More on this broad strata "faith hate" incident;
Canon Michael Ainsworth, 57, was kicked and punched in the head as one of the attackers screamed "f***ing priest".He was left lying on the ground with deep cuts, bruising and two black eyes.
The attack took place in the early evening after Canon Ainsworth politely asked three Asian youths who had gathered in the churchyard to quieten down.
Another group of youths intervened to protect him and they helped him into the rectory as the attackers fled.
The incident happened outside St George-in-the-East Church in Wapping, East London.
It has regularly had windows smashed by youths - who on one occasion shouted: "This should not be a church, this should be a mosque."
My old neighbourhood!
It's actually quite an upscale area. Wapping flats along the Thames typically go for over a million pounds and it's only a few minutes's walk from the financial centre of Canary Wharf.
Yet, it also abuts an area of government housing provided to the poor, which in this case is made up primarily of immigrants from Bangladesh.
I loved London, loved the area, but after having a child and constantly being exposed to the amount of mindless thuggery and sheer awfulness of modern Britain, we had to leave. Like so many others these days.
Posted by: chip at March 18, 2008 11:48 AMSomehow, just somehow - a leftie is going to come along and call us all a bunch of right wing hypocrites for even talking about this muslim attack story.
Muslims, whoops did the article even mention that word? Well, considering while they were beating him and demanding a mosque, yah -I'll take that leap and say it was muslims. Call me a stereotyper I guess!!
Then the lefties will go on to say that what else can be expected of these poor, dis-enfranchised people whom the rest of society has black-listed and won't even sell a pair of shoes to. It's our fault, no -even better, it's the priest's fault for even criticising their faith and culture (and by criticising I mean: not partaking of)
Then, well let your imagination go wild and a leftie will still come along and amaze you with mental gymnastics!!
Posted by: Frenchie77 at March 18, 2008 12:00 PMSome times a cigar is just a cigar.
I don't see this as a symptom of the larger problem. In this case it seems quite clear drugs and common delinquency are the more likely cause of the attack. In another neighborhood it would be skinheads stomping someone. The common element is pointless violence fueled by drugs with some "cause" giving them "respectability" among themselves.
Posted by: EricP at March 18, 2008 12:06 PMhmmmmm I wonder what Camilla will look like in a Burqa ?
Posted by: Fred at March 18, 2008 12:11 PMJust to be clear... Creeping Sharia is a problem. People preemptively censoring themselves and others for fear of Muslim violence is a problem. However thuggery fueled by drugs is likely just thuggery fueled by drugs.
Posted by: EricP at March 18, 2008 12:11 PMBetter, Fred. She'll look -much- better.
Posted by: The Phantom at March 18, 2008 12:22 PM"Anti-islamic activity" or Christianiphobia?
P.S. I sent the following comment to the Daily Mail and it wasn't printed.....
Posted by: lynne at March 18, 2008 12:33 PMFred writes, "hmmmmm I wonder what Camilla will look like in a Burqa ?"
My answer, More pleasing to the eye
Posted by: Stephen at March 18, 2008 12:34 PMThink how this story would have been handled had it been about an attack on gays, muslims, or blacks by a gang of skinhead neo-nazis.
Because it is an attack on a white male, the motivation of the attacker is not explored in any detail, for fear of offending those whom the liberal mainstream media have designated as helpless "victims". Notice, as well, that no attempts are made to ascertain any trends for this type of violence, nor are we told of any past violent incidents in the same geographical area.
As far as the MSM is concerned, any action, no matter how gruesome, can be excused if the perpetrator fits into the correct racial or cultural category. In that case, the perpetrator is exempt from blame because they are said to be merely "reacting" to past or present "oppression".
Posted by: Dennis at March 18, 2008 12:40 PMYou're all a bunch of right wing hypocrites for even talking about this muslim attack story.
What else can be expected of these poor, dis-enfranchised people whom the rest of society has black-listed and won't even sell a pair of shoes to?
You should walk a mile in their shoes, but you won't because they don't have any, but you wouldn't even if you could (which you can't, but won't), will you?
sign me,
/Leftie
Posted by: Richard Ball at March 18, 2008 1:30 PMMost of the MSM are brain-dead. Certainly they have no standards by which to judge right from wrong--though they're nearly always able to judge right from left.
Geesh.
Everything is "equivlent," that is unless a protected multi-culti group such as gays (yup, they qualify for some unknown reason), Muslims, or any group that isn't either Jewish or Christian, is involved in unsavoury behaviour. Then, it's "oh, those poor people, so downtrodden, so discriminated against, yada, yada, yada...No wonder they beat that guy up, perfectly justified..."
A Clockwork Orange sure got it right...er left...er...IT'S HAPPENING...IN OUR STREETS...IN THE WEST...
A Civilization on the skids for sure. 'Any awakening from this nightmare?
Posted by: batb at March 18, 2008 1:31 PMThe Hapsburgs had it right in spain a while back...
Posted by: Warwick at March 18, 2008 1:35 PMPriests told to remove their dog collars; military personnel at RAF Wittering told to avoid wearing their uniforms to avoid being targeted.
Next: lose the British accent, and avoid public places.
Posted by: EBD at March 18, 2008 2:19 PMChip>
“My old neighbourhood! It's actually quite an upscale area”
Hence the reports mention that:
"There are a lot of 14 to 16-year-old Asians, drunk and high on cocaine, wandering round the estate.”
It only goes to show that no matter how much money, lifestyle and opportunity the left wants to pay off these Muslim thugs with ransom (your money) these birds will never change their feathers. After 5000 years of advancement and 1000 years of supremicy the standard bearer of modern society is collapsing before our eye’s within 30 years. How can any reasonable western country not steer away from Europeans failed Immigration policies and delusional mulicultural fantasys. Asian countey’s do not suffer these afflictions and as a consequence will be the enheritors of the earth. Is G8 Japan taking on this sickness or Taiwan? Conservitive UK take some notes!
Fred>
"hmmmmm I wonder what Camilla will look like in a Burqa ?"
Muuuuch better!
Posted by: Knight 99 at March 18, 2008 2:46 PMcome on, young asian men can't be muslim can they?
Posted by: old white guy at March 18, 2008 3:03 PMlynne, i sent a comment as well. it was not printed. don't need to hear the truth, don't ya know.
Posted by: old white guy at March 18, 2008 3:05 PMTime to take it back to them ...and dont forget to dip your rounds in pigsblood first.
Posted by: FREE at March 18, 2008 4:13 PMI'm surprised the report didn't call it aggravated assault......
Posted by: OMMAG at March 18, 2008 4:48 PMThe Islamique Republik of Britain's capital will be in Brussels Eurabia.
Posted by: philanthropist at March 18, 2008 5:07 PMOld white guy @3:05, same here sort of, I commented on the news site asking if an 'Asian' Imam at a mosque was attacked like this, do they think the response would be as calm?
They did not post my comment.
Posted by: ldd at March 18, 2008 6:17 PMDamn where is Kinsella surely this is worse than Graffiti?
Or is he an endophobic and sees it only through his bigotry thus it's ok.
I'm surprised the report didn't call it aggravated assault......
What, it's an obvious hate crime.
/sarc
Maybe they should blame the priest for the 400 + yrs of Islamic aggression before the crusades.
primarily of immigrants from Bangladesh.
Then they would be Muslims, no.
Chip just vote to decrease immigration here m-kay. So we don't get the mindless thuggery Kinsella wants because unless your country is awful you are a hater just like Kinsella thinks King was.
Posted by: dinosaur at March 18, 2008 6:19 PMhmmmmm I wonder what Camilla (the dutchess of clydsdale)will look like in a Burqa ?
Better!
Your outrage at this incident is of course justified, but where was it during this one: 3w.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article544907.ece
...or this one: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6051180.stm
...or this one: 3w.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/imam-attacked-as-antimuslim-violence-grows-461483.html?
FYI French77 -- you're hypocritical not for talking about this incident, but for not talking about all the others.
Posted by: Karch at March 18, 2008 8:02 PM>
>
> Here is a woman who should run for Prime Minister!
>
> Written by a housewife in New Brunswick, to her
> local newspaper. This is one ticked off lady.
>
> 'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or
> was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to
> our
> shores on September 11, 2001 and have continually
> threatened to do so since?
>
> Were people from all over the world, not brutally
> murdered
> that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from
> the nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?
>
> Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a
> horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't
> they?
>
> And I'm supposed to care that a a few Taliban were
> claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the
> nation
> they come from and are fighting against in a brutal
> insurgency.
>
> I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in
> and repents for incinerating all those innocent people
> on
> 9/11.
>
> I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the
> Middle
> East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief
> of
> which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan.
>
> I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry
> for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed
> through his gurgling slashed throat.
>
> I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in
> Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of
> disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.
>
> I'll care when the mindless zealots who blows themselves
> up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children
> within range of their suicide bombs.
>
> I'll care when the Canadian media stops pretending that
> their freedom of speech on stories is more important
> than
> the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their
> families
> waiting a home to hear about them when something
> happens.
>
> In the meantime, when I hear a story about a CANADIAN
> soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain
> information, know this:
> I don't care.
>
> When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when
> he is told not to move because he might be
> booby-trapped,
> you can take it to the bank:
> I don't care.
>
> When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and
> a
> prayer mat, and fed 'special' food that is paid for by
> my
> tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being
> 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart
> of
> hearts:
>
> I don't care.
>
> And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's
> spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy
> Crack Corn you guessed it,
>
> I don't care!!
>
> If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all
> your
> E-mail friends Sooner or later, it'll get to the people
> responsible for this ridiculous behavior!
>
> If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete
> button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't
> complain when more atrocities committed by radical
> Muslims
> happen here in our great Country! And may I add:
>
> 'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they
> made a difference in the world. But, the Soldiers don't
> have that problem.'
>
> I have another quote that I would like to add
> AND.......I
> hope you forward all this.
>
> One last thought for the day:
>
> Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for
> you:
>
> 1. Jesus Christ
>
> 2. The Canadian Soldier.
>
> 3. The British Soldier.
>
> 4. The US Soldier , and
> 5. The Australian Soldier
> One died for your soul, the other 4 for your freedom.
>
> YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET
> ALL OF THEM.
> AMEN!
Karch - FYI French77 -- you're hypocritical not for talking about this incident, but for not talking about all the others.
What, you mean :
a)the other incidents that support the viewpoint that there is increasing muslim aggression in the UK or,
b) other incidents that support the viewpoint of muslim victimisation?
Hypocrite, really, as I was posting in response to this story in particular.
Again, here comes the moral relativism, because I didn't comment on a story I had never seen thus I am not allowed to comment on a story I have seen.
Or : muslims kill 50 people in londong bombing but because there are over 500 "hate crimes" where, my god, people got spit it on or punched in the head then no-one possibly has the right to comment on or even be concerned about muslim attacks.
Worse than that, we even have to be careful not to aggravate the muslims becuase then they have an excuse to attack us back.
Violence is rising in the UK big-time, getting spat on or punched or slapped is no longer even reported by most people as there is no point, the police will never apprehend someone. However, turn it into a hate crime and you force the police to act (and hence it then appears in their statistics as a hate crime when a lot of it was just run of the mill UK violence).
Posted by: Frenchie77 at March 19, 2008 4:44 AM