March 28, 2008

Y2Kyoto: I Miss The Arctic Ice Cap

"Thick ice hinders controversial seal hunt."

Posted by Kate at March 28, 2008 7:09 PM

Kate, it's no use, they're not going to notice. The Goreians and Suzukiites are too busy learning how to operate light switches in preparation for earthhour.

Posted by: Zip at March 28, 2008 7:23 PM

Well here we go again...environmental activists publishing photos of the "cute baby seals" aka "whitecoats", when they know full well that they are no longer permitted to be hunted. Cute? Absolutely. They are very cute. Personally, I wouldn't be interested in participating in the seal hunt. But I'm not inclined to work in an abattoir either. It's just not my preference. I eat meat, and enjoy it. But that doesn't make me a hypocrite like the environmentalists...

Posted by: Bruce at March 28, 2008 7:38 PM

Flipper pie is going to be expensive this year...

It should be noted that floe thickness is very dependent on wind conditions. Onshore winds can rapidly pack the ice into several layers thick while only a few hours of offshore winds will disspate the ice in to patchy open-ice conditions.

Thus limiting comments on the conditions existing where the seal herds have congregated and then extrapolating them to apply to the overall volume of this season's ice production is folly for either the pro- or anti- AGW crowd.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at March 28, 2008 9:37 PM

OT sorry

Haten yo brotha of anotha color sure buys alota square footage ya all

Posted by: Shawn at March 28, 2008 9:43 PM

LOL - a link to a seal hunting story from small dead animals...

Posted by: Rudester7 at March 28, 2008 10:50 PM

I'm curious.When the ecoweenies have us all living back in caves and mud huts,and big,bad oil is shut down,just what are we going to clothe ourselves with? I don't know about the econuts,but I'll take that seal and/or polar bear skin over their twig and leaves outfits,especially at -50 with the windchill!!

Posted by: Justthinkin at March 28, 2008 11:04 PM

Um... For those who don't get it, the folks who are whining about the Ice caps melting due to AGW are the same folks who now have their anti-sealing efforts hindered (or helped, depending on how you look at it) by thick ice...

Posted by: Richard Evans at March 29, 2008 12:14 AM

I love my genuine saskatchewan sealskin boots, nice warm comfy fur

Posted by: kelly at March 29, 2008 1:14 AM

Super Dave kelly Osborn is that you????

Posted by: Joe at March 29, 2008 1:59 AM

Were I a rancher, or a poultry producer, or a hunter of game for the smaller boutique markets, I would be well and truly pissed with the seal hunters.

In this day and age with You Tube and all, you simply can't prevent pictures of the seal hunt landing in front of young teenagers, and all it means is that an increasing number will turn away from eating meat. I am constantly surprised by the number of youngsters I meet who are at least partial vegetarians in some fashion or another.

The irony in all of this is that the ultimate winners from the seal hunt will be organic producers, cattlemen who exclusively grass feed, and so forth. Some would argue that's not a bad thing.

The fact that the seal hunters and the department of fisheries still continue to think that a mass slaughtering of seal pups for all to see will have no effect on the public attitude shows you how out of touch they are. They really are living in the last century, maybe even the 1800's.

It always stuns me to see just how unbelievably out of touch the government can sometimes be in recognizing trends.

The seal hunt is quite possibly one of the dumbest things that occurs in Canada each year, no matter which lens you view it through.

The silly comments here about flipper pie etc. really miss the point entirely. The hunt is in short something that is bad for anyone who is in the business of farming and selling animal products, except possibly those who are in the organic business.

The impact won't necessarily be immediate, but it is real and it will grow with time.

If ever there was case of cutting off your nose to spite your face the seal hunt has to be it.

Posted by: TJ at March 29, 2008 2:05 AM

tj seal hunting has been a way of life for many many generations, culling the herd is essential for future generations of hunters and seals, it is definitely not a trend. organic? get real bud, there's no pesticides out there where the hunt is.

Posted by: kelly at March 29, 2008 2:34 AM

...think that a mass slaughtering of seal pups...

Seals are 'cute', so some people anthropomorphise animals while they indoctrinate their children into the pursuit of rhetoric, appreciation of superficial appearances and meaningless gestures.

Me, I scratch sometimes and kill billions of lifeforms every day without a smidgeon of guilt. After all, it was me or them and they lost.

I also kick puppies when given the chance.

Posted by: PiperPaul at March 29, 2008 4:05 AM

Aren't seals about as "organic as we can get? They are free range, and pesticide and fertilizer free.

Posted by: minuteman at March 29, 2008 6:52 AM

I see TJ's point and I believe it is a valid point, but...

The problem lies NOT with the sealers, but with the enviroweenies. The seals are NOT killed for all to see, the enviroweenies are the ones taking the pictures and distributing them...the same outcry would happen if the enviroweenies were permitted to film in the killing room at abbatoirs. Animals are killed for our use every minute of every day (if not every second), the seals are just another bunch of animals and the only difference is that they're cute.

If we let the enviroweenies win, this will only embolden them and we will have to fight them at the abbatoirs next. So, the ice floes are a carnivore's Afghanistan and Iraq, to the weenies Islam.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2008 7:12 AM

5 million seals? Eating 2-3 fish per day, every day. Let's see - that's 10 million per day, and 3.65 BILLION per year. And we wonder why fish stocks are so depleted?

Posted by: KevinB at March 29, 2008 7:47 AM

KevinB: but fish are not cute and fuzzy and cuddly, so stop worrying about them.

For me, I have to be concerned about the innocent billions (trillions? quadrillions? quintillions?) of plankton that die needlessly each day.

Save the Plankton!

Posted by: PiperPaul at March 29, 2008 8:37 AM

Don't the environmentalists realize that publishing pictures of the seals being slaughtered could lead to a murderous backlash?

The UN should denounce the publishing of these pictures and video, and they should be banned.

Posted by: Richard Ball at March 29, 2008 8:48 AM

KevinB, if you want an idea of what animal life was like in the St Lawrence gulf just a short time ago read Farley Mowat's Sea of Slaughter. This area abounded with whales, polar bears, walruses, cod 8 feet long, auks. Every river was a salmon stream. My buddy's dad, a great Newfie guy, fished from dorys and could fill it by jigging with just a few cod. When he quit several years ago Caleb told me the fish are now so small its hardly worth going out.

All this incredibly rich bird,animal and sea life is almost all gone now. When huge bottom trawlers destroyed the cod spawning grounds that was the end. This 500 year sustainable industry decimated that rich fishing ground through pure greed and now there is almost nothing left. This fertile gulf is approaching a desert for life.

I am not trying to be melodramatic but this is now reality just take a look at our west coast where they are taking the last great herring stocks that so many other species like the salmon, seals and orcas depend on. Please don't blame the seals that have been thriving there for millions of years for declining fish stocks, its the 2 legged animal that is the culprit.

Posted by: Dave at March 29, 2008 10:11 AM

I'm with you on this, Dave. Having raised river otters, I am quite familiar with the faux claims that they 'wipe out all the fish.' This is a Huge problem (anyone recall the Roy Rogers films, where the salmon were literally leaping by the thousands?) BUT:

If not us, expect Russia, or Japan, or even China, to step in and do it anyway.

One could almost Hope for this Dalton Minimum :( It would reduce the human population and take some of the pressure of the world's food supplies.

Posted by: otter at March 29, 2008 10:18 AM

The Inuit call Farley Mowat "Hardly Knowzit".

Posted by: ol hoss at March 29, 2008 10:38 AM

Whenever my wife complains about the ickiness or heartlessness of hunting or anything of the sort, I ask her:

What percentage of animals die peacefuly and painlessly in the wild?

Suddenly, a bullet between the ribs doesn't sound like such a bad option for an animal.

Posted by: Yukon Gold at March 29, 2008 10:44 AM

Oh, the drama. As far as the big picture is concerned, we are but a speck in time. Nature ALWAYS renews itself, and unless fished to extinction, all fish stocks will eventually recover.

Let them hunt their seals, and be done with it.

If moonbats can accept wife beating and female circumcision as respectable cultural traditions, they should be able to accept a way of life that has been going on for nearly five centuries!

Posted by: kingstonlad at March 29, 2008 11:00 AM

They'll be celebrating at PETA tonight! Three sealers drowned.

Posted by: dmorris at March 29, 2008 11:45 AM

Can't get to the seals because of thick ice.
Now this must be a conundrum for the eco-freaks. Happy that it's slowing down the seal hunt but irritated because word is out that the ice is heavier than it has been in 30 years.

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at March 29, 2008 3:22 PM

I sure would like to see those animal activists get topo close and get themselves bit by one of those little seals

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at March 30, 2008 10:09 PM