Lovely. And our new budget in B.C. today - we are getting a carbon tax of 2.5 cents/litre on gas starting in July, incrementally rising to 7 cents/litre by 2012. Ridiculous kool-aid drinking politicians...trouble is, there are no true conservatives left in the country to vote for anymore. Especially in B.C.

This carbon tax is supposed to be revenue-neutral. So the BC gov't will refund every man, woman and child $100 a head this summer. Even more if you are low income. So what is the point of this anyway?

On Bill Good's talk show this a.m., one caller said the gov't should not allow people to drive SUV's because they are "not necessary". Who does all of this hurt? Moms and dads with big vehicles hauling kids around. Families!

Stupid stupid politicians and the people who fall for this crap.

As someone said earlier on SDA,

When it's hot, it's global warming.

When it's cold, it's weather.

Sounds like it's time to bring the joys of Paris, circa 1789 to Victoria, BC. Whenever the "kings" whether elected or by divine right get too big for their britches, a bit of of the guillotine goes a long way

The only reason mankind searches for unknown life on Earth is for reasons related to climate change...

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/50064.html

Good God. Feeding deer? Why not feed cockroaches? Deer are like parasites - they'll manage without human intervention!

RG

Cool!

Better yet, send the deer to China, they lost thousands of livestock in the recent cold, along with their winter crops.

I fail to understand how our livestock survive in -40 weather, but they can't in China. Can someone explain that to me?

Does this mean we can begin to reverse the dumping of poisons in our water and tons of carbon and pollutants into the air we breath?

A long shot. = TG

Global warming can also result in global cooling, alright? If you people don't even get that, then what's the point? See what I mean? Okay?

Gordon Campbell's B.C. Liberals just lost my vote in the next election. I won't be giving it to the N.D.P. or greens either. Think I'll just sit this one out.

sorry Libby, I don't GET IT

Libby, Libby, Libby, Don't blow a gasket. I see what you mean. Black is white, up is down, warming is cooling, young is old, and the list goes on. Did I get it right Libby old girl?

Weather tax ?

Sure Libby, just keep thinking the dumb neo-Cons don't understand the AGW theories.

I'm going to observe that the entire decrease in pollution output from Europe and North America from the last twenty gets wiped out by a single year's output from the Chicoms.

If AGW is real as you think it is, you better start sharpening up some nukes to take care of the China problem.

Lucky for me I think its a total scam. I can focus on the Chicom output of actual poisons, which is friggin' unbelievable, plus they have a bad habit of killing people over nothing. Beijing Olympics my ass.

i still say jail for anyone that doesn't think and talk like me.

and stephi -- there's an election coming so you'd better shove your head up your dog's a** and start barking the right tune or it's club fed for you.

robert-Me too.

The science on global warming is far from settled.

A carbon tax is nothing more than a cash grab; count my vote out next time around.

List of BCLP MLAS.

Why was the term "Global Warming" dropped in favour of "Climate Change"? Because it was apparent the story wasn't holding together and was becoming hard to defend. Climate Change can mean anything - that's one reason to poit to this is say it is a scam.

Suzuki and ilk are the snakeoil salesman selling the charade to the ignorant like Libby. This has been going on for centuries.

Along with weak opportunistic political leadership and a corrupt MSM, they present a convincing case to someone not paying attention. A lot of people are ignorant by choice, are just lazy and /or don't care. These people get polled.

Robert and Bernie,

It*s a cute cash rotation by a very attractive finance gal. It comes around to us after a nice residue sticks with government.

The part that sticks is needed for Olympic Games over runs. See, all is well.

Vote for Gordie and the conservatives who carry the label L i b e r a l ... only letters, y*know. = TG

Very interesting and entertaining.

The good ship global warming is a big boat to sink. It will take a long time to reverse those propellers. Long after the science is in and leaning to the more sensible idea the we are just experiencing natural phenomena, there will be large numbers who remain true to their beliefs.

We will have to wait for them all to die off to be rid of them.

Who was it that said "It's a fool who never changes his mind" ?

This applies so well to the fools on the Left who still insist that global warming is our fault and is going to kill us while telling us that socialism is the answer.

How obtuse is that?

I suspect that it will take a six foot snowfall directly on Wikkiki beach for these asshat GW jealots to give their heads a shake and realize that Suzuki and Gore are frauds.

Global warming caused the last ice age, 12,000 years ago. Is it all making sense to you now!!

The earth is warmer now than it has ever been so the dinasours were a fairy tale.

Libby ,you rock. You have put the crisis right into a nutshell and thrown a dagger in the heart of the skeptics.The only way to make these knuckle-dragging,mouth breathing,harpies understand the crisis of our times is through your pure logic. Global cooling leads to global warming,simple enough. So,pull out your checkbooks,boyos, and write a check to China . Sleep the sleep of the self-righteous.It is people like Libby and myself that understand the world,you nazi bitches,I am not too fattt.

#1 Soccermom, isn't it curious how every government solution to a problem is a tax or levy. It'll be as revenue neutral as the GST!

All those headlines make me feel warm all over. Especially hot under the collar.

#1 another point, whenever someone says "ban it, as it isn't necessary" ASk tehm two questions:

1. If it isn't necessary, then why the need to ban it.

2. Life itself isn't "necessary", rather pleasant but not "necessary". So, where to stop?

Global warming can also result in global cooling, alright? If you people don't even get that.......

Whoo hoo, now why would anyone not get that obvious cooling=warming correlation?

Libby, do yourself a favor, repeat the 7th grade, the basic science or logic skills part, or maybe you did over and over again. Wow.

what's truly unbelievable is that Gore's insane little movie - an Inconvenient Truth - is required viewing in most Canadian high schools.... "global warming" is the new communism

Now everyone take a deep breath and watch that scaremonger algore
present his nobel prize winning can of bullsh** "An Inconvenient Truth".

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2078944470709189270

See the hype! Relish the hypocrisy! Watch Michael Moore manipulate
algore's lips with his hand up his arse! Wonder at the idiocy of it all!!

Incredible how the MSM has cowed so many
into actually believing the sorry pap fed
to them by the lackeys of the left.

Oh and one more thing re our so-called "Green Budget" in B.C.: the Finance Minister is Carole Taylor, former Chairman of the CBC. Hmmmmmm. She's obviously drunk on the Kool-aid. What a good Liberal.

An interesting video - a Canadian university professor defines socialism for Bob Rae in 1990.

this guy must have been real popular.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pFC5OYU4Lyo

link from Captain Capitalism

mike

Think how much more expensive it is going to be to conquer global warming and global cooling at the same time.

I agree with other posters here, the Campbell government carbon tax is nothing but a tax grab, and one hell of an unfair tax grab too.

I'm so utterly disappointed in the Campbell Liberals.

Somebody save us for these idiotic policies.

""global warming" is the new communism" . . . this is SOOOO true. Someone should do tee shirts . . .bumper stickers . . . whatever. Word needs to get out because too many people aren't paying attention.

Think how much more expensive it is going to be to conquer global warming and global cooling at the same time.
Posted by: Richard Ball

And why we are paying more than a penny to research it when the science is decided.

Robert...

As a fellow BC'er I'm with you on sitting out the next election, or vote for some fringe party as a form of protest.
Wild Rose Party BC anyone? Anybody?
All of us will pay tribute to the church of the Goracle.

Ditto Rednik.

Next provincial election is May 12th, 2009.

Bring it on I say. I'm sick of the Liberals and I only hope there is some reasonably sane place I can park my vote (sure ain't voting NDP).

If there's no choice available I'll spoil my ballot.

Every morning I go out to the garage and start up my car and my wife's at the same time. Even though they have been plugged in all night, I still let them idle for 20 to 30 minutes before I get into my car to go to work. During this time my wife and I have a nice bowl of cereal while my big V8, her 6 cylinder and our seat warmers makes the baronial and heavy cars (15 mpg of late) all nice and toasty inside.

Our routes to work follows along in their entirety a bus route. A bus can easily take us to work, but no, we purposefully sacrifice the dollars. Oh yeah, lest I forget, I set the temperature of the house to +23 Celsius and I use my fireplace as often as I can, leaving the window next to it open whenever it's worth while. When I get to my shop, I start up my Freightliner and let it run until it too gets all toasty and warm. An hour of idling during the working day is nothing, I never shut it off. No way that I'll do that because, God save us, I am on a mission.

Yes, you are thinking, he's spending a lot of coin unnecessarily, but you see I am prepared to sacrifice and happily pay for my part to save the planet. I hope we can all pitch in somehow and make the lives of future Canadians much more pleasant than what we experience 6 months of the year right now. Thank you for your time.

I think that the UN should organize another climate change conference to discuss global cooling. How about Tahiti?

"Global warming can also result in global cooling"

Here we go again, this climate change argument. It's our fault no matter what happens. Climate change truly is the defining issue of our time, and how governments deal with climate change truly is going to be a monumental struggle. But unfortunately, the reasons why it is the defining issue of our time has not a darn thing to do with climate. I'll give credit to Bill Clinton's campaign of '92 for this line: "Its the economy stupid!"

Gaia help us if politicians start enacting policy to deal with this.

How about Winnipeg?

I second Winterpeg.

It's -32C on Golden Boy's privates as I type,
according to the Weatherchannel.

Check out Licia Corbella`s column in todays Vancouver Sun....she hands Susuki his ass!

...."when CO2 levels were 16 times higher than they are today, Earth was covered in ice".

Hunter -- cause they have girly deer in China.
In the meantime, B.C. politics suck. The NDP ruin every thing they touch (fast ferries, say no more) yet the B.C. Liberals foist this upon us. They really don't know who their father is. Bastards. I am not voting Green, so like a previous poster here, I think I am sitting the next election out.

From the News Release:

QUOTE:

Effective July 1, 2008, subject to approval by the legislature, British Columbia will introduce a fully revenue-neutral carbon tax with built in protection for lower income British Columbians. The tax will begin at a low rate and increase gradually to give individuals and businesses time to adjust. It will apply to virtually all fossil fuels, including gasoline, diesel, natural gas, coal, propane, and home heating fuel – making it among the broadest and most comprehensive in the world.

ENDQUOTE:

So it seems the idea is to reduce or stop the burning of 'fossil' fuels to reduce the amount of CO2 returning to the atmosphere.

Think about it. How were these 'fossil' fuels created in the first place?

Answer: fossil fuel came from fossils.

And where did fossils come from?

Answer: Plant and animal life from long long ago.

And what is an essential engredient that is needed to grow these 'fossil' of long long ago?

Answer: CO2 from the atmosphere.

Recyle, reduce, reuse

From the News Release:

QUOTE:

Effective July 1, 2008, subject to approval by the legislature, British Columbia will introduce a fully revenue-neutral carbon tax with built in protection for lower income British Columbians. The tax will begin at a low rate and increase gradually to give individuals and businesses time to adjust. It will apply to virtually all fossil fuels, including gasoline, diesel, natural gas, coal, propane, and home heating fuel – making it among the broadest and most comprehensive in the world.

ENDQUOTE:

So it seems the idea is to reduce or stop the burning of 'fossil' fuels to reduce the amount of CO2 returning to the atmosphere.

Think about it. How were these 'fossil' fuels created in the first place?

Answer: fossil fuel came from fossils.

And where did fossils come from?

Answer: Plant and animal life from long long ago.

And what is an essential engredient that is needed to grow these 'fossil' of long long ago?

Answer: CO2 from the atmosphere.

Recyle, reduce, reuse

libby and mjh:

They claim that global warming will cause global cooling... but they give Specifics. A must happen before B happens, and so forth.

Those specifics are NOT being met. So either the planet is as dumb as us neocons, or...

More weird amonalys?
...-

Venice high and dry

A boat lies immobile on mud in a Venice canal after sea levels plunged to a 14-year low on February 19, 2008. The Centro Maree, whose forecasts are vital for organising transport in Venice, said a high-pressure system set off a 'Code White' alert that signals low sea levels. Canals slipped on Monday to 80 centimetres below average sea level, the lowest since 1994.
http://tinyurl.com/ywbu7a

someday we are going to take our country and the world back.

B.C. political update;
Apparently there is a B.C. Conservative party.
Terry O'neil outlines party leader Wilf Hanni's take on the whole carbon tax scam at the Western Standard site. It sounds reasonably inteligent.
I hope this party isn't just some right wing version of moonbats.

B.C. political update;
Apparently there is a B.C. Conservative party.
Terry O'neil outlines party leader Wilf Hanni's take on the whole carbon tax scam at the Western Standard site. It sounds reasonably inteligent.
I hope this party isn't just some right wing version of moonbats.

I am a bit of a cynic, but come October, just before the US elections, I expect winter will have been forgotten and the NOAA or some 'environmental' group will send out a press release claiming something like: 2008 on the way to becoming one of the warmest years in 'recorded history' and/or the ozone hole is increasing at an 'alarming' rate (i.e. vote Obama to save the world).

The budget in B.C. has to pass in the legislature before it becomes law. This gives the opportunity for debate on the issue. If it passes then we finally will have the opportunity to initiate a class action lawsuit against the government. Given that the "hot air tax" is based on fraud we should be able to get this into the courts and the facts will be presented for all to see. The world wide temperature anomaly has been falling for 13 months and the temperature at the end of January is almost at the mean for the three main data streams used to calculate "average temp". When the data for February comes in things could get very interesting.
The warmists have little to support their position except CO2 is a greenhouse gas. The realists keep getting more and more data that contradicts the warmists position.

BC now joining Queerbec's lunacy of taxing C02...Both provinces having one of the cleanest overall skies compared to say Ontario's industrial output and Alberta's energy extraction...How Ironic!

I feel so secure to live in a country with both coasts protected by a bunch of socks and sandles socialist fruitcakes.

This country's suckage increases daily.

If Obama is elected down south it will truly be game over in North America...The monkey see monkey do sheeple up here will also stick it up everybody's collective arses by elected a moron like Dion...

Yes, with world financial markets in turmoil, energy prices soaring and geo/sociopolitical sparks flying everywhere in Europe and ME : All but buried/ignored by the MSM in favour of junk like AGW/the weather and Britney's problems at the forefront to keep leftards like Libby asleep:

Kate's predicted "starvation" is coming...And personally, I can't wait!
Atlas needs to shrug ASAP!

Maybe someday we will "deserve the children" again.

BTW: Speaking of starvation, a potash mfg (Fertilizer) is warning this AM of imminent world pockets of starvation...Causes: Global cooling + ethanol production.
Bono should be at both Gore and Suzuki's throats right now.

Truthsayer said ‘The budget in B.C. has to pass in the legislature before it becomes law. This gives the opportunity for debate on the issue. If it passes then we finally will have the opportunity to initiate a class action lawsuit against the government.”

Unfortunately, I do not think a class action suit will happen, and if one starts up, it will not go anywhere. The only good thing about the carbon tax is that it will be implemented in steps until 2012. By then, the world will most likely be much cooler than it is now. But, the alarmist’s religious fervor will not be cooled; if anything, they will take credit for stopping the “reality” of manmade global warming.

BTW, did you hear Bill Good on CKNW this morning (8:30 to 9:00 am)? He had his usual global warming alarmist flunky from UVic on the program (Andrew Weaver). This flunky’s medieval religious fervor would be funny, if he did not have so much influence. Weaver is on Campbell’s “Climate Change Panel” and was one of 14 authors of a chapter of the last IPCC “report”. Both were praising the so-called carbon tax, and saying how progressive and wonderful it is. All but one caller that Bill Good took were agog about the wonderfulness of the tax; the one dissenter asked how we will know the tax works (and ranted about people going to jail).

On his radio program, Good calls anyone who does not believe in manmade global warming “deniers”. Premier Gordon Campbell gets his input on the ‘reality’ of manmade global warming from true believers like Weaver and Good. This is the kind of drivel is that Campbell bought into. And like any politician, he will tax anything he thinks he can get away with.

I am sure the Budget Bill will pass by a massive, if not unanimous, vote; but the NDP say it does not go far enough in many areas, so they may make an empty gesture and vote against it. In any case, the new budget will pass, and the BC carbon tax will be in force in July.

For those BC residents who I thinking of sitting the election out, I would suggest voting for the BC Marijuana party (assuming it reincarnates itself in libertarian form again). In 2002? the BC Marijuana party was the only party to come out against C68 and garnered over 50,000 votes province wide -- most of those votes were in rural areas.

There's really little choice here in BC and I've never been able to bring myself to vote Lieberal, especially once I found out that the provincial Lieberals share campaign workers and office space with the federal lying scum. Unfortunately there's an attitude out here that people have to vote for the alternative most likely to keep the commies out of power. It was so easy when Social Credit was around.

It won't take long for people in the interior to see what a tax grab this is as people actually have to heat their houses out there and drive long distances. Terasan gas is obliging in providing average monthly temperatures for the current year and previous year. As average winter temperatures plummet things will get really hot in the interior of BC.

I can guarantee you dalton mcarsehole is watching this whole thing like a hawk.

Smart money says we have the same kind of bull#$%^ in Ontario by this time next year.

You did not think the "family day" was free, did ya?

All this global warming poppycock bull kaka and were getting all this snow and supposedly becuase of global warming we were suppost to be to be looking like they did in that stupid movie WATERWORLD where KEVIN KOSNER swims around looking like a dork and the greens still continue to lie about the whole thing

SAVE A PENGUIN EAT A LEOPARD SEAL