Moral Equivalence takes the form of a Klein Bottle.

Well...we have been waiting for this in Canada. Let the games begin indeed!
Wonder how the trudeau open-minded multicultural fanatics will handle this when it gets here.Dalton would reccommend seperate schools in Ontario..

oh, wait...

Ahhhhhhhh, so how are the left going to handle that when it happens in Canada? Sure the hezzasshole and hamass terrorist love it when the left come out and support them at their rallies, but the left mistake this for islam embracing them, accepting them. There is no such thing as tolerance in islam. This is going to get very interesting. The days of the left kicking the shit out of the christians for sport will come to an end, when they are looking at the christians to defend their right to exist.

You boys 'n girls ever notice how they never have a Gay Pride Day parade in Rexdale?

Why is that, do you think?

Important safety tip for you gay kids out there, Gay Rights is a Liberal "cause". Muslims are a Liberal "voting block". Liberals are known for tossing causes under the bus if they think it will sway a voting block to their side.

'Nuff said.

Anyone watch CBC 2 night ago. They had a story about a cartoonist, Can't remember his name, but during the piece they repeatedly showed his cartoon of a priest with a pig face holding a young alter boy. Talk about offensive to Christians.

At any rate they showed it several times during the program. When it came time to show the the famous Dutch Muslim cartoons the CBC blanked them out.

How's that for even handed reporting by the CBC. Christians are easy to beat up on as they won't do anything but turn the other cheek, but on the other hand the MSM is terrified of the violent nature of Islam and and bend over backwards to be politically polite in the name of being tolerant.

Wait till Islam demands that we remove any offensive materials from our schools and other institutions.... Do you think our Liberal movement who were quick to pounce on Christian beliefs and ethics do the same with Islam...I think not.

They'll knuckle under as they will be terrified of violent repercussions.

What if islam and the militant christians hook up and take on the left, form an alliance. The militant christians could use islam as a shield to take out the left. The left really couldn't say anything, that would be intolerance. I don't doubt that has went through the hierarchy of few militant christians minds and the mullah monarchies. Differnt gods, but common goals.

This revelation begs the question as to why the next international gay pride day parade is not held in Dubai?

Parade where it has the most impact

Now watch for Duffy to claim the reason those gay MP's aren't coming out is because of the knuckledragging Muslims.

Revolutions eat their children. There was common cause between many of these extreme left groups, to go after conservatives/libertarians and the like, which they have successfully done. Now they will start going after one another. As bluetech says, let the games begin.

The left has been telling us for years now,

"Ask yourself, what have we done to Muslims that they would want to commit acts of terror against us?"

Well my dear leftists,
I'm saying to you,

"Ask yourself, what have you done to Muslims that they would make you remove same sex books from schools?"

Maybe You did not do enough appeasement?
Maybe You were not subservient enough?

Two obscure schools out of about 110 in the city of Bristol alone. Did anyone even do research on this?

Friend of the USA, did the left actually ask that question, "Ask yourself, what have we done to Muslims that they would want to commit acts of terror against us?"

It was the left that brought this hatred of us on, with their demands of everything islam sees as decadent.

Islam is totally retarded as an ideology. It is a sick and twisted love relationship the left and islam share.

Well anon if one Christian parent objected at one school in Canada what would the headlines be at the CBC?or TOR Star?
Numbers are irrelevant at this point.

The lefties should see this as an opportunity to harmonize these special interest groups, starting with a new CBC series:

"Little Gay Mosque on the Prairie."

Anon, give allah an inch, and he will slit your throat.

Two obscure schools? It has to start somewhere doesn't it? If islam can change the laws of the land to accomodate two public schools, islam can change it for 10000.

Talking of appeasing muslims,
take a look at this, from the Dailymail.co.uk 5th April 2008

... ... ...

Muslim is spared a speeding ban so he can drive between his two wives

When it comes to avoiding a ban for speeding, the courts hear every excuse in the book.

But yesterday one motorist offered what must be a unique reason why he should keep his licence.

Mohammed Anwar said a ban would make it difficult to commute between his two wives and fulfil his matrimonial duties.

His lawyer told a Scottish court the Muslim restaurant owner has one wife in Motherwell and another in Glasgow - he is allowed up to four under his religion - and sleeps with them on alternate nights.

He also needed his driving licence to run his restaurant in Falkirk, Stirlingshire.

Airdrie Sheriff Court had heard that Anwar was caught driving at 64mph in a 30mph zone in Glasgow, fast enough to qualify for instant disqualification.

Anwar admitted the offence, but Sheriff John C. Morris accepted his plea not to be banned and allowed him to keep his licence.

Instead, he was fined £200 and given six penalty points...

... ... ...

I've got to hand it to Muslims on this one, they get the job done. Same sex books are not appropriate for grade schoolers to begin with. What's a normal second grader supposed to do with "Heather Has Two Mommies", for God's sake?

I doubt there will be any groundswell of lasting anger directed at the Muslims by the gay community. They'll forget soon and be back to their default position that conservative Christians and Karl Rove are their tyrannical oppressors.

What a pointless existence one must live to find this story important enough to justify a world view.

anon hasn't only been hiding under a bridge...it has been hiding in a dungeon for 30 years.
Welcome to the real world anon...things are even darker than the dungeon sometimes...but you wouldn't know that would you?

"What a pointless existence one must live" to troll this site just to hurl insults.

Hopefully you're getting paid to do it.

DAMN I guess I'm a knuckle-dragging atheist, but at least I’m upright and not slithering on my belly.

Gee, and all this time all the Christians had to do was behead a few reporters, politicians and filmakers to get what they wanted...

Once again, I feel a cold chill down my spine when I read how Muslms are allowed to control any aspect of Western culture they choose and how we continue to comply.

Ironically, homophobia is such a hypocritical position for Muslimes to take. I understand that many young Muslim men practise homosexuality before marriage in the absence of the availability of willing Muslim women.

And, wasn't Yasser Arafat purported to be homosexual?

the chickens people, yes the chickens, are comin' home to roost

In other news, angry Muslim fundamentalists achieve what Christians have been trying to do for the last decade - and Christers chastise them for it!

Mental pretzels, indeed.

It will be interesting to watch the progressives attempt to "tolerate the intolerance" among their core supporters: gays/Muslims, feminists/polygamists, religious immigrants/strong secularists, environmentalists/Ontario workers in the auto industry, etc. Whose interests will get thrown off the Liberal island first. The ultimate game of progressive survival.

Shaken: Moral equivalence has one surface?

Anon,

Before you run too far with your Mental Pretzel jibe, I suggest you realize that you missed the point.

And there is more, I found this interesting little gem about Louis Arbour:

http://tinyurl.com/68wwb7

Here is what Bernie Farber of the CJC had to say about her:

"Jews were shocked by the decision[to name her International Criminal Court war crimes prosecutor], adds Bernie Farber, community relations director for the Canadian Jewish Congress. "Her ruling made it virtually impossible for the Crown to get a conviction and brought war crimes trials in this country to a grinding halt. It is ironic," says Farber, "that this is the person the United Nations has chosen to prosecute war crimes."

In other news, angry Muslim fundamentalists achieve what Christians have been trying to do for the last decade - and Christers chastise them for it!

Actually, jackass, we are cheering them on. They may be broken clocks, but they are correct every so often.

anon

Taliban Jackass figures that the West should sit down and talk peace with the Taliban.
The muslems are just proving to the left that violence does solve everything and the progressives are more than willing to cave into thier demands.

Obama will rescue our souls when all he has to do is just talk. Oh yes we can.

Wow, the irony of this almost makes one's jaw drop. Well done you wascally liberals!

I say bravo to the Muslims on this one. Way to go.

We are now getting down to the hierarchy of victimness. People who play victim politics are morons because at the top of the hierarchy is a G*D Da*n dog and cat. After that comes race, then sexual orientation and then gender. I like to equate the political left to Pizza the Hut from Space Balls, the left will inevitably eat itself.

For proof of this you need just look at the upcoming election in the US in November. I will go on record and predict not that the J.McCain will win. Someone will be alienated by whom ever the Super delegates give the Dem nomination too. If Obama gets it many moderate women will move right and vote GOP, and if Billery gets the nomination (my prediction) black turnout at the polls will be extremely low hurting the total Dem turnout.

This is just TOO delicious if you're into survivalist black comedy as I am.

A while back received a e-mail from one friend1, with cc to mutual friend2, about the removal of Holocaust studies from the UK curriculum. Friend2 e-mailed back sometime later with his contemptuous correction via Snopes, viz., it was only one school, and demanded friend1 send a clarification to his distribution list. Friend2 is really a hard-left anti-Semite whose views are barely distinguishable from Ahmadeinejad's, but who now fashions himself a classical liberal after I sent him F.A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom, which, alas, (palm heel to forehead) put him on the dead-end Road to Ron Paul.

SO, you can well imagine my glee in forwarding this!
I'm off for a jog and a good tee hee all the way home.
Rich!

Nobody can question the sincerity of a Muslim's belief.

What's at question is a self-righteous group within Islam who play God by taking it upon themselves the literal execution of those who disagree with their viewpoint.

In that context, it is western atheists and secularists who have most to fear from Islamic extremists, since they would not enjoy the same tolerance afforded them by Christian thought.

Get with the leftard program if a Christian demanded the books be removed they'd be jailed in England for spreading hatred. Now Muslim are free to espouse their hatred of homosexuality under the guise of "Freedom of Religion" as long as Christians aren't homophobic all is right with the leftard brain. They aren't smart enough to understand their beloved Homosexual Cause is under attack by Political Islam thus they stand there with the blanket stare they have when their ideology is under attack. They are dumber than a sack of hammers, when Sharia Law reigns supreme in Eurabia and the Islamists start catapulting homosexuals off the Cliffs of Dover the left will awaken and expect us to fight and give our lives to defend the right of "Equality". As per the norm the socialist are a day late and a dollar short and dumber than a sack of hammers.

I did enjoy laughing at anon though, see I told you the socialist aren't that bright.

Sacred cows have collided. Gay rights versus Islam. On what principle should this conflict be resolved? Whereas libs would not hesitate for a second to cry "intolerance" in the face of Christian parents objecting to same sex teaching materials, liberal hysterics notwithstanding, the libs know in their heart of hearts that the Christian parents are law-abiding and gentle folk who will not offer any direct threat to the libs' health or well being. The members of the "religion of peace" however have an ace up their sleeve, as Theo Van Gogh found out and as Salman Rushdie and Ayan Hirsi Ali know all too well and as libs in their heart of hearts also know. Simply put, offend them and they'll kill you. Notwithstanding liberal protestations to the contrary actions speak louder than words and in playing the game of identity politics liberal "principles" have arrived at their natural redux: might makes right.

Rose

I wouldn’t be in a hurry saying the socialist are dumber than a sack of hammers. It’s always been the plan of the Gramscian Marxist to use radical gay rights and radical feminism to destroy the pillars of western Christian society. The Marxist left has found a new ally in there cause. The hard core Marxist will gladly throw the gays over the Dover cliffs when they have no further use of them.

There was an in incident in England a while back where there was a demonstration carried out by some communist party members. In that demonstration there were gays and Moslems. The Moslems turned on the gays and the other communist members turned on the gays as well with their Moslem comrades. I can’t find the link.

I don't know what to think -- all I know is my knuckles are pretty sore and I don't know why!

Perhaps this whole Islamo/Left fascism will sort itself out if the rest of us goad them on and get out of the way.

"As per the norm the socialist are a day late and a dollar short and dumber than a sack of hammers."

I'll ad that to my great sayings list. TY

I'm waiting for someone to "Warman" the Muzzies at the HRC .....

This really dumb. If Christians are told that their views have no place in the public discourse, how can the schools bow to Islam? Is there no sense of logic at work at all?

As a homosexual, I demand that the school not bow to Islam. It's a short road from this to homosexuals being killed in "honour killings."

Just to expand on foreign clout - in B.C and in Calgary hookah bars can remain smoking bars!! Governments hand out free needles for people to pump (illigal) foreign drugs into their veins. This is all very demoralizing for a society that has forgotten who we are and what we will tolerate. The PC's beat most tobacco smokers out of steam with 'guilt' based on junk science, yet, when it is a 'religion' of the east it is not to be questioned??? First Nation people in this country are PREVENTED from smoking tobacco even though it is THEIR tradition. What is wrong with this picture? Why madam, it is upside down!

"As a homosexual, I demand that the school not bow to Islam. It's a short road from this to homosexuals being killed in "honour killings.""

So the real question is when will gay people like yourself stand up to "gay interest" groups and demand that they get on the right side of the issues today instead of walking lock and step with political parties whom give you nothing but lip service, and buy your votes with meaningless BS that doesn't add up to squat when there are others who would exterminate you. Christians and some others on the right may have some differences of opinion with respect to some minor gay issues like marriage and donating blood; but, we are clearly the most tolerant bunch out their. The proof is in the pudding, gay rights have progressed much further in white dominated Christian countries than in other cultures. If you can dispute this please do.

Now before I get labeled as a homophobe, I would just like to mention that I say the same to women WRT the feminist movement and their two tier women's rights, or to African Americans who repeatedly vote Democrat completely disregarding that parties history of racism, or to environmentalists who think Torontards know what's best for the environment and chastise hunters and farmers who actually know something.

The "gay movement" has made their deal with the devil for the sake of some politically correct clout that in the end amounts to nothing, and alienating the very people who are compassionate to those who are different. Fortunately for you the Conservative party, small "c" conservatives and Christians will let bygones be bygones and accept you with open arms, that is the difference between a conservative and a socialist.

For the record I am an agnostic, so forget the Christian bashing.

There certainly IS logic at work here Kyla. Lemme lay it out for you.

Christians don't get squat from the Toronto school board because they are annoying Conservative voters.

Muslims, by contrast, are an important Liberal voting block.

If the two groups both ask for the same-sex books to be dropped from the curriculum, the Christians will be denounced as racist/bigot/homophobes, and the book will be quietly dropped to keep the Muslims happy. Gays get thrown under the bus when Muslims ask, Christians get blamed.

The logic is perfect.

Are we learning yet, Anon?

Yup, Phantom, the logic IS perfect. I salute you.

It's the tower of babel all everywhere all the time.

It's like the crescendo at the end of the Beatles "Day in the Life"

We are all waiting for that big ominous piano chord to hit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=558091&in_page_id=1770

Muslim sex offenders want to be spared from participating in treatment programs, because it is against their religion. But if they have to have longer jail sentences because they refused to participate in the treatment program, then they are being discriminated against!!!

Talk about having your cake and eating it too!

How many "edge of the wedge" situations do apologists for Islam like anon need? Muslims seem to have more "rights" than any other group in the western world. Their right to block homosexual teaching in elementary school is one that was not granted Christians.

Only one reason for this. It's not because anyone actually respect their religion. Its FEAR. And they increasingly know it. And they will use it. Until someone stands up and says "enough is enough".

Anon, only a mental midgetnot would view this as a 'mental pretzel'. But you know that.

The objective is not at issue. There is general agreement, both arising from deeply held moral conviction. Nothing wrong with either position. They are not in conflict.

But the wormy double standard of those who proclaim to uphold 'gay rights' simultaneously laughable and dispicable.