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March 5, 2008

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Posted by Kate at March 5, 2008 12:01 AM
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Any info about the "2008 Baby Seal Slaughter" season planned this year? How's the ice? When does it start? What's the quota?

Posted by: wannabe_newfie_clubber at March 5, 2008 12:12 AM

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to SDA Late Nite Radio. Tonight, in honour of The Misogynisphere, we have for your delectation Mr. Carlos Santana and the boys performing their classic Black Magic Woman in 1971:

video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1281281204175092927

Posted by: Vitruvius at March 5, 2008 12:27 AM

Finnish cartoonist Seppo Lehto films himself drawing Mohammed as a "pig pedophile prophet" and posts it on Youtube.

h/t Gates of Vienna

Posted by: Lydia at March 5, 2008 1:10 AM

From the Desk of Stephen Harper:

http://rickmercer.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/3/4

Posted by: lberia at March 5, 2008 1:39 AM

wannabe_newfie_clubber >

"How's the ice?" Thick but slippery, wear steel cleats.

"When does it start?" TBA usually the first week of April.

"What's the quota?" TBA 2007 was 270,000 - 2006 was 335000!

You could probably get more volume per day if you skin them on the ice and pack them like sandwiches. Opposed to skinning them in the bath tub at home.


Posted by: Knight 99 at March 5, 2008 1:49 AM

Iberia. What's your point? That movies should not get tax credits. I agree. Why should I subsidize some flake making a crappy movie. Cancel all gov't funding for movies for all I care, not just pornographic ones. And while you're at it cancel CBC funding too. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Steven Harpaar

Posted by: johnboy at March 5, 2008 1:51 AM

PS/ Rick Mercer just ain't that funny. He's not witty, he's not intelligent. He's ascerbic. I'll give him that. And a socialist. But that's not much going for him. In the real world I suspect he would be bagging groceries. He really should be a lot more appreciative of all that the Cdn government has done for him. He should be licking Stephen Harpers shoes that he still has an income.

Posted by: johnboy at March 5, 2008 1:56 AM

Evolution battles continue:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_education_edblog/2008/03/will-we-be-hear.html

Posted by: Alienated at March 5, 2008 2:11 AM

European forces have had their first run in with the Sudanese in Darfur. French troops met them and ran away after the first few shots, leaving one of their soldiers behind.

This is the war the NDP wanted us to lead. Can you imagine what they'd be saying today if that was a Canadian soldier missing in the Sahara?

More here: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/04/europe/EU-GEN-France-EUFOR-Chad.php

Posted by: Robert Jago at March 5, 2008 2:33 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ

More on the immigration issue, American perspective.

Posted by: Lori at March 5, 2008 4:47 AM

Another [attempted] honour killing in Canada.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080305.STAB05/TPStory/TPNational/Ontario/

Man stabbed 14 year old daughter.

I'm fed up with "diversity". What exactly is the benefit for Canada to import these cultures here?
Maybe it way past due to shut the doors and start having large families of our own.

Posted by: Shrug at March 5, 2008 5:01 AM

SDA readers will not be surprised to learn that the CBC's morning news carried a piece on the low voter turnout in the recent Alberta election. The report emphasized the calculation that Premier Stelmach won the support of only 22% of eligible voters and interviewed a representative of some worthily named but unknown think-tank predictably rabbiting on about proportional representation.

Despite the rejection of p.r. by the voters in a couple of provinces, the great and the good and, I suspect, a majority of political science professors, are in love with the idea of p.r., and like those partisans of the European Union, will keep bringing the issue back after every election they lose.

Posted by: Roseberry at March 5, 2008 6:43 AM

I'm with you, johnboy, on Mercer. I've heard he's gay and I think he lives near the Danforth, so he's got two trendy bona fides to his name.

But humour? No. 'Just what passes for humour at the ol' Mothercorpse.

Boy, I wish we could put a lid on the CBC, the no-news, no-humour, all-propaganda, all-paid-for-by-the-poor-beleaguered-Canadian taxpayer broadcaster.

No one's laughing but Mercer--all the way to the bank.

Posted by: batb at March 5, 2008 7:11 AM

Proportional representation is the battle cry of the sore loser.

Kate: Congrats on nearing 8,000,000! This place has become my 'morning coffee'.

Posted by: Eskimo at March 5, 2008 7:20 AM

the CBC, 1 BILLION in taxpayer dollars goes to subsidize this entity, WHAT would you rather have? the CBC or 1 BILLION more for HEALTH care

Posted by: dj at March 5, 2008 8:01 AM

What was Liberal Citoyen Dion's budget policy?
What was the Liberal "strategy"?
Empty seats; cut'n'run; hiding behind the curtains.

"Only key Liberals showed up for the vote, including Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion, deputy leader Michael Ignatieff, House Leader Ralph Goodale, and whip Karen Redman. They were surrounded by a sea of empty green chairs where their colleagues usually sit."
"They were surrounded by a sea of empty green chairs where their colleagues usually sit."

The Liberal Party = the Hollow Party.
...-


""That was the strategy," the CBC's Susan Bonner said, reporting from Parliament. "A lot of empty seats. Most of the Liberals were in the lobby behind there, they just weren't in the Commons itself for the vote.""
Susan Bonner-CBC

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 8:26 AM

Speaking of CBC "comedy" shows, we have old and tired Air Farce, This Hour has 22 Minutes, and new farcical Little Mosque, all so CBC, something for everyone even across ethnic lines but mostly stuck on anti Conservative satire.

Mercer must have felt he had to jolt the Liberals into reality because his recent video on the Liberals was pure genius and right on the mark.
The all have plenty of material for political satire in the HOC as the Liberals play gotcha games and keep losing.

Posted by: Liz J at March 5, 2008 8:34 AM

Glad this is finally getting some attention!
CBC has been using every possible minute of our tax-paid air time to bash the bill that cuts tax breaks for the offensive crap...er...so-called art.
Ghomeshi(sp) would have us belive that all the amazing so-called artists owe their lives to these tax breaks and how would they survive without these tax breaks?( I check in to CBC occasionally while driving)
I have heard the rant on several CBC programs, and of course the artists had the audience in a rage at the Genies.Whine friggin' whine!!

Mercer and the gang are getting ready to fight.Mercer has a great wit.Too bad he's indoctrinated with CBC mentality. His best lately was a vid on the Libs, "We are adaptable"

Joel at PTBC has enlightened us over the years on most of the crap that comes from the CBC on our taxes. It's time to stop it!

If they are so artistic they can survive on their own without tax breaks.That goes for all artists. My son is trying to make a career in media, he's actually competing with these socialist sap suckers.

Posted by: bluetech at March 5, 2008 8:38 AM

Funny how the msm couldn't get enough of the author of the Cadman book,eating up his every word as the gospel truth..now that the second 'alleged' date of Cadman mtg with Cons.'operatives' had to be removed from his book, he's not so popular!C'mon Boag,go question author now,cbc seems to have lost his phone number.Haven't heard a word this a.m. on the "news"networks about this latest revelation,but not surprising seeing as it confirms what PMSH has been saying all along.
I can't wait to see the next strategic move that PMSH makes to show the Libs for the gullible fools they are!

Posted by: Sammy at March 5, 2008 8:38 AM

"What is Fascism and Who is a Fascist?
by Thomas Sowell (February 18, 2008)

Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss.Those who value substance over words, however, will find in this book a wealth of challenging insights, backed up by thorough research and brilliant analysis. This is the sort of book that challenges the fundamental assumptions of its time -- and which, for that reason, is likely to be shunned rather than criticized.

Because the word "fascist" is often thrown around loosely these days, as a general term of abuse, it is good that "Liberal Fascism" begins by discussing the real Fascism, introduced into Italy after the First World War by Benito Mussolini."
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5117

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 9:03 AM

Right,bluetech, Mercer's video on the Liberals "We are Adaptable" was hilariously poignant and continues to be apt.

Kate, how about posting the video from Mercer's site?

Posted by: Liz J at March 5, 2008 9:14 AM

You may have caught the news briefly in The National Post and on CTV News about the meeting of the minority rights (mostly English) Affiliation Quebec provincial party that was disrupted by the thuggish 'Jeunes Patriotes' group.

The Montreal Gazette quoted two paragraphs from these thugs who invaded the lobby of the hotel Ruby Foos on Decarie in Montreal (where our meeting was being held) and pushed a senior citizen to the ground, banged on the walls of an adjoining meeting room and called us, including elderly Jewish participants, 'fascists' and 'racists'.

Needless to say the Gazette didn't quote any of the words of our speakers who are urging Quebec 'angryphones' to work for future election of real representatives of our community in a minority government. In the past the English community had four independent members in the National Assembly to counter the soft nationalism of the Liberal government.

Following the subsequent day's Gazette editorial which urged anglos to support only other 'calm', appeasing representatives (subsidized in millions of dollars by the federal government, by the way, through the Quebec (English) Community Network group, I have cancelled my subscription to the Gazette. I urge others to do so as well, since this only major English daily in Quebec (the Sherbrooke Record is a local paper) refuses to fight for anglo rights, in a vain hope to appease hard and soft nationalists here.

Posted by: Nicola Timmerman at March 5, 2008 9:34 AM

Duff Connacher of Democracy Watch says he doesn't think Harper can win his case. The Liberals will be eating that and spewing it in the HOC today. He'll be their new hero of the day.

Posted by: Liz J at March 5, 2008 9:41 AM

From The Wall Street Journal Europe:

Islam and Its Critics

The latest clash between the West and the Muslim world is taking place in the Netherlands, where a yet-to-be-released film critical of Islam has already stirred protests in Afghanistan and caused a world-wide outage of YouTube when Pakistan tried to block a brief clip. No one wants a repeat of the Danish cartoon controversy, but suppressing the film, as some in Holland and the Muslim world are urging, amounts to political blackmail.

The film is by Geert Wilders, an anti-immigration Member of the Dutch Parliament who has warned about a "tsunami of Islamization" in the Netherlands, home to nearly one million Muslims...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 5, 2008 9:51 AM

Shrug: re: honour killing above:

I love how the G&M buries the story (without your link I can't even find it, even though it is a story from March 5). The Toronto Star... no mention. National Post.... story is there but no mention of the nationality or name of the people involved.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2008/03/04/girl-13-stabbed-in-her-home.aspx

Pathetic.

Posted by: Lori at March 5, 2008 9:52 AM

"Proposed Tax Cuts will cost Health Care-Premier"
ctv.ca

The war of words between Dalton & Ottawa just got better, Dalt says that if he cuts Corp Tax that this will effect Health & Education, How many time do we hear that line.
Well Dalt i guess if You actualy "Applied the Health Tax" to "HealthCare" maybe corporate Tax Cuts would not effect it as much as you say.

Posted by: bryanr at March 5, 2008 9:58 AM

UN gives Canada a smack upside the head about injection sites.

"Shut drug injection sites, Canada told.
UN body says sites 'enable' illicit use; flout treaties"

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=4dbdf0c4-7fe3-4c5e-b672-29a9ebc5ba95

Posted by: Rich at March 5, 2008 10:23 AM

The Liberal Party have a clear strategy to get them out of a Libel Lawsuit re Cadman-Harper.

They are deflecting the situation by setting up the Canadian taxpayer as the ones who will lose in a lawsuit. Not them- for their libelling of Harper. The taxpayer. How?

They are asking that the taxpayer fund their legal defense. Not the Liberal Party. The taxpayer.

The Conservative Party is funding Harper's legal case. Not the taxpayer. [Though, the MSM are already, following the Liberal strategy, claiming that since political parties are also funded by the taxpayer (1.75 per vote) then...the taxpayer is indirectly funding Harper.

So, the Liberal Party strategy to get out of responsibility for libel, is to claim that the taxpayer would have to pay for (be responsible for) the legal bill..and that IF Harper goes ahead, then, Harper is 'taking taxpayer money for his own nefarious...etc etc.'.

Neat strategy. That means that the Liberals can libel and defame all they want without taking responsibility, because they'll simply slough such on to the taxpayer...

Posted by: ET at March 5, 2008 10:37 AM

"The professor was not surprised by any of this; in effect, he had spent much of his life in a Laputan effort to extract sunbeams out of cucumbers."
...-

An Ill For Every Pill
by Theodore Dalrymple (March 2008)

I once had a conversation with an eminent professor, of great and even intimidating erudition (though, of course, erudition is not quite the same thing as talent), about the degree of man’s self-understanding. I maintained that it had not increased in any fundamental way, notwithstanding our startling technological progress, and that, in this respect, the neurosciences were greatly oversold, as in the past physiognomy, phrenology, social Darwinism and other doctrines had been oversold. ...-
http://tinyurl.com/2upuo8

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 10:39 AM

And the Letter of the Week Goes Too - "Tiff on the Left" and look Who wrote it.

Today's (03/05/08) Toronto Sun comments
Beaches-East York Liberal MP Maria Minna has been passing out phamplets in her riding Re: Budget 08
"The sooner we remove Stephen Harper the sooner we get our country back on track"
"She (minna) will not stand Idle by while this Dismanteling is Happening"

Posted by: bryanr at March 5, 2008 10:45 AM

ET: I saw that, too and rubbed my eyes.
Is the LPC so ... morally and monetarily bankrupt that they have to use our taxpayer money to fund their disgusting smears? I thought it was Dion et al. being sued, the people, not the members of the government. Fine line, I guess...

And I also find it funny how the media are all rah-rah for the Libs directly using taxpayer money for their defense, but are all tsk-tsking the Conservatives for indirectly using taxpayer money.

Now was I reading correct (last night--been too busy this morning) when I thought I saw that we the taxpayers would only pay for the Libs' defense if they won? I can't remember. Either way, though, this is silly. You're correct in stating that "the Liberals can libel and defame all they want without taking responsibility, because they'll simply slough such on to the taxpayer..."

Posted by: Johann at March 5, 2008 10:47 AM

(Via CSP) Wide support for SEAL tapped to lead JSOC

The move to put an admiral in charge of Joint Special Operations Command, the military’s most secretive joint headquarters and long the domain of Army leaders, has been met within that community with a level of cross-service endorsement that might surprise those who expected responses rooted in rivalry.

That owes largely to the broad respect Rear Adm. William McRaven, commander of Special Operations Command Europe, has established within the spec ops community...

JSOC is responsible for hunting “high-value individuals” such as Osama bin Laden and is heavily engaged in the fight against al-Qaida in Iraq.

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 5, 2008 10:50 AM

James Taranto, The Limits of Fanaticism

See if you can guess the publication in which this report from Baghdad appears:

After almost five years of war, many young people in Iraq, exhausted by constant firsthand exposure to the violence of religious extremism, say they have grown disillusioned with religious leaders and skeptical of the faith that they preach.

In two months of interviews with 40 young people in five Iraqi cities, a pattern of disenchantment emerged, in which young Iraqis, both poor and middle class, blamed clerics for the violence and the restrictions that have narrowed their lives.

"I hate Islam and all the clerics because they limit our freedom every day and their instruction became heavy over us," said Sara, a high school student in Basra. "Most of the girls in my high school hate that Islamic people control the authority because they don't deserve to be rulers."


Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 5, 2008 10:52 AM

Malaysia: Teapot worshipper jailed

Kamariah Ali, 57, who was jailed yesterday, fell victim to the apostacy laws in the country which prevent people born as Muslims from converting. Followers of the Sky Kingdom cult believe their leader, Ayah Pin, to be Jesus Christ, the prophet Muhammad, Buddha, and Shiva. They also believe he will return as the imam Mahdi...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 5, 2008 10:56 AM

An interesting portrait:

(Via ICT) Failed bomber reaches out to Israelis

Six years ago, Shifa al-Qudsi was plotting to strap on explosives under a maternity dress and blow herself up among Israelis. Now she says she wants to meet them.

Just released from prison at age 30, the former hairdresser insists she has no regrets, but says times have changed. "I hope to join a peace group," she says. "I am ready to talk to Israelis, to get closer."

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 5, 2008 11:03 AM

Guess our crack team of nimble enforcers in government only mobilize against native criminality only when it interferes with their cut of the action...

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=353519

Meanwhile, those nuisances of non-natives in Caledonia, and the pittance of tobacco shack revenue, is just immaterial.

Posted by: hardboiled at March 5, 2008 11:10 AM

ET: I saw that, too and rubbed my eyes.
Is the LPC so ... morally and monetarily bankrupt that they have to use our taxpayer money to fund their disgusting smears? I thought it was Dion et al. being sued, the people, not the members of the government. Fine line, I guess...

And I also find it funny how the media are all rah-rah for the Libs directly using taxpayer money for their defense, but are all tsk-tsking the Conservatives for indirectly using taxpayer money.

Now was I reading correct (last night--been too busy this morning) when I thought I saw that we the taxpayers would only pay for the Libs' defense if they won? I can't remember. Either way, though, this is silly. You're correct in stating that "the Liberals can libel and defame all they want without taking responsibility, because they'll simply slough such on to the taxpayer..."

Posted by: Johann at March 5, 2008 10:47 AM

Why do partisans only live on a one way street? Politicans of ALL political parties wrap their lips around your wallet, and begin suckling the minute a vote is dropped on them. Most all litigation is handled by the public purse for these gerbils whle they are in office. It's 'because of their job' you see.

Gads, if any of you partisans actually looked into fact...

Posted by: hardboiled at March 5, 2008 11:29 AM

Johann - yes, the Liberals are both morally and monetarily bankrupt.

But it's both individuals, Dion, Ignatieff and Goodale, plus the Liberal Party, who are under threat of a libel suit.

That strategy was, I think, to prevent the individual Liberals (Dion, Ignatieff, Goodale) from trying to slither out of responsibility for their words by saying they were actint 'as the Liberal Party, ie, they were spokesmen for the group. Harper prevented them from making such an evasion.

But, you are right, the MSM says NOTHING about the reprehensible act by the Liberals to try to get the taxpayer to pay their legal fees, but sneers at the fact that ALL political parties are funded by vote (1.75 per vote). This would mean, unless those particular dollars and cents are marked with red paint and the CPC could stash the taxpayer money into a separate box, that some of the money to pay the lawyers might come from the taxpayer. Again, it might not. Why not?

Because the CPC has its own money, privately given by individual donors. So, if let's say the bill for the lawyers came to 100 dollars (heh), and the CPC coffers include $400 from the taxpayer, and $600 from its own fundraising, or even 50-50, then, who is to say where that $100 came from?

Oh- I know, the MSM will tell us.

The Liberals are responsible for their libelling of people. They won't, now, say a word outside the House. I find this unacceptable. It cannot be the case that in one part of our country, our laws are not applicable. Our laws of defamation are not applicable in the House. Why not? Isn't the House a part of Canada? Aren't its members Canadian citizens?

Posted by: ET at March 5, 2008 11:35 AM

Librano, Tory, same 'ol police interference:

In a statement to the Citizen on Feb. 8, Mr. Baird's office said: "As a result of serious misinformation that was being reported in the press, the minister's chief of staff called the OPP for clarification," said Garry Keller, Mr. Baird's communications director....Mr. Baird's office has declined to elaborate on how media interviews with a senior OPP officer were founded on "misinformation" before Mr. Baird's office contacted the OPP.

Sheesh. At least the Libranos owned the RCMP as it's private militia. Maybe the CPC is trying to get the OPP onside as a way to further break into the 905.

Politicians calling armed militias, all while ultimately controlling their budgets. For a banana federation, that's pretty top shelf right there.

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=b8c7c74f-8a5c-4083-82be-0631e5202e7e

Posted by: hardboiled at March 5, 2008 11:52 AM

Cynophiles! The Crufts Dog Show 2008 starts tomorrow:

http://www.crufts.org.uk/

Kate will have to wait until Sunday for the Terrier Group results.

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 5, 2008 12:06 PM

Men Not Allowed

Harvard University has instituted women-only access times to its school gymnasium in order to accommodate female Muslim students. A Boston University student newspaper reports six hours per week have been set aside in which men are prohibited from working out — after requests from the Harvard Islamic Society and its women's center.

One male student says the women-only hours are inconvenient — discriminate against men — and are impractical and purely symbolic measures to further a useless policy.

But an officer with the Islamic Society says the new policy does not discriminate against men — and is not a case of minority rights trumping majority preference.

Posted by: jcl at March 5, 2008 12:07 PM

Ahh, the benefits of multiculturalism and Muslim immigration:

"Radical Muslim preacher caught on film giving advice on how to 'hoodwink' the Government over benefits"

(dailymail.co.uk)

A radical Muslim preacher has been filmed talking about fraudulently claiming benefits and giving advice on how to cheat the Government.

Self-proclaimed extremist Abu Waleed was speaking at the London School of Shariah event in preparation for Ramadan, during which he also made jokes about Muslims taking backpacks on to the Underground.

The British-born radical retold fables from the koran before encouraging his audience to hoodwink the Government.

After a story about a wealthy man, he said: "There was one man, he had a lot of money - just like us, we have a lot of money today from the income support and the incapacity benefit.

Radical preecher Abu Waleed was caught on video encouraging people to 'hoodwink' the Government regarding benefits

"Obviously when you have the incapacity benefit, you want to make sure you walk with a limp when you leave the house just in case there's someone taking pictures.

Posted by: irwin daisy at March 5, 2008 12:12 PM

If the Conservatives are supposedly funding their legal bills with the $1.75 per vote funds, then the Liberals can do so as well. They should not be allowed to obtain direct funding from the taxpayer for their own political legal bills. This legal issue has nothing to do with government law making. It is politics which is not a "government" function, it is a party function.

Posted by: Gus at March 5, 2008 12:21 PM

What happened to Darcey's site? http://www.dustmybroom.com/ has been down since yesterday.

Posted by: RK at March 5, 2008 12:24 PM

Here's a theory - Dion is holding back on mea culpa/apology over Cadman libel suit because, until after 17 Mar byelection. If he apologizes now, he could hurt himself. It's possible Grits could lose two of four byelections (even though they held all four seats). If that happens, Dion can kiss his a** goodbye. If they lose one, he will be in trouble, too. Worst case is if he wins all four - he will think he's on a roll and force election - with resultant humiliating Lib loss.

Posted by: Shamrock at March 5, 2008 12:25 PM

@Lydia 1:10 AM:

"Finnish cartoonist Seppo Lehto films himself drawing Mohammed as a "pig pedophile prophet" and posts it on Youtube."

Looks like YouTube has taken the video down. No surprise since only this week YouTube rolled over and said they would remove any offensive materials after a cyber-attack on their networks from Pakistan.

Posted by: OttRob at March 5, 2008 12:39 PM

Is this what Harper meant by more accountability in government?

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Repeated appeals to the Prime Minister's Office since the Chuck Cadman affair surfaced have failed to yield direct answers to the following questions:

1. Did anyone from the Conservative party, or connected to the Tories, offer Cadman a $1-million life insurance policy?

Refused to directly answer the question. Tory MP James Moore has repeatedly said officials only offered to take Cadman back into the party.

2. What did Stephen Harper mean when he said in a 2005 interview that "an offer" that included "financial considerations" was made to Cadman?

Conservative party spokesman Ryan Sparrow said Monday the offer Cadman mentioned in a TV interview was a repayable loan to the local riding association.

3. If Tory officials Tom Flanagan and Doug Finley offered a repayable loan, what was the amount and what were the terms of repayment?

No answer.

4. Why did the Prime Minister's Office and the Conservatives first deny an offer had been made to Cadman, only to later say a repayable loan was offered?

No answer.

5. Why didn't Harper reveal last week that he told Dona Cadman more than two years ago that he didn't know about the alleged life-insurance offer?

No answer.

6. What motivation would Dona Cadman, a Tory candidate in her husband's former riding, have to fabricate a story about the life-insurance offer?

No answer.

Posted by: Ted at March 5, 2008 12:57 PM

Is this: www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080304/cadman_questions_080304/20080304?hub=QPeriod what Harper meant by more accountability in government?

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Repeated appeals to the Prime Minister's Office since the Chuck Cadman affair surfaced have failed to yield direct answers to the following questions:

1. Did anyone from the Conservative party, or connected to the Tories, offer Cadman a $1-million life insurance policy?

Refused to directly answer the question. Tory MP James Moore has repeatedly said officials only offered to take Cadman back into the party.

2. What did Stephen Harper mean when he said in a 2005 interview that "an offer" that included "financial considerations" was made to Cadman?

Conservative party spokesman Ryan Sparrow said Monday the offer Cadman mentioned in a TV interview was a repayable loan to the local riding association.

3. If Tory officials Tom Flanagan and Doug Finley offered a repayable loan, what was the amount and what were the terms of repayment?

No answer.

4. Why did the Prime Minister's Office and the Conservatives first deny an offer had been made to Cadman, only to later say a repayable loan was offered?

No answer.

5. Why didn't Harper reveal last week that he told Dona Cadman more than two years ago that he didn't know about the alleged life-insurance offer?

No answer.

6. What motivation would Dona Cadman, a Tory candidate in her husband's former riding, have to fabricate a story about the life-insurance offer?

No answer.

Posted by: Ted at March 5, 2008 12:57 PM

I have been hearing a lot of advertising on the radio about this year is Monterals 400th birthday. My question is how gives a $#!t ??

Posted by: Rob C at March 5, 2008 1:07 PM


RobC
Your hearing is off, It's Quebec City's 400th anniversary.
But you don't have to give a shit about that either. The anniversary that is, not your hearing.

Posted by: Ed at March 5, 2008 1:28 PM

In case you've forgotten what real scandal is:

"Another affecting interview with Francois Beaudoin over the weekend, this one by L. Ian MacDonald. The scale of the mistreatment is beyond belief:
It was 6:45 a.m. on Dec. 13, 2001, when the doorbell rang. Beaudoin was in the basement study of his Town of Mount Royal home. "I could hear the doorbell, and my wife went to the door, and I could hear her scream, 'Not you again, not you again.' "
Yes, them again: the RCMP, conducting yet another of the many raids he was to endure. As MacDonald notes, "search warrants were issued on several occasions for Beaudoin's home, cottage, office, even his golf club." "So what were the RCMP looking for at Beaudoin's house," he goes on, "and who sent them knocking at sunrise?"


"Oh, but we know what they were looking for, both in April and December. We know what it was that Mr. Beaudoin was accused -- wrongfully -- of having forged. It was a document, purportedly from the bank's files, a copy of which was sent to the National Post. It had to do with the infamous loan to the money-losing Auberge Grand-M�re, the hotel on whose behalf Jean Chretien had leaned on Mr. Beaudoin and the bank, the hotel whose owner now stands charged with having torched it last month. A footnote to the document appeared to show that amongst the hotel's debts at the time it was being considered for the loan was $23,040 owed to J&AC Consultants, the former Prime Minister's family holding company. The story of that allegedly forged document, and the subsequent police investigation, now nearly three years old, is told in several carefully-lawyered columns I wrote for the National Post, which are linked to below. The last offers a comprehensive overview; but there are significant supporting details in each. All I will do here is to ask: If Beaudoin did not forge any documents, who did? I think it an especially pertinent question, given what we have learned since Feb. 6. A puzzling forgery, indeed [April 16, 2001] Five months later, is it a fake, or isn't it? [September 5, 2001] The investigation is being wrapped up [December 5, 2001] Which one is the forgery? [August 20, 2002] Why is the RCMP acting so strangely? [May 14, 2003]"

Scroll halfway down page to "The Questions That Remain"

Posted by: bud at March 5, 2008 1:38 PM

Has Canadian MSM put out this poll?
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Stephen Harper-Stephane Dion and the Canadian Woodshed
Mar 03, 2008

Methodology:
A random telephone interview of 1,699 respondents throughout Canada between February 26-March 2, 2008. This poll features a margin of error of (2.189%), 19 times out of 20-99% confidence- based on ROBBINS rules of polling. This poll was sponsored by Jim Van Rassel (604)328-5398
[...]
Question #2
If an election were called tomorrow, for which leader and party would you caste your ballot?
NDP 16.3 %
Bloc Quebecois 8.6 %
Green 7.1 %
Liberals 26.2 %
Conservative 43 %
[...]

Commentary
Observations:
Conservatives are up (15.5%) from the last federal general election in early 2006. Liberals are down (8.9%). Together the Conservatives and Liberals possess nearly (70%) of public support across Canada. This total between the Government and the Opposition is higher than it was after the general election in 2006 (67%).
Of this amount the Conservatives possessed (54%) to the Liberals (46%). Now however, the Prime Minister and his Conservative Party have two-thirds of the total support based on this ROBBINS poll. This means the Liberal Party is being devoured by both Conservatives and the Opposition parties. The NDP totals suggest that most of the Liberal efforts in and out of Parliament are really more directed at suppressing NDP, Bloc and Green totals, with the Liberals unable to properly cover their centre right flank.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper merely walked over and took this support from the Liberals for himself. New Conservative support from the Liberal Party is up in Ontario to (43%), higher in Quebec (33.5%), while the Liberal Party has fallen to (30%) in Ontario and (17%) in Quebec.
No matter how you slice it, the Conservatives are way ahead of any one of the Opposition Parties. If an election were held today, the Conservatives would easily win a majority government. (Remember ROBBINS called Obama three points ahead nationally in the U.S. Presidential election when the mainstream had Hillary Clinton ahead 12-20%).
Spin: [...]

http://www.robbinssceresearch.com/polls/poll_473.html

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 1:41 PM

Rob - you can give a shi#$%t due to the tens of millions of taxpayer dollars being pumped into the standard federalist shakedown - that is really a confidence racket.

What exactly is the per capita federal spending by province in Canada?

I'll give you a hint: you don't really want to know.

Posted by: hardboiled at March 5, 2008 1:42 PM

No, Gus. The CPC are not funding their legal suit against the Liberals with the 1.75 per vote funds. Prove it.
The MSM are trying to 'suppose' that the CPC are doing so. No proof.

The CPC have a massive amount of private funding, that's funding from private citizens, who are allowed to fund a political party up to $1,100 per person a year.
Below is text from The Canadian Press, Tim Naumetz, in the Nova Scotia Chronicle Herald:

"Taxpayers may be on the hook for over $1 million in legal fees if Prime Minister Stephen Harper forges ahead with his threat to sue Liberal Leader Stephane Dion and two other Liberals for libel.

A Liberal official said Tuesday the official Opposition is looking into the possibility of asking the House of Commons to pay legal fees for the three MPs, as the House has done in the past for a range of legal battles, including libel cases.

The Conservative party will be paying Harper’s legal fees, spokesman Ryan Sparrow said. But even then, considering that federal parties are now heavily funded by taxpayers through quarterly allowances, the public arguably foots a substantial part of the cost."

Kindly note the unargued and unproven assumption in the above text - that 'because federal parties are 'heavily funded by taxpayers'...the public 'arguably foots a substantial part of the cost'.

Note what Naumetz has done. He's merged the taxpayer money, which he doesn't define, (1.75 per vote) with the individual donations sent to the CPC. He then claims that the taxpayer 'foots a substantial part of the cost'. That's without a shred, a nanominiscule part..of proof. The CPC can well afford its own bills; it doesn't need to merge private income with taxpayer income. This journalist does - to support his supposition that, hmmm, maybe there shouldn't be a libel case because it will cost the taxpayers money.

Maybe the Liberals should get away with defamation, in House and out of House, because according to the Liberals, the taxpayer has to pay their bills anyway...so, it's best to let the Liberals defame and besmirch any and everyone. It's cheaper that way. You, the taxpayer, will have to pay.

That means that according to the Liberals, you the taxpayer are both PAYING the Liberals to defame and libel others (they get their salaries, after all!)..and..if there are any attempts to take them to court for this criminal action, then you, the taxpayer, will have to PAY their defense.

Must be nice to be a Liberal. On the take no matter what.

Posted by: ET at March 5, 2008 1:55 PM

If Canadians can't stand the idea of tax dollars contributing to the prosecution or defence of this suit they should thank Chretien, the man who imposed nondemocratic funding of political parties on Canadians. On the other hand, I would have thought that defending the integrity of the Prime Minister and his office would be of concern to all Canadians, at least to those of us outside of the Liberal party. Jean "I didn't make any phone calls" Chretien certainly had no regard for the office while the silence of the Liberal sychophants in the presence of his lies speaks volumes about their regard for the office.

Posted by: potato at March 5, 2008 2:02 PM

shamrock - I think your suggestion that Dion is holding back about apologizing because of those four by-elections - makes a lot of sense.

Ignatieff, by the way, had wanted a budget or other election. This would have prevented those four by-elections and moved them into a general election. Rae is in Toronto Centre, ready to take over Bill Graham's safe seat. He might not win it in a general election but he will in a by-election. I don't think Ignatieff wants Rae in the House; the two of them will be in open competition against Dion.

But, if Dion apologized now, that could hurt those 4 by-elections. Again, I think you're right.

Posted by: ET at March 5, 2008 2:06 PM

So the Liberals don't want to pay for their legal fees regarding Harper's libel claim, and as per the norm they want the taxpayer to foot their bill. Can this party get any more disgusting? NO, expecting the taxpayers to pay for their verbal mistakes isn't a taxpayer's responsibility it's their Party's responsibility. Frankly it should wake Canadians up to how far left the liberals have become, to expect us to pay for their smears at the PM is absolutley appalling.

Where does the Liberals sense of entitlement end, don't they get it the public is fed up paying for their sense of entitlement?

Oink Oink Liberals, you are not entitled to taxpayers funds to pay your legal fees. It's the Liberal Party of Canada's responsibility, not Joe Q publics. Get your greedy socialist scummy hand out of my purse and STFU.

Posted by: Rose at March 5, 2008 2:11 PM

I agree that the Libs should pay their own bill on this. Otherwise -- things become a free-for-all and taxpayers foot the bill. Re the bi-elections, I think that some Liberals might be hoping for a loss in at least two ridings, since that becomes a very good pretext for dumping Dion. I beieve that Rae and Ignatieff in the House at the same time will not make for positive dynamics. I wonder how long it will take for Ignatieff to run back to the safe haven of academia.

Posted by: LindaL at March 5, 2008 2:19 PM

Oh those scampy,not to be taken serious NDP.Just heard on Adler,and she's coming on show later,Judy Wats-her-name-Leis,wants candy cigarettes to carry a 'warning'...who in their right mind can find this party serious? And the fearless leader Layton,wants the RCMP brought in to investigate Obamagate.My head just hurts watching these tools.

Posted by: Sammy at March 5, 2008 2:42 PM

Deceivin' Stephen's lyin' habits.

Denying a deal had been struck to make financial consideration to a potential Conservative candidate? Now just where have we seen this Cadman pattern before? Oh, right. How did that other one work out for Deceivin' Stephen? Oh, right. Not so good.

Does anyone still really trust this guy? And no, "the Liberals are corrupt" is not an answer. It is actually possible to have two corrupt, lying governments back-to-back, as is painfully obvious to all but the kool-aid drinking uber-partisans.

Posted by: Ted at March 5, 2008 2:48 PM

Oh yeah,nice to see in QP,they have every no-name back-bencher up asking questions and making ridiculous accusations about Cadmangate.Some fat blonde woman made accusation just now,that Buckler called Dona Cadman,and influenced her comments.James Moore invited her to make this 'serious accusation of criminal behaviour outside the House'...lots of 'thank-you's' to the Libs for support of the Budget!

Posted by: Sammy at March 5, 2008 2:48 PM

Hey Sammy, all he's got to do is answer the questions, and answer them honestly, neither of which he is used to doing, and we'll know what's what. Why won't he answer the simple questions:

Is this: www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080304/cadman_questions_080304/20080304?hub=QPeriod what Harper meant by more accountability in government?

-----------------

Repeated appeals to the Prime Minister's Office since the Chuck Cadman affair surfaced have failed to yield direct answers to the following questions:

1. Did anyone from the Conservative party, or connected to the Tories, offer Cadman a $1-million life insurance policy?

Refused to directly answer the question. Tory MP James Moore has repeatedly said officials only offered to take Cadman back into the party.

2. What did Stephen Harper mean when he said in a 2005 interview that "an offer" that included "financial considerations" was made to Cadman?

Conservative party spokesman Ryan Sparrow said Monday the offer Cadman mentioned in a TV interview was a repayable loan to the local riding association.

3. If Tory officials Tom Flanagan and Doug Finley offered a repayable loan, what was the amount and what were the terms of repayment?

No answer.

4. Why did the Prime Minister's Office and the Conservatives first deny an offer had been made to Cadman, only to later say a repayable loan was offered?

No answer.

5. Why didn't Harper reveal last week that he told Dona Cadman more than two years ago that he didn't know about the alleged life-insurance offer?

No answer.

6. What motivation would Dona Cadman, a Tory candidate in her husband's former riding, have to fabricate a story about the life-insurance offer?

No answer.

Posted by: Ted at March 5, 2008 2:50 PM

Buttcrack Karl stays in his TO condo.
...-

Schreiber inquiry is on
(G-M)

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 2:54 PM

The CPC can well afford its own bills; it doesn't need to merge private income with taxpayer income - Posted by: ET at March 5, 2008 1:55 PM

Then maybe the CPC can unwrap their lips from the public teat, and stop sucking long enough to reform the use of 'loans' within political parties. Or maybe just turn down the free flow of welfare from the treasury?

Nope, didn't think so. Not when you are entitled to your entitlements.

Parasites are all the same, doesn't matter what flavour they are.

Posted by: hardboiled at March 5, 2008 3:00 PM

LGF has Hussein Obama's face up; blinking like this cursor; orange to black to orange ...-


Kos Jumps Into the Idiotic Scandal of the Week

Now Markos himself is jumping aboard the most idiotic pseudo-scandal yet cooked up by the Nutroots: Daily Kos: Clinton campaign making Obama ‘blacker’.

Again: these morons are hyperventilating over videos they are watching via the internet, and assuming that the orangey color of Obama’s face in one video is somehow “genuine,” while the desaturated color and slightly different aspect ratio in the Clinton video is a nefarious racist plot.

It’s just hilarious; I haven’t been this amused by Daily Kos in ages. ...-
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 3:00 PM

"Even a majority of Liberal voters liked the budget."
...-

"Canadians generally liked last month's federal budget, poll suggests
By THE CANADIAN PRESS
[...]

The savings account was approved by a whopping 78 per cent of respondents, with 58 per cent saying they would likely take advantage of the program."
http://tinyurl.com/2635u9

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 3:09 PM

ET @ 1:55, Sorry I didn't mean to imply that. I only meant that even if the Cons were using those funds, it still does not give the Libs a right to additional public funds because they receive the 1.75 as well. Further this is a political rather than government issue and therefor is not within the duties of either party as members of parliament.

Posted by: Gus at March 5, 2008 3:09 PM

Ted ... ever heard the expression "A day late and a dollar short!"
That's you and your stinking party of thieves to a T.

Posted by: OMMAG at March 5, 2008 3:19 PM

Re: Dust My Broom dot com.

Stay tuned .... there is a story brewing that will be revealed in due course.

Posted by: OMMAG at March 5, 2008 3:21 PM

Personally, Ted, I believe that ALL politicians and ALL political parties lie and are corrupt...BUT to a varying degree. In my opinion, this current incarnation of the Conservative Party is FAR LESS corrupt and PMSH is far more honest/upright than any preceding government / leader that I've ever known.

It's all about shades of grey and the lesser of many evils to me. They are a pale grey while the Liberals are charcoal grey...they are naughty while the Liberals are wicked.

I philosophically agree with most of what the Conservatives stand for and I philosophically disagree with most of what the Liberals stand for (but, then again, who knows what they stand for...they have no identifiable policies or positions other than "win at all costs"...they are "adaptable").

So, if you want to call the government and PMSH liars and corrupt, I wouldn't disagree completely. But your complaints ring VERY HOLLOW when I consider the political alternatives in Canada. I'll accept the minor lies and corruption of the Conservatives over the massive lies and corruption of the Liberals any day.

Until they become too corrupt, of course...we Conservatives DO have ethics. You and other Liberal supporters? I have no idea how you can live with yourselves.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 5, 2008 3:53 PM

Eeyore - I think you just did the best Alberta election summary out there....

Posted by: hardboiled at March 5, 2008 3:54 PM

...and the best political summary I've seen of Canada in a long time.

How completely honest...

Posted by: hardboiled at March 5, 2008 3:58 PM

hardboiled, you wrote:

"Then maybe the CPC can unwrap their lips from the public teat, and stop sucking long enough to reform the use of 'loans' within political parties. Or maybe just turn down the free flow of welfare from the treasury?

Nope, didn't think so. Not when you are entitled to your entitlements.

Parasites are all the same, doesn't matter what flavour they are."

Could you explain the above. I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: ET at March 5, 2008 4:04 PM

"Denying a deal had been struck to make financial consideration to a potential Conservative candidate?"

Er, had a deal been struck, that only you know about Ted? If that's the case, you should present the evidence your party is desperately looking for, before they all get their asses sued, don't you think?

And, you're supposedly a lawyer?

The ambulance chasin' new biz effort must be doing well.

Posted by: irwin daisy at March 5, 2008 4:11 PM

A Correction of Breathtaking Proportions
http://thestrippodcast.blogspot.com/2008/03/correction-of-breathtaking-proportions.html

Posted by: JimmyF at March 5, 2008 4:32 PM

Also,

Do they seriously believe that the MSM will fall for this crap again? Yeah, you're right. They probably will. Sigh.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/191580.php

Posted by: JimmyF at March 5, 2008 4:34 PM

Can't find the link, did anyone see the story about the West Coast Navy sailor who kid is having an eye removed due to cancer and while they are in Vancouver for the operation, their fellow sailors are rebuilding their house because of a less than reputable contractor has mucked the job up?

Posted by: Colin at March 5, 2008 4:40 PM

Bet on resources to sidestep U.S. slowdown: Rubin

OTTAWA -- Contrary to popular opinion, the Canadian market is showing signs of decoupling from the faltering U.S. economy, says CIBC World Markets chief strategist Jeff Rubin.

Even so, Mr. Rubin said in his monthly Canadian Portfolio Strategy Outlook report, that investors should take a less defensive posture toward resource investments.

"There is more than sufficient momentum in both energy and materials stocks to warrant stock market exposure in the here and now."
http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=355000

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 4:42 PM

I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: ET at March 5, 2008 4:04 PM

Explanation: It doesn't matter if the CPC can self fund legal expenses - they still get their cheques cut to them from this nations' treasury. Much like the Libranos.

When the 'party' funds actions, the taxpayer is ultimately funding the action, unless a seperate trust with dedicated funds is created.

Unless of course, the CPC was principled enough to turn down the cheques coming from the government. Or, perhaps finish reforming political financing by closing the ability to 'lend' funds to prospective candidates.

Nope, didn't think so.

My point is that despite how unseemly the Libranos are and behave, the CPC is identical is leaving these loopholes open, living off the taxpayer, or to bring up the obvious: leave the Accountability Act unfinished and open for abuse. Like the 800 patronage appointments Harper has made since taking office, despite promises not to.

Political parties are parasites - a constituency unto themselves, who seek out adherents and converts to the cause. Parties do not have the best interests of the nation within them, they have their best interests within them. And while the Libranos are more evolved to this operating state than the Cons, give them a few more years in power, a few more thousand patronage appointments, a few more timely pay raises, increased travel budgets, and operating expenses linked to inflation, and the political parties become blurred.

Principles get jettisoned, as do those who don't praise the leader without unanimity.

At the bottom of it is cash. Who has it, and who has it to spend upon whom. You may have heard a quote which I believe summarizes politicians beautifully, namely, a politician without a budget is nothing.

These people know it better than anyone else.

And that's why funding of lawsuits, and political finance reform ain't gonna change anytime soon. And why, whether the Cons pay for it via the party or not, it's your tax dollars.

Posted by: hardboiled at March 5, 2008 4:56 PM

I'll bet you don't know the difference, ted, but it's quite common for political parties to set up and define the nominees in ridings. I'll bet you don't know that all the parties do that.

Whether or not a financial arrangement is made, is up to the party. In this case, I doubt it, but the court felt otherwise.
In other cases, as you know, the incumbent (Liberal, NDP) gets quite upset at being outed by the Party election Campaign Leaders. That's happened to the Liberal and NDP recently.

I'll bet you don't know that the election campaign leaders are different from the party leader.

I'll bet you don't know that bribing a sitting MP for his vote is totally different from asking an unelected candidate to step aside for a different candidate.

After all, even the Liberals know this; they told Grewal in the taped discussion where they offered him all kinds of bribes for his vote, but said that they couldn't offer them 'really really' because it was, heh, illegal. But, the offer was there.

I'll bet you don't know any of this. Oh well.

Posted by: ET at March 5, 2008 4:57 PM

Are the Libs losing traction with Cadmangate?I see mouthpiece Mark holland on ctv just now making 'scandalous' accusations about John Baird.I am soooooooo sick of this schoolyard tattletale crap,are the Libs incapable of doing ANYTHING productive?wonder if Holland and Jennings ever got nailed with their 'garbagegate'caper,when they stole Cons files???

Posted by: Sammy at March 5, 2008 4:59 PM

A lengthy post at Breath of the Beast -- worth the time:

Think Happy Thoughts About People Who Want to Kill You!

The BBC has excellent news! The Gallup Study of the Muslim World suggests that the problem of Islamist violence is easy to solve. All we have to do is concentrate on thinking happy thoughts about Muslims and all the problems will go away.

Well, actually, it does require four other little things....

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at March 5, 2008 5:13 PM

hardboiled, I think my statement is a fair representation of many commentators' opinions here at SDA. We aren't blind, partisan fools...we know that everything is not pure with the Conservatives. But we do believe that they are a far sight better than the alternatives.

If you notice poor behaviour, you should scold. If you notice good behaviour, you should compliment. When you are dealing with a raucous bunch of cads and some are less "cad-ish", then I believe that it is appropriate to compliment them and support their "better" behaviour.

I have noticed, on the other hand, that you tend to continue to scold them for not being "good", even though they are being "better" than the others. A different approach, but the same general observation on their behaviour...n'est pas? You do consider them better than the alternatives, no?

Posted by: Eeyore at March 5, 2008 5:14 PM

no, hardboiled, I think you are wrong. You are assuming that the money from the taxpayer, ie, the 1.75 per vote that goes to EACH political party, is merged with the private donations sent to the CPC party.

I doubt if their auditors would permit such sloppy accounts. The accountants have to identify each and every input, send tax receipts to each individual, prove to Elections Canada that no individual gives more than 1,100 and so on.

So, your assumption that the private donations are merged with the taxpayer allotment, and that the cheques from the private donations are 'cut from the nation's treasury' is absolutely incorrect. The govt doesn't make out those cheques; the Conservative Party does. They have to show, to their accountant and the party, where this money comes from-and goes.

As for a choice of refusing the 1.75 amount, I think that such an act would be pure moral sophistry. An egoistic assertion of false superiority, by virtue of their own ability to appeal to the common citizen for support. Such an act would, of course, be really a tactic to assert superiority to the other parties, who also received votes in the election, but, don't have the financial input from the citizen. Why should the NDP, Liberals etc, be deprived of this money?

I don't agree that the CPC is 'living off the taxpayer'; its ability to obtain funds from the average citizen far outreaches that of the NDP and Liberals. Strange, when the NDP and Liberals define themselves as most 'concerned about the common citizen'..and yet, that same 'common citizens' shows no reciprocal concern.

Could you explain how the appointments that Harper has made, are patronage rather than based on merit?
Remember, our political system operates where the ratio of appointed vs elected positions is ten to one. Are you suggesting that Harper not fill the positions when they become vacant? Are you suggesting that he change the constitution so that these positions be open to election?

After all, there are several Senate positions that he is not filling, because he wants an elected Senate - and the fuss about such a change is quite something.

The Accountability Act? Is that where the Senate held it up for a year, and made multiple changes, including changing accountability for the Senate, refusing to allow any but themselves to, themselves, ethically examine themselves. Heh.

Your cynical view of political parties is your opinion. Not fact.

Posted by: ET at March 5, 2008 5:18 PM

"You do consider them better than the alternatives, no?"

That is a relative phrase. If I have a choice between Jeffrey Dahmer and Clifford Olson, can one be said to be better than the other? Probably, given an individual's moral inclination and personal abhorrence to their acts.

Histrionic? Sure. But this the essence of moral relativism, and I question - and scold - the point of exactly WHY I must choose between their corrupt @$$holes and our corrupt @$$holes.

That is the fundamental and prime focus of every thing political I look at or entertain. It is the fundamental failing of our nation.

And until an honest, sincere, and as hard a working individual as myself comes forward, and performs meaningful contributions to the advancement of this nation and it's citizenry, then I will remain as Hardboiled as I am now.

By demanding less, you get less. And for all of the transgressions of the Liberano mob that had hold of this nation for 13 years, PMSH and the Cons cannot give me:

- an Accountability Act they campaigned upon.
- they will not reform campaign financing

Aside from the porefessional apologists here who will argue - correctly or not - about the perils of a minority government, these are no-brainer slam dunks.

Instead, the Cons immediately installed an un-elected Quebec bagman into the Senate, unzipped for Emerson (such a principled guy), and allowed untendered single source contracts to begin (thanks to the Ontario Leprechan Wing of the Party).

So...should I throw bouquets for their better deeds? Sure.

As much as I should thank a shark for only taking my leg from me while swimming. After all, he could have taken two.

Posted by: hardboiled at March 5, 2008 5:41 PM

Irwin Daisy:

You miss the point.

The similarities of the two deals are that in Harper denied there was a deal to offer financial consideration in exchange for a particular action and has been proven to be a liar. In the first case, he claimed there was no deal with Riddel and, in fact, there was and the Conservatives had to eat crow and pay out.

He has also claimed that no deal was offered to Cadman. We now know that was a complete lie. What the deal offer to Cadman was - what "financial considerations" were offered - is a changing story with these clowns. Are they trustworthy on this when we've seen that they are so quick to lie? Does anyone really believe that, in trying to bribe Cadman for his vote, they offered to loan him some money to cover his campaign expenses for an election campaign he was not ever going to live to run in???

Was there even a change in government in 2006? With the record spending, the record promise-breaking, the record polling, the playing off of one region against another, the lying, etc. etc. it is really getting hard to tell. Even Mulroney wasn't this quick to get so screwed up. The Liberals didn't get this screwed up until a decade in. To turn a Trudeau phrase: Conservatives - their just Liberals in a hurry.

Ladies and gentlement, the Right Honourable Stephen Brian Jean Harper.

Posted by: Ted at March 5, 2008 5:42 PM

Flanagan: "Instead, the prime minister has taken one cautious step at a time."

Goar: "Provincial governments are tackling problems on their own."

Incrementalism works: Canada returns to the Canada of Sir Oliver Mowat, provincial rights; a decentralized Canada.
PM Harper has made Canada one Canada: A Mari usque ad Mare ("From Sea to Sea").
...-

"'Tightening the screws'

"OTTAWA — Perhaps the most significant act of the Harper government is being conducted so slowly, steadily, and silently that it has raised barely a whisper of public debate.

After three Conservative budgets, the Government of Canada has been made financially incapable of offering costly new social programs or significant tax cuts for the foreseeable future.

Remember the national day-care plan the Liberals talked about when the country was awash in $13-billion annual surpluses? Or the Kelowna treaty to deal with aboriginal poverty?
Those surpluses are now almost gone.
A mentor and advisor to Stephen Harper applauds the prime minister for working toward a long-standing conservative dream — a less-present federal government — and for doing it without any backlash."
"They’ve gradually re-engineered the system. I’m quite impressed with it," said Flanagan, who ran the 2004 Conservative campaign and has been a longtime confidant and former chief of staff to Harper.

"They’re boxing in the ability of the federal government to come up with new program ideas . . . The federal government is now more constrained, the provinces have more revenue, and conservatives should be happy."

With only a minority government, says Flanagan, Harper could never have taken the instant slice-and-dice approach of the Mike Harris Tories during Ontario’s Common Sense Revolution."
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1041437.html
...-

"Provinces fill void left by Ottawa

At times like this, the virtues of federalism outweigh the frustrations.

For the past five years, Canadians have waited in vain for leadership from Ottawa. Paul Martin had plenty of ideas, but lacked the ability to follow through on them. Stephen Harper believes in small government and big tax cuts.

But as the federal government's role in shaping public policy has shrunk, the provinces have become bolder and more creative.

Canadians may not be moving ahead together, but at least they're moving ahead.

It took a while for the shift to occur. Initially, most of the premiers railed at Ottawa for abdicating its responsibility. They demanded national action on everything from climate change to poverty reduction. That is still going on.

But something else is happening. Provincial governments are tackling problems on their own. They have become Canada's groundbreakers."
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/309364
carol goar

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 5:45 PM

Tax dollars defending PM against Liberal bribe charges?

Not applicable, because,

This is a Liberal attack when the CPC happen to be government, so whatever conditions exist, they were in place and not created by the Conservatives for their self defense.

OTH, Liberals feel free to launch ethics attacks, one after another, because it seems we are funding 100% of their fishing ventures 100% of the time while the business of Canada must stand aside?

With my limited education, this seems very much like 100% lunacy.

This is a personal attack on PM Harper offering a bribe. Belongs in Supreme court so Liberals can allow the House of Commons to carry on Canada*s national business. = TG

Posted by: TG at March 5, 2008 6:18 PM

Anyone catch this article by Ezra in yesterday's National Post? Ted might want to read it. http://tinyurl.com/3aunj2 Quite frankly it has been my experience that those who accuse others of lying are generally mired in deceit themselves. This is a real phenomenon. The muck-raking coming from the Liberals in recent months is very telling.

Posted by: LindaL at March 5, 2008 6:18 PM

Maz2 don't put too much stock in what 'strategist' Jeff Rubin says or predicts.

You'll notice that the CIBC has one of the biggest exposures to Asset Backed Commerical Paper and lost a ton (tonne?) of munny on it.

He is still resting on laurels of poredicting the value of the CDn dollar less than 1 year ahead of time.

Whereas I, on the other hand, predicted in print the Edmononton Journal, if we continued to follow Pierre Trudeau's moronic economic policies, we would have a 60 cent Cdn dollar.

I wrote that in 1981.
And our dollar went did go to 60 cents.

Federal Liberals are such morons.

Posted by: rockyt at March 5, 2008 6:39 PM

rockyt...Chretien was Min. of Finance at the time, correct?
"A dohllar, is a dohllar, is a dohllar"

Posted by: bluetech at March 5, 2008 6:50 PM

Linda L: "I agree that the Libs should pay their own bill on this."

It only makes sense, verdad?

But when you're dealing with the entitled Librano$, who have no idea what paying their own bills means, you're up against invincible ignorance. They've dipped into the coffers of tax monies for the promotion of their agenda so regularly and so often that they've neglected to acknowledge the distinction between what is theirs and what is ours.

In their vernacular, "What is theirs IS ours." "Su casa es NUESTRA casa."

The Librano$ have no mechanism by which to discern right from wrong, yours from mine, scandals from business as usual.

They're morally and ethically bankrupt, with their only marker being POWER. With the MSM as cheerleaders who, likewise, seem to have lost any moral compass they might have had (I vaguely remember that in the '60s, journalists still understood the concept of right from wrong...) Canadian democracy is in jeopardy.

But, the CPC with Prime Minister Stephen Harper at the helm--despite all of their foibles, weaknesses, and warts--are changing the course of this Ship of State, despite the tempestuous sea swells and winds.

Posted by: batb at March 5, 2008 7:03 PM

Ted: "No answer."

Hey, Ted. Wake up. Of course there's no answer to the MSM and the sidewinder-Librano$ (and MSM). They ask questions with forked tongue.

Now that this is a libel case, do you think Prime Minister Stephen Harper is going to be stupid enough--despite his being poked and prodded to "say something," "give us an answer" (go fly a kite, Don Martin)--to say anything about this case?

The Librano$ are no longer at the head of the line. They no longer have a place of privilege, they so dearly like to think they still do, to manipulate all things to their agenda. And they're mad as He**.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is under absolutely no obligation to answer the Librano$' questions, given their highly partisan interests, or the MSM's questions.

Hey, when you've got people poised to ambush you, do you, if you're smart, able, and responsible, willingly, with a smile on your face, walk into their trap?

C'mon, Ted.

Posted by: batb at March 5, 2008 7:11 PM

Liberal senators/MPS want to subsidize pornography/violence using your tax dollars. Cui bono? To whose benefit?
...-
Senate Liberals vow to protect film industry from government bill
By Joan Bryden, THE CANADIAN PRESS

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 7:16 PM

Don't know if it's been mentioned.

On the radio in the US...

Apparently Al Gore is being sued by one of the founders of the Weather Channel over the Global Warning Scam/hoax.

Posted by: Nightmare at March 5, 2008 8:24 PM

Uh oh, I'm #96, so I guess no one will notice that http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080305/Schreiber_Mulroney_080305/20080305?hub=TopStories the scumbag gotr what he was wanting.

Posted by: RW at March 5, 2008 8:31 PM

batb@711 pm, Yes, I musr say Don Martin is a bit off the ball here. I heard him on CFRA in the morning, and also read his writings, but he doesn't get it - perhaps he has been infected by spending too much time in the Ottawa press corp.

"Martin demands answers".

What he doesn't get is that it is not encumbent on Harper to give answers. It is up to those "demanding answers" to show there is a question.

Posted by: RW at March 5, 2008 8:42 PM

Yea Merger is about as funny as a wire brush enema and sucking off the public teat for his pathetic humor is all that much worse. Only in Canada where mediocre musicians, artists and actors can get rich with that pathetic acting, Rita Mcneil singing, and voice of fire paintings. Canadian content laws will always prop up shit, in the U.S. if your good enough you rise to the top if not you play the honky tonks and school dances, cream always rises to the top except in the world of Lieberalism where shit replaces cream. Thank god for sattelite radio.

Posted by: bartinsky at March 5, 2008 8:48 PM

What is Liberal Citoyen's policy on Cadman today?
The Hollow Liberal Party is completely insane/as mad as the proverbial Mad Hatter.

This is beyond parody.

"Now they're [the Hollow Liberals] using one of their rare opposition days to move what amounts to a non-confidence motion in the other opposition parties instead.
How will PM Harper/Conservatives vote? Walkout? Abstain? Yea? Nay?
Decisions, decisions.
...-

Election-wary Liberals move non-confidence in . . . . other opposition parties
By THE CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA - Liberals will attempt to turn the tables Thursday on rival parties who've ridiculed them for being afraid of toppling the minority Conservative government.

They'll introduce a motion condemning the NDP and Bloc Quebecois for defeating the previous Grit government in November 2005, thereby enabling Stephen Harper's Tories to win power.

The motion slams the Harper government for setting back women's equality rights by cancelling such Liberal measures as the Court Challenges Program and a national child care program.

And it concludes by resolving that the House of Commons "condemn the irresponsible and self-serving actions on Nov. 25, 2005, by the New Democratic Party and the Bloc Quebecois which led to the installation of a government that is hostile to the rights and needs of vulnerable Canadians." ...-
http://tinyurl.com/2keyd5

Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2008 9:19 PM

Heard on Duff tonite:some Lib MP's are making jokes about being afraid to walk by the House,'in case they accidentally vote for something' Nice way to do biz Libs!

Posted by: Sammy at March 5, 2008 9:30 PM

I appologize to Chuck Cadman...

Mr. Cadman supports Mr. Harper, the writ is dropped and his family gets $500,000. If he supports the Liberals and he dies while a sitting MP they get $1,000,000.
It is within the realm of possibility that Chuck was upset because the Liberals offered him the option of voting for them in order to get the million, or voting against them and his family would get $500,000 less. If I was Chuck this would bother me that I would have to support the Liberals in order to help out my family. He could have seen it(In hiscondition) as the Liberals offering him that $1,000,000 and he was confused as to who spoke of the offer.
I am a bit fuzzy here but was this vote the one where the Liberal speaker had to break the tie?
We have not really heard much from the people who visited him, is it because when we do, it will make the case against Dion and the Liberal party even stronger,even if it makes Chuck look bad. Sorry Chuck and family.

Posted by: truthsayer at March 5, 2008 9:49 PM

Bartinsky: Rita McNeil's good -- voice of fire, not so good.

Posted by: LindaL at March 5, 2008 11:11 PM

Any possibility the Libranos offered an "incentive" to Chuck Cadman? Right now they're tarring the Conservatives with accusations putting their gotcha games ahead of letting the man rest in peace.
Some of these accusations are insinuating he was lying and that's just not decent.

Posted by: Liz J at March 6, 2008 7:28 AM

Apparently using a dead man for political gain is no longer morally reprehensible in this country. That the Liberal Party is spearheading this is not surprising. That the media is enabling and cheerleading such a disgrace should cause personal shame to each and every member of the media.

Posted by: bud at March 6, 2008 10:19 AM
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