I'm sorry...you suggested don't say a word...but..

if he is their last hope ...there is real concern for the blacks of America.That was was very difficult to listen to.Not much different than Rev. Wright.

I meant it just as a form of hyperbole ...

Well, for all the bluster, he does have a point. Like Bill Cosby said, quit playing the victim. And he's right about Obama. How can he so easily and frequently play the black card when his mother is lilly white. It's pathetic. Is he ashamed of his mom's skin colour?

Earth to Obama, you're not black.

Nutty as a fruitcake if you ask me.

irwin daisy..just curious did you listen to the whole thing...?
I thought he went downhill from the 'white mama' comment...a very steep hill.

Right on and strait up Bruuuutha!! I love this guy, makes me want to go back to church. Tell it like it is and keeping it real that’s what is needed. By the by I didn’t know who that nappy headed obomba was until I saw it on a pair of Double Ds myself, peace out and god bless reverend.

I would put this clown in the same group with the fanatic muslims .

My Christian God teaches me to love others and to try to look for the good in others. However, I do not find much love emanating from the words of this Minister nor, indeed, those words I have heard from Obama's Reverend Wright.

Dr. Martin Luther King's dream was not a message of hate. That is why his words continue to resonate over the decades.

"That long-legged freak Obama"... I'm offended on behalf of those with long legs.

The Clintons are pulling out all the stops. When this is done the Democrats are going to be exhausted, divided, and broke.

Well at least he was against affirmative action!

You think he is bad? Check out Louis Farakhan sometime. This nutjob thinks that seven UFOs travel around wherever he goes poised to kill whitey if he tries to touch him. One day the UFOs will obliterate whitey off the face of the earth and then Farakhans followers will take over.

Well now, I am conflicted...I liked and agreed with a number of the messages he delivered. But part of me has the opinion that this guy is a raving lunatic (particularly "the take them to the mountain and cut off their heads" bit)...

Curious...

Oh, Oh, that 'nappy' word again. Is he out of a job?

This guy would make an excellent pastor at the new "Afrocentric" school starting in Toronto.

Tom>

“This guy would make an excellent pastor at the new "Afrocentric" school starting in Toronto.”

I’m sort of under the impression he would turn down a position at the Toronto school for little white girls.

But that’s just me.

Try as I might I couldn't listen to the whole thing. Certain thoughts kept coming to mind like: Where did this guy get his Phd? and what church ordained him? I'm certainly no Obama fan but I would hope that I would never resort to that kind of trash preaching.

The only consolation I received from this is it reinforces my conviction not to wear a clerical collar, or parade my academic credentials when I preach.

Well, I wuz gonna sorta commend him for his observation about Affirmative Action which is a racist programme ... but then he mentioned Hussein's trash 'cos he got a white momma and he said some very unflattering things about big t*ts and that was the last straw for me ...

Joe: I bailed too. All sparks no fire, all sizzle no steak, like too much black pop music today, all frantic caterwauling no real passion, all faux emotion, mistrel show.

I lasted a whole 2 minutes or so........

If I HAD to say a word, that word would be ummmm Or maybe just the sound of a world class 'blink'.......

"Prophesy, Pastor Manning!"

I couldn't watch it all. Seems to be quite a self-aggrandizing fellow with too much fire and brimstone talk. What's with calling Obama a pimp and long legged freak? No pastor I know gives a sermon where he insults any of his brothers and sisters in Christ. I may not agree with Obama's policies but I won't resort to calling him nasty names.

Griff>

"No pastor I know gives a sermon where he insults any of his brothers and sisters in Christ"

Maybe he thinks he's insulting a brother in Mohammed?

WOW! Wait until John West sees this. I can hardly wait.

Joe:

I wondered the same thing, thinking that perhaps his Phd was from a degree mill. But apparently he was educated at the Union Theological Seminary in NYC, an apparently well-regarded school that's been around for nearly 200 years...

OK...but whats a 'Mac Daddy...?

A "Mac Daddy" is considered to be the king of the pimps....

Don't ask me why...

"Macareux" is French slang for a pimp, don't ask me why...

"Mac Daddy" is slang for "pimp", but this guy is on the ragged edge of reality as it is; the woman ("54DDs") in the video he's ranting about certainly doesn't appear to be white.

The "player lovers" line was priceless. Excellent voice projection too. I didn't really get his Obama rant, it had kind of a eugnenics, racist quality to it. Anyway, he's not exorting anyone to violence, unless you want to stretch his Elijah thing. I didn't like his come to me to hear what God wants BS either. He's got his men pegged though, at least in an inner city context.

I got the impression he is a Hillary supporter. Anyway, I personally don't like clergy going out on the political limb anyway. Like Gregory Peck's character, Gen Frank Savage, said in "Twelve O'Clock High," said to his padre who stowawayed on a mission - "Padre, your mission is sin; in the future you will confine yourself to that theatre of operations."

Why did you post this, Celestial Junk? I am dumb and I don't get your point.

The guy is great! At least you know where he stands. Can you truly say the same thing for Obama??

I find Bush more scary.

John:

It's so over the top ... so bizzare ... so racist ... yet laced with snippets of truth. At the same time, I couldn't get images of Don Imus out of my head ...

If you go to the website and read the mission statement, it would seem that the general idea is that blacks leave vice behind, get to work, become good Christians, and take control of Harlem through economic responsibility.

The screed in the vid is too loopy for that idea to get across though.

I posted it as a point of discussion ... because it doesn't lend itself in the usual left vs right division. I think the comments so far demonstrate that.

After all the black preachers I have heard this week just a shoutin' and yellin' one thing and another in some form of Ebonics those black folks must be very confused. I know I am. So, I have a few questions ... hep me bro ...

- Is it okay to be black with a white mama?

- Is it okay to be a Clinton supporter if 'they' didn't put a quarter billion in your neighborhood?

- Is it okay to have long legs and be in politics?

- Is the god of the black people really that politically challenged?

- Why do they call places where this political shouting takes place all day long a church?

- Is this whole thing just a bad dream? I hope so.

- Who is actually going to vote for the Obama loons other than the apparent chicks with really big tits?

I will wait for some help here.

Yes yes yes AQS, we all know that Bush is the anti-Christ.

I guess you had to drop in some completely un-related comment, since all us ,hidden agenda, scary right wingers are not living up to your expectations wrt this idiot.

Warren Kinsella meets Willis from Different Strokes.

Just add cocktail and mix.

This disgusting game of identity politics is being waged - can you believe it? - on the left.

I love hearing these black preachers let 'er rip.

Holy 'All over the map' Batman! Just when I thought this guy was looney tunes it turns out he has a Phd. Then I thought "In what? Assholology?".

Then he started to make sense. Next I was thinking he might just be a great stand-up comedian type. Then back to that Phd thing. Wow.

All throughout, the "I've got something in my mouth thing" (methinks Monica beat him to it)

I just wish I could speak that well in public. As long as I was delivering a coherent message.

All in all, I give it two thumbs up! (just because I want to)

I have conflicting thoughts about a lot of what he says,but the underlying message is that blacks are being led down the garden path AGAIN by another phony.His message(to me)is that you are a racist fool if you cannot look past a man's skin colour,vote for substance not for colour.

Jeez, what a "Piss" Head! Sort of a pep rally in the form of poop from the pulpit and racist to the core.

Wow!!! This is just surreal. Here we have the good Rev Wright (make that Wrong) and now this complete nutbar and the Dem's say that the problem is with the right-wing religious Right??? What in f__k am I missing here?? Maybe, just maybe, this is a turning point where "right thinkers" will be able too point to these absolute hysterical idiots as the norm for the Democratic party. Compared to these monsters the likes of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell look like choir boys. Lets hear from you, you fanatical and lunatic Democrats and all other leftards!!!!

John West>
Hope this helps……………..

Is it okay to be black with a white mama?
Yes, if your mama don’t dance & daddy don’t rock & roll.

- Is it okay to be a Clinton supporter if 'they' didn't put a quarter billion in your neighborhood?
No, because that rhymes with quarter pounder and I got kids to feed.

- Is it okay to have long legs and be in politics?
Yes, so long as you’re under the desk most of the time.

- Is the god of the black people really that politically challenged?
Not really an affirmative horse will always lead to water

- Why do they call places where this political shouting takes place all day long a church?
Tax break.

- Is this whole thing just a bad dream? I hope so.
Nope this is Dr Martin Luther Kings dream.

- Who is actually going to vote for the Obama loons other than the apparent chicks with really big tits?
Chicks with big booty

I will wait for some help here.

I have conflicting thoughts about a lot of what he says,but the underlying message is that blacks are being led down the garden path AGAIN by another phony.His message(to me)is that you are a racist fool if you cannot look past a man's skin colour,vote for substance not for colour.

Posted by: wallyj at March 16, 2008 9:40 PM

True enough, wallyj, but when the only choice for substance is a Clinton, what "substance" are you referring to?

This guy is obviously angry, disturbed, and obsessed with race.

Hateful ranting reflects poorly on no one but himself.

Was this Dion's parish priest?

Oh...my....God...(no pun intended.) Okay, I'll say nothing more...

I had the good fortune of being brought up in the deep South West of Ontario. In this area many of our neighbours, friends and family were children of the underground railway. The African influence was/is very positive and we are very grateful for the gifts they have given us. One of the greatest gifts of the African community has been their steadfast faith in a God revealed through Jesus of the New Testament.
His message was one of love, responsibility, duty, obedience and commitment. It has also been a message that consistantly taught the importance of not passing judgement on others, but of measuring one's own life and setting an example.

http://buxtonmuseum.com/History/baptist_church_history.html

Jim O'Brien>

"being brought up in the deep South West of Ontario."

Sounds like rocking on an antebellum porch sipping sarsaparilla and petting a hound dog. How pleasant.

Knight 99: Sounds like you've never visited. Come and see for yourself. You will find no antebellum... just wonderful productive, gorgeous land north of the Lake, kind people, good food and drink. Enjoy!

No indeed I haven't but I plan to one day. Good luck.

Interesting clip from 2:08-2:11.

Deut. 18:20 "But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."

Knight 99 - You will always be welcome. If you want some history come during the Labour Day weekend. Buxton has a parade, homecoming, celebration and learning time (as well as great food and drink.)

I'm used to these kinds of preachers (and the truth is I like them because they don't pull punches).

Basically he's saying "Quit relying on handouts and false leaders (like Obama, Clinton, etc.) because you need to stand up and be accountable and Christian. Stop blaming everyone else, and look to yourself for why there is a problem, why you have been slaves for so long."

It's kind of surreal because in a lot of ways it is true for all of us.

I think the best gift we recieved from the African American community is Jazz, Funk, Rhythm and Blues, Motown, Aretha, The Impressions, The Temptations, Stevie Wonder, The Great Phil Perry, John Coltrane, Count Bassey, Ray Brown, Oscar Peterson, Ray Charles, and a cast of thousands.

There are no better singers with the most fabulous voices than what he hear from the Black community.

Some white soul singer have done the genre justice such a Michael MacDonald of the Doobs, and my old friend Doug Mallory from Dr. Music to name two.

Black Mucians and singers are largely responsible for the development of the popular music unique to North America. Although what some white people did to Rock and Roll by way of Punk Rock, Acid Rock and other abominations is lamentable.

I won't even start with the great athletes.

I think he really only got one thing even close to right. I agree with others that his comments on affirmative action are generally in the correct direction. My comments on the remainder of the message follows.

I have a much narrower view than many concerning what constitutes genuine Christianity. Yet, I do not always reveal those thoughts on blogs such as this because I am aware that many blog participants do not themselves have sufficient Scriptural knowledge to evaluate the issue. This is one of those times I feel quite confident in stating that this man is not a minister of the Christian faith, whatever else he may be.

Although his profanity is mild by some standards, that manner of speech is out of place for a Christian.
Colossians 4
5 Conduct yourselves with wisdom toward outsiders, making the most of the opportunity.
6 Let your speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person.
I Peter 4
11 Whoever speaks, is to do so as one who is speaking the utterances of God; whoever serves is to do so as one who is serving by the strength which God supplies; so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

Many have already noted the racist tones of Mr. Manning. Perhaps others would like to examine this on his web site:
God is returning world power to the dark-skinned, kinky-haired people, and when they rise, they shall institute a level of superiority that cannot be denied nor rivaled by the existing world.
http://atlah.org/ministries/fatherham.html
It is my estimation that most people know that this is quuite at odds with the message of Scripture.

I was glad that the video carried on long enough until he said what he said at the end. It was at the very end that he said "I'm your last hope". This is the most deterministic statement this man made about his real credentials as a minister of the Christian faith. In view of Scripture, a Christian would not have made the statements he made. These first two referring to "no hope" clearly describe those outside the faith.

Ephesians 2
11 Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called "Uncircumcision" by the so-called "Circumcision," which is performed in the flesh by human hands--
12 remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
13 But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
I Thessalonians 4
13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope.

There are simply too many verses to describe the hope of the Christian. Three will suffice.

Colossians 1
27 to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
1 Thessalonians 2
19 For who is our hope or joy or crown of exultation? Is it not even you, in the presence of our Lord Jesus at His coming?
1 Timothy 1
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,

2 Peter 2
1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
3 and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

John West: Absolutely - another incredible gift!

Brent Weston...Amen! and thank you.

False teaching is weakening the Body.That causes more problems than atheism.The Sword is the best way to identify counterfeits.

You are welcome and thank you. I was listening to a message recently on Ephesians 6. The man mentioned that the Sword is both a defensive weapon and an offensive weapon.

You are correct about tares and false teachers compared to atheism. An atheist is honest about his beliefs.

In Canada, the church would have its charitable status revoked in an instant. :)

Not sure what all this means, but I enjoyed the parts where he rips Obama, affirmative action, and slick willie.

And of course the shots of the gals with big tits ... hard to get enough o that.

I'm going with: He's the black Obi Wan Kanobi ... help me obi wan ... your're our only hope.

Whatdya think 99?

Heh... where I go to church, preaching involves actually caring what the Bible has to say. Not just putting on a gown and acting like you ARE God.

Well' he would make a good shock jock. I wonder which is worse, a guy who yells and hollers like this character or the spin doctors who are smooth slick and deadly in the messages that they cloak in moral garments.
At least this guy can be seen and heard for what he is. The subliminal messages scare me more.
Dr Goebels would have prefered the spin doctors that Mr Obama employs as they entrap you without obvious substance.
think about it!

Freedom Fan>

I think it’s commendable when anyone speaks his or her mind, whether we like the message or not. He speaks for his black community and is passionate about it; they need some butt kicking from more of their leaders instead of 50 cent and Tupac.

My opinion was he was very accurate with his 500-year portrait and “where has it gotten you”, obviously something needs to change and continued reliance on government subsistence and faked scholastic grades are not the answer.

He also beat up white women, the reason? Watch the television, do you see any “successful” black man without a beautiful white woman on his arm? What do you think that presents to a young black mans physic and ideals of success? What does that do for a black woman’s self esteem?

Blacks in America have it the worst with the illegal Mexican invasion of America. Not only loosing their jobs and traditional communities, but also they are competing with another minority which now outnumbers them. The Mexicans could care less about black civil rights and as a matter of fact have hijacked them for their own advantage. The average Mexicans are far more racist to blacks than any modern white society completing a very bleak picture for the future of blacks in America.

I would say the old reverend clearly sees the coming future for his people and is fighting back with everything he knows how………….You asked.

Knight 99

I am still laughing.

thanks,

JW

Pretty entertaining, the thing that amazed me was the stylish robes. Why do Christians like to dress up like Darth Vaders bodyguards? (especially the fundementalist types)

An aside to Jim O'Brien about Ontario's (Canada's) 'deep south'. I was just thinking how similar the landscape in south west Ontario is (in terms of flatness and fertility of the land and look) to the Mississippi delta and specifically in the area between Memphis and Clarkesdale (birthplace of the blues, the 'crossroads', etc.). There's a potential angle there.

Don't really know what to make of this clip. What was interesting to me was looking at all the people behind him in pseudo-religious garb and grouped in together in ways to look religious and authoritative. They were keeping straight faces so they must be buying the stuff.

HaHaHa!

Say it Rebren',say it!

Sheeit!

I could listen to this guy all day

Um K. That's why you are the master of insight, Mr. Knight!

But I still liked the big tits.

Yea, me too Freedom Fan, me too.......

really like the line..."don't have the sense to pour piss out of a boot!" - gotta find a way to use that one tomorro at the ofice somehow..

The thing that I find amazing that is going on and on, and on and on, is that everybody but White Christian Males can say anything about anybody, in no uncertain terms, and it's cool.

I try it and I'm a racist, homophobic, sexist Islamophobe, to name a few of the titles I'd have.

Very strange brew. Unhealthy for people like me for sure.

That's the most authentically conservative speech I've heard in a looooong time; helluva world we live in that a black Harlem preacher is apparently the last conservative standing in America.

Hey you don't go to a black church to hear Billy Graham. Like Al Gore says, sometimes you have exaggerate to get your point across, send money and vote for Hillary.

Report him to a Human Rights Commission.

I'm speechless...

This guy is a walking advertisement for pride, wrath, and a goodly number of the other seven deadly sins. His whole attitude says:

"It's just you and me, God.. though I'm not so sure about you."

The First Amendment to the Constitution is alive and well.

Praise the Lord.

Beneath the fire and brimstone, there is certainly an element of truth regarding the state of African-American society today. 500 years later, they are still at the bottom, and Mexican-Americans will surely surpass them in every way.

As an aside, I felt fleeting pangs of sympathy for my ex. His wife carries on like this every day....pity!

Those aren't "54 DDs" 32F/G, maybe. No man finds a 54 band size attractive. :P