"I can no more disown [Rev. Jeremiah Wright] than I can my white grandmother--a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who I am nonetheless willing to drag through the mud and onto the world stage to denounce as a racist, if it serves my ambition and helps salvage my campaign."* Posted by Kate at March 18, 2008 6:29 PM
I heard an excerpt of the speech where he said this. Appalling. he is using his humiliating his own grandmother to help his campaign. This man is shameless.
Posted by: Roy Eappen at March 18, 2008 6:50 PMWasn't he raised by the white side of his family??
Posted by: minuteman at March 18, 2008 6:58 PMGood luck at the next family reunion, Obie.
Posted by: Bruce at March 18, 2008 7:01 PMReal black guys don't diss their grandmothers under *any* circumstances; this theoretically shouldn't play well in East St. Louis.
Long legged mack daddy granny pimping freak.
Posted by: fsadfaf at March 18, 2008 7:03 PMObama is a POS socialist and they are capable of anything ... They would sell their own grandmother down the river if they though it would get them somewhere .... Oops isn't that just what he did?
For more on what a socialist actually is ... Check this out.
Be afraid!
Posted by: John West at March 18, 2008 7:04 PMThis comment comes from one of his books so he must feel granny is a good example of caring but racist white people. Seems that she has done an excellant job raising him because its very difficult for anyone to go to Harvard never mind run for president. How nice of him to decide not to disown his flesh and blood no matter how often she made him cringe with her racist comments. Wonder what granny thought of his daddy?
Posted by: lanarklady at March 18, 2008 7:13 PMGod help us all!
I might just have to immigrate to Canada if Obamessiah becomes the next president. He is a Jimmy Carter waiting to happen. Obama followers are becoming increasingly aggressive when confronted, sign that this "movement" is becoming more like a cult. I almost got shoved the other day when I was criticizing him in class.
I wish to put too fine a point on this, BUT, if my pastor used such language to describe Canada, or gays, or AIDs patients, I would walk out and never return to his Church.
Posted by: Shamrock at March 18, 2008 7:14 PM"Black anger" and "white resentments," he said, have "distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle-class squeeze: a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices and short-term greed."
So corporate greed is a racial issue? All Whites are okay with it but it makes the black community angry at the white community.
I can tell what is the biggest culprit in the middle class squeeze. It's the middle class themselves who over use credit, think they deserve every bauble they see right now and all day long.
It's poor planning and poor budgeting and not enough education and upgrading and skill development and taking responsibility for their own futures.
It is the myth that the nanny state owes and you and when the Obamites are in power the wonderful socialist systems they will enact and ram down your throats will be the panacea and the paradise we all so richly deserve. Fools rush in for that.
See what is socialism above.
Posted by: John West at March 18, 2008 7:17 PMSorry to keep coming back, but I am so angry at this skinny POS.
- He is half white and half black.
- He embraces the black side only ... you know the side that abandoned him early on.
- He now trashes the white side that loved, raised and nurtured him in to the Harvard-educated POS he now is.
I have noted this same stupidity in the Oscar speech where Hali Barry, another half and halfer POS who was raised by her white mom when her black dad abandoned her. Yet she embraces the black side with gusto.
I guess the interbreeding causes a mental defect that makes them total ingrates.
Splain that one to me.
Perhaps Harvard and Hollywood make people insane. Naw, I think they are just a couple of super ingrates.
Posted by: John West at March 18, 2008 7:28 PMHe might get the nomination but will not win in November. Wonder how super tuesday would have turned out if this had come out prior to that.
What else will be found out about him now the media is in the hunt. His wife's comments re being proud for the first time are just as scary.
Isn't one of his backers a very famous successful black woman, and doesn't she represent the corporate world. I think his speech today has set back all the achievments of blacks back 100 years.
I always thought a lot of his vote was from whites because they felt guilty of perceived wrongs to black years ago. They voted for him once, but will they do it in November.
Well at least Granny didn't end up at the bottom of an elevator shaft.
Yet.
Posted by: richfisher at March 18, 2008 7:43 PMOh Lord give me Hillary over this angry, angry man...but hell...would we rather have an angry, angry woman?
Posted by: Matt at March 18, 2008 7:43 PMRe Mary T.... You are so right the "O" is the ultimate example of corporate success and a huge supporter {also a past member of the church} of this campaign. Does that make her an evil greedy user or an example of America can do?
Posted by: lanarklady at March 18, 2008 7:45 PMHis granny's name wouldn't be 'Checkers' would it?
Posted by: Gord Tulk at March 18, 2008 7:50 PMHaille after many a black boyfriend and husband that beat her with Wesley Snipes leaving her deaf in her left ear from his beatings.
Finally got knocked up by a white Canadian.
You know, my Grandmother said things that made me cringe. Hell, my Mom's said things that made me cringe.
Did I just "denounce her as a racist" by saying so?
Posted by: Lord Kitchener's Own at March 18, 2008 7:56 PMJohn West you identified the issue yourself:
- He is half white and half black.
- He embraces the black side only
... you know the side that abandoned him early on.
There it is. You see in the socialist mind you are free to do anything you want with no repercussions, but grandma obviously set down some rules and raised the boy to be successful. You cannot do that without rules and strict guidance. Yet still Obama holds his absentee black father in high esteem because he did not impose any conditions on his upbringing. How could he? He was never there. As a socialist, this is perfection.
It is interesting that of all the evils Obama sees in the world he could not (or would not more likely) deign to criticize dead-beat black fathers. It was whitey granma's fault because she raised him, and no doubt once in while gave her personal opinion of the dead-beat black father - this to Obama would constitute racism.
Of course his preferred solution is not more caring granma's (or better yet mothers and fathers), his solution is heavy intervention by social agencies sucking up taxes.
Posted by: Cascadian at March 18, 2008 8:00 PMClean up in aisle SGD , please . Take that garbage elsewhere , unless of course you work for the CHRT's , then it's cool I guess ....
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 18, 2008 8:05 PMThrow Momma From the Gravy Train.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at March 18, 2008 8:20 PMObama becomes psychologically interesting.
He's angry; why would anyone attend a church with such rants, and most certainly, those few clips we've seen are not isolate speeches. Why would someone with his privileged upbringing and education, listen to such prejudice? Why wouldn't he leave that particular church? Is it because it expresses his own feelings?
He identifies more with black than white people, and sees himself as a victim of white 'racism'; he's a victim of his white grandmother. The 'fact' that he says he doesn't reject his white grandmother expressing, not racism, but simply fear of Stranger Others..is a form of rejection. He doesn't accept her fear.
His trivializing his pastor's racist and virulent anti-Americanism by trying to compare it to Geraldine Ferraro's single remark is comparable to his trying to compare his grandmother's fear of strangers.
He couldn't reject his pastor, because he, and his wife, think within that same perspective, of blacks-as-victims. And, the won't reject him because this perspective is widespread amongst American blacks - and Obama wants their vote.
Posted by: ET at March 18, 2008 8:56 PMI've got 10 Euros on the Republican candidate winning in November, though I admit that if I was an eligible voter and so inclined, I'd pick Nader over the big O or the Hildebeast. From a north of the border perspective, SH rules, regardless of the fantastic Librano results yesterday (fantastic capital sarc on).
Posted by: steve at March 18, 2008 9:50 PMThe media and the people are only going to hear what they want to hear vis-a-vis BHO. Granny is alive by the way: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/14/politics/main2567770_page2.shtml
I'm guessing this is the Carter interview with Playboy moment right here. Potentially fatal, but BHO can recover.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_presidential_election
Watch for the McCain surge.
Posted by: Ace at March 18, 2008 10:05 PMJohn West @704, good speech. We could also now add enviromentalism to the list of statist philosophies.
Posted by: RW at March 18, 2008 10:11 PMI guess Obama has a lot bigger problem than 'Naftagate.' Wonder how the Libs will blame this trainwreck on PMSH?
Posted by: Sammy at March 18, 2008 10:35 PMI remember Halle Berry choking up at the Oscar presentation. She paid tribute to the black performers that made it possible for her success. To say nothing of her fine delicate features that would have made a classic portrait painter salivate. Herewith part of Halle's heritage.
Maternal grandmother. Nellie Dicken, born Sawley, Derbyshire, England. Born 1911 (spouse Earl Hawkins born 1909 native of Ohio USA.
Mother. Judith Ann Hawkins, Born 1939, Liverpool, England.
Of interest is that Judith Ann became a psychiatric nurse in America. She married Jerome James Berry, an attendant in a hospital. James was a black American. Enter Halle in 1966.He toddled off after Halle was four years old. (Divorced). Halle has conceded she has nothing to do with her Dad.
Posted by: Peter(Lock City) at March 18, 2008 10:42 PMET:
A piece at Slate, after giving an excellent analysis of Black Christian liberation theology, pointed out that perhaps Obama got involved in the Church out of political opportunism; that he had no real religious background but kept getting asked what his church was so he felt that he needed one for his career, and that his chosen church was one of the biggest most prominent in S. Chicago, the locus of his "community activism". T
That, he may now be suffering from criticism for something he pretended to be.
Not sure I buy it but it's an interesting take.
Curiously, he apparently is slow to suggest government interference in the gathering financial crisis. That surprised me as he certainly doesn't appear to be any kind of Libertarian.
Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at March 18, 2008 10:49 PMET:
Re: BO's slow response on the financial 'crisis'.
I think this, along with his five day response time regarding Mr. Wright, is symptomatic of how he responds to events that require quick decisions - he is slow to act.
This is something that could be very dangerous if he were to actually be in a leadership position.
Another thing that may indicate this is his well documented poor performance in unscripted events - like press conferences, etc., where his statements are very disjointed and at time incoherent.
As I posted somewhere a few days ago - in fifteen years from now Obama will a the answer to a question is gen x edition of trivial pursuit.
Posted by: Gord Tulk at March 18, 2008 11:12 PMBang on! Thanks for this post Kate.
Posted by: TJ at March 18, 2008 11:16 PMThe black community doesn’t deny that this hate speech is a regular occurrence in their churches. Obama is coming off like most LIEerals, say anything, do anything and bad mouth anyone, his Grandmother, to get elected.
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In other words Obama is saying,
" Wright is wrong to call white people racist but let me remind you white people are racist because my own grand mother who was white was racist"
This is like saying,
" I disagree with those who say Eliot Spitzer was unfaithful to his wife but let me tell you that Spitzer had sex regularly with prostitutes "
Before Obama got to the grand-mother-racist part I was almost buying it, I was telling my self the guy is not so bad...
but then...
BAM!
Obama destroyed every good thing in that speech by mentioning his own grand mother was a white racist.
I really do not understand why Obama did that.
It is like he carefully built something then stepped all over it...
Posted by: Friend of USA at March 19, 2008 12:03 AM"(Reverend Jeremiah)'s comments were not only wrong... they were divisive." Gasp! worst of all!
Posted by: okhropir rumiani at March 19, 2008 12:24 AMI mean God help us if we allow something that matters to keep us divided.
Posted by: okhropir rumiani at March 19, 2008 12:32 AMPeople, people, people - you all miss the point! Obama-rama-scama is just establishing the point that - if he is not elected President of the Excited States it will only be because all you white people are racist!!!!
So how you going to squirm out of that one huh?
Posted by: Whorehouse piano player at March 19, 2008 12:44 AM[quote]and that his chosen church was one of the biggest most prominent in S. Chicago, the locus of his "community activism". [/quote]
Me No Dhimmi,
Black Churches are always in play, the congregation votes for whom ever gives the Minister the most Payola. I think, if truth be known, that both parties actually plan a "Split" of the black vote, deliberately nullifying these groups in a general election.
Phili (PA) is a Dem's black power house; Obama needs to get that vote away from the Machine that is backing Clinton. (White Gov is ex-Mayor and well liked) He needs the churches!
A lynching of Obama is the only way for Clinton to win the nomination. Denver is going to be trashed!
His grandma was mot racist. She raised him as best she could, did she not? Look how that effort turned out: Harvard graduate, candidate for POTUS.
Granted, she might of had a fear of groups of black men. In many neighbourhoods, that may be just common sense. He escaped the ghetto with her help.
He spent his adult life in a church that married him, baptized his children, with a pastor he employed as a spiritual guide in his campaign. And he knew nothing of the theology? The MSM of course (who might darken the doors of a local church the odd Easter Sunday if at all,) find this normal.
For all of this he is the most ungrateful soul.
It would be better to understand what BHO did with yesterday's speech. My take on it is that it did exactly what he intended it to do.
Obama has indicated all along that he did not want this race for the job as POTUS to be about race. He indicated all along that he wanted to stay above the fray, out of the gutter, and away from the blood-letting.
That is what he was saying. That wasn't his real intentions. Obama wanted to shame the "racist, white majority" of the voters into electing a black man as POTUS, so that said voters could prove to the world that they aren't racist.
Obama needed to make this election about race, while appearing to be above that play.
Obama just made this election all about race.
His problem is that he miscalculated. Watch the poll numbers now. The white voters are going to call BS on his move. He just lost an important segment of the two groups he needed to win: white voters and independent voters.
The powers-that-be in the Democratic Party, those who pull the important strings, are going to begin to view BHO as damaged goods and will be unwilling to place their hopes of regaining the White House on him. Watch for the shift in Super Delegates as the word goes out.
Very soon Barak Obama is going to follow Grandma under the bus.
Posted by: Yoop at March 19, 2008 9:52 AMBTW, remember that old Christmas song, "Grandma Got Runover by a Reindeer"?
Well, I'll bet 10 devalued US dollars that within the week a YouTube version of a song shows up titled "Grandma Got Runover by a Racist".
Posted by: Yoop at March 19, 2008 10:03 AMWow. Did you ever miss the point.
Obama acknowledges that good people sometimes get too passionate, and say stupid things. You guys should all be personally familiar with this concept.
This isn't throwing grandma under the bus... it's acknowledging that she is human.
You guys wouldn't know a good leader if he/she bit you on the ass.
I think George Bush just mangalated teh english language in a speech about how well the war is going. You might want to check it out... it's more your speed.
Posted by: John at March 19, 2008 4:04 PMA good friend took part in the Dim caucus in Lincoln, NE only to find herself cornered by a number of BO kids wanting to know who she really was. She's a brilliant attorney turned lobbiest and had them against the ropes by using logic rather than emotion during their discourse. She told them she was the lady walking the poodle. Their senses of humor are not yet fully developed.
Posted by: iowavette at March 19, 2008 5:08 PMAce wrote that "Granny is alive by the way".
http://tinyurl.com/2t2xom
She was quoted in a Mar 14 article (skant days before Obama drove over her):
"I am not giving any interviews," Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, curtly interjected when a reporter phoned. "I am in poor health."
She must be devastated by Obama's public denunciation of her in order to try to save his own political skin.
Maybe before she's dead and gone, Obama will feel some well-deserved shame and ask for her forgiveness.
The question is, should America forgive Obama?
Posted by: aek at March 19, 2008 5:53 PM"Wow. Did you ever miss the point."
"Obama acknowledges that good people sometimes get too passionate, and say stupid things."
John,
Acknowledges? Obama's empty rhetoric matches perfectly with the empty heads who are supporting him.
The feelings trump facts moonbat brigade - all you have to do is campaign on one word, "Hope." No policy, voting record or experience necessary.
What in your opinion is Obama campaigning on other than that?
Geez, man, you should do an inventory check on your brain. See if you ran out of reason. Or, do you swoon as well when he speaks?
Posted by: irwin daisy at March 19, 2008 7:35 PMI always hated Granny for the way she stuck up for Tweety Bird.
Posted by: Sylvester the Cat at March 19, 2008 7:46 PMFrom Drudge, links to videos of Pastor James David Manning of ATLAH Worldwide Ministries who doesn't think that affirmative action and government programs are solutions to black problems, and who doesn't seem to be impressed with Obama's message:
"Obama is a mac daddy."
http://youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU
Pastor Manning on the FOX News Talk John Gibson Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWExq7g2F0&NR=1
On the Trinity website, members are required to agree to a number of commitments. The first is to God. The SECOND is to the black community. Another commitment is that all individual accomplishments are to benefit the black community.
The church pledges allegiance to the African motherland, and only accepts God's love if given to supporting black over white.
No, I'm not making this up. Go look.
What exactly is meant by "the black community"?
What light might the answer shed on Obama's statement that he cannot disown Wright anymore than he could disown the black community. Is his refusal to disown his white Grandmother a blind?
What is this man truly committed to?
John...check out sesame street,it's more your speed.
Posted by: h.ryan. at March 20, 2008 1:36 PM"He couldn't reject his pastor, because he, and his wife, think within that same perspective, of blacks-as-victims. And, the won't reject him because this perspective is widespread amongst American blacks - and Obama wants their vote."
I think Obama's wife has this mindset but I'm not so sure about him. This is an attractive, articulate, educated man who must have made the decision to run for office long ago That's probably why he joined this church. He's never had a problem attracting white voters: It's the majority of black voters who labeled him as being too white. Once it looked like he might actually win it was a different story. Belonging to this church gives him a lot of cachet with blacks and he must walk a tightrope to keep blacks and whites on board because he cannot win without both.I'm sure he loves Grandma but this guy is a POLITICIAN. If he has to throw her to the wolves to keep the black vote, he will and he will try to keep the white vote by misdirection. Soothe the white voters by saying it's about hurt feelings, not hate speech.