At the National Post. They'll get letters!
Posted by Kate at February 14, 2008 9:09 AMI'll say they'll get letters. Mostly from the humour impaired. Great column.
Posted by: Boudicae at February 14, 2008 9:42 AMVery good article Kate. I can see all the humour impaired people (as Boudicae calls them) either yelling and screaming because you're suggesting something horrific to them, or rolling their eyes and writing you off as a neo-con or whatever the hell they call conservatives nowadays. Hopefully converting all of the crop land into grain production for ethanol will cause a little bit of a famine in Canada to make them rethink their priorities.
Brilliant. I enjoyed it tremendously.
Is this in the print edition?
Canada needs a right wing voice in the MSM sooooooooooo badly. If this is in the print edition, I'm getting a subscription. And telling them why.
I did the same with Macleans, and still think it is the right thing to do.
Seriously, you can point to all the imperfections you want,but with the rest of the media so skewed against any conservative voice, having a national paper to present rational views is essential. In the past 3 months a number of very good and accurate things have been written in the National Post. It looks like a very conscious change in editorial policy there.
Like it or not the media are the single biggest influence on public opinion. All of the conservative bloggers and their readers in the world don't add up to a fraction of the readership of a single major Canadian paper. What's holding Harper and his people back from a majority is not the dweeb Dion, but the CBC and other media who relentlessly bombard Canadians with a negative impression of Harper, while propping up the Liberals.
Is this the first piece Kate has done in a major media outlet?
OK lets start a Pool - how long before MWW has a hissy fit? I say 15 minutes.
Posted by: Blazingcatfur at February 14, 2008 9:54 AMMay we all be spared from true hardship, Kate. I grew to adulthood on a farm and never wanted for anything I needed. So many people today have no idea what actual work is like, or what real risk is.
I would add that if more people were actually tired after a full day's honest work they would have neither the time nor energy to meddle with other people's business.
Posted by: William Hughes at February 14, 2008 9:55 AMQuote: It would push back the powerful "if it saves one child" lobby, along with their toboggan helmet police, school lunch analysts, anti-bullying program directors, and playground equipment removal teams. They'd be forced to shelve plans to open the family car to random search by health department inspectors with tobacco-detecting dogs. They'd return to tending their own needs and wants, instead of regulating away those of everyone else.
Praise Allah, well articulated. The entire article made me smile, it's time to tell the Nanny Nation Lovers to fuck off and find another hobby. I'm tired of them regulating me life.
Posted by: Rose at February 14, 2008 9:57 AMExcellent column Kate, I hope you'll keep them coming. It's about time (past time really) that people start putting things into the proper perspective. We really have become such a bunch of whiners!
Cheers,
Caroline
Posted by: Caroline at February 14, 2008 9:59 AMNice article.
I hope Kinsella reads it!
Great column Kate.
Canada needs to grow up.
We had a mild snow fall in Alberta that is typical of the Canadian experience and yet parents were freaking out about having their kids take a bus on the highway for a school trip.
Snow was not traditionally seen as the great threat to life and limb until the last five years.
Now, when a little winter storm blows by, all you hear on the news is how many nanoseconds it will take to freeze exposed skin and change it into a steaming gangrenous mess.
We Canadians are simply going to have to learn how to live with cold temperatures or else we are not going to be abe to call ourselves "the true North".
The famine you propose will certainly send us scampering into the snow looking for voles and prairie dogs for food.
Grandpa's snowshoes will need to be dusted off and brought into use again.
Lori, I disagree. The MSM is now irrelevant and has been for quite some time. Their influence on public opinion is waning fast. The last survey I saw showed something like 17% of those polled actually trusted the media.
I'll tell ya what their reaction to that piece will be too: the same as the 'holocaust joke' that our hostess played on Kinsella.
"Evil conservatives are wishing starvation on us," they'll snivel, "and they're making fun of people that suffer from starvation and famine!!!"
Bah.
Common sense and humour have become anathema to our liberals. Remember when you joke about famines that the people of Toronto wail and sob in fright if it snows or the power goes out.
A thought - back in the 1890's weak, stupid people did not emigrate west. They stayed where they were. It might explain why most of Canada's ass-hattery develops and blows out of Quebec and Ontario. It might explain the cultural differences between the West and central Canadian provinces.
Posted by: Jim at February 14, 2008 10:04 AM"there ought to be a law!"
Ya, just one: Lawyers and government workers don't get to vote, can't run for office and get beaten on sundays.
Posted by: Warwick at February 14, 2008 10:04 AMThere's a reason why the parents of the Baby Boomers were called "The Greatest Generation" and why none of the generations after them have earned a moniker like it...
Posted by: Garth Wood at February 14, 2008 10:05 AMGood one Kate!
If suggestions are accepted for your next column,could you please in your oh so 'elegant' way,take down the cbc'ers??
Posted by: Sammy at February 14, 2008 10:07 AMCross post from Reader Tips @ 8:48 a.m.:
Kate the Great! Catherine McMillan's article, "A Modest Proposal for Curing a Whiny Nation", takes up three quarters of p. A20 of the National Post today. What a very pleasant surprise.
But, watch out: sissies and PETA type bullies are bound to be outraged by Kate's idea of putting labrapoodle pups in the stew during a time of famine. I laughed.
Let's hope the National Post has the cojones to feature Kate on a regular basis. The adult toddlers of this country need some bracing antidotes to nanny's wagon loads of sugar.
Posted by: lookout at February 14, 2008 10:08 AMCongratulations on a fine article.
A delightful mixture of history, humour, and a well aimed arrow at the insufferable nanny state interventionism at every turn.
And God spare us from the fury of the bureaucrats!
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at February 14, 2008 10:11 AMBAM ! You are now linked thru WK's site...you "racist lunatic"..and I mean that in a nice way!
Posted by: Sammy at February 14, 2008 10:12 AMExcellent article. It reminds me of the current use of the word "hero". It is far too often used to describe the actions of people that not that long ago were expected of people....no heroism about it. It was their duty. The word "hero" fits for the men and women who climbed the stairs at the World Trade Centres to help others, or for that guy years ago who dove into the frozen river in Washington to save the woman going under after the jet crashed. Those are heros.....people who return a found wallet are not heros....they are just doing what is right.
Posted by: John Luft at February 14, 2008 10:12 AMGreat column Kate!
WOW! Kate and Kathy in the MSM in one week! The same week Worn Kinsellya gets turfed. Could there be a light at the end of the tunnel?
Posted by: bobzorunkle at February 14, 2008 10:13 AM Warwick you forgot educators.
Stop communism ! Shut down the universities !
http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html
And thanks for making me re-read the original modest proposal... brilliant now as it was then. It's hard to remember sometimes that the world of several hundred years ago was not all THAT different from our own.
Posted by: Lori at February 14, 2008 10:16 AMSimeon,
Can't do that one. My wife's a Teacher and my Dad's a university prof...
Now if you want to include the university administrators and the school boards, I'm with you! ;)
Posted by: Warwick at February 14, 2008 10:21 AMNot bad kate, Not bad at all.
I do think though your Photo should be their above your name, afterall Warren's was.
Warwick: Simeon beat me to it you forgot Professors.
Posted by: bryanr at February 14, 2008 10:22 AMJim: The MSM is now irrelevant and has been for quite some time. Their influence on public opinion is waning fast. The last survey I saw showed something like 17% of those polled actually trusted the media.
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It's not a question of trust. It's a question of constant, non-stop, negative reporting, skewing every word to their political agenda. People may not trust the media, but they are not immune to brainwashing. That is what the CBC, CTV, Toronto Star, G&M to a lesser extent are doing with every article - spin, bias, skew.
People here may not have any trouble smelling BS in the media, but I dare say that this group is not representative of the average voter taking the subway to work in Montreal or Toronto or Vancouver subways, who flip their papers as they go to work.
Posted by: Lori at February 14, 2008 10:25 AMNice column. I think that, generally, the public will support the idea behind Kate's column, which is that of self-reliance.
I think that self-reliance is, slowly, re-emerging within Canada. It's in a fight with the ideology of 'hand over all responsibility to the Welfare-Nanny government', but, I think it's a fight that is gradually being won by the self-reliant.
Could it possibly happen? Could Canada change its image of being reliant on the Words of the UN, reliant on being an economic suburb of the US, reliant on an ideology of anti-Americanism, and could Canada actually grow up, and its people make decisions as individuals?
It's a fight- the Bureaucrats like their comfortable jobs and their superiority over others and their power to rule everyone around. But, more and more, The People are fighting back. Cheers to Ezra Levant, Kate MacMillan and others.
Posted by: ET at February 14, 2008 10:30 AMVery well written. A little along the lines of "A Modest Proposal", and I'm sure some will manufacture offensive to the article.
But one disturbing trend of late - is it my imagination, or do you harbour a deep-seated hatred of poodles?
Posted by: rabbit at February 14, 2008 10:30 AMJust penned a short letter to the Editor of the NP
acknowledging the brilliance of this article and
congratulating them on their choice of author.
My apologies for mispelling Kate's name; it's McMillan.
By the way, I checked Kinsella's blog; he's quite upset with the NP for publishing her piece. Calls her all sorts of nasty names.
Posted by: ET at February 14, 2008 10:38 AM" the powerful "if it saves one child" lobby, along with their toboggan helmet police, school lunch analysts, anti-bullying program directors, and playground equipment removal teams"
Kate, you make my heart skip a beat.
Posted by: Occam's Carbuncle at February 14, 2008 10:42 AMKinsella is just pissed that he's been replaced by his nemesis.
I think the irony is sweet indeed!
He's not missed by is party,
He's not missed by his former employers (any of them,)
He never had any friends (aside from wormin) to miss him.
When you're universally loathed by everyone, it's you that has the problem.
Posted by: Warwick at February 14, 2008 10:43 AMMore right-wing tough talk from someone who lives vicariously through the historical suffering of others. Keep wishing for that famine...
Posted by: lberia at February 14, 2008 10:43 AMInstead of cooking the Labradoodle, you could could your nearby ankle-biter.
Step 1: Kick it in the teeth.
Yip yip!
Posted by: Doug at February 14, 2008 10:43 AMET for official compiler of Coles Notes from WK's blog!!!
Save the rest of us from giving him traffic ;)
Fantastic piece Kate. As I said in the reader's tips, it reminds me of those lists you see on the net from time to time, noting all the things we did as kids growing up in the 50's, 60's and 70's that would get today's parents tossed in jail for life.
Keep wishing for that famine...
Because once people like you seize power and try to recreate the Utopia of Cuba, North Korea, the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, etc, etc, there WILL be real famine.
Ignorant leftard.
Posted by: Doug at February 14, 2008 10:46 AMIf ..... Jack get his way and we leave the Taliban alone to regroup
and if .... we waste a trillion dollars fighting global warming, putting out economy in the gutter to boot
and if we coddle every little precious child to behave, share, not to keep score, "oh you got a %65 on your math test-but you tied your best!", just to have 20 million adults acting the same way.
If all that happens we will get that famine.
I agree with the intent of the article. Kinda like wanting my friends Mom to get Cancer and die like mine did so he would know what I was going through. I want people to pick it up and stop the petty griping and complaining too.
Just the thought of how it could come to famine is too real and too close to happening.
Posted by: jeff k at February 14, 2008 10:46 AMYes, some challenged idiot will actually accuse you of wanting a plague to wipe out hordes of people. It would be these people who would be the first to be eaten in any crisis.
(PS That is also humour).
Posted by: grok at February 14, 2008 10:47 AMCongratulations! Glad to see your writing get the exposure it deserves and I can't wait to read the letters...
Posted by: Security at February 14, 2008 10:47 AM"I would add that if more people were actually tired after a full day's honest work they would have neither the time nor energy to meddle with other people's business."
WH, I've often asked where activists get the time and energy to "demonstrate" or lobby endlessly.
Good work, Kate.
Posted by: dmorris at February 14, 2008 10:48 AM
Hmmmm, living in N. Louisiana I have seen coon, muskrat, neutrarat, squirrels, rabbits, possum, turtles and even armadilla boiled down, even have ate the Ole Mexicans Tamales down at the Railroad Tracks where any decent or knowledgeable cat would never stray, but I ain't a never tried cooking a labradoodle. Bet it would need salt.
Good article Miss McMillan.
"tough talk from someone who lives vicariously through the historical suffering of others. Keep wishing for that famine..."
Isn't your handle L.Beria? Right.
And as you are clearly not well read, I'll point you to Jonathan Swift. A modest proposal was a book written by Swift in the 18th century. It's considered a masterpiece of satire. Look up the word satire while your at it.
Posted by: Warwick at February 14, 2008 10:49 AMThat's you're, not your...
Posted by: Warwick at February 14, 2008 10:50 AMI see the toboggan-helmet police finally showed up. Hi Iberia! Dismantled any good monkey bars lately?
Nice job Kate. Should put some pepper in a few people's morning coffee, eh? Sometimes you've just got to resort to the 2x4 to get the jackass's attention.
Posted by: The Phantom at February 14, 2008 10:50 AMGood stuff Kate, I figure it's the Africa comment that'll probably spark the hissy fit.
And a nod to Lavrenty Beria for adding his pissy little comment; it completes the whole experience.
Loved your article Kate. Knowing you, I wasn't even sure if it was satire. Heh... I'm inclined to take it more seriously than not. Either way, wonderful piece. Definitely at the top of your game. And that leads me to one obvious question:
Why not write MORE op-eds??? Make it a weekly post or whatever. Love the links, but it's the commentary that keeps me coming back to this site. More please!
Posted by: Brad in Waterrloo at February 14, 2008 10:51 AMKate McMillan- The Queen of Common Sense in the Land of Mostly-Stuck-on-Stupid called Canada.
Excellent article:)
Outstanding. I would subscribe in a second to the NP if I was promised a column like that with every edition.
Posted by: Shane at February 14, 2008 10:58 AMOh, yes, they'll get letters - poorly punctuated, badly reasoned letters with lots of mis-spellings.
Well done, Kate, even by the high standards that you have established for yourself.
Posted by: Silicon Valley Jim at February 14, 2008 11:02 AMI have 3 members of my family who are professors.
They are all champagne sipping socialists with the better than thou attitude.
Educators are nothing more than government public employees with a better union.
Right on Kate! Kick those nanny state types right in the twins. I am so sick of these idiots meddling in my life, that I purposely live down this way to avoid them. Helmut laws(motorcycle and bicycle), seatbelt laws, smoking laws, land use laws, peanut butter laws, seat belt laws, and on and on and on.
Like the feminists used to howl:
KEEP YOUR LAWS OFF OF MY BODY !
Posted by: kingstonlad at February 14, 2008 11:10 AMfrom the comments he made, old Warnout seems particularly upset with the description of Africa.
So Liberal of him to prove he can't handle the truth.
He's more useless than a fart in a wetsuit or leak in a submarine, a true progressive with an intellect so deep it rivals a parking lot puddle.
Posted by: Fred at February 14, 2008 11:14 AMA refreshing viewpoint.
Nobody is missing Kinsella already...
Nicely crafted essay!
Posted by: Drained Brain at February 14, 2008 11:16 AMI don't visit this site often, usually end up here via Kinsella's blog..though it seems he's gone crazy recently...Anyway I LOVED that article! Cheers
Posted by: Phil at February 14, 2008 11:18 AMkate,my(me..vancouver 1947) mom(regina 1920) and my dad (moosejaw 1916)used to say waaay back in the 70's that what the country needed was a good depression to make people literally help each other again.....and to learn how to 'just get on with it".
and i can remember my dad lining up his meathead sons during the first manifestations of truedopian folly and explaining to us that "he(peeaire) was fucking us....you understand that don't you mugs?"...it took me nearly 20 years to realize how right he was....
Posted by: john begley at February 14, 2008 11:18 AMI won't be happy with our current MSM, until every last one of the current crop of carpet baggers and leeches have been handed new employment.Hopefully (praise allah..!) in a greasy spoon somewhere near Humbolt Saskatchewan*.
Just the kind of place where you can make their life miserable by missing the toilet when you go in to use the facilities, and hiding the mop.
Ahh..but a boy can dream..
* My apologies to everyone in Humbolt for dropping these poor excuses for humanity in your lap, but you were the first community i saw that kinda looked like the middle of nowhere on the map!..it's also a fantasy, so try not to be too upset!
Posted by: Kursk at February 14, 2008 11:18 AMI don't even have to read it, cuz I own a handy dandy K-Tel Kinsella Blog Post Generator:
"Kate... Kathy... Flying Monkeys... Wicked Witches... Nazi... Conspiracy... Right Wing... Racist... Lawsuit"
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at February 14, 2008 11:18 AMWhen I read that, all I heard was the bitter wind blowing over the winter wasteland surrounding some irrelevant redoubt in Saskatchewan.
Pretty soon, they won't even be able to give away The National Post
Posted by: CBC Fan at February 14, 2008 11:20 AMOh, and the sputtering that one can imagine actually hearing from a certain other website is hilarious. I had no idea they'd fill the void I left with wicked witches...
Posted by: Drained Brain at February 14, 2008 11:21 AMDat's not fair.
Self-important pompous a$$ gets fired.
Mischief-maker gets hired.
It doesn't get any better than that.
Makes my day, big girl.
Posted by: rockyt at February 14, 2008 11:22 AMLittle Blogger on the Prairie.
Posted by: Brent Weston at February 14, 2008 11:25 AMI can only imagine Warren's state of mind right now... his regularly pasty-while skin now an ashen grey as he's curled into a corner rocking back and fourth... "No! Nooooooooooo... I'm not a racist, I just discriminate based on race... That pissant Levan't can't really be winning, people like having their thoughts controlled... I'm not a fake Nazi hunter, I'm a real Nazi hunter, I saw evidence, it was in a kids bathroom... where's mummy and daddy? I need mummy and daddy... Jews like me, they really do, see, I've got pictures... Yes, yes I left the post but I did it because they were wrong and I really hope the owners are reading that on my blog... And now... now the Post is publishing the wicked witches of the east and of the west... Why God? Why have you done this to me?!!! Liberal values.... LIBERAL VALUES!!! Don't these friggin idiots know that they're supposed to embrace Liberal values??? Mummy? Mummy are you there? I'm a somebody... Where's mummy?"
Posted by: Richard Evans at February 14, 2008 11:26 AMHahahaha..Kathy..that's a great idea..everybody pitch in and post what the Kinsella-nator 3000 random blog post/alternate universe generator would spit out on any given subject..
Posted by: Kursk at February 14, 2008 11:27 AMPretty soon, they won't even be able to give away The National Post...
Sort of like CBC listener ratings?
Ironies "R" Us...
Posted by: Drained Brain at February 14, 2008 11:27 AMperfect , with Warren Kinsella quitting his print post , and Kate now with a readership in the papers, this should be the final step in Warrens transformation to Capt. Philip Francis Queeg,
"wheres my strawberries , Kate took them."
Posted by: cal2 at February 14, 2008 11:27 AMGreat article Kate, Thanks and continued success in the MSM.
You and others like you are it's only hope.
"CanWest, which owns and operates Canada's largest chain of metro newspapers, as well as the Global television network, is one of the country's biggest media companies. It competes with Bell Globemedia, owner of The Globe and Mail and CTV Television Network Ltd.
Mr. Asper said CanWest would like to expand through acquisitions but didn't specify what segment of the media sector it would look at first."
http://www.yourmedia.ca/news/2006/060615_cwg_LA_consolidate.html
great article kate and hope you can generate many more. maybe the nanny generation might wake up when they are issued those nice blue tokens we used to get during the 2nd. world war.
Posted by: spike at February 14, 2008 11:31 AMCBC fan,
A supporter of the media swill better known as the CBC with a grand total of 6% of Canadian viewership is calling this article irrelevant. Heh.
I have a cure guaranteed to help you cure your stupidity>Tie a plastic bag tightly around your head for at least 5 minutes and I promise you will never post a stupid comment again.
If your having trouble breathing at first hang in there that feeling will pass.....
CBC fan,
A supporter of the media swill better known as the CBC with a grand total of 6% of Canadian viewership is calling this article irrelevant. Heh.
I have a cure guaranteed to help you cure your stupidity>Tie a plastic bag tightly around your head for at least 5 minutes and I promise you will never post a stupid comment again.
If your having trouble breathing at first hang in there that feeling will pass.....
I’ll bet Wornout was a tattletale in school.
Posted by: Bernie at February 14, 2008 11:39 AMWait, L.Beria? Laventry Beria? That's quite disturbing. I thought he was Spanish.
Lefties never use the shift key, riiight.
Posted by: The Phantom at February 14, 2008 11:39 AMIn the last week the National Post has turfed WK, ran the mohamed cartoon, and had both Kate and Kathy Shaidle write for them.
It would be a good idea to go subscribe and tell them why.
I make a point of buying a copy of the Post and leaving it in a diner type restaurant whenever I go there. It's a small step, but if everybody does it....
Now I see what I was missing!
Bells ring .. lightbulbs flash.... Yes Kate!
re the msm,take a read of Lawrence Martin's G&M piece today..'As media tilts rightward..so will the country'.Interesting read.You can access the story FREE thru Cherniak's link (in his post about how the media are turning against PMSH)
Posted by: Sammy at February 14, 2008 11:45 AM"When I read that, all I heard was the bitter wind blowing"
Posted by: CBC Fan at February 14, 2008 11:20 AM
CBC fans suck AND blow at the same time, nothing is ever heard at the CBC over all the rackets created by it's fans.
The wind is coming out of the west, socialist fan, the rackets are being exposed for what they are.
Posted by: richfisher at February 14, 2008 11:48 AMBravo, Kate, bravo!
Posted by: Marcia at February 14, 2008 11:48 AMAnother request for your next topic.
Please explain Adscam and Gomery to the retar, er uh, CBC fans.
Lori wrote @ 10:25 a.m., “People here may not have any trouble smelling BS in the media, but I dare say that this group is not representative of the average voter taking the subway to work in Montreal or Toronto or Vancouver subways, who flip their papers as they go to work.”
I couldn’t agree more. The invincible ignorance of even those Canadians one believes to be intelligent, reasonable people of good will is truly scary. E.g., In recent conversations with friends of mine like these (I think we’re still friends!), which touched on politics, I, once again, discovered how woefully ignorant they are about the facts on all kinds of issues.
They think the UN’s a great “idea” and don’t seem bothered that, in reality, it’s a disaster, now run by thug states. They think the Afrocentric school should be given a chance because “We’re [Canadians of European descent] in the minority now”. (WRONG: Canadian census, 2001 for TORONTO: 67% white, 5% black) Stephen Harper is “scary”, far more scary than the Liberals, and THAT Jim Flaherty—with whatever he did with $120 000—is FAR worse than the Adscam theft of $40 million or the host of other major Liberal graft over decades. Plus, the Conservatives aren’t doing very well re Global Warming or Afghanistan. Did the Liberals do anything right on those files? I’m not supposed to bring up such “inconvenient truths”. (At this point, the conversation has become quite tense and we change the subject. I’m considered “indelicate” or even belligerent for talking facts rather than bromides.)
’Far better to have more people like Kate writing in the MSM than not. Rome wasn’t built in a day. Every time another realist, versus the utopian idiots, who now reign supreme in the MSM, has a say, the closer we get to having the truth reach more people. (But, as I said, a lot of Canadians, well programmed over the past few decades, seem impervious to truth. Kyrie eleison!)
'Been a good week for mischief .
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 14, 2008 12:00 PMI really enjoyed reading this as well as many other ones on your site !!! Your site does express the thoughts and feelings of a lot of people in this and other parts of this country,keep up the good work!!!!
Posted by: Lenco at February 14, 2008 12:02 PMExcellent article, Kate. Please keep 'em coming.
Posted by: Joanne (TB) at February 14, 2008 12:06 PMExcellent Kate...and topical as I was discussing this very topic with someone just the other day. My parents lived through the depression and that lesson coloured my upbringing. Today's kids know nothing of real want or need...they want it, they get it.
Those that have seen how bad things can truly get are those that are truly grounded and don't sweat the small stuff.
And interesting, ironic actually, that lberia (he of the Ukranian Famine / Genocide era) would negatively comment on this topic of famine. Leftists are sooooo dense.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 14, 2008 12:08 PMgreat article...reminds me of visiting a graveyard in northern manitoba a few years ago.
next to one of my ancestors grave was a family plot..6 children died, all the same year.try to imagine that...i have 1 child,i hope she buries me...
great Post post.
i tried to leave a comment at warrens blog but something i wrote triggered his spam filter. i was pleasant enough but i included the letters SDA in my message. i wonder if that was it.
ps: im conservative and dont use caps not much for punctuation either
russ
Posted by: russ graham at February 14, 2008 12:15 PMA most excellent read with my morning coffee! Thanks for that Kate
Posted by: The Progressive Indian at February 14, 2008 12:17 PMCongratulations Kate. It's a first class piece of writing.
Perhaps it's just that I generally agree with you on this issue or perhaps its because of the longer length of the article but I think I like you a lot more in the paper than on your blog. Hopefully
I'll get to see more of you there.
The National Post may start doing better now that they are hiring people with relevant points of view and something worth reading. I will start picking it up.
It's beautiful ...
Piece-of-work Kinsella OUT
Kate@katewerk IN
Who was it that said "The times they are changin'"?
Posted by: John West at February 14, 2008 12:26 PMKate, I am forced to take you to task on this one. Yor suggestion of boiling a Labradoodle puppy in a stew is irresponsible and reprehensible.
Stewing would be a better method for the larger, tougher breeds, like say a Shepherd, or a Rottweiler.
A Labradoodle puppy would be better suited to the grill, or perhaps a nice stir fry. The latter especially, as it gives you a good chance to wok your dog.
Posted by: Karl at February 14, 2008 12:30 PM"Ya, just one: Lawyers and government workers don't get to vote, can't run for office and get beaten on sundays."
Warwick for PM!!!
Posted by: Sean at February 14, 2008 12:40 PMOh man ... talk about sour grapes. Kinsella is having fits over at his foxhole. He says ...
"[SECOND UPDATE: Are the Aspers - who may or may not be visiting this web site - aware that the aforementioned editor is taking submissions from racist lunatics who mock the Holocaust and calls for genocide in Africa? (Which the Post's comment editor permits her to call, scare quotes theirs, "that continent-wide parade of dysfunction known as 'Africa'.") ]"
As if the Aspers don't know what they are doing. What at twit. His problem is that he can't handle the truth about Africa and a lot of other stuff.
This is too good.
From a fellow Saskatchewanian - add my voice on a great article - I have emailed it widely including to people I know in Toronto who are just overwhelmed with the snow! The horrors they are experiencing! Now please write something about the 'it takes a village' crowd.
Posted by: Maureen at February 14, 2008 12:47 PMI have just subscribed to the online NP and I've sent them an e-mail indicating that I purchased the subscription specifically in support of the following changes:
1. Kinsella gone.
2. Shaidle given a column.
3. McMillan given a column.
4. Their coverage of the HRC scandal.
5. Their printing the "bomb Muhammad" cartoon.
I would encourage others to do the same. Good behavior should be rewarded, and the NP will take notice of any extra $$$ this right-ward stance brings in.
Posted by: Sean at February 14, 2008 12:52 PMCharles Adler has a great phrase for the type of people CBCfan, Robert (@uck the joooees)McClelland and the Kinsella's of the world are.
"Fart Catchers"
I received a nice note from David Asper this morning. :)
Posted by: Kate at February 14, 2008 12:52 PMYou said it all Kate, should be a "must read" for politicians of all stripes.We've become a nation of "weenies"!
Posted by: D'Arcy at February 14, 2008 12:53 PMAbsolutely excellent Kate!! I can't wait to hear the leftards screaming that the right hates puppies and that Kate should be taken to court for suggesting cooking them, and then having to backtrack when they later find she is a dog lover. Leftards never do any research.
cal2@11:27 - nice thought but WK can't become Capt. Queeg. Queeg had two balls.
Posted by: Neil at February 14, 2008 12:56 PMAssuredly a great article, and hopefully the beginnings of a change in the tone of articles published at the National Post.
Unfortunately I believe the premise of the article is wrong in todays socialist canaduh.
There is already a "famine" in canaduh it is occurring in the maritimes with shortages of cod and other fish stock and has been going on now for approximately a decade. The resulting shortage has only spawned more socialist intervention so that EI is a major part of the maritime domestic product. Self reliance takes a back seat to living in picturesque unsustainable communities on welfare and complaining about politicians commenting about their "culture of defeat".
While I would hope that Canadians (Vimy Ridge Canadins Fenris calls them) would respond well to adversity, I fear that the point Kate makes that two or three generations of truedeaupians and immigrants who have not been required to adapt to the existing culture as they arrive will instead sit at home and call the talk show host to complain that the government is not doing enough for them when (if) the famine bites hard.
Posted by: cascadian at February 14, 2008 1:19 PMGreat column, Kate! Hopefully you will have enlightened a few people. You have definitely aggravated Warren, though. And for that you deserve a hearty congratulations!
Posted by: Soccermom at February 14, 2008 1:19 PMGreat work, Kate.
I've been in Africa 3 times in the past few months - in one of the "better" run countries.
Believe me, their disfunctionality is entirely their own fault; including the fact that they let the French continue in a quasi-colonial role.
Posted by: jlc at February 14, 2008 1:19 PMTypo - That would be Vimy Ridge Canadians of course.
Posted by: cascadian at February 14, 2008 1:21 PMCongrats on the NP article, Kate. I thoroughly enjoyed it, although I don't think we need a full-on famine to jolt Canadians out of their narcissism. All that is required is a 3% rise in interest rates.
Posted by: mark peters at February 14, 2008 1:28 PMBrilliant!
Posted by: Manny, in Moncton at February 14, 2008 1:29 PMDid any of you Ontarians,especially Torontonians,here a collective gasp this am when folks there read this beauty?
Posted by: Sammy at February 14, 2008 1:33 PMOutstanding article, Kate. I wish every Canadian would read it.
Both my parents grew up on farms in Quebec during the Depression, and know what 'hardship' means. In my father's family they actually DID eat the dog the winter my grandfather died. And yet those people did not complain. They could grow food, cook meals from scratch, make clothes, build and repair everything. Nowadays how many of the 'poor' do these things?
Posted by: GreenNeck at February 14, 2008 1:34 PMShould have read 'hear',not here.What next for Kate..a seat on the At Issue table with Mansbridge?
Posted by: Sammy at February 14, 2008 1:38 PMYes -- Chantal out, Kate in !
Posted by: ron in kelowna at February 14, 2008 1:41 PMGreat read. Dog ain't that tasty but i didn't have a pot to cook it in . Beats the hell out of muskrat though.
Posted by: cantuc at February 14, 2008 1:43 PMGreat job. I was cheering the whole way through.
(Labradoodle reference was hilarious).
Keep up the great work.
"Dog ain't that tasty but i didn't have a pot to cook it in . Beats the hell out of muskrat though."
I never had dog, or muskrat, so I can't say. However, my wife makes a delicious groundhog stew. Those varmints eat my vegies, so we can say we kill 2 birds with one stone.
Posted by: GreenNeck at February 14, 2008 1:53 PM"Pretty soon, they won't even be able to give away The National Post"
Posted by: CBC Fan at February 14, 2008 11:20 AM
CBC Fan: A fan of the CBC shouldn't be talking about people choosing not to buy a publicly available product. After all, the CBC exists entirely on forced taxation.
Wanna bet where the CBC would be today if it had to pay its own way?
Posted by: Richard Ball at February 14, 2008 2:06 PMExcellent. I am emailing a link to your article to the NY Times with a suggestion that they reprint it on their editoral page.
Posted by: RSP at February 14, 2008 2:08 PMAn excellent column Kate!
Hey CBC fan and WK:
I already subscribe to the NP. I'm going to buy another subscription as a gift for one of my leftie acquaitances and I emptied my local newstand supply of NP to fill our lunchroom.
Life is great today!
Catherine "Thank God I'm A Country Girl" McMillan is consistant enough. She rides along those dusty and lonely prairie roads on her very fast motorcycle, radar in one hand, looking for anything off white or "whiny" to bitch about. It's ironic, given the tone of her piece in the Post.
She's quite the hilarious prankster too. Just last week she inscribed the serial number from her bike onto her arm and then photographed it, intending it to look like a concentration camp tattoo. She sent the photo to Warren Kinsella, a former writer at the Post, with whom she has a less than collegial relationship. Gotcha, Warren!
Her website, smalldeadanimals, is littered with the small-minded complaints and comments of her readers, always vigilant for signs a mosque may be sprouting on the horizon. They don't like immigration laws, they don't like reasonable accomodation, they don't iike many many things and people. And it's still cold as hell in Winnipeg so Kate and her readers think global warming is a "leftard" conspiracy.
"Kate" Mcmillan, like many other bloggers, set out to push back against negative focus (negative meaning points of view other than her own...) in the mainstream media, and then become part of the noise she hated to begin with.
She's a good conservative though, so let me appeal to her in the voice of a passed on right of centre populist, Ronald Reagan; "Kate Mcmillan, tear down that website!"
Posted by: John Daly at February 14, 2008 2:10 PMFYI, here are the email addresses of David Asper, Chairman, Gordon Fisher, Publisher, and Douglas Kelly, Editor-in-Chief, of The National Post:
dasper@nationalpost.com
gfisher@nationalpost.com
dkelly@nationalpost.com
I've just emailed them to let them know how much I appreciate this week's coverage: Danish cartoon, HRC/Levant, and Kathy and Kate. I’ve expressed my thanks and my wish that more of the same—plus, maybe, Mark Steyn again—would be much appreciated.
Welcome to the Misanthropes Club!
Thank you for the laugh.
Posted by: Bour3 at February 14, 2008 2:13 PMWe stand up to hardship very well here in Toronto. Why, CFRB told us every ten minutes that the temperature on Tuesday, all of -14, was dangerously cold, especially with a nasty wind chill added. No report yet on how many perished, but by God we never called in the Army this time.
Jim in Toronto.
John Daly, you're wrong. It's not "reasonable accomodations [sic]" we don't like.
It's UNREASONABLE accommodations—irresponsibility and unaccountability—that we have a problem with. As a teacher, I know first hand that one crucial example is the dumbing down of both behavioural and academic expectations in this country, especially for the students most at risk. In the case of visible minorities, this is aptly labelled, “the soft racism of lowered expectations”. Are you OK with this? Why don't you think about it?
I'm sure if you did some clear thinking, you could also come up with other examples of dumbing down in present day Canada. Go ahead.
Here is John Daly, aka johnny maudlin.
...-
Comments:
"Go back to Israel, you [*****]!
By Blogger johnny maudlin, at 7:04 PM"
http://tinyurl.com/2lltoq
(Tuesday, August 01, 2006)
(A live blog from an Israeli bunker via laptop and wifi.)
LOL - My God that was great!
"A half million 20-somethings would emerge from their parents' basements, if only to search for food."
Labradoodles!
Posted by: dimestorenovel at February 14, 2008 2:41 PMKate, you're a hypocrite. You're basically whining that people are whining. To paraphrase your final paragraph and turn it back on you, I think you should be grateful for what you have (a modern civilization), accept your own burdens (whiny people), and mourn quietly for what you lost (the mentality of the late 19th century). Yes, people are completely pampered in the modern age, it's an unavoidable side effect. If you don't like it, you can emmigrate to the Congo where will you find your inner stoicism amongst famine and war and rape. Or build a log cabin in some remote northern wilderness. Or you can stay in urban Canada and try not to complain.
Posted by: Art at February 14, 2008 2:46 PMArt:
Kate is not "whining". She is warning, a very different thing. A clear implication of her article is that an intolerance for hardship leads directly to a loss of that "modern civilization" you think you're defending.
"Or build a log cabin in some remote northern wilderness. Or you can stay in urban Canada "
Kate lives in urban Canada? Remote northern wilderness is probably closer to the truth.
Posted by: jhuck at February 14, 2008 3:05 PMKate's must-read blog gets a wider audience, WK stock falling, Ezra wins a hudna... happy valentine's day to me!!!
Posted by: birdie num num at February 14, 2008 3:07 PMArt:
Unavoidable side effect? Of what? Of prosperity? Are you suggesting that capitalism inevitably leads to the hegemony of the petty bureaucrat and to a cringing, timorous approach to life by the population in general?
3 rounds. Art and Kate, UFC rules. Now taking bets.
Posted by: Occam's Carbuncle at February 14, 2008 3:09 PMBut Art, that's the whole point. People in Urban Canada are the ones whining loudest. They want be spoonfed, have their chins wiped, their diapers changed and to get burped. Then right away they complain that they were fed too little, or too much, that their chins still feel sticky, they've done an "Uhoh" and "Someone had better clean that up", and that they were patted too hard. Kate is absolutely right. Perhaps if we had to face some REAL adversity we could finally mature as a nation. I should say re-mature as we have had moments of greatness in the past.
Posted by: olaudj at February 14, 2008 3:10 PMSo Art - why does it have to be your way - Sounds like you are whining about Kate's article.
It is time that people woke up to the fact that the "special interest groups" are controlling us to the point that we have dumbed down our population so that they have to accept no personal responsibility.
But then, Art, you probably wear a helmet when you toboggan.
Kate - most hearty congratulations on your article. Perhaps we now know why WK said the NP was too right wing upon his leaving - he probably KNEW who was going to be invited to submit a column.
You not only speak for the people of Saskatchewan, you speak for so many of us that have to sit by and be labelled by people like Art as somehow less than because we only want people to take responsibility for their own actions.
Keep up the GREAT work Kate.
Posted by: Alberta Girl at February 14, 2008 3:12 PMRSP: Looking over the article again, it seems to me that 99% is whining and the other 1% is some vague message which is completely buried under the heavy sarcasm and whining. If she wants to warn us, then explicit warn us. Instead she talks about bringing on a famine. Even her title ("a 'modest' proposal") is pure sarcasm. I think it would be poetic justice if we did have a famine and she died of starvation. I haven't read her blog, but I'll bet there's a lot of complaining thinly disguised as observations. The woman's a hypocrite, plain and simple.
Posted by: Art at February 14, 2008 3:13 PMGreat article Kate. You city slicker. lol
Posted by: Mugs at February 14, 2008 3:17 PMfAart (or, would you prefer "Art with a silent f"?):
Do you own a dictionary? If so, why don't you turn to the page that has the word "satire"...
Posted by: James Goneaux at February 14, 2008 3:21 PMFrom the website of the Sarcasm Society (http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/), a definition, by Fyodor Dostoyevsky...
Sarcasm: the last refuge of modest and chaste-souled people when the privacy of their soul is coarsely and intrusively invaded.
More, please!
fArt (or, would you prefer "Art with a silent f"?):
Do you own a dictionary? If so, why don't you turn to the page that has the word "satire"...
At least Kinsella's excuse is that he went to J-school and he is a lawyer. What is your excuse for being English deficient?
Posted by: James Goneaux at February 14, 2008 3:22 PMArt,
She is pointing out that we are experiencing gradual loss of freedom to the Nanny state for little or no gain, something you obviously support.
Unlike yourself many of us take umbrage with absurd, pointy and weakened minds that believe herding humanity away from even the tiniest risk is a good thing.
Now put that tin foil hat back on and turn off your computer before you hurt yourself.
Damn, is Kinsella jealous of you and Shaidle! What a wanker, he can't take being schooled by a bunch of girls.
Great work, I was so proud to see your column this morning on my breakfast table.
Posted by: Flaggman at February 14, 2008 3:25 PMThe Pioneer Spirit is both the cause and the solution. Pioneer Spirit built and improved things and passed that behavior on to their children. They built schools, roads, hospitals and all other modern infrastructure. The problem is that the next generations still had the desire to build and improve but fewer projects were needed. Then they started to create problems to fix. That is where the trouble began. Kate is right. If there was a "real" problem in the country, the lingering Pioneer Spirit would re-assert itself in its positive form.
Posted by: LynnH at February 14, 2008 3:26 PMJames Goeaux,
Kate's piece in the Post was not satire. It was, a as stated by someone else, a warning that we are far down the road of losing what the last couple of generation sacrificed for us.
You need to get the dictionary yourself. Or take a course in English Literature.
Posted by: John West at February 14, 2008 3:28 PMRumour has it the mayor of Toronto, i a desperate move, is going to demand the Army be sent to shovel the sidewalks of his Grate City. He will demand they wear their helmets so none will be injured.
Seems a little winter is too much for him the rest of the TttOhh whiners and they will hire special Winter Snowfall Grief Counselors to reduce the trauma being felt in the population.
Posted by: Fred at February 14, 2008 3:28 PMbeing schooled by a bunch of girls.
Quite the opposite. Kate and Kathy are "real men" in comparison to the wimpy-whiny effeminate victim mentality of Kin-seller.
Posted by: Doug at February 14, 2008 3:29 PMKate,
I, too, had intrepid forebears that settled in SK at the turn of the last century. Can you imagine what they were up against? The delicate types today couldn't dig a single chunk of sod without seeking redress from some gov't. dept. or other for their hardship.
I blame folk music.
Tom Bray
Famine is but one example of systemic failure. Current course and speed inches us toward a fragility. We worry about toboggan helmets when, for instance, the Chinese are perfecting weaponry to destroy GPS satellites.
If you think that's not a greater threat than a toboggan spill, or inhaling second hand smoke as you enter a building, then you owe it to yourself to become informed about where the precursor ingredients in our food supply come from, and how food and pharma was scrambling in 2007 to find supplies when the toxic dog food and toothpaste shut down the supply chain. Of course, the MSM is too busy smearing Harper to do much real reporting how how tenuous our economy has become. We have rapidly devolved into a single-supplier economy, which anybody in manufacturing knows is perilous.
GPS gone, means shipping is massively disrupted, which means our food and pharma goes into crisis mode. Oh yes, and oil too. Double whammy.
We've become an adolescent society, endlessly appeased by a political party ready to feed us the junk food we crave in return for letting them rob us blind. Meanwhile, we dangle by fewer and fewer threads.
Posted by: Shaken at February 14, 2008 3:35 PM"Or you can stay in urban Canada"
Kate, was it unsettling when they moved Delisle to urban Canada? Did they use a helicopter, or just drag it with a dozer?
Seriously, I can't understand why this insightful column seems to be causing so much angst. I suspect the Friends of Warren are not amused.
BTW, James Goneau, I went to J school, I'm a lawyer and now I'm teaching English.
Posted by: christopher rivers at February 14, 2008 3:36 PM"Her website, small deadanimals, is littered with the small-minded complaints and comments of her readers, always vigilant for signs a mosque may be sprouting on the horizon. They don't like immigration laws, they don't like reasonable accomodation, they don't iike many many things and people. And it's still cold as hell in Winnipeg so Kate and her readers think global warming is a "leftard" conspiracy."
And yet, John Daly, you keep turning up here to spout your precious pearls of wisdom. I'm beginning to find you tiresome and don't think you're at all interested in reasoned debate. Find a Liberal blog where everyone agrees with you and you guys can have an ass kissing party.
Posted by: KP at February 14, 2008 3:36 PMArt,
Kate lives in rural Saskatchewan and knows her way around guns. You more than likely live in an urban setting and know your way around the Safeway aisles. Just who do you think has a better chance of surviving a famine?
And a fair warning - you get in my way while we're both looting Safeway, I'll knock you down in a heartbeat. :)
Encore! Absolutely brilliant Kate. But get the NP to ditch the Sunday Name, Catherine just doesn't bring you to mind. I just can't imagine a Catherine on a bike.
Posted by: Antenor at February 14, 2008 3:39 PMWow, I only knew one person from Saskatchewan. She was a nice girl, liked to watch the sunset on the horizon. You people are the angriest bunch of hardasses I ever had the misfortune to run into. For the record, though, I don't support special interest groups like some of you have implied. But I do hate the smell of cigarettes, and if someone smokes in my face, you bet I'll be annoyed without a damn shred of guilt. I like that that I have the luxury to be pissed off at smokers instead of worrying about diptheria and famine. Also, don't delude yourselves that you can read two posts of mine, take it all out of context and pretend that you know me and what I stand for -- that's prejudice. That's that. If you think I'm going to waste any more of my time arguing with the likes of you miserable people, you are sadly mistaken.
Posted by: Art at February 14, 2008 3:41 PM"If you think I'm going to waste any more of my time arguing with the likes of you miserable people, you are sadly mistaken."
Which begs the question - why did you waste any of your precious time in the first place?
You'll never get that time back, Art. Never.
It's gone forever. Wasted on miserable, angry, diptheria-loving hardass chainsmokers.
All you can do I suppose is try to collect yourself and find the strength to carry on. Be brave, little one.
Sort of OT, but the surrender monkeys are in full force over at Jay Hills commentary on Northern Opinions, , if you have time create an account there and give Jay Hill some support!
Posted by: The Progressive Indian at February 14, 2008 3:49 PMArt - you use the word "prejudice" as if it were a bad thing.
Posted by: Blazingcatfur at February 14, 2008 3:49 PMI know you have heard it all day, but I just wanted to say well done!
Kinswilsueya is going stark raving mad, over it. A bonuse for sure.
Kate, that was a wonderful picture they have of you on national newswatch. You're a beautiful woman, and your brains were shining through in that picture.
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 14, 2008 3:54 PMAm I dreaming? Yesterday I opened the Post and found Kathy; this morning I found Kate. Can it get any better than this?
Yes, it can, if we see you guys there every week.
I can't wait to see the letters from the howling nanny mutts. Well...I can wait until tomorrow, rather than visit you-know-who today.
Posted by: felis corpulentis at February 14, 2008 3:54 PMKinsella, lost without his ego-coat, is very angry. He's ranting against Kate.
Kate made a fool of him over his 'The Nazis are Coming!' post. He doesn't allow comments on his blog, so, didn't he email his friends and acquaintances asking them to write him with letters of Support For Kinella? He posted them.
Will he email his friends and acquaintances, to get them to write in to Kate's blog with nasty letters. Hmmm? Would Kinsella do anything like that? Hmmm?
Why is he so angry now with the National Post? After all, he claims he quit them; he doesn't say he was dumped by them. So, why is he so angry with them?
Posted by: ET at February 14, 2008 3:54 PMHAHA ... makes me wonder why National Newswatch has KInsella's blog as an item!!
Go find you own lnks cause I'm not helping drive any traffic to that waste of digital ether.
But just so ya'll know ... Warren's working extra hard to show how obtuse he is!
Posted by: OMMAG at February 14, 2008 3:54 PMDon't forget about us little bloggers when you get all world famous.
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 14, 2008 3:55 PMMr. Art,
What if instead of you "hat[ing] the smell of cigarettes" I hated the smell of you? Would it be ok then for me to ban you from institutions that I frequent?
If you don't like the smell of smoke leave. If you don't go to a restaurant because they have smoking, start your own restaurant. It is not the government's job to put up with your whiny crap. Can I ban eating meat at places where I eat just because I'm a vegetarian? Eating meat has a positive correlation with colon cancer in men. Maybe if I bitch like a whiny liberal I'll get my way... after all I am looking after your best interests, even if you believe otherwise.
We can smell your type on this blog. The guy who comes in, for the first time, and somehow believes that he will cause a 360 in everyone's mind.
Posted by: Jon at February 14, 2008 3:56 PMYes, 'Africa' will bring the heat, no matter that what Kate said is accurate and true. You're just not allowed to speak honestly about such things.
F'em, I say.
Posted by: Kevin at February 14, 2008 3:56 PMArt, on behalf of myself alone, I'd like to thank you for personifying absolutely everything Kate spoke about in here article.
Posted by: The Phantom at February 14, 2008 3:56 PMThe comments section for Kate's Essay is now up and running at the National Post.There are some great comments here. Some of this should be seen in the NP comments section as well Great essay Kate.
Gil
The comments section for Kate's Essay is now up and running at the National Post.There are some great comments here. Some of this should be seen in the NP comments section as well. Great essay Kate!
Gil
"A half million 20-somethings would emerge from their parents' basements, if only to search for food."
...and clean laundry.
Posted by: Sean at February 14, 2008 4:01 PMGod Bless you Kate.
Posted by: carol at February 14, 2008 4:02 PMPhantom,
Touché
Well written, Kate.
It must be killing Warren Kinsella that you and Kathy Shaidle have op/ed pieces in the National Post.
You are a good writer.
Posted by: penny at February 14, 2008 4:06 PMLike Carol said.
GOD BLESS YOU KATE.
Well, well done.
I hope you got my new mo cartoon in your email.
Posted by: FREE at February 14, 2008 4:10 PMOH-MY-GOD!!!
When Kinsella read this I can hear it already.
First KM wants to put all indians into residential schools and now she wants everyone else to starve to teach them a lesson.
Next she will want all politicians who don't worship at the shrine of Global Warming thrown in jail---opps--Suzucki already said that.
Horny Toad
Posted by: Horny Toad at February 14, 2008 4:13 PMI went and read his blog, he is blowing a kanooter valve. Nothing is more pathetic, nor comical, than watching a man whine over having his ass kicked to the curb by a woman, that is intellectually superior.
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 14, 2008 4:13 PMBio-fuel... sorta like burning the groceries to keep warm.
If famine were to come about, and it is not impossible, it may be caused by the very leftard moonbats that Kate is always exposing,
What was that Quote by old uncle Maurice Strong.
It's a shame more people don't die from diphtheria, then we wouldn't have to listen to people complain about second hand smoke, the dangers posed by peanut butter to children with allergies, and all sorts of other minor stuff that people dying from diphtheria didn't have the luxury to worry about.
Ahh... better days, where have ye gone?
Posted by: Arthur A at February 14, 2008 4:14 PM"Art, on behalf of myself alone, I'd like to thank you for personifying absolutely everything Kate spoke about in here article."
Well - now that Art has taken his ball and gone home, isn't it interesting how he was pontificating at Kate's supposed "whining" then he ends up "whining" because we won't roll over and see the world from the socialist latte-sipping, gourmet market shopping, Toronto Star reading point of view.
I wonder if he will attempt to pontificate over at the NP comments.
Posted by: Alberta Girl at February 14, 2008 4:17 PMI think the national post should hire Kate as an investigative reporter. Give her own tv show. She got what it takes to bring the truth to the Canadian public. She has the ability to hit the nail on the head every time.
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 14, 2008 4:18 PMIt just occurred to me.
Kinsella gets turfed from the NP and then have his two most hated bloggers(and female at that)follow that with columns.
OH, HOW THAT MUST HURT!!
Posted by: Horny Toad at February 14, 2008 4:18 PMKate - wonderful writing! Common sense is so refreshing. Hope to see more of your writing in the paper in the future.
Posted by: Barbara at February 14, 2008 4:19 PMIt is like poetic justice. Kinswilsueya over there calling Kate and Kathy nazi's, and insuiating Kate had romantic desires for him. I don't know Kate, but I assume she is more interested in manly men, than whining windbags.
It is interesting, and somewhat ghoulish, watching him shortening the rope in which he will hang himself.
Well done, Kate! Excellent column. You've gone 'mainstream' - let's hope it's a regular occurrence.
Posted by: JR at February 14, 2008 4:27 PMGo over and post a comment on her article at the np. Let them know we want her as a regular feature. We need to get the message out in the msm. The silent majority, the everyday Canadian, need to know that they have someone speaking for them.
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 14, 2008 4:29 PMCongratulations Kate,
I hear thunderous clapping from all the graves of those Canadian Veterans struck down in mortal combat to save Canada and the free world from tyranny and oppression.They had,and still have,in spades, the values you espouse so eloquently in your article in the National Post.
Thank you,
James.
Kate You rock.
Hey! There's an elephant in the room.
The emperor has no clothes.
Plain as the nose on your face.
Beautiful...
Kudos to Jim for posting the daftest post on this board.
"A thought - back in the 1890's weak, stupid people did not emigrate west."
Historically, smart settled people did not migrate. Stupid ones with no prospects in their homelands did. The immigrants who came here from Britain in the initial stages were hardly the cream of the crop.
The trend has changed somewhat since the 1960s with the removal of racial barriers and the presence of large skilled labor markets abroad. Of course in the 1890s that was not the case. At that time engineers generally didnt migrate. Laborers did.
The pioneers were not people who were adventurous. They had reached that point where they had nothing to lose. Hardly makes them smart or strong.
Kudos to the rest of you for proving this article right.
Theres a lot of you whining right now. Just read your own messages. Whining about whiners is also whining. The irony of it all.
Posted by: whiner at February 14, 2008 4:45 PMWe're not whining, we're laughing and celebrating Kate's success. Being a lefty you wouldn't understand that, laughing and success.
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 14, 2008 4:50 PMWell wasn't that interesting.
Well quite frankly I have no problem with how you live your life. If you want to smoke your cigs enclosed in your car, then by all means go for it. While you’re at it please don't pollute my air with your stench and I won’t have to take a dump on your lawn.
No helmet on the motorcycle? Enjoy it, have fun.
If the kids of right wing parents want to throw rocks each other, shoot each other with guns or even use the hockey helmet as a goal post rather than cranial protection, then that’s just fine.
In fact, I encourage all conservative minded people to ignore the rules and take more risks. Speed on icy roads, smoke you cigarettes in the car with your conservative kids, and refuse to abide by fire and safety codes. Better yet, do everything while drinking your Red Weasel Whiskey or whatever conservatives usually like to get drunk on. It adds to the risk.
By taking that extra risk you’ll be doing the world a favour. Quite honestly, the sooner conservatives kill themselves off the better the world will be.
Have another cigarette and get a nice juicy lung tumour for the sake of humanity.
How do you BBQ a Schnauzer anyway?
Kate
Would you take offence if I said,
"Kinsalla has been bitch slaped".
Posted by: Shawn at February 14, 2008 4:53 PM"By "famine", I do not mean those 24-hour fruit-juice-sipping adventures in group narcissism devoted to curing the problems of that continent-wide parade of dysfunction known as "Africa.""
My my Kate. I didnt know you thought of yourself as an expert on Africa. I bet you ve never even been there, which leaves any sane person wondering how you can claim the credibility to make that statement.
Your sycophants here wont challenge you on it, but dont go around saying it to people you dont know. They might call you on it. And given the obvious surpressed rage behind saying something so pointlessly provocative, I dont think you would be able to handle the way they would laugh in your face before telling you to shut up.
And that "shut up" isnt a tacit admission of how correct you are. Its the kind of "shut up" you direct at a dog whose barking just gets plain annoying. What its trying to convey is generally not even considered.
The stuff you put here isnt going to get you far in the real world. Some people out there actually know what they are talking about. I hope you dont run into them.
Posted by: sput at February 14, 2008 4:58 PM[quote]In the haste to remove the menace of second-hand smoke from public places, society had fallen victim to the law of unintended consequences. A caller to Saskatchewan talk radio said it best, explaining why smokers should be allowed no closer than 50 feet from the entrance of any establishment.
"They stand right next to the doors. When I walk past them, I have to hold my breath". Oh, the humanity.[/quote]
This Smoking fact was a buried blip in AZ
"A recent Dutch Study found that the Public doesn't save money on Health care by preventing Obesity or SMOKING. Thin non-smokers live longer and account for more medical Expenses in the long run"
A "honest" Lawyer & an "International" Court of Law may be required to re-establish Smokers Rights. The Profiters are the Anti-Smoking gangsters... Billions in Damages
Posted by: Phillip G.Shaw at February 14, 2008 5:02 PMCongratulations, Kate. You have a very unusual (in the good sense) voice and it deserves to be heard.
Hope they will grant more column space to you in the future.
Posted by: Jan at February 14, 2008 5:02 PMlibforlife, arther and others from Kinsella's group:
You are totally misunderstanding the nature of the conservative perspective; it isn't in favour of 'smoking cigs enclosed in your car'; riding without a helmet; etc. It is in favour of the INDIVIDUAL taking more responsibility for themselves, rather than acting as a perpetual five year old and relying on Big Government to tell him/her how to be responsible.
It isn't about a desire to 'speed on icy roads'; it's about being adult and taking self-responsibility NOT to speed on icy roads, rather than only doing/not doing something when Big Government says you may/may not.
It's about THINKING responsibly. People who rely on Big Government to tell them what to do and how to do it, remain children.
whiner - could you provide some proof that only the dumb migrated? That's interesting; I wonder how these dumb people managed to build the railways, the roads, develop towns and villages, plant crops that could withstand the Canadian winters and so on. You don't think this took brains and being courageous?
Was it only the dumb who migrated to the US as well? That's interesting - their Declaration of Independence was created by dumb people? Hmmm?
Posted by: ET at February 14, 2008 5:02 PMKate McMillan/the new Barbara Amiel ?
Posted by: Western Canadian at February 14, 2008 5:09 PMwhiner wrote:
"Historically, smart settled people did not migrate. Stupid ones with no prospects in their homelands did. The immigrants who came here from Britain in the initial stages were hardly the cream of the crop."
Yeah, like all of those stupid Irish people, who stupidly allowed their English landlords to starve them off their land by taking as rent every crop grown except the potatoes which rotted in the bin due to blight. They stupidly bumbled here to Canada, and the USA, and stupidly built a life for themselves in the midst of similar prejudice (eg: "No dogs, no Irish) until their stupid descendants eventually became presidents, prime-ministers, captains of industry, professors, and Warren Kinsella. Hmmm.... well, I will acknowledge that some were probably stupid. Or at least drank heavily while pregnant.
Or those lame-brained Scots who were so stupid as to be forced off their land by their landlords, and who managed to keep breathing (through their mouthes no doubt) for long enough to emigrate to North America, where they fell ass first into the business of building a country or two.
Or my own absolutely dim witted great great grandfather, who left Denmark a decorated veteran of a lost war with Germany. Somehow despite his stupidity he managed to clear land in New Brunswick, and start a new life for him and his family. He stupidly survived a scarlet fever epidemic, near starvation, and grinding poverty. In fact, he was so stupid as to dig up his potato seed one year so that he and his family could eat. He died in his late 40's in a tragic tobogganing accident. Oh wait, I guess it was actually diabetes.
Yes, that's right, he managed to do all of this in the 1870's and 1880's, with diabetes. Today his descendants number in the hundreds, and are successful and proud Canadians.
Whiner, you would dare to call this man, one of my heroes stupid? You show yourself to be the stupid one if that is what you think. Maybe your ancestors were stupid. (Actually, it seems rather plausible.) But in the future, please only speak for yours.
Posted by: Karl at February 14, 2008 5:18 PMBy taking that extra risk you’ll be doing the world a favour. Quite honestly, the sooner conservatives kill themselves off the better the world will be.
Yup. And if we took the warning labels off every thing we could get rid of a few leftards too
Posted by: orvict at February 14, 2008 5:27 PM"By "famine", I do not mean those 24-hour fruit-juice-sipping adventures in group narcissism devoted to curing the problems of that continent-wide parade of dysfunction known as "Africa.""
My my Kate. I didnt know you thought of yourself as an expert on Africa. I bet you ve never even been there, which leaves any sane person wondering how you can claim the credibility to make that statement.
Your sycophants here wont challenge you on it, but dont go around saying it to people you dont know. They might call you on it. And given the obvious surpressed rage behind saying something so pointlessly provocative, I dont think you would be able to handle the way they would laugh in your face before telling you to shut up.
And that "shut up" isnt a tacit admission of how correct you are. Its the kind of "shut up" you direct at a dog whose barking just gets plain annoying. What its trying to convey is generally not even considered.
The stuff you put here isnt going to get you far in the real world. Some people out there actually know what they are talking about. I hope you dont run into them
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. Well sput you now have the floor. Educate us all how Africa is such a success story. Zimbawa,South Africa,Sudan,Kenya,Simolia. I’ll let you carry on from here.
Posted by: Shawn at February 14, 2008 5:29 PMET, it was the eeeevile people who went to the USA. The dumb people came to Canada.
There's no point talking to these morons, they and their brothers in arms are the ones running around putting booties on the wild deer so their little feetsies won't get cold... as they strip every edible leaf, bud and piece of bark from the forest.
Shoot a few deer? Monstrous!
Posted by: The Phantom at February 14, 2008 5:36 PMYet another example of John Daly demonstrating that the does not have a life, or a brain, and can barely read. His joke of a blogg is seldom, if ever, visited - expect by brain-dead leftards, and when he link-whores, in his pathetic two-bit way.
But, at least, John Daly is good for a laugh - but most laughing stocks are. Here’s laughing at ya, Johnnie-boy! Come around again and make an even bigger fool out of yourself.
Excellent piece Kate
How are we goin'a keep ya down on the farm now that you've seen T.O.?
[quote]The stuff you put here isnt going to get you far in the real world. Some people out there actually know what they are talking about.[/quote]
Spud,
What world would you be talking about? Most of the drivel I have read on this forum comes from Half-Baked socialists communicating, obviously, with one ear stuck on the "Big White Phone" aka Urinal. Spin is Spin and a source is a source.
Posted by: Phillip G. Shaw at February 14, 2008 6:01 PM
"The stuff you put here isn't going to get you far in the real world."
Seems to me, she's doing pretty good in that real world place.
Cheers,
lance
Since John brought up Africa this is the latest out of Africa, the Arabs are raping and killing women and children again. See John some of us know what's going on in the Horn of Africa it's called genocide. Arabs from the Sudan (paid for by China, Saudi Arabia,Russia and France) known as the Janjaweed invade Africa for it's riches, sanctioned by the above free nations, and kill and maim women and children and men in the name of Wahhabi Islam.
Latest news: http://africa.reuters.com/wire/news/usnMCD258659.html
Snippet: They killed my husband," said Kultoum Abdallah, 30, left without a home or breadwinner to care for her three children.
"I have nothing to eat, what should I do?" she pleaded, breaking into sobs and hiding her face in her bright blue robe. She spent two days in the bush after militias on horse and camelback looted, raped and burned.
Local leader Abakr Suleiman Ibrahim said 10 girls were raped by militiamen, one as young as 10 years old. He estimated that 3,000 people were missing
This is what's happening in Africa John, don't blame Kate blame the Arabs and China and Russia and France.
Posted by: Rose at February 14, 2008 6:08 PMExcellent, Kate! Love it. And the comments from the semi-literate leftards (you know who you are...lberia, art, john daly and company) in this thread just make the experience more satisfying. Nothing like a pissy, whiny leftard who knows he's been owned and is crying in his beer to cheer up a hard working boy after a long day at work.
Posted by: Caveman at February 14, 2008 6:10 PMKate: the Sask. Canns are relatives of mine on my Dad's mother's side of the family.
Interestingly, the Canns that survived the hazards of pioneer life all manged to live to ripe old ages...and so did their relatives on my Dad's side...I remember when I was a kid our family reunions were thick with older people in their 80s and 90s....living over 100 was common on Granny's side of the family...and they did it all without the benefits of big pharma with their mercury/carcinogen laced vaccines for everything from the sniffles to Lady's lament, or without the benefit of splicing animal genes into foods for enhanced visual marketability or ease of corporate cropping or the public health care system and it's many perils...or the multitude of chemical we contact in modern industrial work...fresh air, hard work, real food and few excesses....living free without chemistry...they did just fine netter than my dad's and my generation for being aliment free in their old age.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 14, 2008 6:12 PMGreat comments Kate and so true. The only thing I would add is that I do not care what stupid or nutty ideas some may have, as long as they mind their own business. The problem we have are all the control zealots inside and outside of governments, determined to impose their beliefs on everyone else.
If we respected private property rights (and this also applies to the Americans), then we would not see all the smoking bans. It should be the owner of the building, business or establishment to decide if he or she will allow smoking or a smoking area. Those opposed to smoking have the right to go elsewhere or to open a completely non smoking establishment. The same applies to deciding what we eat and everything else. But there is no end to those screaming there must be a law, as you put it so well, and politicians going along.
The truth is that once freedom has been lost it is just about impossible to retrieve it.
Posted by: Alain at February 14, 2008 6:16 PMAnd I note that this is the #1 most e-mailed article at the National Post today, and also currently the third most read.
Congrats, Kate. That will be noticed.
Posted by: Kevin Jaeger at February 14, 2008 6:21 PMWill there be a rebuttal or debate with Naomi Klein on the horizon? Apoplexy all round in Dipperland over this I'm sure,and Stephen Lewis's head just blew off.
Posted by: Sammy at February 14, 2008 6:22 PMMy wife had first dibs to read the Post this morning. I was biding my time reading the woes of the Canucks in the VCR Sun and she was laughing uproarously reading the article by Kate. "Have you ever heard of Small Dead...? What? You must be kidding. My turn honey..... What a Valentine Day's surprise. Thanks Kate and great delivery.
My guess is WK is begging his way around T.O. looking for an op-ed space for rebuttal in one of the Red papers that plague the T.O. area.
whoa ho, over 200 posts in this thread?
gonna break that other thread record!
BTW, does pen lettering on an arm even resemble a 50+ yr old tattoo?
Posted by: puddin and pie at February 14, 2008 6:44 PM(A response to Karl that I wish to share here, my peaceful brothers and sisters...)
I gotta tell you Karl, I've done my share of case-making on forums and chat hang outs. The huge challenge, one that is very rarely overcome, is that like a lot of dime store lawyers, we can never agree to what a "fact" is and which "fact" is the objectively correct "fact"...
It depends on what the meaning of is is, right? Honest to God I am not trying to be a jerk off about this, I sense a certain amount of sincerity in your writing.
Forget, for a second, that I used the word "bigot" to describe Kate McMillan. Focus on this criticism: she goes out her way to find information that tends to portray Muslims in the worst light. Now...is that ad hominem? Is that statement wrong? I wrote that she is making a kind of negative contribution by insisting on pointing to stuff that will fuel and worsen the existing conflicts.
That is for sure not the same as saying I like radical pr--ks with pillow cases over their heads sawing off the heads of hostages somewhere in Baghdad. I don't! But I do not, I refuse at this time, to associate that behaviour with the religion Islam. Al Zawquari was a cold blooded pathological killer. His religion was beside the point.
I have found lots of evidence that my Muslim neighbours are just fine. Why should I disbelieve what is in front of me in favour of fearing an attack that has not yet happened?
It's going on seven years since 911. How many terrorist attacks in Canada? How many Afghanis killed by Canadian soldiers on their soil?
So who is the aggressor? And if it's your brother and sister, mother or father, son or daughter (and most of the folks at SDA will simply not cop to this or deal with it...) what would YOU do?
We are creating potential enemies in the Muslim world. I read Kate's piece in the Post. It was well written but absolutely uninspired. Just more of the same. The pot calling the kettle black. Kate bitching and moaning about other people bitching and moaning. What's that good for?
Posted by: John Daly at February 14, 2008 7:02 PMBravo. And thankyou for writing what I've been feeling for years. You said it so much better than I could have. Bravo again, madame.
Posted by: Steve in Edmonton at February 14, 2008 7:08 PMBrava, Kate! I read your article this morning, and loved it. And the irony that, finally, you're getting a national hearing in our MSM.
It's about time.
Well-done--and keep it up!
Posted by: 'been around the block at February 14, 2008 7:11 PMLibforlife,
"the sooner conservatives kill themselves off the better the world will be"
Problem if we die off you starve to death because you and kind are parasitic in nature, create nothing and leech from those of us who actually create something.
Now if you and your ilk would die the world would be as it should be.
I can just imagine it now no more blood suckers......... ahhhhhhhhhh
Posted by: claude at February 14, 2008 7:14 PMYa did it, John Daly! Ya made an even bigger fool out of yourself; well done (predicable as it was).
Look at the drivel he spewed at 2:10 pm, and that in his latest diatribe at 7:02 pm. In the latter, he is actually asking us to ignore what he has written – but then he drops even more of his drivel. Ya think you’re Suzuki, Johnnie-boy? Ya taking lessons from the Fruit Fly Guy, Johnnie-boy?
Johnnie-boy says, ‘Just more of the same. The pot calling the kettle black. Kate bitching and moaning about other people bitching and moaning. What's that good for?’ Here we have just more of the same bitching and moaning from Johnnie-boy. You are becoming tedious, Johnnie-boy; but still good for a laugh. I am sure you have no idea of how silly you look.
BTW, you cannot take anything John Daly says at face value; he could mess up reading his own name (he is really not very bright). If you keep in mind that he is either or both stupid and dishonest you can have a laugh at the twaddle he dumps. Here’s laughing at ya’ Johnnie-boy!
I thought all Conservative women like Kate and Kathy were supposedly barefoot and pregnant?
Where did you gals find the time to get educated to write such wonderful pieces?
I thought all smart, educated women were Liberals?
Warren's friends must be saying "Dat's not Fair!"
Posted by: Glenn at February 14, 2008 7:32 PMCatherine with a C, I agree with your post too.You did a great job articulating what needs to be said and heard.
Good job on revealing the energy behind the socialistic nanny state mentality. Laws won't change the human heart.
But what I find truly amazing is what has taken place in a week! WK leaves the NP, and Kate(with a K) and Kathy are in there so quickly! Seems to me there must have been some 'discussions' ahead of the big sting.Who knew?
I'm lovin' it!
Kate's Like a snow ball pickin' up speed
The leftards are stumbling all over themselves. trying to get out of the way.
Go Kate Go.
A Hat Trick:
Kathy Shaidle in the National Post this week.
Kate McMillan in the National Post this week.
Stephen Taylor, this week, exposes the Librano fundraiser coming up tomorrow night for the illegal try-to-get-under-Elections-Canada-radar it is (http://www.stephentaylor.ca/): Liberals back down from fundraiser, choose to follow the law...after being caught).
What a great feeling! Aslan is definitely on the move.
So say