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Khalil Jeha threatens blogger.
(Apparently, this is a "she". I remain unconvinced.) Kathy Shaidle - "Is anyone else starting to reconsider the whole burqa thing?" | ![]() |
Whoooooo Boy ! Dat's NOT fair!
Posted by: OMMAG at February 25, 2008 8:32 PMSorry OMMAG, that's NOT a boy!
Posted by: Glen at February 25, 2008 8:38 PMShe? Someone has to be kidding...
Posted by: mark peters at February 25, 2008 8:44 PMThis is scary! What if he/she/it breeds someday?
The old proverb of it being better to be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt comes to mind.
Posted by: noddyrules at February 25, 2008 8:49 PMIs anyone else starting to reconsider the whole burqa thing?
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at February 25, 2008 8:52 PMWhat a cutie pie!
Posted by: Johannes at February 25, 2008 8:55 PMJust waiting for the bravado of "50 lebs in Deslisle"
Would that be a spinoff from Little Mosque On The Prairie....kind of like The Jeffersons from All In The Family.
Tonight, on a very special 50 Lebs in deslisle....young confused Khalil seeks advice from the travelling stranger, the mysterious "Warman", on forcing the local doctor into performing a labiaplasty.
Deport - Deport - Deport!!!!!!!
Posted by: Knight 99 at February 25, 2008 8:57 PMThe burqa comment is hysterical.
I've always thought that the official line that muslim men cannot control their urges to be a bit absurd.
They are saying: We can't be trusted to act civilized, so all women must be hidden from our eyes.
What would happen if muslim men were required to show self-control and actually respect women?
Posted by: Kyla at February 25, 2008 9:02 PMShe's from Lesbian, er, I mean Lebanon, right?
Posted by: Doug at February 25, 2008 9:03 PM"Is anyone else starting to reconsider the whole burqa thing?"
You read my mind. This is the one and only time in my life where I would recommend that a woman don a Burqa.
Knight 99: You can't deport a potential candidate for the leadership of NACSOW.
Posted by: Joe at February 25, 2008 9:05 PMUm, I think we're actually looking at a picture of Quebecoise Seperatiste.
Posted by: Doug at February 25, 2008 9:05 PMJoe, didn't you mean NAS-COW?
Posted by: Doug at February 25, 2008 9:07 PMIs anyone else starting to reconsider the whole burqa thing?
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at February 25, 2008 8:52 PM
Nope..I think you would good in a burhka /sarc off
If that is female...then I am >>> uhhhh .... I give up
Posted by: Justthinkin at February 25, 2008 9:11 PMNow that is one hot jihadi! Alas though, that ample girth must make getting back up from prayers a bit dodgey. At least there is that amount of exercise, for a total of five daily breaks from the feed bag.
Posted by: shaken at February 25, 2008 9:11 PMUm, I didn't say you're supposed to swallow the suicide explosive vest!
Posted by: Doug at February 25, 2008 9:13 PMFor some reason, that "50 lebs" thing made me think of the classic clown-car gag. Can't you just picture it? 50 dishrag-clad fanatics leaping out of a Honda Civic. Gesticulating wildly and screaming Allahu Ackbar. Then leaping back into the Civic and peeling out, while their car horn blares the Lebanese national anthem. Maybe I'm just weird, but now I really WANT to see that! :)
Posted by: Alex at February 25, 2008 9:13 PMA shinning product of our school system, confused over the spelling of female and male.
Posted by: Old & Grouchy at February 25, 2008 9:19 PMThere would be no 49 lebs in a car with Khalil Jeha. They would need an 18 wheeler tractor trailor just to haul her fatass.
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 25, 2008 9:26 PMKathy: you may not be in the very best position to be squawking about things covering faces, don't you think?
Posted by: John Daly at February 25, 2008 9:27 PMStephen's 'mysterious stranger' thing made me laugh out loud. Twice. Sums up the news of the last three months in one sentence.
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at February 25, 2008 9:30 PMChicken shawarma shortage in Calgary - coincidence?
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at February 25, 2008 9:32 PMNo need to worry about that breeding, it's definately one of the 72 virgins ... must have also grown up with a Taliban sponsored education ...
Posted by: Sheila at February 25, 2008 9:35 PMThe clock's ticking .... where are Kinsella and Lucy Warman on this one?
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at February 25, 2008 9:35 PMBecause his huge belly has kept him from seeing or touching his you know what, that confused boy thinks he is a girl...
or maybe it is a size issue...
A Girl Named Khalil...Where's Johnny Cash when you need him?
Posted by: batb at February 25, 2008 9:42 PMSeriously, I think that SOME (not all) of the comments I read here are mostly the stuff of schoolyard taunting. They diminish SDA.
If someone has threatened a member of the bloggosphere with physical violence, then the police need to be notified.
It is also good to show the true face of the enemies of free speech and Western thinking, and of mindless anti-semitism.
But this childish teasing based on the person's appearance really is the stuff of bully circles and will do nothing to promote the ideas and causes that we all feel are important.
I ask people to consider that what they are posting in this topic, as with all others, will be read by people whose support we would like to have. Many of the comments I have read today embarrass me on behalf of SDA.
Posted by: Lori at February 25, 2008 9:49 PMHas anybody seen this character and John Daly together? He seems rather agitated by the whole thread, as if it's personal...
Posted by: christopher rivers at February 25, 2008 9:49 PMShe/ he claims to be able to drive from Calgary to Olds in 45 minutes. Are there no environmental issues at stake with the amount of fuel it would take to pull that kind of load?? Carbon tax pleeeese.
Olds better stock up on groceries because they’re about to reach a famine status, otherwise call the WHO because a humanitarian crisis is about to unfold and food aid will be needed! At least we won’t need to send millions of taxpayer dollars to the Middle East to save radical Islam; we’ve managed to cut costs by bringing the problem to central Alberta.
Matt,
good question, I mean while we are adding up who is in which corner....i look forward to warren k putting him/her on the list.
Funny though, I never heard warren, the great defender and legal advisor to the CJC, going after the hatespeech found on that facebook site. Clearly boys room bathroom scribblings are more worthy....maybe because they are anonymous and nobody can be held responsible unlike facebook "musings". Or maybe because the bathroom graffitti wasn't targetting someone he disagreed with. What a pricipled guy.
Or maybe he was worried about "50 Lebs in The Beaches."
Posted by: Stephen at February 25, 2008 9:59 PM"But this childish teasing based on the person's appearance really is the stuff of bully circles and will do nothing to promote the ideas and causes that we all feel are important."
Ah, yes, here comes the PC brigade. Sorry ma'am. I apologize for any harm I may have caused. Please do not sic the Human Rights Commission on me. I promise to never again speak the truth if it may hurt someones feelings. Khalil Jeha is, in fact, the epitome of female beauty. Her gracious curves and luscious lips are the very fodder for every mans fantasies. Her physical charms are matched only by her cutting wit, and her clearly superior intellect. Oh, if only all females could be as appealing as Jeha!
Wait....that last sentence...I didn't mean to imply that any other female is any less appealing...I mean....aw, dammit, I think I hear the HRC knocking.....
Not exactly the face of an intelligent girl/boy/whatever.
Posted by: TJ at February 25, 2008 10:05 PMTime to dust off the old Mack-jacket and meet these people in a gravel pit...a little prairie justice goes a long way.
Posted by: Rednik at February 25, 2008 10:07 PMLori, I understand what you are saying, but it is important to communicate in terms that Khalil Jeha, the Jew-hater understands.
Do you think Khalil Jeha likes being centered out and mocked? She has no problems doing it to Ezra Levant on her Jew-hating facebook group.
It is important that Khalil Jeha, the big tough islamic leb realizes that we are not taking any shit off of her.
No more turning the other cheek to these little sawed off hate mongering islamic creeps, unless it is our ass cheek.
The police would do nothing, Khalil Jeha, is considered a special minority, and therefore above the laws that apply to the rest of us Canadians.
Lori is right. That Muslim man/women may be a sweat-hog, but we don't need to dwell on it.
Posted by: John West at February 25, 2008 10:08 PMAll I saw was a well executed paint-by-number forest scene. It was beautiful....all I saw was a well executed paint-by-number forest scene. It was beauti.....
Posted by: BL@KBIRD at February 25, 2008 10:10 PMPosted by: Lori >
I realize your sentiments are honorable………but look who your defending? I don’t mean the obvious lack of self worth this individual displays in their appearance, but the filthy words and mentality of a guest in our country who mocks everything that we are. Even with threats of bodily harm through the use of like-minded immigrant gangs who roll in our generosity like pigs at the trough.
Who has brought the ridicule upon themselves? Bully’s attack defenseless victims who have not asked for their attentions. So by that metric I believe you have it the other way around.
this is proof there is justification for arranged marriages.
Posted by: karamojaman at February 25, 2008 10:14 PM72 virgins concept not looking so sizzlin' hot right about now, eh? I know Joe Stalin said "quantity has a quality all its own", but... damn!
To all the shocked Jihadis who said W.T.F?!!!!! when they showed up for their virgins, I'd just like to say...
BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
Posted by: The Phantom at February 25, 2008 10:15 PMLori, most reasonable people have no patience with unwarrented bullying. However in the case of Khalil Jeha he, and anyone else who cares to put their name to a Facebook page aimed at a "piece of sh*t jew", is simply asking for it.
Had this person simply kept his mouth shut to begin with, and his hateful opinions to himself, then today he would be residing in blissful anonymity. Tollerance is a two way street.
Do you want to lose your freedom of speech? Then just remain silent in the face of those who threaten it.
Posted by: noddyrules at February 25, 2008 10:26 PMDeleted. All things considered, you'd be well advised to go back to using the nick "anon" -ED
Posted by: ezra at February 25, 2008 10:32 PMAnd reap the praise or suffer the shame that flows from each.
Posted by: Stephen at February 25, 2008 10:40 PM"she" is a disgrace to "her" people
Posted by: Brad at February 25, 2008 10:42 PMDo you want to lose your freedom of speech? Then just remain silent in the face of those who threaten it.
Hey, when he/she threatened me back in January I posted it!
http://marginalizedactiondinosaur.net/?p=2805
khalil | marginalizedactiondinosaur.net/?cat=6 | IP: 205.206.190.249http://marginalizedactiondinosaur.net/?cat=6
that link about facebook you h av my pic up and i want it off now you hav no right to show my picture and my name my name is khalil jeha and you remove that shit asap u dont hav my permission or any ones perssion to hav that up trust me my cousion is a lawyer and if you guys dont want a law suite then i think you should remove that
KHALIL JEHA Says:
February 18th, 2008 at 5:41 am eAND HOW DO U KNOW THAT I SEARCH FOR THE CALGARY POLICE ARE YOU WATCHING MY COMPUTER OR SOMTING GOOD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT I DONT GIVE A SHIT YOU GUYS JUST HAV NO LIFES MAKEING BLOGS ABOUT ME IT MAKES ME LAUGH KNOWING THAT PEOPLE ENJOY HEARING MY NAME AND SEARCH THE CALGARY POLICE FOR MY NAME AND LAST NAME TRUST ME YOU WILL GET LOTS OF RESULTS CAUSE WE ARE KNOWN IN CALGARY
In my personal opinion MR Harper made a mistake in raising immigration rates. Time to take some back to customer service. Or next time he musters the gang will he have 75 instead of 50?
My Children's future looks so grand, maybe we should emigrate to Lebanon.
Posted by: dinosaur at February 25, 2008 10:42 PMThat's a fat teenage boy's face.
There's nothing quite like a porcine anti semite munching on matzo balls and bagels while decrying the filthy jew.
Posted by: Howie Meeker at February 25, 2008 10:43 PMThere is another picture of 'her' on the Facebook page called 'jewish people are gay' with 'her' girlfriends.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21330113392
Also included is a group shot of the "Khalil Sopranos".
Posted by: JM at February 25, 2008 10:43 PMMy commitment to freedom of speech is unquestioned. I've been on top of the Levant story from day 1, donated multiple times, including today, and left multiple supportive comments in many of his threads. I posted so much about Levant in the Globe and Mail comments last month that I was blocked from posting after a week.
I was also among the first 10 people to sign the Free Dominion HRC petition.
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/a-free-dominion-against-the-hrcs.html
I trust everyone here has signed it. So feel free to end the suggestion that I am not for free speech.
But it doesn't matter if people like Khalil Jeha behave like pigs. This person is a nobody or a petty criminal. We are better than this type of person, and we can fight back without embarrassing ourselves.
Look at what Ezra Levant has done to bring things to the public eye, at how the world outside the bloggosphere has embraced his actions. It has been a huge victory for right-minded people, after years of erosion of our rights and principles by agenda-driven activists manipulating the sheep-like masses.
But his accomplishment was via the clarity and force of his argument, repeated again and again, to all who would hear. Not through petty insults which would have turned off most audiences.
If you are a person coming to SDA, don't "know the room", and read some of what's here, you might read this thread and be left wondering just what kind of people are advocating freedom of speech, and what they want it for. So they can make fat jokes?
WE ARE better than the liberal fascists.
We will win back this country because WE ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE. We are smarter. We are stronger. And our ideology is superior.
Drop the handwringing, Lori.
Posted by: Howie Meeker at February 25, 2008 10:50 PMI too welcome her/his right to post any obnoxious comment on the web.
I also wish to claim my right to point out that:
(i) s/he looks like a direct descendant of a mating of man & donkey;
(ii) s/he is completely illiterate in the common language of his/her residence; and,
(iii) s/he should definitely wear a burqua 24/7.
Sorry Lori, normally you might be right but this jerk is getting a taste of the contempt he/she expresses for others. It isn't nice but well deserved.
Posted by: Bob C at February 25, 2008 10:59 PMSure hope this is not a set up from WK to try and even the score with Kate. No, never mind he is not that bright.
Posted by: eyesopen at February 25, 2008 11:05 PMDid anyone give some thought this this crap may be some fool putting us on just for a lark? I find it so discusting it's hard to believe it's real. Yes the message is real, but the purpose goals quest?
Send it to Kinsella and ask if he saw it on a bathroom wall!
Very well. I'm not sure it really makes a difference, does it?
Posted by: anon at February 25, 2008 11:16 PMCaught between religiously thrown rocks and no dates.
Posted by: geeivebeenhad at February 25, 2008 11:28 PM21 years old..........Think of the health care costs we will be saddled with in a few short years after funding this individuals room and boared at a correctional and or mental facility!!
Posted by: Knight 99 at February 25, 2008 11:29 PMOr, rather:
"If you are a person coming to SDA, don't "know the room", and read some of what's here, you might read this thread and be left wondering just what kind of people are advocating freedom of speech, and what they want it for. So they can make fat jokes?"
Get a grip, Lori. It's not just "fat" jokes. It's "fat", "ugly", "stupid" and "lesbian" jokes. And when a fat, ugly, stupid lesbian anti-Semite sends threatening e-mails to bloggers, and posts anti-Semitic Facebook rants, then she (it?) becomes fair game for such repartee. If she don't like the heat, let her stay out of the kitchen.
Posted by: gordinkneehill at February 25, 2008 11:47 PMYa ya ya........my cousin is a lawyer......ya......sure......that threat is as old as the hills.
Looking at her (?) picture , I can see why she
(? it??)would want it down. The looks are enough to make any guy's you know what , turtle for good
Wow – not that I pick sides because I really don’t care, but with views such as this you can well imagine why Israel would fear a truckload of Khalil Jeha rolling up to their gates! Possibly the town of Olds needs to consider a wall of their own now?
Posted by: Knight 99 at February 25, 2008 11:51 PM=
Posted by: geeivebinhad at February 25, 2008 11:54 PMOh hi, resident skeptic here. I've looked at Dinosaur's original picture under 5x magnification. The picture above could be one of those people. On the other hand, it's not clear. I don't find any other Google images. I don't find any Google references at all except the original Facebook page, the wayn.com profile, and that surrounding the Dinosaur and Darcy discussions.
If someone set up a fake wayn.com profile, and then complained to Dinosaur (from a Calgary IP), and Darcy found the fake profile, then it is possible that the image above is not representative, and the fanatical postings to Dinosaur and Darcy's site are deliberately designed to exploit a Facebook fraud. Though I freely admit that I may be missing some critical datum that the rest of y'all know; is there any non-circumstantial evidence?
Posted by: Vitruvius at February 26, 2008 12:01 AMEven Ol' PBUH would blanch at the sight of "her"
Posted by: Tenebris at February 26, 2008 12:15 AM"I find it so discusting it's hard to believe it's real. "
Really? Check ouy Faithfreedom or jihadwatch and you'll see that chubby is regurgitating what many of these nuts say, including the horrible spelling. Check out ummah.com if you want to send a real chill down your spine.
Posted by: multirec at February 26, 2008 12:42 AMI think that we should leave this young man alone. It's apparent that we've caught him in between meals. Just a little cranky, that's all.
IMO he's showing off sitting in one chair.
I think this from the sidebar sums it up
http://dustmybroom.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2509&Itemid=29
she looks like a scoop of mashed potatoes being pushed through frost fence.
all covered in welts from being touched with 10 ft poles.
I respectfully disagree Cal2. It/he/she looks like a double water bed wrapped in a single sheet.
Argue with me if you like...
If it's on the internet, it must be true...therefore that must be a picture of Khalil Jeha.
Cue the "Haha."
Posted by: lberia at February 26, 2008 1:24 AMI think that, for once, Iberia is on track. That photo shows no feminine or even "butch" fem traits. Moreover, it's damned hard to imagine a wild-eyed Islamist woman wearing her hair like that or being photographed without a hijab.
I smell a hoax - at least witrh respect to the photo.
Posted by: Zog at February 26, 2008 2:12 AM"Calgary Jew hater Khalil Jeha threatens blogger."
Real Free Speechers never use the word threaten in this context. I expected to read an actual threat to person, not a "threat" to get a lawyer, which is not an actual threat. As a thought excercise, if I say the sun will rise tomorrow, am I threatening you with a sunrise? 'Course not.
The word threat has taken on a whole new meaning in this age and should be used sparingly and accurately.
You know the deal: women and homosexuals talk the filthiest trash and when you give it back to them they, without fail, claim to be threatened. Maybe you need to be a white heterosexual male under 40 to understand.
Anyway, it - fake threat claims - represents a restriction on free expression orders of magnitude more prevalent and egregious in day to day life than anything the HRCs have done.
Posted by: fdasfdas at February 26, 2008 2:38 AMkhalil is a male name
Posted by: rtm at February 26, 2008 3:37 AMHe's not fat, just big boned!
Posted by: Call me Infidel at February 26, 2008 4:35 AMLori, I don't feel it is my job to appease a Jew-hating, violence advocating, fat islamic leb. That is the job of the left.
My duty to my country is to ensure the Jew-hating, violence advocating, fat islamic lebs realize we are not taking shit off of them.
Khalil Jeha made the Jew-hating website, Khalil Jeha made the threats of violence against Darcy.
Are we suppose to be good little Canadians and understand where this fat fuckwit is coming from? I personally don't care where she is coming from, I would like her to be sent back from whence she came, and take the others like her, with her.
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 26, 2008 5:04 AMHoney pot said,
The police would do nothing, Khalil Jeha, is considered a special minority, and therefore above the laws that apply to the rest of us Canadians.
And I say, Khalil is above the law that applies to the rest of us heterosexual white male Canadians because she/he/it would be considered part of at least four "victim groups" ( maybe five ) she/he/it is,
An immigrant ( or children of )
A Muslim
A colored person
A gay or lesbian
( maybe ) a female
It is like Khalil is wearing five bullet proof vests on top of the other and we are shooting peas with a sling shot...
Want more of this?
Vote liberal!
Posted by: Friend of USA at February 26, 2008 6:15 AMCousins should not be permitted to marry! Ever!
No seriously folks, looking at some of the pictures on the haters sight I think the she is a he.
My, but what a lovely person. Tolerant, sophisticated, urbane, articulate, non-hateful and all that blah.
Rather like the folks over at Stormfront? I see no difference between Khalil and the Stormfront folks... they share the same quality of repulsive ugliness of personality. Oh, and I bet the Stormfronters also suffer from heartbreaking deficiencies in the looks department and have been mistaken for the opposite sex as well...
Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at February 26, 2008 6:53 AMHe/she/it is either overfed, possibly at our expense, or on steroids.
Posted by: Liz J at February 26, 2008 7:45 AMsaw this in the comments at Dust my Broom,
...
Credit card scam backfires on con
2008-02-26
...Calgarian Wissam Khalil Jeha pleaded guilty to illegally possessing a debit- and credit-card skimmer.
http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2008/02/26/4877132-sun.html
Posted by: Friend of USA at February 26, 2008 7:57 AM[Deleted for use of profanity. Clean it up or leave. ED]
Posted by: john begley at February 26, 2008 8:50 AMNow isn't that some coincidence, same name with "Wissam" added. Now all we need is a picture, unless it's wearing a Burka now, for religious reasons of course.
Posted by: Liz J at February 26, 2008 8:53 AMAs a lesbian, I vote that Khalil is male. I've seen some fat ugly dykes, that pic doesn't look female to me, even in that context.
I wonder why the police didn't wait until the skimmer was in place and try to catch a few criminals farther up the line, as well as get much more serious charges of fraud and theft. We know the spelling bee champ wasn't the top of that food chain.
Posted by: Kyla at February 26, 2008 9:02 AMi see on dust my broom she threatens to canter down to Olds with 50 Lebs and kick some serious ass...i can't believe Canada has any Lebs left.....i'm sure i read last year during the war on Israel we evacuated 50,000 Khalili
/Canadian (yes you read that right...50,000!)CITIZENS and very good citizens they are i'm sure...and every man Jack and women Jill of them a good LLLiberal/Canadian i'm sure(but i can't figure why they're not here in Canada building up this country....hmmmmmmm....perplexing indeed).....maybe we in Canada don't have enough Jews for them to indulge their metier ?
Deport this POS ji-FAT-i.
Multiculturalism is for losers.
with lips like that even the chrome on a trailer hitch wouldn't be safe.
Posted by: Fred at February 26, 2008 9:47 AM[Deleted. I didn't ask for your opinion. Either stop using profanity or cease commenting here. ED]
Posted by: john begley at February 26, 2008 9:53 AMHas anyone considered it may be a stock photo?
Posted by: Richard Ball at February 26, 2008 10:09 AMLori at 10:43 pm said: "If you are a person coming to SDA, don't "know the room", and read some of what's here, you might read this thread and be left wondering just what kind of people are advocating freedom of speech, and what they want it for. So they can make fat jokes?"
Yes Lori. Fat jokes are sacrosanct. I mean, if you can't make fat jokes and be a mean ba$tard on the freakin' internet, what's the point of having it?
I'm not "advocating" freedom of speech, incidentally. I'm demanding it. I'm paying money to get it. I'm going to campaign and kick asses until it is mine once more.
Because why?
Because I think the very idea of getting 72 virgins in heaven if you die a martyr (aka suicide bomber) is dangerously stupid.
Because I think global warming is a hoax.
Because I think gun control is even more dangerously stupid than the 72 virgins thing.
Because I think welfare is a destroyer of life.
Because it used to be my right to say fat jokes and lawyer jokes and tasteless Jewish jokes and blond jokes, and now it ISN'T.
You know what Lori? Free speech is rude sometimes.
Free speech includes that revolting tub of lard saying all that disgusting crap about Ezra and Jews. (If in fact that is not a picture of the actual person who said all that disgusting crap, my apologies kid. But go on a diet and get a haircut anyway, you look like a dork! And stop breathing through your mouth.)
Free speech includes us mocking the hell out of "Khalil Jeha" whether he/she/it is an actual person moron enough to use their own name, or is actually good ol' Lucy W in Muslim drag trolling for an HRC complaint 'cause Lucy wants a pool in the backyard.
I believe some politically unfashionable sh1t Lori. I'd like to have the right to say it without having to worry about the Speech Police kicking down my front door at 3 AM. If it means I have to put up with the likes of Ernst Zundel and "Khalil Jehan", not to mention Robert "F- the Jews" McClelland, I consider that a very small price to pay.
Posted by: The Phantom at February 26, 2008 10:35 AMThe age is apparently wrong 25 vs 21
assumes truth telling though.
Posted by: Stephen at February 26, 2008 10:37 AMWe must be having a slow news day when some culturally conffuded and sexually frustrated teen's rant lights up the Blogosphere.
Ans as long as you sak, Kathy, yes!..there IS a case for the Burka...although a paper bag is more Canadian ;-)
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 26, 2008 10:40 AMA paper bag? Is she a Leafs fan too!!
Posted by: cal2 at February 26, 2008 10:53 AMWL, we are talking two bags here. "Her's" might rip, eh?
Posted by: The Phantom at February 26, 2008 10:58 AMPhantom, I believe most of the same things you believe.
A question I want to ask you, though, is how do you view the role of SDA, and the conservative blogosphere in general.
1) It is a place for people frustrated with the current social and political order to come and vent to others who feel the same way?
2) It is a place from which real societal change can be effected through the meeting of like minds, sharing of information, and development of strategies for advancing the common-sense right of centre ideals that people here have.
If you feel that SDA is simply option 1, then rant away. But if you feel that option 2 is true in whole or in part, then do you think that the various rants we have seen on this thread are helpful, counterproductive, or neither? I believe them to be counterproductive.
If and until we can convince a majority of voting Canadians that the left-lib-multi-culti-nanny-state-victim-culture experiment is an abymsmal failure, progress cannot be made. We will not accomplish this with angry and petty rants directed at pathetic societal failures.
Posted by: Lori at February 26, 2008 11:04 AMHi Lori,
I always enjoy your posts and also the Phantom's.
I think that the purpose of SDA is whatever Kate wants it to be.
And as she is editor, she is able to delete anything she wishes to.
My view is that it is not our province as commenters to decide issues which are Kate's to determine.
It doesn't appear that she has chosen to delete most of the comments on this thread, so I think we have to conclude that she feels OK about it.
Posted by: Greg in Dallas at February 26, 2008 11:43 AMLori,
SDA is both of the things you list. So what! It reflects the various moods and reactions people have about a given topic or item. It is honesty. Perhaps for you, 'the honesty's too much' (pun yes)
Phantom,
I have never stopped telling blonde jokes, fat jokes, ethnic jokes etc. because they are funny and I believe most people can and do laugh at themselves.
I speak freely when ever I want to and where ever I want to. I don't just demand the right to speak freely I just do it. I am not waiting for anyone to tell me when it's okay.
That is how is should be, just say whatever the f**k you want and let the chips fall where they may. I don't suggest being deliberately overly rude or tasteless, but don't allow yourself to feel controlled. A joke is a joke, let's hear it.
I don't worry about people who will object to my speaking freely, those are people I don't want for friends, co workers, employers or employees.
I smoke cigars and when people walk by me with a grand look of disapproval on their faces, I make an effort to blow as much smoke as possible in their direction.
We claim to be a tolerant society. Let start proving it. Try a little live and let live.
Ezra said we must 'denormalize' the HRC, I suggest that we must also denormalize political correctness and everything else that prevents us from living our lives freely.
Who was that said.
"FREEDOM MUST BE TAKEN, IT IS NEVER GIVEN"
Posted by: John West at February 26, 2008 11:49 AMJohn,
Someone else is likely to jump all over you in a second or two here, but I'd like to say something before they do:
No. The reason for being for blogs is not to solicit opinion.
It is to express opinion.
A subtle - you understand - but important difference.
So think of it like being in someone's house John. If you say something the owner of the house objects to, they are well within their rights to toss you out, and it's got nothing to do with free speech.
Posted by: sean357 at February 26, 2008 11:51 AMAbove comment meant for john begley.
Posted by: sean357 at February 26, 2008 11:55 AMMy belief is that blogs serve the purpose of public discourse on a variety of issues. Politics is a passion of mine, therefore SDA is a daily read for me. Unfortunately SDA has more than it's fair share of haters. Fortunately like me a lot of them hate the disease of liberalism.
If I want to read truly idiotic comments the Globe and Mail provides the most fodder.
Mr. Kinsella is dead wrong when he attacks kate for being racist. I find most of her comments based on race to be realistic rahter than idealistic.
"I smoke cigars and when people walk by me with a grand look of disapproval on their faces, I make an effort to blow as much smoke as possible in their direction." - John West
That's pretty assaultive. It would be like me spitting in the faces of people that object to me chewing tobacco.
Frankly, if you blew smoke at me, I'd put your cigar out on your forehead.
You're ok with that though. Right? Just me freely expressing myself.
Posted by: sean357 at February 26, 2008 11:59 AMSean,
Be tolerant about my smoking my cigar on the public streets and I won't blow smoke at you. You missed that part.
Posted by: John West at February 26, 2008 12:10 PMAnd Sean,
You would never, ever be able to put a cigar out on my forehead. Believe it!
Posted by: John West at February 26, 2008 12:13 PMLori, I view SDA as Kate's private blog, upon which she daily does whatever the hell she likes. Kate isn't the Official Voice of Conservatism or any other damn thing, she's a spray painter with a really nice bike and a way with words. Long may it reign.
She tolerates my intemperate ravings, which I really appreciate. Few do.
Social change driven by the Internet? Not a freakin' chance. Social change is driven mostly by where you spend your money, maybe a little bit by how you vote. The internet is where you -read- about social change.
However Lori, should I feel moved to post on YOUR blog, I'll follow the rules. I'll have to, won't I?
Posted by: The Phantom at February 26, 2008 12:42 PM87 Carrera .
Wow , that's all I gotta say.
I mean really, what else is there to say
An 87 Carrera.
Warren didn't stand a chance against you John.
An 87 Carrera!
Thanks you have a nice day too!
Posted by: richfisher at February 26, 2008 12:48 PMWell, with any luck at all, we've seen the last of John Begley.
Posted by: BCer at February 26, 2008 12:57 PM"Social change driven by the Internet? Not a freakin' chance. Social change is driven mostly by where you spend your money, maybe a little bit by how you vote. The internet is where you -read- about social change."
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Well, there we have to disagree. Ezra Levant has effected a societal change with his Internet activity. It remains to be seen how wide ranging and lasting it will be, but it is the beginnings of something anyway.
Opinion that becomes "widely accepted" all has to begin somewhere, and these days that somewhere is the Internet as much as anywhere else.
Politicians and their flunkees browse these blogs to get a pulse on what's out there.
If the blogosphere was so irrelevant, why do you think people people like Cherniak and Kinsella spend so much time and effort pushing their agenda there?
Every revolution in history had an intellectual basis, with "intelligentsia" that discussed core issues for years, or even decades, prior to the revolution becoming mainstream. These days, the "intelligentsia" is online and blogging as much as anywhere else.
The political leaders of tomorrow are the blog readers of today.
Posted by: Lori at February 26, 2008 1:05 PM"You would never, ever be able to put a cigar out on my forehead."
You'd sound a lot more threatening without that phallic shaped object in your mouth.
I beg to differ, Ma'am. To the extent Ezra has changed anything it is by paying money to go through the idiot HRC process. Paying that money has forced his opponent to back down. Paying that money had got him a beauty video clip on U-Tube.
The Blogosphere is where we -read- about what Ezra has been doing. With his money.
I didn't say the web is irrelevant, I said it doesn't drive social change. Newspapers don't either. You read about what's happening, or in the case of the papers what they want you to think is happening.
I think Cherniak and Kinsella spend so much time on the web because no MSM outlet will have them, and because they have no lives.
Incidentally, we don't want a revolution. Revolutions are for jerks whose ideas are so bad nobody will do what they say without a gun to their head. What we want is to roll back the -excesses- of the modern Liberal weenie movement.
Equal rights for women is a good thing. More rights for women and less for men, that's not so good. Free speech is good. Free speech unless you say something Lucy Warman doesn't like, not so good.
Posted by: The Phantom at February 26, 2008 2:46 PMSheesh. Racist muslims really DO bring out the dark side of people.
However I am willing to bet that she couldn't find 50 Leb(anese) to side with her, to begin with. Many Lebs are Christian. And a lot more intelligent. And better looking.
Posted by: otter at February 26, 2008 2:57 PMPhantom, I'd regard getting rid of the nanny-state multiculti socialism that now pervades the western world to be a revolution.
A country run according to principles of personal responsibility, self-sufficiency, and individual freedoms that cannot be trumped by the whims of self-proclaimed victims, would be nothing less than a revolution from what we have turned ourselves into during the past century.
In my opinion, if that rebirth ever happens to any extent (call me insanely optimist) the conservative bloggers here and abroad will be an important part of it.
I cannot be as cynical as you. I think ideas matter, not just money.
Posted by: Lori at February 26, 2008 3:40 PMI agree with you Lori. The blogosphere is our Gutenberg press.
Posted by: shaken at February 26, 2008 4:24 PMFor what it is worth,
The purpose of Blogs...
In my opinion blogs on the right serve a different purpose than blogs on the left,
on most right wing blogs we can learn about what the MSM is trying to hide from us,
We get the complete story warts and all, we get real information instead of propaganda.
We are mostly fact driven.
And last but not least, we expose the left and their media for what they are.
While most left wing blogs simply do the same as the MSM only with more anger and with more vulgar language,
They distort, take out of context, blow out of proportion and fabricate stories about the right to bash it and to try to hide anything we have managed to expose about them,
and they turn everything into pro-liberal anti-right propaganda.
Almost every story on left wing blogs is incomplete because only what is useful to them has been retained.
No matter how many times a story has been debunked by the right, on left wing blogs the it is repeated until it gets a second life as a "truth".
They throw a lot of ridiculous accusations and mostly rely on emotions to convince readers.
In short,
right wing blogs tell the truth about the left while left wing blogs tell lies about the right.
For what it’s worth x 2 =
Blogs are the reflection of whatever the blog administrator wishes to produce or edit.
The purpose the blog serves is whatever intent the individual poster wishes to frame or like-minded posters wish to rally.
Agenda – boredom relief – comedy – sarcasm. Political discontent, religious discontent, personal discontent.
The above thread proves the multiple intents of the posters, from having a laugh to ease Monday evening doldrums to political stances against one agenda or the other.
In the end it’s a collage of thoughts and ideas that you can either turn on or switch off………
For what it's worth - I generally ignore the comments threads. These are your submissions, not mine and I tend to give people a lot of rope. If you want to know what I think, read the front page. Otherwise, respect the rules and I'm happy.
Posted by: Kate at February 26, 2008 6:08 PMI'm not sure what I'd like more, 5 minutes with this person or 5 minutes with the plonker at our seriously flawed immigration department that let this Lebo-hippo into Canada...
Posted by: Michael Ross at February 26, 2008 7:56 PMLori
You think these feces-flinging orangutangs have interest in doing anything but expressing their anger and rage at all the liberals with their 'fancy book-learnin' and their belief in science and their tolerance of other peoples' colours and beliefs?
Really?
Posted by: volik at February 26, 2008 8:37 PMUnintended Irony Alert:
Big John West says:
"That's how it should be, just say whatever the f**k you want and let the chips fall where they may."
Haw! Haw!
Posted by: volik at February 26, 2008 8:43 PMVolik, sorry to disappoint you, but my experience has been that the quality of thought, debate, and intellect is VASTLY superior in the right wing blogs and among right wing thinkers than on the left. Mindless rabid foaming-at-the-mouth hatred an bile are much more a staple of Liberal / left wing blogs.
The left-wingers are much more likely to be intellectually lazy and unable to logically defend their dogma. They seem to be unburdened by life experience or recognition of the reality of human nature. Nearly all are simply indoctrinated from birth by touchy-feely BS that they learned from their teachers and professors. Most have long since lost the ability to truly think about a problem.
True conservatives have been the underdogs in academic circles and in politics for a long time, and so they have had to rise to a higher standard of thought, debate, and evidence-based thinking.
Survival of the fittest. Most left wingers are not intellectually fit to survive.
No, Lori.
There are two things on this blog I've never seen in such profusion elsewhere.
1) racism.
2) ad hominems sputtered as in a fit of Tourette's everytime a blogger tries to counter an argument. Stuff like "retard" "idiot" "fool", etc., etc.
Even your post is 75% derogatory cliches about liberals, the type that are repeated here over and over - likely you folks lull yourselves to sleep everynight repeating them.
I mean, I know you guys are intellectually insecure, and calling other people the same names you were called by your parents might seem empowering for you.
But really, is that all there is to your ideology? A steady whining and bitching about what 'they' have done to you?
Then we can agree to disagree. Cheers.
Posted by: Lori at February 26, 2008 9:21 PMSee how politeness has gotten you sooo far with dipshit Volik Lori?
There is no debating or discussing anything with his ilk, the thing is a left wing freak.
Nah. Politeness is its own reward. I don't need validation from cursing at leftards.
Oops.
Posted by: Lori at February 26, 2008 9:47 PMWhatever Lori, you can respond to leftards like vomit...er volik the way that you feel, I'll keep antagonizing it's type because I don't believe that there's anything that will change it's mind. Policies be damned, I'm a Liberal dammit!
Posted by: multirec at February 26, 2008 10:12 PMLori, if we couldn't laugh at people like Jehad, what's the reason for people like Jehad to exist?
Posted by: Shere Khan at February 26, 2008 10:41 PMOne of the reasons that the left is so screwed up is that they are completely out of ideas.
On the conservative side we still believe in The Wealth of Nations, by Adam Smith. We still believe in Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, and Milton Friedman. The classical school of economics still pretty much underpins our view.
On the other hand, Marxism simply didn't pan out, despite all the wrangling about it. Of course it became a very odious system to us because of our confrontation with Eastern Bloc Communism. However, Marxism has fallen apart by virtue of its own flaws irrespective of the lack of success of the Soviet Union.
For example, for today the bag boy down at the grocery store very possibly has a pension plan with money allocated to the S&P 500 along with various international bond and mutual funds.
Marx discussed a world in which capital was held in very few hands. And those capitalists had huge control. But today almost everybody working for a living is a capitalist by virtue of automatic pension plans, various investments in the financial markets... If you can stay at the same job for a few years you're already a mini-capitalist.
In the US the old Communist movement fell apart when Kruschev finally admitted the fact of the Stalin purges. This simply cut the heart out of the Communist movement.
So upon the ashes of the Old Left, the New Left arose. The New Left, backed by Soviet money, controlled radical student body politics and other radicals in the United States.
As you know, Marx said that capitalism would someday run its course, and then money would no longer be a factor and the communist system would have come to fruition.
He went on to say that in case you didn't have time to wait for this to occur before the sun went out, the program could be pushed through by violent revolution.
The New Left was committed to achieving communist goals through violent revolution. The problem for them was that the entire program came to a screeching halt as soon as the US government killed the military draft. As soon as your average college radical realized that he was no longer going to be forced to face a shooting enemy, he very quickly dropped his revolutionary posture, and there went the movement.
So today the leftists in the American government had their origin mainly in some derivative of radical student body politics.
But as I said earlier, the problem is that the old Marxist idea no longer has viability, for a number of reasons I could mention.
If you go back a few years, the Democratic Party in the United States was not the nutty, Cindy-Sheehan group that exists today.
John Kennedy, for example, along with his predecessors like Adlai Stevenson, believed that government could benevolently affect social problems, but at the same time was a 'cold warrior' like other men of his generation.
Having served himself, he was not afraid to back Russia down during the days of the Cuban missile crisis, despite the screams of outrage from people like Bertrand Russell. He understood free market economics, and intentionally lowered taxes to return more money to the Treasury with his "rising tide lifts all boats" speech.
When George Bush first came into the presidency, the first person he asked to be Secretary of Defense was a Democrat, former Georgia Senator Sam Nunn. Simply because Sam Nunn was a part of the older coterie of senators were were still sane despite the fact they were Democrats.
So the upshot is that these crazy leftists and the leftists in government today are derivative of the 1960s student body radical politics rather than an older, saner system. And what has taken the place of the failed system of Marxism is simply a bunch of inflated, misguided insanities.
And this at least is how it came to pass that all these leftists are so crazy and so shrill.
Posted by: Greg in Dallas at February 26, 2008 10:57 PMAs one comic put it "I'm not trying to say she(?) is fat but when she walks her butt looks like two ten pound beavers in a five pound sack engaging in fisticuffs".
Posted by: Joe at February 26, 2008 11:09 PMJohn in Dallas ... I don;t know how things went from taking up the public mocking of that moron in Calgary to discussions of the evolution of America's leftards.... BUT I do like what you have to say about it.
Particularly the mention of my long lost cousin Berty Russell.
Bert was as thorough a lefty loon as you could find back in the 50's and 60's... brilliant logician who had not a clue of how to apply his own logic in the real world! I quote Bertrand on my Blog header.....
There's also the example of Numb Nutz Chomsky who's Manufacturing consent was brilliant. Even if he had the roles of the Conservative establishment and the leftist activists completely ass backward in his essay! He did have the process thoroughly defined.
Cheers!
Posted by: OMMAG at February 26, 2008 11:16 PMBlogs are the epitome of free speech ... but they exist to vent and rant, amuse and sometimes educate and inform. At least that's how I've always understood this one, Kate's Intro at the top left says
"Until this moment
I have been forced
to listen while media
and politicians alike
have told me
"what Canadians think".
In all that time they
never once asked.
This is just the voice
of an ordinary Canadian
yelling back at the radio -
"You don't speak for me."
We speak, and 90% of the time we're speaking to like minded souls. Ego the humor in this thread. I'm not the only person that laughs at the original illiteracy of Khalil Jeha, or the subsequent comments here ... S/he started the ball rolling and should have realized s/he was going to get it back worse. Perhaps s/he doesn't understand that part.
Posted by: Sheila at February 26, 2008 11:31 PMI thought we agreed to disagree.
But Lori had to slip in another "leftard".
Then came more posts, with the same old whining about liberals,and more use of the term "leftard".
You guys really don't have anything else to say!
You come and whine and bitch about environmentalists and liberals and what they're doing to you. How ineffectual you all are.
Then there's all the racist crap: proof positive of small minds spuriously trying to claim superiority.
And another variation on the same phenomenon: the term "leftards".
A tragic affliction visited on millions of people is to you guys a term of derision for those who disagree with you.
Oh, yeah, they must be "retarded" to disagree with you Einsteins, huh? Especially with all your racism and such.
Posted by: volik at February 27, 2008 1:07 AMAre you not aware that Liberalism is a mental disorder? All the evidence you require is here:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56494
Anyway, your responses still haven't answered my question.
Posted by: Shere Khan at February 27, 2008 9:01 AMDear Volik,
If you prefer we we could us a liberal term for you such as "intellectually challenged" or "developmentally delayed" or possibly just "special"! Are you at peace now?
volic, I second what Lori said. And I'd like to add that you're not only a f-ing retard, you're the intellectual brother of that sorry racist object we've been mocking.
Unlike Lori I see no reason not to fire a broadside on the likes of Kahlil Jeha and your sorry self. Go back to the rabble where they enjoy your sort of person.
Posted by: The Phantom at February 27, 2008 2:33 PMSo much for free speech on this site.
Unless your're a knuckle-dragging mouth-breathing redneck "retard!"-slurring racist.
Right, snaggle-tooth?
Posted by: volik at February 28, 2008 11:39 AM "So much for free speech on this site".
You're seeing free speech, you liberal tool, but I'm not surprised that you don't recognize it. Note to Khalil: Have a salad. Do some exercise, maybe a trip to the old country, you know, south Beirut. Some runnin' and jumpin' maybe? Dodgin' Israeli missiles? I'll buy the ticket.