it Kate...history. Does that sound like more settled science to you Kate? Where is your coverage, please?

Eskimo:

Some great comments.

I too ask where is this Conservative Government?

They should have reined in this HRC litigious monster years ago. If not the main author of this Inquisition . Seems like most of these HRC workers are so insulated from reality & have been so conditioned by Marxism they have forgotten the basic rules of society in favor of an ideology based on Utopian nonsense laced with a purge mindset. While certain people make a livelihood persecuting any who disagree to keep the meat grinder alive. For money if not a pseudo-legitimacy. Innocence is an illusion to these pea piker’s of delusion. They in effect have made whole sections of this Country into tribes based on race, sex, religion, sexuality & skin color by their laws in the name of equality or diversification. More marks to hook.

Its totalitarian, with its victims already condemned for the ego's of this big brother fraternity from hell with its enablers under the soft, socialist tainted belly of the legitimate rule of law. Time we brought in real democratic exterminators of totalitarian crush these quasi- witch hunters to combat this plague of pests. Their an infestation that cannot live in concord with true Representative Democracy.

Besides I am pretty sure the US will invade if these nuts continue trying to make this the new Soviet Union. Let the exalted members of these kangaroo courts found out what the inside of Gitmo is really about. These self proclaimed Pharaohs who would be god kings, could use a little humiliation after what they have done to others in the name of this sick mentality. They should hold these tribunals (more star trek terminology by the boomers) in a rubber room. Just an opinion.

I am glad this is in a real court, but of course the main weasel who has friends & knows the system is to frightened to have HIS life opened up to ridicule or exposure ( after his actions would you?). Something this bigot has never felt in reality but celebrated in others, whom he has done this too with monetary reward, only icing on the buffet of self rightious meglomania. This time he may end up paying.

Cowards who darken the night with fetid plans based in humiliation, mockery & eventualy punery for all who do not agree with the god kings of phoney multiculturalism. Shill for hire & evil.

Maudlin,

Ever heard of over-fishing? La Nina?

Either is as likely as climate change but there is only one conclusion you will draw. That alone tells the tale.

Hey Maudlin, you twit.... did the Canadian cod fishery get whacked because of that mythical global warming you idiots believe in, or because our fisheries were greedy and almost wiped the species out? Human stupidity comes in many forms. Blaming every disaster on the myth of global warming is one of those forms. You guys just make me wonder how inept our institutions of learning have become - it seems critical thinking (or thinking in general) is becoming a lost art. At least you leftards "feel good" about your precious superiority over us knuckledraggers. Be thankful for those of us who challenge stupidity - it'll save your freedom and your a$$ some day.

I thought this was Kates blog, if Maudlin want to cover the story START YOUR OWN BLOG! I bet you wont get the traffic Kate gets.

He has one, Free. Its boring. And as you might imagine, stupid.

Does that mean he's "trolling" for fish... er... hits!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Be nice the only place Johnny can find people to converse with is here in Kate's blog, gotta love the free speech loving lass. Besides sucking on an exhaust pipe to test the results of global warming on one's self isn't the brightest idea I've heard of but the followers of Global Warming aren't that bright to begin with. Go back to sucking tail pipes Johnny.

Regarding MCC, first bravo for speaking the hard truth. Second I believe this organization represents the majority of Muslims in Canada, not the Political Islamist who follow Sharia Law and all the other seven century crap. Political Islamist are the minority Muslims that never shut up with their victim crappolla.

Bravo to MCC for bitch slapping the HRC back into reality.

Johnny, feel free to liquidate your assets, and send the net in a money order to the Chinese. If you can still afford a lightbulb, you can illuminate it guilt-free with the carbon credits you just purchased. This will also bring the salmon back. Best wishes.

"I guess that makes me racist against Ontario.(what ever that is suppose to mean)"

It means you're stupid. Are you aware the complainants against ezra levant are in Alberta? Or are you just that ignorant?

Shaken

You have it all wrong. Leftards want to spend your money on carbon credits( not mention everything else they can not get for themselves) because you've obviously acquired your assets on the backs of those who didn't work for it.

As for you John

If you really wanted to stop globull warming you could just club a seal or shoot a gopher. The over p[population of these animals are causing harm to our environment not to mention the carbon footprint those little bastards exhale.

I have noticed over the last year that you can not find anyone to support the GW BS in a person to person conversation. I'm not saying that they do not believe it, they are just too embarrassed to advertise their intellectual laziness. That is right John, I doubt you have the balls to stand up in a room and spew your BS.

One of the really irratating things that is constantly overlooked on the Islam topic is that whether moderate or fanatical, Muslims represent less than 2% of the population. Why do they collectively take up so much of the media and general conversation? There's Muslim Congresses, Supreme Muslim Councils, Muslim Conferences, Islamic this and Sharia that. All squaking, demanding, bickering and fighting.

Can you imagine how unbearable it would be if they ever achieved say 3 or 4% of the population? Enough already.

My head hurts...the MCC is crapping on the OHRC for supporting Islamism, and its efforts to impose censorship; the Canadian Jewish Congress is SUPPORTING the OHRC and its aforementioned efforts.
Whatever happened to 'the enemy of my enemy'?
Should I send my contribution to the MCC next time the CJC sends me a donation request...?

Islam is an immature faith. Christianity went through its phase of 'if they don't believe what we do we must kill them'. Back then it was called the Crusades. Then it was 'we must torture heretics to make them realize the grace of God'. They called that the Inquisition. Point is, we're past that now, and Christianity, whatever form it takes, is comfortable in its skin. If a Christian today proposed a new crusade or inquisition, they'd be shut down in a heartbeat by other Christians. We won't abide violent fanatics in our midst.

Please don't rail against me with talk of the current missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Using the word 'crusade' to describe them is disingenuous.

Until moderate Muslims are willing to stand up as one to the minority among them who are violent fanatics, there will be no progress made against Islamic terrorism.

The statement by the MCC is laudable, but its a drop in the bucket compared to what is needed from them and other moderates in their faith.

In short, until Islam grows up, the fanatics will define the faith.

Islam is an immature faith. Christianity went through its phase of 'if they don't believe what we do we must kill them'. Back then it was called the Crusades. Then it was 'we must torture heretics to make them realize the grace of God'. They called that the Inquisition. Point is, we're past that now, and Christianity, whatever form it takes, is comfortable in its skin. If a Christian today proposed a new crusade or inquisition, they'd be shut down in a heartbeat by other Christians. We won't abide violent fanatics in our midst.

Please don't rail against me with talk of the current missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Using the word 'crusade' to describe them is disingenuous.

Until moderate Muslims are willing to stand up as one to the minority among them who are violent fanatics, there will be no progress made against Islamic terrorism.

The statement by the MCC is laudable, but its a drop in the bucket compared to what is needed from them and other moderates in their faith.

In short, until Islam grows up, the fanatics will define the faith.

OHRC is generally left wing, so they want to back the correct things and believe in being encouraging any identifiable victim group.

The CJC is left wing and therefore likes regulation and thinks this is the best way to stop anti semitism, as opposed to some other Jewish advocacy groups which are more cognizant and become aware that being in a free society is better protection.

The CIC is "conservative" by religous and community standards but wants to further its power and influence, which means shutting down speech. By happenstance the thing that looks most familiar to them, using state power for religous reasons, is being supplied by secular leftists.

The MCC would generally be a left wing organization, they would find little in common with most other things on this board. \but they are quasi secular but definitely western....more, if this is possible, traditional leftists. the kind you would have found in this country in the 50's and 60's....more concerned about freedoms and throwing off traditional holdbacks to society, like the quebec anti clerical movement in the 50's and 60's.

Lots of competeing agendas. I like the MCC because I know where they are coming from and they arent about to impose anything on me....if you were discussing taxation levels and social programs with Tarek Fatah you might find he sounds like the NDP.....but on this core issue there is common ground

\i worry about today's NDP and left wing in \western Civilization since, unlike before, I dont think there is much common ground....when they reject core tenents of what has made us what we are.....essentially they are self hating western liberals.

These guys need names on the shirts so we can remember what team they pay on ;->

"Can you imagine how unbearable it would be if they ever achieved say 3 or 4% of the population? Enough already."

I think the reason there is disproportionate coverage is because that small % of people cause a disproportionate amount of terror.

For example someone like you may say "Why is there such a disproportionate number of Aboriginals in Canadian jails or Blacks in American jails with respect to their portion of the population?"

Someone like me would answer "Because they commit a disproportionate number of crimes, could you imagine if they could cut down the number of crimes to their proportional representations how much money tax payers would save on justice".

Then I guess you would say "social injustice, victimization, racism blah blah blah..."

Jon,

"someone like you" who exactly?

eskimo ?

someone standing on a corner with a sandwich board reading "the end is neigh" ?

that would be at Woodbine i reckon...?