At a rally in College Park, MD, this week, Obama seized the mantle of “hopemonger,” in contrast to those other “mongers” out there. He then proceeded, through three separate stanzas about global warming, to reveal he is also a warmmonger. Apparently, climate change is yet another “change we can believe in.”Posted by Kate at February 14, 2008 6:46 PMFor someone who pitches himself as a sainted outsider determined to bring revelatory change to our national politics, Obama’s prescriptions sure sound like tired old inside-the-Beltway nostrums — foretelling impending disaster that only various governmental interventions in the economy can mitigate.
One of his money lines was “we are going to spend billions of dollars on solar, wind, and biodiesel.” Yes. It's criminal that we haven't done that yet.
The details of how those billions would be spent were less amusing: “We will hire young people who don't have a trade and give them a trade making homes more energy efficient, insulating homes, changing light bulbs, reducing our dependence on dirty power plants.” So, the idealistic, modern-day version of the “ask not what your country can do for you” consists of telling slackers that the government will provide windmill and lightbulb-changing jobs after graduation?
That’s not Camelot; it’s the New Deal.
Hey, that means there is employment hope beyond "would you like fries with that" for all the Sociology and English Lit grads who are expert in Victimization Studies or the use of the apostrophe in pre-Victorian short stories.
Should drive up the enrollment in those faculties.
“We will hire young people who don't have a trade and give them a trade making homes more energy efficient, insulating homes, changing light bulbs. . .
Sounds downright Mao-ish.
Besides, I'm all snuggly safe and secure now that Nessie's dead.
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at February 14, 2008 7:21 PMGee, the guy hasn't even won the nomination and he's already proposed his first major boondoggle. Talk about your over achievers! No wonder the Dems love this guy!
Posted by: The Phantom at February 14, 2008 7:27 PMAnd why not hire the little pukes? They mostly all believe in the AGW ponzi scheme,so now they can donate their paychecks to the Goracle. Sounds like a win-win to me. No wonder Glenn Beck was saying that if the Dems get in,it will be Mexico and Canada demanding the walls,to keep out all the Yanks looking for decent jobs!
Posted by: Justthinkin at February 14, 2008 7:47 PMRead Liberal Fascism, essential background reading up to the November election. And that's an order!
Is it wave #4 of American Fascism? [Progressivism, New Deal, 60s/JFK/LBJ, Magic Negro? ....]
Check out this hushed up Obama stunt to apply a "global poverty tax" on the US.
And finally check out David Frum's warming about the coming Dem sea-change.
I'd advise being "very scared" except that word has been denuded of of all meaning.
Ya Hoo! I'm moving to the US where there is 'hope' galore and Trudeau reincarnate is born!!
Posted by: Sounder at February 14, 2008 7:58 PMHe sounds like the old Monty python skit, "How to Do It", all breathless and gushing platitudes.
Maybe the Dems had better reconsider their choice.
Camelot on magic mushrooms.
Posted by: dmorris at February 14, 2008 7:58 PMMe No Dhimmi: already read it and yes, Obama (and I'm afraid it will be President Obama) is nothing more than a Fascist with a smiley face. What the communists failed to learn, the fascists learned perfectly. Be prepared for a new era of forced thinking and behavior. The only difference is that this time, if you fail to comply, you will not be loaded onto a boxcar, you will be labeled appropriately and sent to re-education, i.e. therapy a-la Oprah/Dr. Phil.
The future of the only shining city on the hill (America) left, hinges on this election.
If McCain doesn't win, America, BEND OVER AND GET READY TO TAKE IT UP THE.....
Posted by: Doug at February 14, 2008 8:18 PMDidn't Mussolini give jobs to unemployed youth digging ditches?
Posted by: James at February 14, 2008 8:30 PM"If McCain doesn't win,...." America will be bankrupt, in more ways than one.
Posted by: Sounder at February 14, 2008 8:40 PMFrankly - as someone working in the energy business I am more than a little alarmed by Sen. Obama's reported committment to both the woeful emissions cap policy AND his intention to raise these billions from "fines" levied on the polluters ?
Well if the 'pollution' is CO2 and methane, and emitters of these are to be fined as punishment - not taxed as a disincentive - where does that end ? 300 million Americans exhale CO2 every day - are they all to be fined too ? And their cars and cows ? How about the govt itself - whose military forces are massive emitters ??
He is either remarkably uninformed or brace yourself America for universal punishment of your universal crimes ??
Posted by: Kev of Sydney at February 14, 2008 8:41 PMThis is no time for the US to pick a starry-eyed rookie as President.
A US bond auction today failed to auction off 80% of the bonds.
That's bonds for building, maintenance of small items like roads, hospitals, and all those other good govt necessities.
As well, there's still another estimated $250 bil to $400 billion of Asset Backed Commerial Paper (more commonly known as Worthless Paper) to be discovered.
Some (much?) is in Japan's banks.
It is the Year of the Rat in China.
But it's the Year of the Dropping Shoe in the world financial markets.
It's not even the New Deal which was a real response to a real crisis.
Note to Mr Obama: you, sir, are no FDR.
Posted by: JJM at February 14, 2008 9:17 PMHey, I lived through the Carter administration. If the peanut farmer himself couldn't kill the USA, this Obama guy's going to have to WORK for it.
Posted by: The Phantom at February 14, 2008 9:23 PMMonty Python - How To Do It:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNfGyIW7aHM
In my trade, refrigeration and air conditioning, there has been a distinct hesitation to get involved in installing things like ground source heat pumps. Most installers don't know how they work. It actually helps when you are trying to sell them, because you don't have to develop the additional skill of being a convincing liar.
I would guess that 1/3 of the installations in my area don't work. Don't work ranging from they don't save any energy to they don't heat the house when the outside temperature is near heating design temperature. The rest are marginal, with a few good installations. Almost every project where engineers have designed systems to save energy have been unadulterated snake oil. The only reason why there aren't any lawsuits is because the lawyers can't figure these systems out either.
Somehow the idea that uneducated, untrained people are going to save the nation by fixing energy waste is at best naive, at worst shows a serious ignorance of the problem.
All I can say is good luck. The US will take a generation to clean up the mess. Remember urea-formaldehyde.
Derek
Posted by: dkite at February 14, 2008 9:54 PMTime to invest in those industries that supply the raw materials that go into making US currency.
Shredded dollar bills have quite a high R-value, don't they?
Posted by: Shaken at February 14, 2008 10:04 PMBingo!
Posted by: OMMAG at February 14, 2008 10:14 PMdkite
"""""Somehow the idea that uneducated, untrained people are going to save the nation by fixing energy waste is at best naive, at worst shows a serious ignorance of the problem"""""
ignorance is not restricted only to your "trade", it abounds in most technical areas, and it is getting worst as the "technical" is getting more complex!!!
"That’s not Camelot; it’s the New Deal."
Ah, the "New Deal," which was actually a BAD deal. Invariably lost in the misty water-colored memories of FDR and "Happy Days are Here (Queer?) Again" is that FDR's so-called "deal" didn't pull the U.S. out of the Depression. In not a few respects, the New Deal actually made things worse. Nope, full recovery finally resulted from our massive spending for the war effort against the Axis. But, hey, don't tell that to the Democrats--they'll just plug their ears and do the "LA-LA-LA" act.
Seems to me Obama's vision of "change" amounts to ideologically-inspired solutions in search of politically-expedient problems. Gosh, just what we need in our time of tribulation:
Barack Delano Obamavelt.
Posted by: MarkJ at February 14, 2008 10:42 PMNEWS FLASH A SUDDEN HEAT WAVE SETTLES WHERE EVER BARACK OBAMA AND AL GORE STAY
Posted by: spurwing plover at February 14, 2008 10:55 PMIf a President Obama does turn out to be the triumph of style versus substance (i.e. the economic, political and national security malaise of a Jimmy Carter with better uplifting rhetoric) I wonder if Dems would be forced to look fondly at George "Worst. President. Ever." Bush.
Nah...their head's would explode.
I agree with an earlier poster that if the US could survive Carter, it would survive Obama.
Perhaps, but remember what those Iranians did since Jimmy dropped the ball on his watch...
Posted by: Dave at February 14, 2008 11:30 PMThanks for the honest posting and comments. It's always a little startling when your neighbor sees things more clearly than you do.
Posted by: Ken Mueller at February 15, 2008 12:06 AMVit, i think the future lays for Koyoto types at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn8Pua5rhj4&feature=related
Posted by: tomax7 at February 15, 2008 12:15 AMWhat are the warmists going to say if the next number on the following list goes negative?
2007 1 0.8314
2007 2 0.6254
2007 3 0.6077
2007 4 0.6728
2007 5 0.5261
2007 6 0.5078
2007 7 0.4676
2007 8 0.4685
2007 9 0.5289
2007 10 0.4991
2007 11 0.4484
2007 12 0.3975
2008 1 0.1793
this list is the anomaly from the 1979-2000 mean for world temperature.
Will the february number go up or down. 13 months in a row the temp has been going down. All the forcings except CO2 levels have been going down. When they tell us that the Arctic is melting they are living in the past. The west coast of Greenland has the most ice in 15 years.
The position of the warmists has been collapsing since before 2007 but the speed is picking up with more research and more data coming on stream..
The switch to global cooling will cause the politicians to redirect their focus away from Carbon dioxide. To how they are going to feed their people if cold weather reduces crop production in the Northern Hemisphere.
Warm weather Can help increase crop production but cold weather can cause massive loss of not just grains but many crops.
Look what the cold has produced in Afganistan.Something like 20,000 cattle died in the snow, they don't even know how many Afganis have perished due to the cold and snow. If the cold was not all over the place, except in Europe and the North East the warmist might get away with saying cold is a result of the warming, but when La Nina is spred across the pacific, China, Russia, Canada all experiencing the coldest winter in over 15 years, Solar outputis at a very low level, and all the wrmists have is increased CO2 and greenhouse gases.
Has the price of grain really gone as high as they say? I know about the food to fuel programe but is there really that much of a shortage of grains that one bad growing season could cause a lot to starve.
When the cost of the winter of 2008 gets added up there are going to be a lot of raised eyebrows and it will be from the almost world wide cold.
Obama is a flash in the pan, I think the Democrats are going to lose another one..... unbelievable....It should be like shooting fish in a barrel after all the fuss they made about Bush, I think it shows how hollow the left really is, take away the left leaning press and there is nothing there.
Posted by: bob at February 15, 2008 12:34 AMYes, I can see it now. Graduate students entering five year study programs only to emerge with a PHD in Changing Light Bulbs!
Posted by: a different Bob at February 15, 2008 9:55 AMDerek, ground source heat pumps are a tricky system to design. They should not be used alone for heating if;
the house is poorly insulated
the temperate zone is cold (any CDN border state)
the ground/soil is rocky, sandy, dry
etc.
A contractor should not be left alone to design/install these systems. MUnicipal/state/prov govt's should be involved in certifying the installer and inspecting the installation.
A qualified engineer helps too. :-}
Posted by: puddin and pie at February 15, 2008 10:11 AMDerek, the problem with domestic ground source heating systems is not in the technology it is in the highschool dropouts that the contractors hire to install them. Here in BC the government doesn't mandate a qualification certificate for carpenters, as a result any doofus can show up on a construction site with hammer on his hip and he's a carpenter. Contractors don't want to hire skilled help they only want the cheapest labour they can buy. Problem is that Joe Q. Public gets screwed in the long run. Unskilled labour building homes and infrastucture, government inspectors moved into private industry with little or no legal means to penalize unscrupulous builders and developers, trade unions that did not pick up the slack when governments failed the apprenticeship programs and the public don't see any of this. The result is 'leaky' condo syndrome on the 'Wet' Coast, sky high heating bills on the prairies, mass emmigration from the Maritimes to Alberta chasing employment. I've ranted enough! Time for a break.
Posted by: Antenor at February 15, 2008 11:40 AMObama is simply a charismatic orator -- Voting for charisma is a dangerous thing -- when one sees it, it augurs poorly for the future. I am thinking that a deflationary period with associated hard times is coming -- a sort of way to clean out the system.
Societal attitudes have become complacent.
Mysticism, superstition, and moral equivalence have become common.
Easy credit and unrealisic expectations have created conditions ripe for a collapse of sorts.
I hope I am wrong, but I am deleveraging, building up cash, but keeping a few natural gas stocks in my investments -- obviously, I don't believe in runaway global warming.
We're doomed to suffer the consequences of one of these clowns (Obama or McCain), since both are on the "we gotta do our part about global warming" bandwagon. This will likely get pretty expensive before it becomes painfully obvious to the masses that they have been duped.
Posted by: Ol'Grey at February 15, 2008 2:19 PM