Well, it is about the only way that british police are likely to catch any crooks these days...

I mean, if you lock them all up from a nice early age then surely you can't have missed any of the bad guys ..right?

Reminds me of a book, let me think, 1984?
This would work well with the HRC gestapo enforcers. God save us all.

un-fricken-believable.

It's time for a purge of government in all areas.

And yet, the U. S. remains the evil empire.

Is this an argument for a genetic component for criminality? Or an argument for differentiation of the population into the Tested and Filed and the Untested and Unfiled. Why not do everyone?

After all, the current set of criminologists, sociologists, etc, all affirm that criminals are 'made not born'. And what makes a criminal is always, according to them, 'childhood abuse'.
Oh, and poverty. That's a big cause.

Doesn't this also suggest that a child, who is becoming a criminal because their parents are poor, cannot learn not to be a criminal? Therefore, rehabilitation, a process much loved by these criminologists and sociologists, won't work. It's in the blood, you see.

Is the data base merely a form of identification? Yes, it would help solve cases. But, you'd have to do ALL the population, in order to be fair. We already identify the population by various photo IDS. I wonder how the Criminal World would get around this form of identification...

Free, I think Orwell meant 1984 to be a dystopian vision of a wretched future, not a policy manual for Labour Party apparatchiks.

It would seem someone has misunderstood.

"It's time for a purge of government in all areas."

Good for you for coming to this conclusion, in March 2008, Warwick. Better late than never, I guess.

For every woman in federal penitentiary in Canada there are fifty men.

Not unrelated, the vast majority of Mao's and Stalin's tens of millions of murder victims were men. While this is also true of Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great, neither were motivated by an ideology which deliberately sought to liquidate men from the labour force and replace them with women.

No doubt some bureaucrat will stumble upon the statistics I've provided and just outright say that men are statistically criminal and all male babies should have DNA swabs taken at birth. I will, as usual, be the only person on the planet Earth to provide a statistically and historically grounded argument to the contrary. So it goes.

ET said: "I wonder how the Criminal World would get around this form of identification..."

The usual way, O Great One. They'll grease the nearest corrupt official. Won't be a tough search either, socialists love corruption. Crack too, and hookers, they loooove their hookers.

I concur with your dismay regarding this apparent abandonment of the holy Tabula Rasa theory of human behavior by the Left. It seems like only yesterday the Left were burning E.O. Wilson in effigy, today they're building a DNA monument to Sociobiology and throwing the Sacred Mother Margaret Mead and Saint Foucalt et al under the train.

It'd be funnier if they weren't dead serious about it.

Minority Report, hey chaps, it was only a movie. If they want to find the criminally inclines try checking the dudes with the bombs in their vests or the ones with a dozen wives on welfare. Geeesh.

"And yet, the U. S. remains the evil empire." - Yeah, how about that iowavette?! It's an amazing inversion of reason, common sense and traditional Western morality.

We lead in the liberation of Iraq and Afghanistan and our "allies" in Europe consider us the evil SOBs. Apparently, they must think that the Afghans were better off under the Taliban and the Iraqis were better off under Saddam & Co.

I gave up even trying to reason with people of that mentality. As Lincoln said, "Never argue with a fool. Other people might not be able to tell the difference between you."

Socialists and Eugenics ..... funny how they always seem to come together isn't it!

"We have to find who are possibly going to be the biggest threat to society.'" (ibid)

The logical next step is to prevent this coming about.

This is the rationale used by the eugenics, aka abortion movement; to breed better human beings.

This is also the aim/goal of the socialist movement; to build an utopia of better human beings; better in every way, body and soul.
Stalin, aka Koba, the paranoid megalomaniac, the Death Angel, was known also as the "engineer of human souls".
It's socialism's attempt to build heaven on earth; in practice, it becomes hell on earth.

Think what the socialist could do with this, in thier endeavour to rid the world of poverty, the prerequisite of crime. Hell, why wait until their five, have them aborted before they get out of the starting gate.

just tatoo a barcode to their foreheads at age 1.

It'll be really cool tat and the surveillance cameras can be programmed to read the code and spit out the correct identity.

Easy-peazy :)

All that is left now is to broaden the definition of a "threat" or a "crime".

Britain is slowing descending into tyranny.

After the Second World War children born from German solders who occupied such Scandinavian countries such as Sweden and Norway were taken from their mother and put into prison type schools. The fear was that these children would have the ideals passed down from their German fathers. One of the female singers of the Swedish group ABBA, (the brunet one) was the daughter of a German soldier. Here mother who was Swedish or Norwegian avoided her daughter being taken away and fled. I think many years later the women from ABBA did end up meeting her German father.

So do they use the death penalty on them just in case?

what would that famous genetics expect Dr. Suzuki think of this?

If you didnt have a greenie parent or your parent was a politian other than PET, could you be locked up without a carbon credit to stand on?

So do they use the death penalty on them just in case?

That is after all the reason some use for condoning abortions,

Maybe kill everyone just to be safe.

For starters they should fly across the pond and register the young boys who appeared on the Obama video, posted below.

Menacing eyes; troubled expressions -- they were scary.

My wife tells her family that are back in Britain about these news releases and they usually tell her she is nuts and that it must be an April Fools Joke played by the "Evil American and Canadian Right Wing Kooks". They hardly ever seem to hear about these things or when they do it is feed to them by the BBC which discribes the new law or government program as a good thing for everyone. My wifes family is about as right wing as they come in Britain and they are completely asleep at the switch,(they call themselves conservative, but they call me a complete rightwing kook, but I am really no more right wing than Micheal Savage). If right wingers are as brainwashed as the left, then I hold out no hope for the once great nation.

Hmmm, what about the in-bred offspring of a certain broad-strata of British society? They'll be showing some erratic behaviour from the get-go.

"NO ABBA" you say.
Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Not to seem naive or anything, but doesn't this proposal totally contradict the left's assertion that crime flows from poverty and social environment? Seems that simply following up on the little blighters causing shit at preschool/elementary school would yield the same info...

since males cause 90% of the crime, cant we just kill them and we wouldnt have bother testing everyone.

the greatest threat to the future of this planet is liberalism

Once they identify the potential criminals they can charge them for crimes they would have committed and put the little bastards in Jail straight away.

Perhaps they should ask the offended by a puppet Gypsy population to whip out their crystal balls the lend a hand. That would help create employment for them.

Britain is too far gone to ever come back. They will all deserve what the Muzzies do to them once the take over is complete.

Speaking of muzzies,would it not be a good idea to take a DNA swab from everyone that belongs to a gang,oops,I mean religion that advocates the killing of homosexuals,forced marriage of children, and anyone who doesn't believe in their religion? Now that would get the leftards fuming about 'rights'.

Criminologists say some people will grow out of crime; others won't. We have to find who are possibly going to be the biggest threat to society.'

Who is the biggest threat to society? WHO? These idiots who are proposing this are the threat that should be dealt with.

So, you're a kid, who gets in trouble at school sometimes, maybe you come from a low income family, or you're Dad has a criminal record. After some incident you are informed that you will be forced to submit you're DNA to be stored because you have been identified as displaying a high risk of future criminal behavioral.

Exactly what kind of a future would a child in this situation think he has? Of course he's not going to become all he could have. The government has identified him since childhood as a failure.

Hey, they could tattoo, um, er, engine serial numbers on their forearms so they know which ones were tested and passed...

Ah, the Lefty brain trust heard from. What kept ya, Skippy?

So Skip, dude. As a mindless Leftist troll you seem to represent the average Brit these days. What are your views on a national DNA database that looks for "potential offenders", in children, "the younger the better"?

Just wondered if you'd taken time out from being "clever" to cogitate for a millisecond on the actual subject.

And in england the food police run rampant all over forcing their idiotic diet stuff on the people

Phantom, you standing downwind of the smelters again? "mindless Leftist troll"... Hmm. Apparently you haven't been paying attention for the last three years, or is it just a temporary eye-brain co-ordination thingy...

"We have to find who are possibly going to be the biggest threat to society."

Have they looked in the mirror lately?