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February 16, 2008

The Sound Of Settled Science

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Posted by Kate at February 16, 2008 3:33 PM
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What is troubling to me is that the weather station was moved to the location knowing that that location met none of the 5 requirements to make the weather station a reliable source for data collection. This means that either the attendants who moved the weather station to this location were either completely ignorant of the basic requirements, or they purposefully knew and planned for the grossly fudged results they would get at this location.

As a laymen even I know what are the basic parameters that need to be met for a weather station location. So sadly, it's the latter to me. Purposeful manipulation of the data collection process to help perpetuate a myth.

Posted by: Schwarze Tulpe at February 16, 2008 4:09 PM

"Purposeful manipulation of the data collection process to help perpetuate a myth. "

A Myth and a Hoax and a Scam.

Some may be going to jail.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at February 16, 2008 5:00 PM

OT: Thought you might be interested

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Posted by: mal at February 16, 2008 5:27 PM

Garbage in, garbage out.

Any ideas on why the rabid/mad, and now demented, fake scientist Suzuki hasn't figured this age old computer modelling maxim out yet?

Oky doky, I answered my own question.
Sorry to bother anyone.

Posted by: rockyt at February 16, 2008 6:30 PM

If you want it to be warmer than it is, place your thermometer in a sunny spot.
When you have a desired result in mind you have to set up the right conditions. The enviro-wackies have that down to a SCIENCE.

It's the same principle with the pollsters who now tell us Dion's Libranos are tied with the Conservatives, Conservatives trending DOWN.

Posted by: Liz J at February 16, 2008 7:18 PM

Agree 100% Schwarze. A ponzi scheme this good has a LOT of pre-planning put into it. Just think. 10 years (1980) after the coming ice-age,the believers switched in mid stream and have now got their AGW Kult going quite nicely.

Ron in kelowna...while I hope so,I also highly doubt any of these fraudsters will see any jail time. Not even house arrest.The sad thing is,when sheeple are scammed this bad,they are also too scared/gutless to come forward and press charges because they think it may make them look like bigger fools then they think they are,which is totally the opposite. We all ready know what complete fools they are.

Posted by: Justthinkin at February 16, 2008 8:09 PM

Where did all the trolls go?

Posted by: DrD at February 16, 2008 8:31 PM

The GISS adjusted the readings on their version, lowering the temperatures in the 30's-60's and left the readings post 2000 alone. Who would have guessed that the station was moved in 2000?

What really bothers me about this stuff is that folks who tell us the sky is falling are the same people who adjust the readings. In what other area of 'science' are the experimenters allowed to adjust the data without detailed descriptions of how and what they did?

Posted by: RicardoVerde at February 16, 2008 9:30 PM

Whole lotta Arctic sea ice going on, see the satellite pix:

http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/ice-between-canada-and-sw-greenland-highest-level-in-15-years/

SW Greenland has the most in 15 years. Plus we are above last year's total Arctic level just a bit. Apparently the predictions that it would not recover did not pan out.

Posted by: Anthony Watts at February 16, 2008 10:10 PM

This past summer's ice minima seemed to me to be a shift in the circulation pattern of the northern seas moreso than some indication of rapid global warming. If one looks at the satellite images of the recent thaw it is visible that the ice was already beginning to advance in the Elsemere/Greenland area even as it thawed near the Bering straight. Maybe we are in the last portion of a Pacific oscillation where the north is warm and the south is cold.

Posted by: RicardoVerde at February 16, 2008 10:55 PM

Ricardo~ I did see an article to the same effect, so you may be correct. I think it was on ICECAP:

http://icecap.us/index.php

Posted by: otter at February 17, 2008 8:55 AM

Most of the hot air comes from the big flapping pieholes of AL GORE and the enviromental liars

Posted by: spurwing plover at February 17, 2008 3:15 PM

RicardoVerde,
You said:

"If one looks at the satellite images of the recent thaw it is visible that the ice was already beginning to advance in the Elsemere/Greenland area even as it thawed near the Bering straight. Maybe we are in the last portion of a Pacific oscillation where the north is warm and the south is cold."

A couple of comments:
1. I am confused as to what thaw you are speaking of, surely it is not at Ellesmere Island where at Eureka last night it was -42.7; on Jan7th -49.6; Jan 20th -49.6; or Dec 21st -44.6 deg C.
Nor would of it been in Alaska along the Beaufort where temps reached into the 60s below F with wind chills to minus 85 for much of Jan..
2. Me thinks that we are past the last portion of the Pacific Oscillation.
3. In the Canadian Arctic, the ice has stopped advancing, because, there is no longer any place for it to advance to what with it already being virtually one large sheet of ice.

The polar bears for the most part couldn't even get into the water if they wanted to, to drown. The likihood of them drowning is nil, but freezing to death is another matter.

Posted by: Erwin at February 18, 2008 2:56 PM
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