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March 25, 2008

Reader Tips (Bumped!)

Who said what?

He said what? Yes, he did. He said it well, too.

Jason - What the hell is wrong with you?

ED NOTE: As this post pertains to the continuing controversy created by pesky "freespeechers" (that's a perjorative, by the way), it's only fair to acknowledge that in the wake of my comments of Sunday, about 20 of the best and brightest the Canadian leftosphere has to offer linked to SDA in condemnation. (I won't name you all for fear of leaving someone out.)

After weighing their arguments, my traffic meter remained largely unmoved.

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Footnote:
[1] Thus elevating my status to that of documented "global warming holocaust denier". I guess that means new business cards.

Update: BINGO!

(Tips thread open.)

Final Update: - and still more on "fake outrage".

The first thing that strikes me are the number of critics (here's one) who believe that a statement about National Socialism's relationship to the German state in the context of the holocaust constitutes an "analogy".

The second point is that I wasn't offering an "argument", but a simple statement of fact that should be self-evident.

When a comment serves as little more than preface to a featured quote, it shouldn't require a short history of WW2 history or personal disclaimer to prevent "confusion" in the mind of the reader. Readers that easily confused should take on gentler topics. (See my first point).

There exists a terminology for the phenomenon of attempting to communicate in so complete a manner as to prevent all accidents of misinterpretation.

It's known as "writing for stupid people."

So, the conclusion is this (and my advice to bloggers in general): Set a minimum threshold such as "understands the definition of analogy" before deciding whether or not a critic is worthy of your response.

Now, as you were.

Posted by Kate at March 25, 2008 1:20 PM
Comments

Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to SDA Late Nite Radio. Tonight, for your delectation, here's Robert Palmer and his band performing Looking for Clues:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrBuMJ6C97I

Posted by: Vitruvius at March 25, 2008 1:33 AM

This John Tierney guy at the New York Times just may be on to something !!

[“Getting the prices right will not create the right behavior if people do not associate their behavior with the relevant costs,” says Dr. Thaler, a professor of behavioral science and economics. “When I turn the thermostat down on my A-C, I only vaguely know how much that costs me. If the thermostat were programmed to tell you immediately how much you are spending, the effect would be much more powerful.”

It would be still more powerful, he and Mr. Sunstein suggest, if you knew how your energy consumption compared with the social norm. A study in California showed that when the monthly electric bill listed the average consumption in the neighborhood, the people in above-average households significantly decreased their consumption.

Switching to a Prius will not undo the effects of frequent air travel. A couple of international trips can be worse for your carbon footprint than driving a Hummer for a year. If the delegates to future conferences on climate change are expected to wear illuminated symbols of their energy consumption, they won’t be visiting any more spots like Bali.] JT

The embarrasment emminating from the Gores and Suzukis of the world would be glowing like a red beacon !!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/science/25tier.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Posted by: ron in kelowna at March 25, 2008 1:50 AM

"There is no valid reason for using Windows"

http://www.osnews.com/thread?306508

Posted by: xiat at March 25, 2008 1:54 AM

Mr. Kay's essay is excellent. "[...] he is a bigot [...] there is only one way to get people to support a despised outcast such as Lemire — and that is to turn him into a martyr for a larger principle — in this case, the principle that Canadians should be able to express themselves without subjecting their opinions to the judgment of heresy-sniffing bureaucrats".

There is an important case in the Canadian commons coming up on this matter today. It is, I think, to some degree odious to have to take the side of a scoundrel in a matter such as this; fortunately we have the words of H. L. Mencken, who reminds us:

"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."

Thus it is that case that we demand freedom of speech for Lemire not because we agree with his prescriptions as to who is an aszhole, we demand freedom of speech for all so that we may brand him as an aszhole, without having to take out a permit from the department of extortion of everything.

Over hill, over dale, steady on, soldiers of the free human spirit brigade.

Posted by: Vitruvius at March 25, 2008 1:58 AM

"Jason - What the hell is wrong with you?"

My thoughts exactly.

Posted by: Griff at March 25, 2008 2:20 AM

One might say that the Internet is the cyber global village.

Every village has it's idiot.

The our intenet has two of them, Jason Cherniak and Warren Kinsella.

The entertainment value from those those two is priceless.

And to think we used to have to go to the movies for this level of comedy.

Posted by: John West at March 25, 2008 2:42 AM

Thanks for the link Kate; it's much appreciated. I usually get 100 hits per month, not hour!

Cheers,
Chris

Posted by: Chris Vanoostveen at March 25, 2008 2:45 AM

Remind me to never piss Mr. George off. Jason will never grow hair again!!

Posted by: Pat at March 25, 2008 3:17 AM

Well of course you are right Kate "The Nazis didn't carry out the Holocaust."

This happened mainly because of the sin known as INDIFFERENCE.

In short, you just need enough bad people in high places and enough indifference from the rest and all HELL breaks loose. Because as we have learned, life can get extremely cheap on this side of heaven. All you need to do is stop giving a tinker's damn.

I do have to laugh at the apoplectic protestations from the leftosphere, who seem to be too indolent to get out of the ideological frame of reference for 30 seconds, to apprehend some facts.

It is somewhat ironic that the Nazi hunter WK can scour the washrooms of the nation for ideologues, but can't recognize his own ideological blinkers in support of the CHRC "thought police".

The whole purpose of freedom of expression is to be able to express thought even if others find it offensive. Everyone is free to behave like a jackass, this does not mean everyone else has to approve of their expression.

In short, in a grown up democracy one should have no need for government tinkering with one's voice box.

If some leftist clowns want to get up on a soapbox and deliver warm nostrums on the benefits of Stalinism/Communism notwithstanding several hundred million dead and a few odd Tibetans; we should afford them the right to make complete asses of themselves.

All the socialists should be mounting the ramparts to defend the denunciation and shooting of Tibetan monks; because after all the State is worth more than any one mere individual.

Where are all those soothing voices pandering nostrums from the left on the grand treatment Tibetans are receiving from their Communist
benefactors?

Oh yes I forgot, they are defending freedom of expression by squelching it via section 13.1 of the CHR Act.

Gee I hope I didn't trip up your site meter Kate.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at March 25, 2008 3:38 AM

Well of course you are right Kate "The Nazis didn't carry out the Holocaust."

This happened mainly because of the sin known as INDIFFERENCE.

In short, you just need enough bad people in high places and enough indifference from the rest and all HELL breaks loose. Because as we have learned, life can get extremely cheap on this side of heaven. All you need to do is stop giving a tinker's damn.

I do have to laugh at the apoplectic protestations from the leftosphere, who seem to be too indolent to get out of the ideological frame of reference for 30 seconds, to apprehend some facts.

It is somewhat ironic that the Nazi hunter WK can scour the washrooms of the nation for ideologues, but can't recognize his own ideological blinkers in support of the CHRC "thought police".

The whole purpose of freedom of expression is to be able to express thought even if others find it offensive. Everyone is free to behave like a jackass, this does not mean everyone else has to approve of their expression.

In short, in a grown up democracy one should have no need for government tinkering with one's voice box.

If some leftist clowns want to get up on a soapbox and deliver warm nostrums on the benefits of Stalinism/Communism notwithstanding several hundred million dead and a few odd Tibetans; we should afford them the right to make complete asses of themselves.

All the socialists should be mounting the ramparts to defend the denunciation and shooting of Tibetan monks; because after all the State is worth more than any one mere individual.

Where are all those soothing voices pandering nostrums from the left on the grand treatment Tibetans are receiving from their Communist
benefactors?

Oh yes I forgot, they are defending freedom of expression by squelching it via section 13.1 of the CHR Act.

Gee I hope I didn't trip up your site meter Kate.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at March 25, 2008 3:39 AM

people who don't act to stop the evil they see happening are evil.

Posted by: old white guy at March 25, 2008 5:13 AM

Everyone who believes in freedom of speech are now nazi according to Kinswilsuya, and Jason. They have thrown that term around so much to try and control speech, that it is becoming meaningless.

These two weasels fear of Kate is something to behold. The more they fear and hate her, the more she is loved and respected by the thinking people.

Posted by: Honey Pot at March 25, 2008 5:18 AM

Everyone who believes in freedom of speech are now nazi according to Kinswilsuya, and Jason. They have thrown that term around so much to try and control speech, that it is becoming meaningless.

These two weasels fear of Kate is something to behold. The more they fear and hate her, the more she is loved and respected by the thinking people.

Posted by: Honey Pot at March 25, 2008 5:18 AM

Like Satan in the Old Testament, evil had many faces.

EVERYDAY MURDER
Nazi Atrocities, Committed by Ordinary People

By Georg Bönisch and Klaus Wiegrefe

From doctors to opera singers, teachers to truant schoolchildren, the extermination of European Jews was the work of roughly 200,000 ordinary Germans and their helpers. Years of research -- not yet complete -- reveal how sane members of a modern society committed murder for an evil regime.

Walter Mattner, a police secretary from Vienna, was there in October 1941 when 2,273 Jews were shot to death in Mogilyov in Belarus. He later wrote to his wife: "My hand was shaking a bit with the first cars. By the tenth car, I was aiming calmly and shooting dependably at the many women, children and babies. Bearing in mind that I have two babies at home, I knew that they would suffer exactly the same treatment, if not ten times as bad, at the hands of these hordes." After World War II, it was obvious to most observers that such acts could only have been committed by sadists and psychopaths, under orders from a handful of principal war criminals surrounding Adolf Hitler. It was a comforting way of looking at things, because it meant that ordinary people were not the real perpetrators.
PHOTO GALLERY: ORDINARY MASS MURDERERS
But the horrifying results of an opinion poll that the Americans conducted in their occupation zone in October 1945 could have raised doubts even then about the version of the story that blames everything on a few pathological criminals. Twenty percent of the respondents "agreed with Hitler's treatment of the Jews." Another 19 percent said that although they felt that his policies toward Jews were exaggerated, they were fundamentally correct.
The researchers found that the perpetrators included both committed Nazis and people who had nothing to do with the Nazis. The murderers and their assistants included Catholics and Protestants, the old and the young, people with double doctorates and poorly educated members of the working class. And the percentage of psychopaths was not higher than the average in society as a whole.

The number of perpetrators is now estimated at 200,000 Germans (and Austrians). They were police officers like Walter Mattner, concentration-camp personnel, members of the SS, or administrators. Another 200,000 Estonians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians and other foreigners also helped kill Jews, some because they were forced to do so and others voluntarily.
Crimes of Conviction, Crimes of Excess
Like Satan in the Old Testament, evil had many faces.
http://tinyurl.com/2p4ct7 (spiegel)

Posted by: maz2 at March 25, 2008 7:04 AM

Hahahahahaha. Thanks for the laugh to start off Tuesday, Kate. 20(?) of the best and brightest of the leftards? Well. I guess best if compared to Stalin and bright if compared to a match. As an aside, do ya think maybe all the leftards come to this neanderthal,knuckledragging,mouth breathing site to perhaps maybe try to get a hit or two at their pathetic sites? Ummmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Justthinkin at March 25, 2008 7:25 AM

I have always wondered why and how a lawyer could vigorously defend some of the most evil people ever charged with the most horrendous crimes imaginable knowing full well they were guilty.

Siding with Marc Lemire and his neo Nazi ilk against the HRC in this case gives me an inkling of the inner conflict they must feel.
On one hand I would like to shut them up and never hear another word from their racist mouths, but on the other hand it would mean denying people like Lavant and Steyn (and all of us for that matter) the right to their freedom of speech.

We cannot allow a bureaucratic thought police to control our every word or an Orwell's vision will become our reality.

Posted by: Largs at March 25, 2008 7:46 AM

Exactly Kate. As I've observed time after time, if you or say Mark Steyn or Michelle Malkin links to me, I get over 1000 visitors.

But Itty Bitty Lib or Kinsella or Cynic, maybe 50 to 100 each at the very high end.

My theory, based on lived experience, is that leftists often don't bother clicking through to "offending" links -- they just believe Lib's or Cynic's twisted spin on what I write or you write and take it from there.

But remember: THEY are the intellectually curious intellectuals! :-)

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at March 25, 2008 7:55 AM

Kathy: But remember: THEY are the intellectually curious intellectuals! :-)

Yes, but you mustn't forget, there is limited bandwidth allowed through to a lefty brain (due to the marxist dogma filter in place, it is possible to acquire one at your local university).

Thus, it is true that they are curious about everything intellectual, and they are just being efficient in not bothering to read/listen to any information which can't be of any real value!

Generally, this filter is really a safety device, as without it a lefty head tends to explode!


Posted by: Frenchie77 at March 25, 2008 8:12 AM

"Hi". Such a friendly, murderous greeting from a convert to Islam.
...-


"Moncton, Saudi Arabia

Out of the blue, I received an e-mail from Abdullah DeLancey (that's him, not me, to the left) of the new Moncton mosque.

It read, in full:

Hi,"
http://ezralevant.com/2008/03/moncton-saudi-arabia.html

Posted by: maz2 at March 25, 2008 8:15 AM

To the average leftist condemning the state is sacrilegous, it is somewhat like having sexual thoughts about your own mother.

Leftists see a powerful government, a state that controls everything as the perfect mother - the nanny state - which can make us all perfect little children.

In their warped mind, bad things happen to the state but the state is never bad.

Some leftists are just like some Muslims, if you dare blame their beloved almighty state then they want your head on a plate.

Posted by: Friend of USA at March 25, 2008 8:20 AM

Well my theory that the Liberals and the MSM are planning a "scandal a week" to overwhelm the voting public as to how the Conservative government is just as smarmy and scandal ridden as the Liberals and how voting for them will tear our party apart has been proven.

Today is Tuesday - here is the "scandal" for this week.


"PM's office can't spell Saskatchewan"

Posted by: Alberta Girl at March 25, 2008 8:32 AM

"how voting for them will tear our party apart has been proven."

Correction - "tear our country apart"

Posted by: Alberta Girl at March 25, 2008 8:34 AM

Leftists slobber over the State because they long to be the State.

Posted by: Richard Ball at March 25, 2008 8:36 AM

Here's Kinsella's devastating riposte to Jonathan Kay:

http://www.warrenkinsella.com/index.php?entry=entry080324-202013

Yes, we've reached the point where a self-proclaimed punk rocker chides a newspaper writer for not agreeing with the newspaper owner's opinions.

Posted by: Damian P. at March 25, 2008 9:05 AM

Hasn't everyone learned just soooooo much about the "average, run-of-the-mill Muslim" from watching Little Mosque on the Prairie? It's so refreshing to have their great sense of humour highlighted on that amazing CBC work of intellectual superiority spun from the minds of Leftist, reality challenged cloud dwellers.

Alberta Girl, I'm betting the Liberals have been spending this break time trolling for scandals and will come back with their little bags of bogus muck to toss. What else can they do while waiting for the implosion on the Leadership front?

Posted by: Liz J at March 25, 2008 9:17 AM

I think there's more to the phenomenon than just not clicking through links. I think it's as simple as a lack of readership. It's evident in the variety of commentors at most of their sites - while it's true that only a tiny minority of people reading an online forum actually post (same goes for email lists), when you check their comments threads, even those that generate 30 or more comments will often comprise of two or three individuals chattering back and forth.

I wonder if, as they scratch their heads over the traffic level here, they've ever considered that it is they who hold the fringe views, and this site that appeals to the more moderate majority?


Posted by: Kate at March 25, 2008 9:22 AM

Damien,

Warren plays it but doesnt live it. Tell me how a member of the establishment can be a punk?

But I am more interested in how the counter attack is worded. All the rhetorical guns are being fired,
- telling people that their grandfathers and uncles fought WWII only against Nazi's and not for democratic values (like freedom of Speech)
- Trying to drag in the owners of a newspaper in to exercise editorial oversight (their right as owners, but the lack of it should speak volumes about their committment)
- Saying freedom of speech is somehow radical, which speaks to the inate reactionary part of the argument
- guilt by association, you defend an undesirables rights, you are therefore as undesirable....somehow the self professed Christian missed a couple of Sunday sermons about this point, but then again it is all a buffet for these guys anyway. The picture thing is another example of this. Clearly with that picture he wants to continue his tar and feather act in the best tradition of valueless political theatre. Kind of like morning breakfast cereal, all calorie and no nutrition...Special K anyone?
- Intimating that accused have no right to counsel (odd for a lawyer) since anyone who defended them clearly is equally udeserving.

Warren is a smart guy. I actually like him and respect the tactical skills he brings to the table. If I needed an attack dog he would be on my short list of potential hires. But for a issues that require more than the glib and the flip then I dont think he would be the man for the job.

Unfortuantely the Frodo to his Gandalf is mr Cherniak. Frodo lacks the wisdom, training, temperment or IQ of the master.

Should be an interesting Tuesday.


Posted by: Stephen at March 25, 2008 9:26 AM

The best retort to the leftosphere is the truth; their blogs just don't matter.

Posted by: grok at March 25, 2008 9:35 AM

Low readerships explained -- while the right occupies itself with endless idle chatter, the left is busy being productive and creating the material and intellectual wealth of this nation.

(just kidding)

Posted by: Richard Ball at March 25, 2008 9:35 AM

Goodness me Kate they would never be able to get their little narrow minds to think like that.

Posted by: eliza at March 25, 2008 9:36 AM

I often wonder if the Jasons and Warrens of the world realize that most people agree with the intent of eliminating evil from our society just not everyone agrees with their methodology. I don't want the Nazi ideology spread in Canada. However the only safe guard I see against such evil is free speech. Having looked at our sordid past it became evident to me that you can't legislate morality and the attempt to do so simply gives evil the opportunity to pop up in places you didn't expect. In other words Jason's and Warren's methodolgy is likely to bring about Nazi behaviours not prevent them.

Posted by: Joe at March 25, 2008 9:37 AM

Of course what Jason is promoting is a Platonic ideal...giving him more credit than is probably needed.....the workers work, the guardians guard and the rulers rule....only those who have climbed out of the cave and can see beyond the mere illusions are fit to rule....power is "thrust upon them" by a wise people....so those is charge have the burden of ruling (do you think it is easy making priorities?) and do so reluctantly but the people submit to their will and guidance.

This is Jason's ideal and one can infer from Warren's latest statements his own....of course he is paid to say certain things so you can never be totally sure.....

The people willingly surrener their freedom to be guided by the rulers and protected by the guardians.

Sounds wonderful, where do I sign up?

Posted by: Stephen at March 25, 2008 9:57 AM

Re Cherniak and the Platonic Ideal ..

His desire to project himself into the role of Philosopher King is quite transparent!

Posted by: OMMAG at March 25, 2008 10:19 AM

Interesting how SDA traffic is higher on weekdays.

Jason and Warren are wrong. But Jason is clearly nuts, the way he is going on and on about this Nazi vs German state thing. What seems plainly obvious to me is somehow controversial - how did this guy pass the bar exams? Or did he?

Posted by: sf at March 25, 2008 10:20 AM

Dear Honey Pot: by the way, love that handle. Reminds me of the novel "Candy". Great read for a 14 year old. But that's not why I'm commenting here. I am here to respond to the notion that Kate is "loved and respected..."

Really?

Loved? Can you tell me what Kate has done here that is worthy of love, please? Worthy of hits, clearly. Just ask her, she will tell you and toss in the graphics to boot. Impressive.

Respect?

Maybe. I guess. I sure don't respect Kate, though, so I want it known that this respect deal is not quite universal yet. Kate has consistently made bad cause with this blog of hers. It's a clearinghouse for resentment and anger and just a whole shwack of ill will. Nothing she's done deserves love. No. I'm sure about that...

Well...wait a second...

Her painting of hockey masks may be worthy of love. But that's it. The rest is Kate serving Kate's ego. Hollow stuff. I'll bet Kate is lonely as hell.

Posted by: Johnny Maudlin at March 25, 2008 10:21 AM

I don't know about loved and respected being applicable to Kate. Those are feelings I have for people I actually know in my real world.
However, I do think that Kate provides a valuable service in the cyber-world. She is provocative, and makes people think. On her site liberalism is exposed for what it is...utopian, wishful dreaming with no basis in reality.
that alone makes her site a worthwhile visit.

Posted by: Paul at March 25, 2008 10:31 AM

Re: The so called "NAFTA-Gate/Obama trumped up by collusion amongst the Canadian media.

So far, David Akin of CTV is being "relocated"; Susan Bonner of CBC has not been seen on air since and one wonders about CTV's man in Washington (can't remember his name) who so gleefully participated in the rumourfest. Is he still around?

Will be very very interesting when PM Harper's investigation into this is completed.

Does anybody have any more news or insights on this?

Posted by: lmf at March 25, 2008 10:33 AM

Agree, Stephen, the Liberals are promoting a Platonic totalitarian state. Read Karl Popper's devastating critique of Plato's ideal state, as a fascist totalitarianism (The Open Society and Its Enemies). .

But, who says that you can sign up to be a Ruler?

Warren and Jason (and Dion) self-assert that they have the wisdom to act as rulers over we peasants and serfs. Of course, that is also an assertion that we are only capable of 'beer and popcorn'. Wait, haven't the Liberals already claimed that about us?

As soon as you set up a state in the Platonic ideal, which defines people as unequal and categorizes them into hierarchical Sets, each with different roles in the state, you've moved into totalitarianism. The reason is because you've removed Reason from the population. Only one Set is allowed to reason, the Rulers. The rest of the population is reduced to Guardians and Workers.

Socrates insisted that it is possible to reason with a slave. Plato rejects this. Beer and popcorn. And that's why it isn't simply 'The Nazis', aka The Guardians, a small state-defined Set, who carried out the tasks of the Holocaust. It was the population, the silent, who had handed over and rejected their Right and Duty to Reason.

Warren, Jason, and others,insist that the HRAct and the HRC's small cabal of bureaucrats alone have the Right to Reason. This small set, appointed and anointed by our government, we are told, will inform us what we may think and what we may not think and speak about. We, slaves and peasants, must deny our capacity to Reason.

We must reject criticial perception, we must reject personal responsibility and hand it over to the State. We must reject our very humanness, which includes both the Duty and Right to Reason, a capacity which exists in every man, but also, the Duty to acknowledge our limitations as thinkers, and such limitations also exist in every man, despite the claims of the Liberals to 'appointing only those with expertise in human rights'.

Posted by: ET at March 25, 2008 10:33 AM

Dion outlines promises in swing through Maritimes
toronto star 03/25/08

"Dion say's in the next Election the Liberals will annouce plans to cut Poverty in Canada by one third & Child poverty by a half"

OK is it me or Have we not heard that line Before somewhere!

"And He Said, In order for Canada to compete Globally, His party would make University accessible to all Canadians, and not just those at Upper Income Levels"

Was it not the Liberals that Cut funding to enable Canadians too attend University!

Same old BS just a different decade

Posted by: bryanr at March 25, 2008 10:33 AM

"Her painting of hockey masks may be worthy of love. But that's it. The rest is Kate serving Kate's ego. Hollow stuff. I'll bet Kate is lonely as hell."

Hey Shaidle, what were you saying again about progressive men, and how their default response to "uppity women" is to suggest we need to get laid?

Posted by: Kate at March 25, 2008 10:35 AM

Maudlin...Kate made consistently bad cause...you mean consistently exposing the Lieberals and the msm for the pack of power hungry liars that they are,good cause in my books.

Posted by: h.ryan. at March 25, 2008 10:42 AM

Alberta Girl: "Today is Tuesday - here is the "scandal" for this week."

'Looks like there's more than one scandal: from a female CBC reporter this morning on a new weapon being deployed by our Canadian forces in Afghanistan: "It is VERY EXPENSIVE..." she said, hammering down on "very expensive"--obviously what the CBC scriptwriter wanted her to get across.

Those naughty CPC-ers, 'Just costing the Canadian taxpayer WAY TOO MUCH MONEY on this war-thing.

CBC has also figured out the cost of Canadian security since 9/11, by using reports and talking to "security experts." Of course, they don't say who these "experts" are or what reports they're accessing: apparently $24-billion.

Of course, there's no mention of the connection between money spent and the FACT that there have been no terrorist attacks on Canadian soil. Just the implication that the CPC Government = Big Spending.

Then to add insult to injury, they point out that the Canadian Government is falling down on security on the Great Lakes: apparently, to 220 U.S. security officers, Canada has only 14.

I guess the CPC is damned if they do and damned if they don't. The usual at the CBC.

Posted by: batb at March 25, 2008 10:46 AM

Just heard on the local new that France" MAY" be backing out of sending 1000 troops to Afghanistan. Somehow that doesn't surprise me. Hope I am wrong. They are likely s#1t scared of offending their Muslim citizens. Sad state of affairs

Posted by: Rob C at March 25, 2008 10:46 AM

Michael J. Totten, The Israel of the Balkans

Kosovo doesn’t belong to the Iranian-Syrian-Hezbollah-Hamas axis. On the contrary, Kosovo has thrown in its lot with the West, and especially with the United States. Serbia’s breakaway province is perhaps the most pro-American country in all of Europe. Bill Clinton is lionized there as a liberator – a main boulevard through the capital Prishtina is named after him – just as George H. W. Bush and his son George W. Bush are hailed as saviors in Iraqi Kurdistan...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 25, 2008 10:49 AM

Bret Stephens, How al Qaeda Will Perish

Do minors require their parents' consent to become suicide bombers? Believe it or not, this is the subject of an illuminating and bitter debate among the leading theoreticians of global jihad, with consequences that could be far-reaching...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 25, 2008 10:52 AM

(Via CSP) Oliver Kamm, Not blowback, but turnaround

It has been said periodically on Comment is Free, but bears remorseless recapitulation. Since 9/11, some parts of the left have crossed over to the reactionary right, and the Guardian/Observer, till recently the voice of British liberalism, has become their sounding board.

To mark the anniversary of the Iraq war, the newspaper carried an article by Seumas Milne, declaring: "The unprovoked aggression launched by the US and Britain against Iraq five years ago today has already gone down across the world as, to borrow the words of President Roosevelt, 'a day which will live in infamy'." If you believe Saddam Hussein's regime was a lawful authority of pacific character, the violation of whose sovereignty was comparable to the attack on Pearl Harbour by a xenophobic imperialism, then you might reflect on how easily you confirm the case advanced by Nick Cohen, Christopher Hitchens and me. Your cast of mind is not anti-war, but anti-American and anti-British...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 25, 2008 10:54 AM

Live-blogging account of the CHRC hearing this morning related to Warmen vs Lemire:

http://forums.macleans.ca/advansis/?mod=for&act=dis&eid=48&so=&ps=&sb=

It's actually quite a hoot.

Posted by: Andrew at March 25, 2008 11:01 AM

"...we need to get laid?" Kate @ 10:35am

Gee Kate, it seems that Johnny assumes that love=laid. Besides, unless you publish it, your love life is none of our concern.

As far as respect goes, you have earned mine and other's respect by your thought provoking and insightful writing. Your ability to put out an item and have people swinging (and missing) at it is truly a work of art. I come to SDA because it isn't a one trick pony although there are quite a few re-occuring themes that just write themselves.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at March 25, 2008 11:02 AM

I spent Easter in New York State with my American relatives who are a mixture of Democrats and Republicans. With regard to the Democrats, none of the men would vote for Hillary and nobody would vote for Obama (they decided that a long time ago when he refused to wear a flag pin or salute the flag). In this little mini poll of ordinary folk, things are looking pretty good for John McCain.

An article in the Wall Street Journal about John McCain and his age:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120640701463560977.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

"Mr. McCain's most intense early memories are likely of a time when most men under 40 wore the uniform; and there is a difference, I believe, between those who remember it and those who don't. His country was enmeshed in a battle for its survival. Mr. McCain is the grandson and son of admirals, and Pearl Harbor and the great carrier battles in the South Pacific made a deep and lasting impression upon his childhood."

Posted by: muttsrus at March 25, 2008 11:16 AM

The left blogs are fringe. Their failure to attract an audience is what makes them angry, which in turn pushes them further into irrational opinion, screeds and irrelevancy. Taking away their tools of oppression, such as the HRC, also makes them angry.

There's a growing amount of racist hate from the left. Particularly anti-Semitism, cleverly disguised as anti-Zionism.

On the comments thread from the NP article, for example, a commentor, 'Barney Rubble', is claiming that the poor Islamists, yes, Islamists, are being demonized by the racist Zionists.

This is, IMO, hate. I don't care if he's ignorant of the fact that Islam, according to their own texts, is institutionalized hate, racism, misogyny and bigotry. It's all written right there for anybody to read. And preached daily wherever there's a mosque, madrassa, or microphone. The trilogy is rife with hate, which has incited mass murder and pograms throughout history. And continues to do so.

I am looking forward to the day when the Islamic ideology is fully and unequivocally exposed for what it is - an ideology of hatred towards all non-Muslims and conquest of their culture, posessions and lands.

On that note, it strikes me that Warren Kinsella is a secret anti-Semite. Other than what he claims, how does anybody know that he didn't write the racist comment in the public washroom and then photograph it? How timely and convenient it was for him to have a camera with him in the stall to record the hate.

This combined with his support of known Islamist racists who incite others to kill Jews, such as Elmasry, gives one pause to think and question.

Posted by: irwin daisy at March 25, 2008 11:40 AM

"Besides, unless you publish it, your love life is none of our concern."

I've never blogged about my cat, either. But I'm still awaiting the first post from progressives mocking me for not having one.


Posted by: Kate at March 25, 2008 11:51 AM

Michael Jacobson, The Bombers Who Weren't

...Why do some terrorists drop out? We rightly think of al-Qaeda and other jihadist groups as formidable foes, but the stories of would-be killers who bail give us some intriguing clues about fault lines that counterterrorism officials should exploit. The reasons for a change of heart can be strikingly prosaic: family, money, petty grievances. But they can also revolve around shaken ideology or lost faith in a group's leadership...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 25, 2008 12:02 PM

For God's sake, take a break, Jason, learn your craft.
-Edward Michael George.

Poor craftsmanship is not the problem. The problem is youth, inexperience, a lack of knowledge and historical understanding which, alas, seems not to be available in our universities as apparently evidenced by a recent story in the NP about soaring anxiety and depression in the student population.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at March 25, 2008 12:05 PM

The mustard seed in global strategy
By Spengler

"A self-described revolution in world affairs has begun in the heart of one man. He is the Italian journalist and author Magdi Cristiano Allam, whom Pope Benedict XVI baptized during the Easter Vigil at St Peter's. Allam's renunciation of Islam as a religion of violence and his embrace of Christianity denotes the point at which the so-called global "war on terror" becomes a divergence of two irreconcilable modes of life: the Western way of faith supported by reason, against the Muslim world of fatalism and submission."

"Since September 2001, the would-be wizards of Western strategy have tried to conjure an "Islamic reformation", or a "moderate Islam", or "Islamic democracy". None of this matters now, for as Magdi Allam tells us, the matter on the agenda is not to persuade Muslims to act like liberal Westerners, but instead to convince them to cease to be Muslims. The use of the world "revolution" is Magdi Allam's:

His Holiness has sent an explicit and revolutionary message to a Church that until now has been too prudent in the conversion of Muslims, abstaining from proselytizing in majority Muslim countries and keeping quiet about the reality of converts in Christian countries. Out of fear. The fear of not being able to protect converts in the face of their being condemned to death for apostasy and fear of reprisals against Christians living in Islamic countries. Well, today Benedict XVI, with his witness, tells us that we must overcome fear and not be afraid to affirm the truth of Jesus even with Muslims.

There is no deference to mutual respect and multi-culturalism. Magdi Allam forsook Islam because he considers it to be "inherently evil". As he wrote to his editor at the Corriere della Sera:

My conversion to Catholicism is the touching down of a gradual and profound interior meditation from which I could not pull myself away, given that for five years I have been confined to a life under guard, with permanent surveillance at home and a police escort for my every movement, because of death threats and death sentences from Islamic extremists and terrorists, both those in and outside of Italy ..."
http://tinyurl.com/35zhzz (atimes)

Posted by: maz2 at March 25, 2008 12:12 PM

Clinton says she 'misspoke' about sniper fire
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/25/campaign.wrap/index.html

"I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement," she said.

Since millions is plural, that must be at least two million words per day, or 8 words per second 24/7. No wonder Bill needs time away!

Posted by: Alchemist at March 25, 2008 12:19 PM

This is a subtle way of saying the NDP had to do something to tone down its abundance of anti-religious bigot MP's:

Mr. Comartin helped to start a faith and social justice committee in his party, partly because he said there was an "intellectual arrogance" within the party which demeaned people because they practised religion.

link

Posted by: bob at March 25, 2008 12:26 PM

Because, Jason, we have learned the lesson of the Third Reich and of the liar Warren Kinsella’s favorite political philosopher, Lenin - when the state is powerful enough to attempt to command our thoughts or our speech, our freedom is in grave jeopardy. Your boy Pierre recognized that and we have the Charter to, if only the SCC would let it, protect us against the do-gooding loonies of the state.Your boy Pierre recognized that and we have the Charter to, if only the SCC would let it, protect us against the do-gooding loonies of the state.
- Jay Currie (a bit of a loony himself it seems).

Well, not quite BINGO Kate. PET left out a minor detail in the Charter, namely property rights, the very wellspring of liberty without which there can be NO human rights. Moreoever, PET deliberately engineered the Charter so that the SCC [read: Liberal appointees] would make law and re-make Canada into the "Just [read: thieving] Society".

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at March 25, 2008 12:31 PM

The real Obama,

Obama was the ONLY Senator or house member who did NOT care about a anti-Islam free speech defender imprisoned in Bangladesh.

BUT

"...Barack Obama wants us to think that he has a special sensitivity to injustice and that his entire life has been about combating it. "

read the rest here

Posted by: Friend of USA at March 25, 2008 12:32 PM

"We want a small, relatively powerless state powerfully constrained by law. We want a state which will not imagine itself as the custodian of our thoughts or our speech."

Thank you Jay. That is perfect.

I'm thankful that the magic of the Internet should ensure that people with the views of Cherniak, Red Tory and the rest are always available, ensuring a careerpath suitable to their suitability.

Posted by: bud at March 25, 2008 12:40 PM

I caught Diane Francis talking on CBC this a.m., a discussion of Canadian billionairs.
She lightly mentions the Strong-Desmerais connection WRT 'most' Canadian Prime Ministers and hinted that Desmerais could contribute tp PMSH's campaign and no-one would know.
The point of that nuance would be...??

If anyone can get the transcript it would be interesting to have a go at it...I was frustrated yelling at the radio.

Posted by: bluetech at March 25, 2008 12:43 PM

Bluetech

Unless you are on the west coast, you can listen to the interview in the next time zone via the web - just add an hour or two:
http://www.cbc.ca/listen/

Posted by: bob at March 25, 2008 12:51 PM

Another British convert against Islam and multiculturalism:

"Woman, 18, is raped in alleyway"

(BBC) An 18-year-old woman has been raped in Weston-super-Mare, police have said.

The victim was standing outside the Nationwide Building Society in High Street in the early hours of Sunday when a black Vauxhall Vectra pulled up.

Four men of Asian appearance dragged her into the car and she was sexually assaulted as she was driven around.

She was then taken to an alleyway by the Three Queens pub, where two of the men raped her. Four men have been arrested on suspicion of rape.

The men, all in their 20s, remain in custody and a black Vauxhall Vectra car is being examined by detectives.

Posted by: irwin daisy at March 25, 2008 12:53 PM

Is it really true that Johnny Maudlin is so narrow-minded that he can see thru a keyhole with both eyes at the same time?

Posted by: rockyt at March 25, 2008 12:54 PM

YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK.

Status of Women agency funds project to help female students understand the importance of equal representation in legislative bodies.

Posted by: SUZANNE at March 25, 2008 1:58 PM

Wow, We find out that Kate has a cat AND the PMO's office makes a typo (re: Saskachewan)all in the same day... coincedence or a conservative plot???

Posted by: Texas Canuck at March 25, 2008 1:58 PM

YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK.

Status of Women agency funds project to help female students understand the importance of equal representation in legislative bodies.

Posted by: SUZANNE at March 25, 2008 1:59 PM

Wow, We find out that Kate has a cat AND the PMO's office makes a typo (re: Saskachewan)all in the same day... coincedence or a conservative plot???

Posted by: Texas Canuck at March 25, 2008 2:01 PM

Maximum disruption? DNC Disruption '08.
Left liberals united in bro'hood.
...-

(Belmont Club)
Unless Hillary Clinton selflessly withdraws from the race, the eye-gouging, ear-biting, finger-breaking identity wrestling contest will continue all the way to the convention in Denver where all hell is expected to break loose. DNC Disruption '08, a coalition of 'progressive activists' is already surveilling the city, noting the location of television cameras and identifying weak points in security with the same cold precision with which an undertaker measures a corpse for a coffin. ...-
http://dncdisruption08.org/

Posted by: maz2 at March 25, 2008 2:10 PM

Intelligence Doping--Posner

"Sports doping"--the use of anabolic steroids and other drugs to increase athletic performance...--is intensely controversial. A recent article in Nature--Barbara Sahakian and Sharon Morein-Zamir, "Professor’s Little Helper," Dec. 2007--discusses the parallel phenomenon of "intelligence doping." The term refers to the use of drugs to enhance cognitive performance...

[Becker's comment follows Posner's entry].

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 25, 2008 2:36 PM

Zombie* Citoyen Dion.
...-

"Liza Frulla plunges the knife of pity deep into poor Stephane Dion

In a particularly brutal attack on Stephane Dion's qualities as a leader, former Liberal Party cabinet minister Liza Frulla cuts deep.

And she uses the sharpest knife of all -- pity."
http://stevejanke.com/archives/258565.php
...-

Dion, le mort-vivant*
http://tinyurl.com/2rcvy6
*Hacked.

Posted by: maz2 at March 25, 2008 2:48 PM

test

Posted by: Shamrock at March 25, 2008 3:22 PM

I just posted this in response to Jason Porniak over at shotgun. I wonder if he's really thought this through?


[i]Okay Jason. I guess I'll have to explain it to you. The holocaust involved most members of German society at the time, either implicitly or explicitly. From those who took an active part in ratting out the jews, those who drove the trucks, ran the trains, printed the leaflets, sewed the uniforms, etc. etc. etc. But not all of those Germans were members of the Nazi party. The German state was bigger than the Nazi party, regardless of the fact that the Nazi party identified themselves [b]as[/b] the state.

Remember all of those people after the war who claimed they were not really Nazis, but were "just following orders?" And those who refused to follow orders (eg: Dietrich Bonhoeffer) found the state against them, outlawing their organizations, censoring their radio broadcasts and writings, and finally imprisoning and (in many cases) executing them.

To say that the German state was not implicit in the holocaust would be akin to saying that the Canadian state bears no blame for the treatment of Japanese Canadians during the Second World War, but instead the blame rests solely with the political party (the Liberals in case you've forgotten) in power at the time in which the incidents occurred. In which case, the settlements ought to be coming out of party coffers, rather than taxpayer funds. Is this really the case you wish to make?[/i]

Posted by: Karl at March 25, 2008 3:29 PM

"The left blogs are fringe." (Irwin Daisy) This is true. At this point in time, left-wing blogs are boring, conventional and filled with the cliches of two generations. In some ways, the banality of political correctness has obscured any potential for deep thought and challenging ideas on the left. Many on the left have sacrificed truth for ideology. In their zeal to dominate political discourse, they have become hectoring, close-minded and inflexible. Dion's pronouncements typify how exhausted left-wing thinking has become. His plans to "cut poverty" and make university "more accessible" reflect an utter lack of sophistication about how even to think about public policy. It's not that these things are not desirable as amorphous "nice-to-haves", but his pronouncements reflect little understanding of the complexities of globalization, economics, social change and the impact of information technology. Poverty is relative -- it will always be with us. Moreover, poverty is usually symptomatic of something else that needs to be addressed more directly. Universities are not the only way to ensure competitiveness, and in some contexts, universities themselves are struggling to remain relevant. The left in general, and Mr. Dion in particular seem caught in a time warp. They remind me of myself thirty years ago, but thankfully, I have learned a few things since then.

Posted by: LindaL at March 25, 2008 3:33 PM

Jason Cherniak isn't all that young. I'm his age and not significantly cognitively impaired. I'm not an adolescent anymore either.
I'd suggest ignoring him on the grounds that he's an idiot, but not ignoring him is entertaining. Besides, which of these wrong-side-of-the-HRC fight guys aren't morons? Niccolo Kinsella? The crazy imams? Warman? It's comforting, in a way, how dumb they are. It will, however, be embarassing if these mental defectives destroy freedom in our country.

Posted by: Lista at March 25, 2008 3:36 PM

Yeah, this "faux rage" is the thing to get. My theory is that it supplies a synthetic moral sense for empty people.

LindaL:
At this point in time, left-wing blogs are boring, conventional and filled with the cliches of two generations. In some ways, the banality of political correctness has obscured any potential for deep thought and challenging ideas on the left.
You know, LindaL, I believe this might be the key to understanding the huge rise in anxiety and depression in the university student population (recent NP piece).

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at March 25, 2008 4:04 PM

Just for fun I translated the last two paragraphs of the article from La Presse Maz2 mentioned above on Dion being a Zombie ( mort vivant )

(Keep in mind my French is better than my English)

The Conservative government, elected on a minimalist platform, is at the end of its cycle and is only surviving thanks to the weakness of its main adversary.

The liberal domination in Ontario, confirmed by the partial elections, seems to indicate that the Conservatives don't seem to be able to win a majority victory, despite the weakness of their adversary, and that they still do not have succeeded the transition of this ideological party with regional origins that would transform it into a true rallying national party, capable of replacing the liberals as the natural ruling party.

Until then, Canadian political life is in suspense, at every level. The Conservative government is in a dead end, the opposition is too. A dead end that only elections will resolve.

Posted by: Friend of USA at March 25, 2008 4:17 PM

The Italic HTML tag did not work???

Posted by: Friend of USA at March 25, 2008 4:18 PM

"Faux rage" is right. Kinsella and Cherniak seem more interested in spinning the HRC controversy for political ends than for standing on any principle. The crocodile tears are palpable. They're slinging mud in the hopes that some will stick. I don't think they honestly believe the crap they write, but find it useful politically. In their narrative, conservatives who defend our liberties and the principle of free speech are twisted into Nazi protectors. What a sickening and cynical use of political spin!

Posted by: Belisarius at March 25, 2008 4:37 PM

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/03/25/5095246-sun.html

The above is a link to a opinion on the neo-nazis in Calgary and the need to 'protect' them in spite of the HUGE police bill.

It begs the question "Do the police come out when the smelly hippies come protest the war or the seal hunt?"

Why don't we have stories about the policing costs of those demonstrations?

Posted by: molarmauler at March 25, 2008 4:58 PM

When I saw the original post, I took a quick glance at it agreed with the premise. Being a student of the war I never even began to think that anyone could begin to get it so wrong!

Here ya go in nice simple plain language Jason and friends. Even dictatorships require at least the tacit approval of the governed. When they loose that support, things like the fall of the Berlin Wall happen.

Posted by: Jim at March 25, 2008 5:33 PM

Why don't we have stories about policing costs when the Mohawk Warrior Society takes over 100 acres of Caledonia housing tract for two years? And counting.

Posted by: The Phantom at March 25, 2008 5:42 PM

"Even dictatorships require at least the tacit approval of the governed. When they loose that support, things like the fall of the Berlin Wall happen."

I'm wondering if Jim is speaking from first-hand experience, a lifetime of observation, something he's read, or is this an original idea?

Posted by: Richard Ball at March 25, 2008 5:49 PM

Charles MacDonald at March 25, 2008 10:49 AM

Thanks for your Michael Totten piece analogizing Israel and Kosovo. A most interesting take I've never heard before.
Frankly, I'm a bit too opiniated sometimes, but I gotta tell you I struggle with no single issue more than Kosovo, starting with Lewis McKenzie's haunting piece: "We Bombed the Wrong Side".

My physical trainer is from Montenegro and has a similarly benign view of Kosovars.

Problem for me, though, is that there's no mention of the fake genocide stories, the mass Albanian graves that were never found, and the KLA, a true terrorist operation. Nor, al Queda's operations there. Nor all the Wahhabi mosques.

Nevertheless, shocked to discover Arafat's fondness for Milosevich.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at March 25, 2008 5:55 PM

Well there were no dictatorships in Cape Breton Richard. Just lots of cabbage rolls!

Really though, there are no original ideas so I guess it is observation and reading. The line itself is mine, but the thought? Just seems like common dog to simple sailor.

Posted by: Jim at March 25, 2008 6:20 PM

Big Fish? T-J?

CAW...CAW...caw..ca...
...-

Ottawa Abuzz over Hargrove
Tuesday, 25 March 2008
National Newswatch: Ottawa is abuzz with rumours that the CAW's Buzz Hargrove will run for the Liberals in the next federal election.. and he plans to take on a big fish....

Posted by: maz2 at March 25, 2008 6:35 PM

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Posted by: jeff davidson at March 25, 2008 8:37 PM

It's a pretty long piece at Maclean's called "Every parent's nightmare:
A famous Canadian singer-songwriter's family was almost destroyed when his son started bringing home dangerous new friends"

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20080213_105909_105909&page=1

It's funny - Liberal Canadians always bag on the states, but Liberal/commie Toronto has successfully imported a US-style inner city ghetto-style thug culture. It's not that Canada was ever crime free or anything - but the sort of brazen violence typical of wastoid cities like Detroit, Newark, Camde and Baltimore is a new feature - and the GTA is the first in Canada to get it.

Posted by: holdfast at March 25, 2008 9:28 PM

Interesting news re Buzz Hargrove running for the Liberals. Geez, even I'd vote for Layton if it meant sticking it to Buzz.

Posted by: LindaL at March 25, 2008 10:19 PM

Has anybody noticed that the Liberal Party is morphing into the NDP's by stealth?

Poor Jack! Crowing about getting Monclair, a Quebec Garth Turner look alike/act alike with his own leadership aspirations who did not get along with his own party, the Liberals while the Federal Liberals are scarfing up NDPs across the country.

Strange times.

Posted by: lmf at March 25, 2008 11:54 PM

Jason Cherniak Warren Kinsella's apprentice trapped in a lie and a fraud while trying to smear Kate McMillan

http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2008/03/fake-outrage.html

After falling into Kate McMillan's trap Jason Cherniak in order to save his face masterfully inserts a period into Kate McMillan's sentence.

Original sentence see link below:

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008328.html

Quote:
"The Nazis Didn't Carry Out The Holocaust
The German state did that."

As anybody can see it is a single sentence broken into two lines.

First nine words of that sentence are capitalised with clear intent to deceive people like Cherniak to believe at first sight that they deal with two separate sentences. Deception worked better than intended because Mike Brock also fell for it, see above, quote, "Nazis didn't carry out the holocaust. The german state did that".

Where Mike Brock absentmindedly re-typed Kate McMillan's statement as he understood it and forgot to capitalise Germany, Jason Cherniak who read and re-read Kate McMillan's post decided to engage in wilful deception and inserted a full stop where there was none quote, "Nazis Didn't Carry Out The Holocaust. The German state did that."

See: http://jasoncherniak.blogspot.com/

Czerniak was careful enough to repeat capitalisation. Did he intentionally insert full stop into Kate McMillan's statement??? Sure he did, as he referred to non existing full stop numerous times in his attempt to lie quote,

“The problem with this defence is two-fold. First and foremost, she didn't write "Nazis Didn't Carry Out The Holocaust alone". Neither did she write "Nazis Didn't Carry Out The Holocaust without the German state". She made a very explicit claim that "Nazis Didn't Carry Out The Holocaust". Period.”

Without insertion of a period into Kate McMillan's post his argument against her does not make any sense.

This revelation however should not surprise any of us as we already have plenty of evidence of Liberanos committing fraud and spreading lies every chance they get. Jason Czerniak Devil’s apprentice just did what he could to win the day.

Posted by: Karol Karolak at March 26, 2008 8:50 AM

Karol, I appreciate your effort, but the commentary isn't affected by where you put the punctuation. It stands on its own merits by virtue of logic and historical fact, and the notion that it generated any controversy at all is indicative of nothing more than the derangement levels of critics.

Posted by: Kate at March 26, 2008 10:38 AM

Kate,
I just fund it funny that in order to split hairs to make his "point" Jason Czerniak resorted to fraud. He should have known better. Than again, if he knew he would never become Liberal in a first place. Cheers.

Posted by: Karol Karolak at March 26, 2008 1:15 PM
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