Tips open for Friday. Busy work day planned, so blogging may be slow for a few hours.
standing in for vitruvius. if your going to replace the heavy handed drummer, replace him with the wildest.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vct-K0ijRS4
for your evenings enjoyment.
Posted by: cal2 at February 29, 2008 12:07 AMRe: l'affaire Cadman
I can readily visualize the Conservatives, panting and pawing to bring down the Martin government, offering incentives to Chuck Cadman to vote with them but, the insurance story just doesn't make sense. Where could the alleged emissaries have been able to find a company ready to issue a million dollar life insurance policy to a dying man? That simply makes no sense but, I've yet to hear the question raised either by the government or by the MSM.
This has to be the weirdest political story in years. Cadman clearly stated, after the vote in 2005, that he had received no offers but, now his widow and daughter are contradicting him. WTF?
Posted by: Zog at February 29, 2008 12:22 AMPerhaps it's just being sneaky with words: "Of course we can't pay you, Mr. Cadman, but if you support us we will insure your life for $1M, payable to your family on your death."
Then later: "No, really...we weren't trying to buy his vote...we were just discussing an insurance policy."
This does not look good for Harper.
Posted by: lberia at February 29, 2008 12:48 AMBut Iberia, that doesn't address the important question: Where would the Conservatives or anyone else have been able to find an insurer stupid enough to write a policy on Cadman? As I said, the story makes no sense at all.
Posted by: Zog at February 29, 2008 12:56 AMIn addition to offering a dying cancer patient a million dollar life insurance policy, apparently as part of the same deal,
"sources" say the conservatives also offered to make the earth flat and the sun as cold as ice.
Liberals are expanding their demand for an inquiry to include questions on the potential damaging effects of an ice cold sun, as well as the dangers of having a flat earth, particularly for those in the sea faring industries.
Said one Liberal insider: "this goes way beyond bribery, we're now talking about ships falling off the earth for God's sake!"
Posted by: biff at February 29, 2008 12:57 AMthe cost of a million buck insurance policy with a 2 week redemption period about 999,999.
CBCpravda All lberia , All the Time
while Rome burns , Dion fiddles. if this is the best feint they and the liberal press can dig up, then PMSH should call an election now.
Posted by: cal2 at February 29, 2008 12:57 AM"Canadian Cynic" threatens young children: http://no-libs.com/?p=2144
Posted by: Richard Evans at February 29, 2008 1:24 AMRally, steps of the SK Legislature in Regina SK, 1PM CST. Something about Minister Ritz tabling legislation to end the Canadian Wheat Board monopoly on barley:
http://www.agri-ville.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewThread.cgi?1204071716
Posted by: Cod Father at February 29, 2008 1:29 AMZog:
It's a word game. "Insurance" is just a weasel word for a payment to Cadman.
Posted by: lberia at February 29, 2008 1:31 AMRichard Evans shouldn't be counterfeiting other people's blogs and then linking them to NAMBLA.
http://canadiancynic.blogspot.com/
Serves you right, Dick.
Posted by: lberia at February 29, 2008 1:35 AMO.K., cal2, why was my entry of 01:47 blocked?
Posted by: Zog at February 29, 2008 1:50 AMO.K., cal2, why was my entry of 01:47 blocked?
Posted by: Zog at February 29, 2008 1:50 AMIberia, 01:31 A.M.
So you really think that one vote in a lame duck parliament would be worth a million bucks? Boy, you really ARE stupid!
However, if you believe that the Conservatives might have been that ridiculously generous, how do you suppose that they might have handled the money trail? Remember, they weren't the party in power, with lots of convenient hidey holes for dirty dollars.
BTW, I knew Chuck Cadman well, and he was absolutely straight arrow. He said that he wasn't offered any incentives, and I'll take that to the bank.
Posted by: Zog at February 29, 2008 2:01 AMHey Zog, why do his widow and daughter insist that this event happened? I don't know if it did or didn't, but why would they lie?
I do think an investigation is warranted. Oh, and I think it sucks to be Stephen Harper right now...bye bye to the thought of a majority.
Posted by: lberia at February 29, 2008 2:16 AMThat's the really weird part. Why the contradiction? I never met the wife and daughter, and I'm not going to speculate on their part in the affair beyond wondering why, if she really thinks that the Conservatives are rotten, Mrs. Cadman wants to be a Conservative candidate. Mind boggling.
If the Liberals can make anything stick, that would probably be enough to send the Conservatives into the wilderness. If they can't, it will backfire big time since, even in Canada, messing with a dead man for political gain would merit a serious ass kicking.
Posted by: Zog at February 29, 2008 2:46 AM
Anybody noticed that Free Dominion has become "a silent key?"
Notice of "intent to file" two more lawsuits were posted last nite, then they vanished.
Details ( very little ) here:
-Kinsella sues FD - and Warman Strikes Again!--
Posted by: backhoe at February 29, 2008 4:07 AMFighting for freedom overseas -- and Canada
By Ezra Levant on February 28, 2008 12:50 PM
Earlier this week I received a very moving letter from a soldier in Afghanistan. That letter, in turn, prompted this one:
----- Original Message -----
From: [name deleted]
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: Thank you
Dear Ezra,
My cousin, Cpl. Jordan Anderson was killed in [Afghanistan] last year. When I read
the e-mail you posted today from another brave soldier, I could only think
of Jordan and how he too believed in protecting our freedoms and in his own
words: "making {Afghanistan} into somewhere I could visit one day".
http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=b7ad0353-41b9-47a4-9fdb-b3e26a4749a4
I am embarrassed that this man is risking his life to protect the freedoms
that our grandfathers fought for, and back here in the comfort of our
suburbs, our politicians are allowing these kangaroo courts to destroy our
will to think for ourselves. They should be renamed Sheep Rights
Commissions, because if they are allowed to continue, we will slowly be
transformed into a nation of sheep, willing to think and do only what our
intellectually superior bureaucrats and academics believe is right for us. ...-
http://ezralevant.com/
Former Six Nations official faces charges...72 counts of theft, fraud, forgery
http://tinyurl.com/2bmfsp
""The Canadian Press
Posted Spectator
OHSWEKEN (Feb 28, 2008)
Eight months after stepping down from her position as a Six Nations band councillor, Glenda Porter has been charged with misappropriating funds from three community organizations.
Porter, a respected and longtime politician on the reserve, was arrested Feb. 4 and charged with 72 counts of theft, fraud, forgery and uttering forged documents. She was released on a promise to appear in court on March 13.
The charges relate to Porter's work with the Six Nations Agricultural Society, the Six Nations Skating Club and the Six Nations Historical Society. Porter was a mainstay in the groups, particularly the skating club.
During her band council tenure, Porter held the lands and membership portfolio, the education portfolio and, for a time, sat on the gaming commission that oversaw the local bingo hall.
It was the gaming commission that turned up inconsistencies in the books of several of the groups that Porter represented.""
Phil Fontaine said it was "racists" to suggest there was wide spread corruption in reserve politics.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 29, 2008 7:22 AMMy question about the Cadman Affair is: Why now?
It seems clear to me that the Librano$ have got to the Cadman widow and daughter. Now THERE would be an investigation: Find out why this story--and I'm clear it's just that--this trumped up allegation, has burst onto the scene the morning after the CPC presented their common-sense budget.
The Librano$ cannot STAND the fact that the CPC have credibility in the eyes of a growing number of Canadians, and so seem willing to make utter fools of themselves creating fictional allegations against Prime Minister Harper's government.
I think the RCMP should investigate the Cadman Mere et fille and their connections with the Mo...er, I mean, the motivators in the Librano Party.
Posted by: batb at February 29, 2008 7:28 AM"Weaver Oh, it's ... it drives you nuts."
...-
So cold it's getting hot
It may be cold, but CBC reassures us that calamity still looms
Terence Corcoran
[...]
Mansbridge So with all this talk of brutal cold and all those bulky snow banks, you might be wondering how an old-fashioned Canadian winter can still exist in these days of global warming. It's a question scientists studying climate change get all the time. The CBC's Kelly Crowe now with their answer.
Crowe It's been such a wintery winter, Canadians can't resist asking: Whatever happened to global warming?
Weaver Oh, it's ... it drives you nuts.
[...]
So when it gets hot or when pine beetles infest forests, that's a sign of man-made climate change. But if it gets cold or the ice caps return, that's not a sign of anything. Whatever the facts are, Mr. Weaver and climate activists cannot have it both ways.
In the meantime, in New York this weekend, the largest ever meeting of global-warming skeptics and critics begins. Organized by the the Heartland Institute, the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change expects 500 people to attend to hear papers and ideas from scores of people, including Canadian Ross Mc-Kitrick of Guelph University and Vaclav Klaus, president of the Czech Republic. It's not a science meeting, but it is a rare assemblage of some of the people -- including scientists -- who might be inclined to echo General Motors chairman Bob Lutz, who recently said that he personally thought global warming was a "total crock of shit."
http://tinyurl.com/2tsxyb (finpost)
Something stinks about this whole Cadman affair.
At this point all eyes should be on the widow Cadman, she needs to come clean and clear.
She's running FOR the Conservatives and playing right into the Liberals hands on this by
contradicting her dead husband's statement.
It's time to put an end to this gotcha politics being played by the Liberals and put their dog and pony show out on the road. Coming to a stump near you Puffin Iggy and Buffalo Bob with Dinky Dion garbling, "that's not fair".
Posted by: Liz J at February 29, 2008 7:48 AMConservatives on the eve of the release of a book about her husband. I wonder if she stands to benefit from elevated sales due to this. Another thing, Cadman said just before the vote that he is voting with the wishes of his constituents, but in an interview with CTV Cadman is quoted as saying, "he will not bring down the Martin government because if he dies as a standing MP the government life insurance policy on him pays his wife double" So this was all about money for your wife and not about your constituents after all. What a self righteous bastard. And your wife it appears is a greedy bitch.
Posted by: dj at February 29, 2008 7:54 AMSo Chuck Cadman's wife has some accusations about the Conservatives on the eve of the release of a book about her husband. I wonder if she stands to benefit from elevated sales due to this. Another thing, Cadman said just before the vote that he is voting with the wishes of his constituents, but in an interview with CTV Cadman is quoted as saying, "he will not bring down the Martin government because if he dies as a standing MP the government life insurance policy on him pays his wife double" So this was all about money for your wife and not about your constituents after all. What a self righteous bastard. And your wife it appears is a greedy bitch.
Posted by: dj at February 29, 2008 7:57 AMRe: the Cadman affair. The million dollar life insurance thing seems strange since no insurance company would insure anyone for a pre-existing condition, particularly one which was imminently fatal. CTV showed clips of Cadman himself describing the discussions and he made clear that he was not given any financial inducements. However, there are enough swirling allegations and complaints from people close to Cadman to warrant an investigation. I wonder if the ethics commissioner will censure the Liberals for publicizing recorded conversations as Grewal was censured when he made available the conversations with Dosanj? Could the investigation also widen to include Martin and Stronach as well as the offers allegedly made to Incky Mark (sp ?)? I don't like or condone any such practices including horse trading cabinet posts, senate seats, or public appointments of any sort. It would be nice to have a meritocracy wherein public offices were awarded on merit by an independent party (a concept torpedoed by the current opposition when Harper advanced it) and MPs vote according to their best instincts on the matter before them. The current Canadian political system is way to partisan and while I don't like many aspects of the American system the relative lack of party discipline within it is attractive.
Posted by: DrD at February 29, 2008 8:05 AMlberia;
Are you seriously saying that CC is justified in going after someone's kids because of a dispute he has with their parents? Is that really the way your tiny liberal mind works?
Posted by: Richard Evans at February 29, 2008 8:12 AMAnd now Mr. Beer and Popcorn himself weighs in in The Star - hmmmm let's see,
An advanced copy goes to Paul Martin.
Scott Reid is still smarting from the beating PM took and the fact that Scott fell along with him.
Scott writes an article talking about how great it is that Stephen Harper is falling from grace.
Hmmm - wonder where this whole story started? Wonder how long they were waiting to use this little detail.
Lets see - The Liberals can't defeat the government on the budget, on Afganistan, on the crime bill, but corruption...well that would be something the Liberals could go to the people with. After all - they have been trying for two years to prove that other parties are as bad as they are.
I believe THIS is the election issue - they will now attempt to defeatthe government. I could be wrong, but it just seems toooooo convenient.
Posted by: Alberta Girl at February 29, 2008 8:26 AMlberia: can you tell me more about this Liberal moral code of your in which the open harrassment of children of bloggers is justified?
I'm genuinely intrigued by how you get from A to B here, and would like to hear from a Liberal such as yourself why he supports the harrassment of children of conservative bloggers.
People ask me why I don't blog. I'm not afraid of libel suits, Section 13, threats, or any of that; it's the 100% absolute certainty that due to the fact I am a straight white anglophone male nobody will even notice let alone stand up for me if I take a hit standing up for others, as straight white males have done, perhaps mistakenly, for generations in this dismal and doomed country.
So I don't argue stuff from a perspective of making the world a better place anymore as I doubt very much the world deserves better; it is purely a matter of aesthetics at this point, no different in kind than straightening a crooked picture hanging on the wall.
Posted by: fasddasf at February 29, 2008 8:28 AM"Charged is: Jose Goubian Prado-Carmona, 31. He remains in custody with bail set at $75,000."
The above is found at the very end of the report.
Political correctness rules the MSM.
MSM is/are cowards.
...-
Radio host charged with drug smuggling
Pearson drug smuggler 'betrayed' a community that raised funds for him
By TOM GODFREY, SUN MEDIA
The Toronto Sun
http://tinyurl.com/2sckct
Watching Duffy last nite Re: Cadman, Duffy played the tape of his interview with cadman While Dusjan(whatever it is Former BC Premier) would not Shut Up to let Moore say anything, Very indingnant "Iam speaking i do not interupt you" Then Moore threw that line back when he finaly had a chance to say anything, Dusanj Laughed.
Anyways Duffy made a very Big point of talking about a private chat he had with Cadman before his Death. He(Cadman) told Duffy that if he voted with the opposition & the government was defeated He would lose his "MP's Insurance" of which is Double if you die while in office. anyone else see this, And would you think this is what Cadman mean't when he talked to his wife, The guy was in his final days Emotions were high, Conversations would be very unclear.
just a thought
Wind power monopoly feared
Ontario's new winner-take-all system could see one firm nab most of Crown land left for turbines
http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/308107
Is no one else as outraged as I am about the sudden publicity about Prince Harry's service in Afghanistan? I have a great deal of respect for the young man, who, realizing his privileged position, still will put his life on the line to do what's right. But, the MSM's sudden excitement about this just makes the young man a propaganda target; imagine the video and pictures across the Islamofascist world if he were killed. I'm not suggesting he needs more protection than any other soldier, from any other country. But does he deserve more exposure and publicity? Shame.
Posted by: KevinB at February 29, 2008 9:15 AMSo Cadman votes with the Libbies, saves PMPM's a$$, and his death benefits for his widow?
Maybe the Libbies got to him on that!
That's what really happened.
Posted by: puddin and pie at February 29, 2008 9:35 AMMy understanding is that the episode was described in an earlier version of the book and that the book is not released yet. I am not sure if the passage will be in the final version. What appears to have happened is that someone "leaked" this specific information. Paul Martin was one individual that had access to the earlier draft. Now why would someone select out this specific passage to pass on to the media -- because it is another opportunity for a political smear. At the point, the mileage that Liberals will get out of Shreiber/Mulronely is limited. Unfortunately (for them) I think they begin to look foolish. The Grand Inquisitors (ethics committee) is considering investigating this episode -- boring us all to tears again for something that cannot be proven. Maybe the Harper government is not perfect, but I am convinced that Harper himself is a pretty straight shooter and these smear tactics are not the way to bring him down. (Look at all the wasted effort on the Mulroney thing -- nothing proven, Canadians are bored and Harper has remained above the fray -- though a couple of embarrassments for the Liberals (Pablo, Szabo, harassment of the cook)The Liberals would have much more credibility if they focussed on policy issues. Unfortunately for them Harper is doing a very decent job policy wise. If they are looking for another Adscam, they won't get it -- Adscam was about blatant stealing from the taxpayers -- and not even Mulroney is being accused of that.
Posted by: LindaL at February 29, 2008 9:47 AMIts funny this all comes to light just when cadmans book is to be released.If the rcmp investigate this they should also investigate who stands to gain from the sales of this book and how much.(personally i think mr cadmans wife is up to no good,why would she wait 3 fkn yrs to start contradicting her late husband now)financail gains i suspect?
Posted by: Ralph in the east at February 29, 2008 9:51 AMIts funny this all comes to light just when cadmans book is to be released.If the rcmp investigate this they should also investigate who stands to gain from the sales of this book and how much.(personally i think mr cadmans wife is up to no good,why would she wait 3 fkn yrs to start contradicting her late husband now)financail gains i suspect?
Posted by: Ralph in the east at February 29, 2008 9:51 AMSo a dying man makes sure his wife and family are taken care of in his absence.
The order of priorities is GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY.
So Chuck Cadman went to his final rest knowing his family would be secure. Yes I'm sure the entire country will hold that decision against him.
This whole story is just so odious it stinks to high heaven.
Cheers
A few points re Cadman:
Forget about the widow and daughter. They were not at the meeting. The Chuck Cadman said no
bribe was offered.
The possibility of the Conservative party actually being able to get insurance for Cadman would have been nil. If you were going to pay for such a policy it would have cost you more than the payout. What party would be so foolish as to empty their war chest just to precipitate an election?
Although many conservatives were panting for an election in public, in private the party was admitting that they were not ready. In fact one party stratagist said at the time of the vote that Belinda and Chuck saved the Conservatives from electoral defeat. By putting off the election for a time it allowed the Conservatives to get people and money in place to win the minority they now enjoy.
One last point improbable as it would be that the Conservatives offered Cadman insurance it would have only served to level the playing field. Cadman, according to Duffy, was going to vote for the gvt for finacial gain for his soon to be widow not the good of his nation or constituents. In other words Cadman had already been bribed by the generous renumeration that all MPs enjoy at taxpayer expense. His vote was not for sale only because it had already been sold.
Very interesting article on the women in Obama's life.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html
Here's a couple of quotes:
"Never underestimate the influence of a wife who bitch-slaps her husband in public. Early in Obama's campaign, Michelle Obama could not restrain herself from belittling the senator. "I have some difficulty reconciling the two images I have of Barack Obama. There's Barack Obama the phenomenon. He's an amazing orator, Harvard Law Review, or whatever it was, law professor, best-selling author, Grammy winner. Pretty amazing, right? And then there's the Barack Obama that lives with me in my house, and that guy's a little less impressive," she told a fundraiser in February 2007"
"Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.
There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech."
Posted by: Andrew at February 29, 2008 10:11 AMRe the whole Cadman affair,I watched Primetime politics with Peter van Dusen last eve,and he clearly stated as well,that he had asked Cadman about any inducements/offers re his vote,and was told NO as well.Why isn't this being broadcast as well,as it backs up what Duff was also told.
Posted by: Sammy at February 29, 2008 10:16 AMIf the worst of the Cadman bribery allegations is true then the CPC should be ashamed of their behavior.
Bryanr's view of Duffy's interview makes more sense. That it was about the MP's life insurance policy. A promise that the CPC would guarantee that his wife would not lose money in the event of his death or election loss. This type of exchanging of benefits for votes still stinks but is not nearly as offensive.
I agree that the timing and inability for either side to be able to prove or disprove the allegations is awfully suspicious. It is the type of thing that confirms people opinions regarding the slimy nature of politicians. It think that the CPC and LPC will both look bad. The CPC if it is true and the LPC for trying to make political points at the expense of the family of a deceased and respected MP.
Not only are the Liberals attempting to play "gotcha" politics they are aided and abetted by a toxic and hostile MSM.
The same MSM that enabled the malfeasant bastard Liberal regime of Chretien / Martin to rob the till blind for a decade to finance with stuffed brown envelopes their cronies in Quebec.
Puffy Duffy, Craig Oliver et al gleefully poking the Harper conservatives in the eye with "gotcha" on essentially a non-issue while dragging in a dead man to boot.
Puffy Duffy knew how Cadman was going to vote the day of the vote.
Posted by: Joe Molnar at February 29, 2008 10:25 AMHeather MacDonald
The Campus Rape Myth
The reality: bogus statistics, feminist victimology, and university-approved sex toys
It’s a lonely job, working the phones at a college rape crisis center. Day after day, you wait for the casualties to show up from the alleged campus rape epidemic—but no one calls. Could this mean that the crisis is overblown? No: it means, according to the campus sexual-assault industry, that the abuse of coeds is worse than anyone had ever imagined. It means that consultants and counselors need more funding to persuade student rape victims to break the silence of their suffering.
The campus rape movement highlights the current condition of radical feminism, from its self-indulgent bathos to its embrace of ever more vulnerable female victimhood. But the movement is an even more important barometer of academia itself. http://tinyurl.com/yv2thn
Posted by: maz2 at February 29, 2008 10:26 AMA feature report on hydrogen-powered vehicles:
David Shamah, H 2 Go
(PDF warning) Bruce Riedel and Bilal Y. Saab, Al Qaeda's Third Front: Saudi Arabia
Osama bin Laden had ambitious plans to follow up the attacks of September 11, 2001. He and his top aides expected that an invasion of Afghanistan would follow their "Manhattan Raid" and welcomed it as a chance to ensnare the United States in what they hoped would become a bloody quagmire. Washington's invasion of Iraq in early 2003 offered bin Laden more than he could ever wish for: the chance of a second U.S. quagmire. Bin Laden also had a third front in mind: his own homeland in Saudi Arabia, where he would wage a terrorist campaign with the intention of driving the United States and its British allies out of Islam's holy land and of toppling the "apostate" Saudi monarchy...
Interesting how the Liberal focus is always to try to suggest corruption.
Their own multimillion dollar theft from the taxpayer is dismissed as 'what's a few million against the break-up of the country' and 'it was just a few rogues'.
Their attempt to link Schreiber's tactics of staying out of a German jail to Harper, have failed, but the cost to the taxpayer have been enormous. And Schreiber is still here.
Now, they are attempting to suggest that Harper's party offered a million dollar insurance policy to a man with a terminal cancer whom no insurance would cover? That's as believable as Chretien's insistence that no Liberals knew about Adscam.
I think that Cadman's wife was mistaken; the insurance policy her husband was talking to her about, was not one being offered by the CPC but was the House policy for sitting MPs.
I wonder if the financial offer was to cover the costs of losing the DOUBLE value of the insurance policy if one dies when one is no longer a sitting MP. Cadman knew his cancer was terminal; that had to be a consideration for his decision on dealing with a vote, and also, with dealing with his family.
That is - apparently the insurance policy on all MPs, carried by and paid for by the govt, is such that if you die as a sitting MP, the value of the policy is doubled. I'm guessing, purely guessing that the face value is 500,000.
This means that if Cadman voted against the Liberals and the House fell - it would make him no longer a 'sitting MP'. Since his cancer was terminal, his House insurance policy would be 'face value'. Were the CPC offering him that extra value, the double value, if he allowed the Liberals to lose power?
Posted by: ET at February 29, 2008 10:31 AMRe Richard Evans:
Funny how you twist things around. CC wrote in his blog:
"So here's the deal -- as long as Dick insists on redirecting that look-alike domain to NAMBLA, I will continue to post increasingly personal information about his family. See how that works? In short, what happens from here on out is entirely in Dick's hands. All that remains to be seen is whether it's more important for Dick to protect his family's privacy, or for him to score points being an irresponsible dipshit."
Dick responded:
"The domain stays up..."
"Do your best CC..."
You play with fire, you get burnt. Now stop your whinning.
I think that the Cadman story is all about setting up the opposition to look like erratic fools. I was wondering if Cadman rejoined the Conservatives if he would be covered by a group insurance policy but then it was pointed out that as an MP he would already be covered. If true then it just shows how ignorant the opposition is.
Posted by: truthsayer at February 29, 2008 10:32 AMHow could/can a widow and doctor belittle their fathers/husbands name like that. What did the liberals give them. I wont buy the book. She is the cindy sheenan of canada.
The liberals are low, but this is the lowest of the low.
Anyone with common sense knew why he refused to bring the government down. For his family to receive all the benefits of an MP's pension etc.
Bet she is not a candidate for long, didn't she support the NDP last time. That woman can not be trusted.
From an interview with Cadman, after the vote in May 2005:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116543501917_10/?hub=TopStories
""I was responding to my constituents. Primarily, it was that they didn't feel they were prepared to go into an election," he told CTV reporter Roger Smith.
As for the timing of his decision, Cadman explained he made up his mind "about a half hour before I came to the House."
When asked about rumours he was offered by Conservatives an unopposed nomination in exchange for his vote on the budget bills, Cadman admitted they were true.
"The discussions did come up," he admitted on CTV's COUNTDOWN with Mike Duffy later Thursday night. "The talk did come up, yeah."
Cadman said he refused, however.
"That was the only offer on anything that I had from anybody," he added, rebuffing suggestions he made a deal to throw his support behind the Liberals.
"There were no offers on that table up to that point, on anything from anybody.""
This story was out there way back in May of 2005.
To have one version of the book transcript sent to Paul Martin, first, is terribly troubling.
That Dona Cadman was giving the nod to a personal friend, Penny Priddy, a former NDP MLA, over the CPC candidate is very curious.
That she would now have her name on the CPC ballot is plain odd.
Dona Cadman, you are a big girl now, playing in the big game, by your own choice. Where are you?
Get out there and answer these questions, in person, Ms Cadman.
Posted by: BB at February 29, 2008 10:40 AMThis Cadman affair is showing just how low the Liberals will stoop. With that kind of desperation there is no way in hell the people of this country should trust them anywhere near power.
Posted by: Liz J at February 29, 2008 10:47 AMCaroline Glick, The curse of the moderates
Ten days after the Pakistani elections, the geopolitical consequences of President Pervez Musharraf's defeat are beginning to come into focus. And they are grim...
In a report this week, Asia Time's Pakistan bureau chief Syed Saleem Shahzad wrote that with their territorial gains on both sides of the border, the Taliban and al-Qaida intend to create a strategic corridor from western Pakistan to Kabul and cut off NATO forces' supply lines from Pakistan. Those supply lines were already attacked in January.
Shahzad reported that the Pakistani military and NATO forces in Afghanistan are gearing up to preempt the Taliban-al-Qaida offensive, scheduled for April, with an offensive of their own in March. But he notes that the election results in Pakistan could prevent such an offensive from taking place...
The Shahzad article is here: The Taliban have Kabul in their sights
Super sleuth Iberia has the answer to the perplexing insurance problem:
"It's a word game. "Insurance" is just a weasel word for a payment to Cadman."
The brainless twat, however, doesn't understand that yes, the key word is "insurance," which actually means, you know, insurance.
This mess isn't going anywhere, except to put more egg on Dion's face, to accompany both feet in his mouth.
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The 'Fifth Estate' on air promotion is nauseating - it's all about getting to the bottom of the $300,000 Mulroney/Shreiber Affair. But, how about the $20 million Liberal pillaging of the tax payers affair, which has never been explained, let alone investigated? Or, how Chretien retired a multimillionaire affair, after having only spent 5 years in the private sector? Or, Paul Martin's shipping and cocaine affair? Or...
Posted by: irwin daisy at February 29, 2008 11:00 AMI went and viewed the Interview on Last nites Duffy with the Author again, this is where you will see duffy point talk about the private talk with Cadman. Duffy points out that he expected Cadman was not going to vote with the opposition over the fact of his MP's insurance.
Another thing the Author of the book is kinda evasive in his replies to Duffy.
2 & 2 is not adding up to 4, there seems to something fishy about the whole thing, The authors answers, the phone interview with Cadmans wife, Why would she shoot herself in the foot?(Conservative nomination)just don't add up.
Morality, justice and women's rights: a portrait of Islam for the 21st century
Turkey's highest religious authority is preparing to publish a groundbreaking guide to Islam for the modern world, putting the words of the Prophet Muhammad into context for a sweeping reinterpretation of the religion.
The Presidency of Religious Affairs in this Muslim, but strongly secular, country has commissioned a thorough review of the sayings of the Prophet, or the Hadith, which constitute the second most sacred text in the religion after the Koran...
He said that one of the aims was to separate the religion from the traditionalist cultural elements that have long hampered a true vision of Islam. The Hadith guide, to be published as a book this year, would make it much more difficult to justify extreme, misogynistic and violent interpretations of Islam, Professor Gormez said...
See also Libby Purves, An Islamic Reformation in Turkey: women, obedience and authority
Mr Beer and Popcorn Scott Reid's suggestion that somehow the $50,000 Conservatives gave to former Ottawa South CPC candidate Alan Riddell was unethical shows how unethical Scott Reid is. Yet again, he continues to spread wild falsehoods.
As far as I know the only money offered to the former Conservative candidate was to cover expenses already incurred on behalf of the party. Covering expenses can hardly be considered as a bribe or a financial inducement.
Posted by: Brian at February 29, 2008 11:18 AMRe: Cadman "affair." I have a solution - let's get the book that names names, and well, release an electronic version of the whole thing. Then we can all judge for ourselves. The author doesn't agree - quelle surprise!! Isn't this really about selling a book.
Dion was embarassing yesterday. He repeats someone else's allegation, which itself is based on very sketchy information, then goes chapter and verse on the law on the matter, then calls "it" a "high crime," then sits down with a petulant schoolboy look on his face.
Ignatieff was the bigger laugh though. He backhandedly asks if PM accusing Mrs Cadman of lying, as if it can only be A or B, her second-hand allegations are true, or she's lying. Is that the kind of critical thinking he expected from his students?
Maybe it was a misunderstanding. I think this author is a bit of a scumbag. I understand Mrs Cadman was quite surprised upon hearing about this. We need to hear much more from her. By all means, let's have the RCMP investigate; but, Harper must put his foot down on this one, and have all the shenanigans investigated, as suggested above by others. The Dosanj affair is particularly stinky, so is giving a cabinet post to a rookie MP (Stronach), and on and on. Let's clear the air completely.
If the "officials" did indeed make an inappropriate offer, or leave impression of one, that is on their head, then they should be held accountable.
Some actual, documented evidence, as exists in the Dosanj affair, would be nice; or is proof another weasel word.
Thank you, lberia, for explaining your support for the harrassment of the children of bloggers.
I was genuinely curious to understand how a Liberal supporter such as you might justify their support of the harassment of children, at school, in Canada, in the year 2008, over some blog dispute.
Thank you, Liberal supporter lberia, for explaining your support of child harassment at school.
Posted by: fasddasf at February 29, 2008 11:20 AMHate to say this, but Dona Cadman doesn't come across as very bright. She knows this book will come out (they asked the guy to write the biography) and she still wants to run as a Conservative? Did she not think she would cause some problems? Here's a woman who vocally supported Penny Priddy (NDP) running in '06 in her late husband's riding. It's probably safe to say that Priddy will enjoy success in that riding for years to come.
I'm not impressed with any of the key players here (and that includes Chuck and how he obviously had his mind made up and played Canadians as fools for weeks wondering what he would do - even having polls in his riding).
Posted by: Soccermom at February 29, 2008 11:26 AMYou should know better than that fasddasf there nothing lower than a scared liebriel.
Posted by: Ralph in the east at February 29, 2008 11:33 AM The malevolent glee of the Libs at having found a 'shiny thing' in the Cadman story confirms my belief that the RCMP should be called in to investigate Shawinigate and the Relocation scandal among many other things associated with the libs. This is long past due.
A major attitude adjustment upside-the-head is needed.
They have become the National Enquirer Party.
Rich: "They have become the National Enquirer Party."
Hmm, you may be onto something there. Call them that, or the NEP for short. Heh.
Posted by: Johann at February 29, 2008 11:38 AMJohann
yup....only one step removed from the nDp
Speak out against muslim genital mutilation, and end up dead in the Seine.
In France!
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/02/29/katoucha.dead.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Posted by: richfisher at February 29, 2008 11:41 AMMARY T @ 10;35 AM -
"I wont buy the book. She is the Cindy Sheenan of Canada."
MARY T has it right in my view.
Mrs Cadman may well be untrustworthy in this saga.
As well, Duffy knew in advance how Cadman was going to vote in order to keep the Libs in power and keep his MP benefits if or when he lost his cancer battle.
The Libs and MSM and perhaps Mrs Cadman think it's a good payback time for the Harper conservatives.
Posted by: Joe Molnar at February 29, 2008 11:43 AMThat is - apparently the insurance policy on all MPs, carried by and paid for by the govt, is such that if you die as a sitting MP, the value of the policy is doubled. I'm guessing, purely guessing that the face value is 500,000.
Hindsight is 20-20, but that rider really should be amended. Cadman was presented with the option of voting purely as a representative of his constituents or voting so that his family could reap the benefits. Not a good choice to put in front of an MP.
I seem to recall that the Libs coerced Belinda across the aisle as the denouement of a week in which Paul Martin bucked constitutional conventions. Professor Michael Bliss wrote at that time:
Canadians ought to realize that this week's breakdown of their Parliament is far more serious than any of the thuggish revelations from the Gomery commission. As of this weekend, we are in the historically unprecedented situation of having a Prime Minister who is clinging to office by recklessly disregarding the fundamental principles of our democracy. It is a shocking act of proto-tyranny, which justifies the extreme resort of intervention by the Governor-General.
The Liberals have a message:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ME6bSd2bKU0
Posted by: theredsuit at February 29, 2008 11:59 AMCTV breaking news on Osama bin Lying: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080228/turkey_Gates_080228/20080228?hub=TopStories
Posted by: Doug at February 29, 2008 11:59 AMAnyone else receive an "offer-you-can't-refuse" from the Globe And Mail ??
G&M called; If we buy a 3 month sub for $26/month, the Globe will supply free, 2 return air fare out of Vancouver to anywhere (a list of 40 destinations, including; Hawaii, Spain, GB, Carrib, Florida, Mexico, Canada, ect)
Even if it is an Air Miles type of Zig Zag route -- seems too good to be true, no ?
Posted by: ron in kelowna at February 29, 2008 12:02 PM"G&M called; If we buy a 3 month sub for $26/month, the Globe will supply free, 2 return air fare out of Vancouver to anywhere (a list of 40 destinations, including; Hawaii, Spain, GB, Carrib, Florida, Mexico, Canada, ect)"
Hmmmm - would that consitute a "bribe"? Just wondering?
Beating the Cadman Thing to death....
Since this story broken by Boag hit the wires NOT one public comment by Donna Cadman... or her daughter. Closed interviews with CBC hacks do NOT provide any evidence of fact or truth ... so let's hear it from the Horses Mouth ... Donna Cadman you are on the hotseat.
This stinks of confabulation by Zytaruk Boag etal...
And NO surprise that Dion and the Libs were prepared to jump all over the story in the house ... another case of being prepped by CBC?
Bet on it!
Yes indeed let's get to the bottom of it ... quickly!
An Insurance company would jump at the chance to insure a diagnosed pending fatality.
They would collect premiums and then be under no obligation to pay out due to medical records.
A no-risk contract. = TG
Posted by: TG at February 29, 2008 12:24 PM
TG , Then it shouldn't be at all difficult for you to provide one example please.
Anyone remotely familiar with insurance products knows you cannot qualify for life insurance with pre-existing terminal conditions.
This is a bad/cruel joke news story for the promotion of book sales. The premise is entirely MORONIC!!
No wonder Mrs. Cadman hasn't answered any of these allegations as they are completely PREPOSTEROUS and not deserving of acknowledgement.
Ask ANY Type 1 - Insulin Dependent Diabetic whether they can purchase a life insurance policy.
Cheers
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at February 29, 2008 12:59 PMThe Washroom Nazi Hunter has just repeated Jim Henley's smear of Mark Steyn.
Time for a libel suit?
Posted by: Chris Vanoostveen at February 29, 2008 1:22 PMLiberal MP, Shawn Murphy on the former Prime Minister yesterday:
http://canadianbluelemons.blogspot.com/2008/02/reid-dishon-shawn-murphy-lib-mp.html
"You can see the video here. Go to 4:12:15 for the start. Here are some gems from the (dis)Hon. Member from Charlottetown:
"Bring forth Brian Mulroney.
Bring him to court, hang him high.
Hang Mulroney.
Hang Mulroney, that's what we want to do.
Let's get this Mulroney before the courts as soon as possible and hang him high.
Put a noose on his head."
A point of order has been raised with The Speaker by Ed Fast CPC MP.
Posted by: BB at February 29, 2008 1:54 PMI may have missed it, but the term insurance policy on the late Mr. Cadman is no different than any other sitting MP has.
The pertinent fact in this matter is whether the Canadian populace would be sent into an election if Cadman had voted with the Conservatives.
Once the writ was dropped, all term insurance would be dropped. Therefore, Cadman would not be covered.
A vote to prolong Parliament meant that Cadman's heirs would be eligible for the insurance payout and that's exactly what happened since he died while Parliament was still in session.
Just guessing, but the Conservative Party delegates may have somehow assured Cadman that he would not jeapordize his survivors' financial future if he voted against the sitting government. Yet, Cadman denies such an offer was made.
Cadman decided on the safety of the existing MP's term insurance and good for him.
"The pictures show Obama wearing traditional Somalian garb on a 2006 visit to the Wajir region of Kenya, where his late father was born.
Obama has fought a whisper campaign by fringe elements who wrongly say he is Muslim and have even compared his name to Osama bin Laden's, as well as highlighted his middle name, Hussein.
The photo showed Obama wearing a turban and being outfitted in other traditional clothing alongside Sheik Mohamed Hassan.
"He [Hassan] was the right person to perform any such activity like dressing a visitor like Obama with traditional Somali clothes," Mukhtar Sheik Nur, another leader, told Reuters.
Full story here:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02292008/news/nationalnews/tribes_rage_at_hill_99817.htm
richfisher....zing!!
Posted by: clair voyant at February 29, 2008 2:10 PMSet you free - it's likely, that his MP term insurance was in effect as long as he was the MP - IOW until after an election. Even then, I'm not so sure. I wish I had more time to research this.
For instance, serving members of CF has supplementary death benefit (SDB), which is two years pay at time of death, or when retired from CF. That extends after retirement, though, and starts reducing at age 65.
I wonder if the MP plan works like this? Can anyone shed light on this. Depending on how one looks at this, they could argue that propping up Liberals actually keeps Cadman's insurance in place; or, his helping to defeat government might disentitle his coverage after election, in which he doesn't run.
Anyway, we're getting closer to truth of matter, I think. We need to hear from those officials who had discussion with Cadman, to clear the air.
In any event, if opposition feels so strongly about this, they are free to introduce non-confidence motion on Opposition Day. I doubt they will, though; it's easier to sling mud from the privilege of HofC.
Posted by: Shamrock at February 29, 2008 2:18 PMre: Life Insurance and Cadman. I have done some quick research and, from what I read, Cadman's life insurance would continue after he retired as MP, because he did qualify for MP pension (1997 - 2005 is more than six years required).
So, if I'm correct (and certainly will yield to better research), whether of not Liberals defeated in 2005, would have no effect on Cadman's eligibily for life insurance plan.
As for private insurance, no way, period. Even the no-evidence plans, which give no/little insurance coverage for two years, do ask if person diagnosed with, among other things, terminal cancer.
We need to hear more from Mrs Cadman, and Tory officials involved. Maybe Mr Cadman, on heavy medication, unintentionally misled his family. Obviously, I don't know - but isn't that a possibility?
Anyway, let's have an election over this; works for me.
Posted by: Shamrock at February 29, 2008 2:30 PMThe pictures show Obama wearing traditional Somalian garb on a 2006 visit to the Wajir region of Kenya, where his late father was born.
Posted by: Brent Weston at February 29, 2008 2:07 PM
The saga continues, with blog reaction to the photo from al Qaedists:
(Via City of Brass) 'Muslim' Flap Stirs Al Qaeda Message Board
Al Hesbah is one of al Qaeda’s main cyber mouthpieces. It has been cited numerous times by name in official communiqués issued by bin Laden’s terror network, been featured in propaganda films produced on behalf of mujahideen organizations, including al Qaeda...
So those who follow al Qaeda took notice this week when members of the mujahideen took notice of the image of Barack Obama dressed as a Somali elder on the Drudge Report. Evan Kohlmann of Global Terror Alert, and an NBC News terrorism analyst, was among those who watched as the Al Hesbah message board lit up...
In fact, Kohlmann added, al-Qaeda supporters are so insistent about their hatred for Obama that they have gone as far as to portray him as an "Iranian agent" secretly sent to take over the United States and fight a war against Sunni Muslims.
You want scandal?
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/02/29/post-appeal.html
National Post ordered to turn over documentation regarding possible money owed, by Jean Chretien, to Inn owner whom he was lobbying to receive BDBC loan.
There you go, lberia, a real scandal to chew on.
Posted by: Shamrock at February 29, 2008 2:45 PMshamrock - yes, we need to know more about MP's benefits. Besides their salaries, what benefits do they receive?
If they only have term insurance which ends as soon as their MP term ends, then, it is a question whether the two Conservatives suggested that, if Cadman's term as MP ended due to the fall of the House, and his MP term insurance therefore ended...that the party would cover it.
Are MPs provided with term insurance?
How much was this term insurance for?
Certainly, pension benefits would continue for his survivors.
I think we need to know more and it's tiresome to hear the House focused only on tabloid issues rather than the work of the country. Can't the Liberals do any solid work?
Posted by: ET at February 29, 2008 2:52 PMET: I think that the basic reason that the Liberals have decided to run with the Cadman story is that tabloid issues are all they can get their heads around these days.
The Liberals have pretty much conceded the field of ideas (i.e., the economy, the environment, political reform, law and order) to the Harper Tories. So what's left for them other than to jump all over the government for some alleged breach of ethics for which there is no paper trail and which rests upon a swirl of rumours and hearsay? It's the Schreiber inquiry all over again.
Like the Schreiber inquiry, these allegations will temporarily hurt the government in the polls. But by and of themselves, they're not sufficient to mount an election campaign on, and the Liberals have no intention of doing so.
Posted by: Dennis at February 29, 2008 2:58 PMShamrock:
Now there is a potential scandal to be proven:
the PMO using the RCMP to play "Financial Gestapo" with the president of the BDBC. That made for a pretty good court case for wrongful dismissal as well. Mr. Beaudoin if my memory serves correctly.
http://www.canlii.org/fr/qc/qccs/doc/2004/2004canlii581/2004canlii581.html
No loans for the golf course, gets you dismissed. Yes maybe the Federal Court should have been looking into this a long time ago.
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at February 29, 2008 3:24 PMIrwin Daisy:
Read the comment by set you fre at 2 pm. Perhaps the Cons were offering him "insurance" to cover the loss his MP policy if an election was called. I'm not surprised youf feeble brain can't envision that, so why don't you just go back to making disparaging remarks about muslims.
fasddasf:
You must be Dick's sock puppet.
Shamrock:
I'd love to see Chretien get spanked in court, but I've given up hope on any possibility of a highly elected official (former or serving) being convicted of anything.
Posted by: lberia at February 29, 2008 3:38 PMGerry Ritz, Minister of Agriculture, is supposed to make an announcement at the Legislative Building in Regina this afternoon regarding the Canadian Wheat board and the monopoly on barley sales.
Could it be that this will be presented as a matter of confidence?
You would hear the collective GULP from the Liberals all the way from Ottawa to Saskatchewan.
Reports on Newstalk 980 are that there are some demonstrators there waiting for the announcement and things are getting a little testy to the point of pushing and shoving.
Stay tuned...could be fun!!
Posted by: clair voyant at February 29, 2008 3:42 PMA Liberal MP is threatening to bring down the Tory Government over the Cadman affair.
Yes!!...bring it on!!...oh wait, what's that?...its Garth Turner who's saying that?...never mind, its all b.s.
Posted by: clair voyant at February 29, 2008 4:01 PMIt is obvious someone is lying in the Cadman fiasco. Chucky either lied to his bride,or repeatedly to the media,or the little missus is making the whole thing up. Either way the family name and reputation is shredded. In the Shrieber fiasco,either Mulroney or Schrieber have pants on fire,but Mulroney's name and reputation has been shredded. Do the Liberals care? Not a chance,they are morally bankrupt and will do anything for power.If it wasn't for the support of the cbc(the unofficial opposition)they would be wallowing in the ditch with the green party.
Posted by: wallyj at February 29, 2008 4:05 PMShocked? CBC says the raid shocked the mayor. The raid shocked her? Not the roosters? Not the blood?
...-
Cockfighting raid shocks mayor of Surrey, BC
CBC British Columbia - 2 hours ago
Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts said Thursday she was shocked to learn that cockfighting was going on in her city. (cbc)
lberia: "I'd love to see Chretien get spanked in court, but I've given up hope on any possibility of a highly elected official (former or serving) being convicted of anything."
You may be right; or maybe you're just cynical, as many are. I can understand cynicism given the treasury looting of the previous Grit governments, and possibly Mulroney era.
Also: "Read the comment by set you free at 2 pm. Perhaps the Cons were offering him "insurance" to cover the loss his MP policy if an election was called."
Again, lberia, read my posts on this matter. I suspected that the MP's life insurance plan continued after retirement. From what I've found, as long as Cadman was entitled to MP pension, his life insurance remained in force. Since, as I understand, six years is minimum time for MP pension, Cadman, who served from 1997 to 2005, he would qualify.
If I'm wrong on this, by all means let me know; anyone. I haven't had a chance to do more thorough research.
But, if this matter is to be investigated by RCMP, let them also investigate the Dosanj and Stronach affairs, among others.
Posted by: Shamrock at February 29, 2008 4:45 PMDhimmis in Holland cower in the Zee of multiculturalism.
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Cabinet Panic over Koran Film
THE HAGUE, 01/03/08 - If Dutch companies, citizens and interests abroad are hurt following MP Geert Wilders' film on the Koran, there is only one person responsible, according to Prime Minister Balkenende. "At this moment, a great responsibility is resting on Mr. Wilders".
The cabinet on Friday produced an official statement that Prime Minister Balkenende read out after his weekly cabinet meeting. It was meant to smooth over remarks by Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen that Wilders should cancel his film, due for release in March. "Do not broadcast it," said Verhagen to public broadcaster NOS on Thursday night. ...-
http://www.nisnews.nl/public/010308_1.htm
It was confirmed on the 4:00 news on Newstalk 980 Regina that the Tories are going to bring a motion into Parliament on Monday to end the Canadian Wheat Board monopoly on barley sales.
After being told by the courts on two separate occasions that this MUST be passed by Parliament, one can only assume that the only way the Tories can get the result that they are looking for is to make it a matter of confidence, so if it gets voted down we would be into an election.
The Liberals will be really backed into a corner because if they side with the Government to save their sorry-ass jobs they will again look like the enornous hypocrits that they are after crowing so long and hard that the monopoly must be kept in place.
Don,t you just love it?...PMSH outsmarts the stupid Liberals yet again!!
Posted by: clair voyant at February 29, 2008 5:15 PMShamrock,
I agree with you, Cadman may have been confused.
Both my father and my father-in-law died of cancer and they were very often confused in the last 6 months of their lives.
The drugs they were on reduced them to hapless people intellectually and confusion was common.
However, that being said if there was wrong doing I would punish those involved harshly despite being a conservative.
I would do this even knowing Liberals would give an Order Of Canada medal for similar behavior. Whoops I forgot, they already have!
Iberia,
But making disparaging remarks about you is so much more fun. Plus, there's the added bonus that there's a lot to work with.
Posted by: irwin daisy at February 29, 2008 5:25 PMShamrock:
I think that in the event of death, Cadman's family was only entitled to twice his yearly earnings, considerably less than the alleged $1M "insurance policy" he was offered.
irwin:
I could care less what kind of remarks you make about me...I just consider the source.
Posted by: lberia at February 29, 2008 5:47 PMlike a rock???, apparently the rocks properties are the schist
From Mike Duffy Live, CTV Newsnet, February 28:
Mike Duffy: "Can I share something with you, which I haven't shared
publicly until now? ... And that is in private conversations with
me, Chuck Cadman told me, that there was no way he was going to vote
against the Martin government, because he was concerned of the
potential impact it might have on the insurance settlement for his
wife Dona. In other words: if he died while a sitting MP, Chuck told
me, 'that would double or virtually double the payout to his widow'
and he didn't 'dare take a risk forcing an election', even if he was
confident of being elected, for fear of some legal hassle involving
an insurance payout
lberia, I'm just trying to provide context whereby Mrs Cadman misunderstood her husband, who maybe wasn't quite clear enough, given he was dying and likely under pain medication.
As for your point about life insurance, as has been pointed out, again, and again, and again ... terminally ill people don't qualify for life insurance. That's the terminology used - life insurance policy. You can spin that to mean whatever you want, but it would be idle speculation.
As I said, RCMP should investigate, as well as Grit offers made in the same time frame. It's frankly amazing that people are trying to read into taped conversation of PM, but prepared to ignore Dosanj clearly offering a benefit, IMO an illegal benefit. Our MSM friends let Dosanj completely off hook on this one.
Like I said, double standard anyone?
Posted by: Shamrock at February 29, 2008 6:02 PMLibs make warm fuzzy blanket offers? (Ujjal?)
Cons offer Cadman uncontested nomination.
Dion appoints women candidates.
Martin appoints Belinda.
MacKay sez dogs are loyal.
Some dogs bite posties.
is this all there is?
as good as it gets?
Posted by: puddin and pie at February 29, 2008 6:25 PMAmerican Thinker:
"Canada, our friendly neighbor and number one foreign oil supplier."
Hussein and Hillary: idiotarians*.
...-
The danger of Obama's amateur diplomacy
Thomas Lifson
After suggesting that he would invade our ally Pakistan and talk to our enemy Iran, Barack Obama has moved on to potentially damage our relations with Canada, our friendly neighbor and number one foreign oil supplier.
Under the terms of NAFTA, Canada is prohibited from cutting off oil exports to the US if there is a worldwide shortage or supply disruption unless supplies are also rationed to Canadian consumers by the same amount.
After the Hillary/Obama debate, Canada's trade minister pointed out that if NAFTA is re-opened, Canada might want to opt out of this clause, which would then leave Canada free to sell its oil to any other country for whatever price it could get.
http://tinyurl.com/3bhfur
*H/T LGF
This is the real thing. An insight to why some are cut down in Vancouver streets by gun and knife.
Actual Supreme Court account begins with stabbing 53 times and moves to other killings with many players.
Reality more gripping than any novel.
http://tinyurl.com/329frf
Exciting times in Vancouver, Richmond, Delta, Surrey and up the valley to Kent Max Security Prison. = TG
Posted by: TG at February 29, 2008 6:55 PMMaybe,just maybe Mr.Cadman was confused,and indeed he had offer of an 'incentive' but,it was the Libs making the offer.Why did he vote Lib?Why is Dona still a Con if this is such an outrage/Something missing here folks,and I think the Libs will end up eggy-faced.
Posted by: Sammy at February 29, 2008 6:57 PMShamrock, I know that terminally ill people don't qualify for insurance (hence the quotation marks). Cadman seemed pretty lucid during his interviews, as I recall, and his widow and daughter seem to be telling the same story. Idle speculation? We'll find out soon enough...
Posted by: lberia at February 29, 2008 7:18 PMhttp://tinyurl.com/3bpo53
Future of CBC splits committee along party lines:
The Ottawa Citizen
Posted by: MaryM at February 29, 2008 8:32 PM"...terminally ill people don't qualify for life insurance. That's the terminology used - life insurance policy. You can spin that to mean whatever you want, but it would be idle speculation."
This is exactly the point that has been explained to you over and over again. As usual though, Iberia, your idiot brain isn't able to process facts.
And what do you think you're going to find out? The beans are fully spilt. The book is out. This can not lead to anything more than what it is - hearsay and unfounded allegations.
Unless, of course, you have a medium that talks to the dead. Which, for a character such as yourself, is more than believable.
Posted by: irwin daisy at February 29, 2008 8:40 PMSomething to be said for the Liberals going after a story about someone who is dead. It's not unusual for Liberals. Remember how Volpe trolled the graveyards for voters?
This crazy Cadman affair will smother the Liberals in dung in the end.
Another sign they're losing their minds was displayed in the HOC QP yesterday by Shawn Murphy, MP from PEI. He was ranting on like a raving idiot while the MP beside him was asking a question about Brian Mulroney. Old Shawn was talking over the questioner and calling for Mulroney to be hung among other things, must have had too much potato wine for lunch. It was baffling why the Speaker didn't stop it. Sad spectacle.
Posted by: Liz J at February 29, 2008 9:15 PMCadman overheard something about a possible insurance policy for him if he were to side with the CPC.
Could be that some suggested a Million$ insurance policy is what he deserved.
That is heresay and the fact that it is illegal and impossible for an insurer to issue such a policy when the beneficiary is known to be in final cancer stages suggests it is in fact loose talk.
Just heard Cadman*s daughter say on CBC that she has no idea of where this came from or how it came about.
First the Dion ding-dongs use the words of known liar Karl Schreiber to smear Harper through ex-PM Mulroney, and now this.
Time to tell Dion*s gang to stop using the house and our money for Harper dirt witch hunts. = TG
Posted by: TG at February 29, 2008 9:51 PMr.e. the Chuck Cadman thing. I see that pillar of reason, Mr. Mark Holland has voiced his belief "...that the Tories would be able to buy a life insurance policy..." Pinhead. Yeah, Mark. You guys go ahead and get the writ dropped for this. When it is proven to be a publicity stunt for a limited appeal book, and you can't find enough rags to wipe the egg off of your entitled Lieberal faces, you'll be sitting there with about 10 seats in the House saying "Geez! What did we do wrong?"
I wonder if Mr. Cadman, man of integrity that he was, would still have propped up that sorry excuse for a government that was PMPM's minority if he had known that in death, the party he chose to support would drag his family through the mud to try and score points in an unwinable game?
Posted by: Sober2ndThought at March 1, 2008 12:08 AMGee wow ... prove positive on Cadman. Call an election now dion!!!!! ... or at least do a few polls!!!! Dead man lies!!!!!
We need a few paranormal folks to expose PMSH!!!!!
I'll do it ... need a grant. Why wouldn't PMSH give me a lot of money if he wasn't innocent?????!!!!
Posted by: ural at March 1, 2008 12:39 AM