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February 10, 2008

Enriching Their Folklore

It's on days like today, with the mercury dropping and a blizzard blowing in, that an urge comes over me to visit the garage and spend a little time with a sleeping Aretha.


(From better times).

After all, we share a few secrets.

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Posted by Kate at February 10, 2008 4:59 PM
Comments

I don't get the point of the post, but... nice "Terminator" photo, Kate...

Posted by: The Canadian Sentinel at February 10, 2008 5:01 PM

Keep her on the road Kate!

Posted by: Orlin at February 10, 2008 5:18 PM

Kate,

Do you know why men love women in leather?
Because the smell like a new truck.

:0)

Posted by: John West at February 10, 2008 5:19 PM

If you don't get it, troll over to Kinsella's place...It took me a few minutes.

Posted by: Wonder Woman at February 10, 2008 5:25 PM

I read your biker chronicles before I read the political blog.
4Y3-00076-hmmm, you have the same ser# as your wheat permit book, maybe, maybe not. I am stumped also.
My trusty old Honda sits in a winter wasteland waiting for the onslaught of global warning so I can unleash its ancient Asian technology on the bumpy roads of Alberta.

http://silverwinger.blogspot.com/

I need some hits, what can I say.
Silverwinger

Posted by: Silverwinger at February 10, 2008 5:36 PM

Please tell me you didnt photoshop that?

Mischief Indeed!

Posted by: Stephen at February 10, 2008 5:39 PM

Wonder Woman is on to something - the Cad may indeed be had.

Posted by: Blazingcatfur at February 10, 2008 5:49 PM

Two minutes on Google Image search would have prevented the liar Kinsella from being:

P'ownd

Posted by: Jay Currie at February 10, 2008 5:50 PM

I got smoked by one of the bikes years ago (I was on my 500 cc Honda). Mind you, the other rider was better too.

Posted by: John B at February 10, 2008 5:52 PM

If I understand this correctly, this is, to paraphrase a paraphrase, hilarity on stilts.

Tweaking the tweakers has long been a favorite pasttime of mine as well.

Posted by: Yukon Gold at February 10, 2008 5:52 PM

that is going to leave a mark

Posted by: jwp at February 10, 2008 5:53 PM

Kate, you're looking way too hot...expect Kinsella to start stalking you agaion...

Posted by: Bruce at February 10, 2008 6:10 PM

TATTOOS AND NUMBERS: THE SYSTEM OF IDENTIFYING PRISONERS AT AUSCHWITZ

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007056

Identification in Nazi camps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_in_Nazi_camps

Posted by: lberia at February 10, 2008 6:18 PM

Don’t tell me, that’s Trudeau’s famous Wasser-Boy bike.

Posted by: Bernie at February 10, 2008 6:19 PM

Naughty, naughty! LOL!

Posted by: Soccermom at February 10, 2008 6:27 PM

I was out in my garage this afternoon tinkering my 1967 Mercury Cougar XR7. Kate, I know how you feel today.

Posted by: Trent at February 10, 2008 6:27 PM

well done kate mcmillan...the best jeu d'esprit i can remember....it was neat effective and not gaudy....i think you've proven beyond any doubt what a gullible easily led suggestible manipulable predictable impetuous fourth rate pantaloon our friend Warman Kinsella is....

....how i pity the CJC.....but i reckon Ezra will be highly amused......it's just so fitting somehow....poetic...it has balance and appropriateness and delicious irony beyond telling...

....mind you, the phone number off a minor hockey arena public convenience stall door might have been a titch funnier....mebbe you could try that tomorrow...he's so bemused with himself he'd fall for it twice...

Posted by: john begley at February 10, 2008 6:37 PM

So that was you at the Kings Crew christmas party.

Posted by: doug at February 10, 2008 6:38 PM

Absolutely brilliant! This is gonna be a blogger classic.

Posted by: Rick in BC at February 10, 2008 6:44 PM

You thought 45 minutes, Kate. It only took 26... Smart crew around here...

Posted by: The Greek at February 10, 2008 6:50 PM

PWNED!!!


an instant classic.

Posted by: Me (on a stick) at February 10, 2008 7:00 PM

Cant really tell from the pic if that is an RD or RZ. You don't see many around anymore. Probably the most fun bike I've ever had.

I used to beat a lot of bigger bikes on it. I didn't realize it also beats a Kinsella quite handily.

Truly a thing of beauty.

Posted by: ward at February 10, 2008 7:06 PM

I can only shake my head at his imaginary world of evil Neo Nazis ( aka stupid white men in garages or basements), anyone could of penciled or felt markered in a serial number on their arm.

I thought the tattooed serial numbers were placed cross wise across the wrist not up the arm? Am I wrong?

Posted by: Rose at February 10, 2008 7:08 PM

Rd, liquid cooled. But you saw that.

Posted by: Kate at February 10, 2008 7:18 PM

Well, I finally figured it out, but only with Wonder Woman's pointing to Kinsella. Whew! Really worried there for a few minutes. From the get-go, I've been challenged by Kate's sometimes obtuse -- but always hilarious -- thread constructions. In fact, I have a very smart [but perhaps even more linear than moi] friend who I keep pointing to sda and he always complains about being lost! I've even sent him some threads with sda lessons! And Shaidle -- he just doesn't get at all.

Well, Kate, "rode her hard and put her away wet today". Vancouver up to Squamish (squeamish) for a StarBucks on my Yammie FJR1300. Heavy but she pulls Gs! Sunny leaving, then rain at Squamish, then pouring rain leaving, then 10C and blue skies back in Vancouver.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at February 10, 2008 7:20 PM

Well, Kate McMillan on a motorbike.

The definitive riposte to global-warming econuts and the Suzuki fascists!

Memo to Al Gore et al.: stuff your crappy Prius where the sun don't shine.

And Kate likes "min schnaus" too so she's doubly worthy in my books.

Posted by: JJM at February 10, 2008 7:33 PM

This hack is going to go down in blogging history.

Absolutely brilliant.

Posted by: Lance at February 10, 2008 7:36 PM

Me, I ride Italian metal, a '73 Moto Guzzi Eldorado. But I've never thought of tattooing the VIN on my arm. I wonder why Kinsella wanted to post yours on his website? I'm especially puzzled as to why he would be "honoured" to have your VIN on his page. I'm so confused, did Warren assume it was something else without checking it out???

Posted by: the rat at February 10, 2008 7:50 PM

Genius!

Posted by: rg at February 10, 2008 7:56 PM

I wonder what he's going to do now? LOL !

This is great entertainment, it just keeps getting better !

Thanks Kate

Posted by: Mugs at February 10, 2008 8:07 PM

Now that, is funny!

Posted by: multirec at February 10, 2008 8:09 PM

I think a certain blogging site will disappear overnight.

Posted by: Ruth at February 10, 2008 8:11 PM

Beautiful and brilliant as usual, Kate.

I agree, mischief is important, and this is one piece of mischief that will be a delight for a long time.

Posted by: Kevin Jaeger at February 10, 2008 8:15 PM

This is the funniest thing I have ever seen in my entire life. There's pwnage, and then there is...I'll have to somehow incorporate this newly discovered strata of "super" private property ownership into my socioeconomic models.

Posted by: fdsfdsafasfsa at February 10, 2008 8:19 PM

Whoa! Hotness!

Posted by: BrainDrainxp at February 10, 2008 8:27 PM

Internet lore has just added a classic pwn!

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2008 8:32 PM

'Nother Liberal sewer; newest member of Citoyen Dion's dream team.
>>>>>>>>>> "Noel is seeking legal advice on the matter."
From????
...-

Former MHA Fighting Back

A former MHA and now Liberal candidate for the federal riding of St. John's East is taking a stand against allegations in the recent Auditor General's report. The report says Walter Noel included personal items and alchohol in his expense claims. The former provincial cabinet minister says his claims were in accordance with the rules of the day and that the items covered were not for personal use. Noel is seeking legal advice on the matter. He says the report has caused him a terrible amount of embarrassment and stories to be written about this and that the Auditor General never even spoke with him before commenting publicly about it. Noel is still exploring further action. Noel disagrees with the Auditor General.Noel says the items were used properly and that's why they were claimed. He says they were claimed in accordance with the regulations at the time and that the same regulations apply today.
http://www.vocm.com/news-info.asp?id=26574
...-

"Ex-N.L. cabinet minister named in spending scandal given federal Liberal nod
Walter Noel,"
http://www.canadaeast.com/rss/article/203674

Posted by: maz2 at February 10, 2008 8:39 PM

It would appear that Kinsella has been morphed into SDA's personal pinata.

He is truly becoming a parody of himself.

Great work Kate.

Posted by: John West at February 10, 2008 8:56 PM

"...And I have been offered, and accepted, a position on the legal
affairs committee of the Canadian Jewish Congress".
Warren Kinsella 10 Feb 2008

Congratulations, Warren. Will your first task on behalf of the committee be to wash the cups or will they let you make the coffee right away?

Posted by: BCer at February 10, 2008 8:58 PM

Sorry, does this mean Kate faked a concentration camp tattoo and sent it to him?

Posted by: ADS at February 10, 2008 9:01 PM

LOL Just beautiful!

Classic indeed.

Posted by: ldd at February 10, 2008 9:03 PM

Touché!

Posted by: Flea at February 10, 2008 9:03 PM

A little [!] folklore mischief indeed. Maybe the CJC have a knife sharpener he can use, before returning himself to the drawer.

Posted by: David at February 10, 2008 9:04 PM

Am I to assume that's not a German motorcycle? I'd hate to see another round of Nazi-sightings set off.

Posted by: Drained Brain at February 10, 2008 9:07 PM

ADS,

That's no fake - it is the engine serial number from an 81 RD350 (the 666th off the line to Canada that year)

Posted by: ural at February 10, 2008 9:08 PM

Rose...the numbers were tattoed up the left forearm. See lberia's ref. Imagine,the leftie using the nick of one of the greatest mass-murders in history actually got something right! And about the Jooosss!! Slipping are we,lberia?

Posted by: Justthinkin at February 10, 2008 9:11 PM

It really makes you wonder sometimes. He keeps on trying to take on Kate, Kathy, Ezra and Mark. Anyone of these folks are more than capable of making him look like a fool, yet he keeps coming back for more.

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2008 9:12 PM

Originally, the numbers were placed on the left side of the chest, but they were moved to the left forearm for the sake of "expediency".

Posted by: SDC at February 10, 2008 9:14 PM

Ah ha!!

BTW The RD 350LC rocked...RDs were wheelie kings but the LC was hairy...glad i ride a demure old 1500 six honda.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 10, 2008 9:17 PM

That was slick! I'm across the lake from Toronto, and I heard a loud explosion a few hours ago..kind of like a huge ego blowing up.

Posted by: dean spencer - fox at February 10, 2008 9:19 PM

I can picture him with his Barney doll...in a heap of Rubble.
Yes..."mischeif is important". Keep living by that motto Kate. You have made my day!
I've been avoiding his blog...but it was worth linking there today!

Posted by: bluetech at February 10, 2008 9:21 PM

Can someone explain how it is funny to photoshop a concentration camp tattoo???

That doesn't seem very funny to me

Posted by: ADS at February 10, 2008 9:22 PM

What's a blizzard? We, in the banana belt of southwestern Onrario, get our blizzards at Dairy Queen. Do they deliver them out west? Do they oome in different flavours?

Posted by: Farmerboy at February 10, 2008 9:24 PM

Can someone explain how it is funny to photoshop a concentration camp tattoo???
That doesn't seem very funny to me

It's not about the tattoo, ADS. It's the guilty pleasure of knowing thousands of people will be laughing at the village idiot - and will continue to do so for years now that this little event will enter the blogosphere folklore.

I briefly considered it a little cruel to laugh at the village idiot, but I've gotten over it now.

Posted by: Kevin Jaeger at February 10, 2008 9:27 PM

I hear ya loud and clear:
That smell of oil, and gasoline in a garage. Both waiting for springlike weather, to set them free! Cold spring air, with a touch of sun, on white wintery skin.

Yeah I know that feeling. Ugh, I'm sure it's like waiting for a fix! Hurry up spring, and get here!

Posted by: eastern paul at February 10, 2008 9:35 PM

"Please tell me you didnt photoshop that?"

Long time SDA readers will of course recall Kate busted CBC for photoshoppin' when she spied an image named smoke2.jpg or some such thing and proved that it was a juiced up version of smoke1.jpg.

If you check the image she sent Kinsella it is named number2.jpg, which is to say she tipped him off that it was a fake.

Posted by: dfasfdsafsdaf at February 10, 2008 9:36 PM

If what you say is true, she should be ashamed of herself...faking Nazi concentration camp tattoos is not a joke

Is this true, Kate? Did you do this?

Posted by: ADS at February 10, 2008 9:40 PM

"I can picture him with his Barney doll...in a heap of Rubble."

I get a different visual Bluetech...I see him in the stationary closet of the CJC, hunched in the fetal position, sucking his thumb, rocking back and forth humming "kum-bye-ah"... afraid to answer the phone for fear a free speech Jew with a tattoo will phone asking him to explain his position on the Jewish media and Isreal....and why he hangs out in boys rooms snapping pictures.

The last refuge of a villain is the church...or synagogue in this case.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 10, 2008 9:48 PM

This is not funny!!!!

Faking an image of the Holocaust for a joke is terrible, I don't care how much you hate Kinsella

Kate Mcmillan uses Holocaust images as a joke...that is what has happened here?

This is a disgrace

Kate say you did not do it and I will believe it

Posted by: ADS at February 10, 2008 9:56 PM

It's funny, cause Kinsella loves a fairly famous Nazi-sympathiser. But apparently making free speech arguments is worse than evading WWII and running around Montreal wearing a Nazi armband and throwing salutes. This is why Warren is a DEEPTHINKER (tm) and we are the little benighted people.

Or, you know, you could not have a political hero who supported the Nazis. I much prefer people who fought for the right side in WWII. But then Warren has always sided with those engaging in genocide and crimes against humanity. It's what the Left does, while throwing charges against those who actually want to stop these things from happening.

Posted by: Hey at February 10, 2008 9:57 PM

ADS: It wasn't meant as a joke but a bit of high mischief. The joke is WK.

You must remember that people at sda are recovering Liberal concentration camp survivors and are deeply tormented by the prospect of being run to ground again.

So, mischief and a bit of gallows humour maybe. You know, I'm sure, that the Jews themselves are past masters of this kind of humour -- which helped them survive.

If you were a frequent visitor you'd know that Kate is a great champion of the Jewish people and Israel, as are most regular posters here.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at February 10, 2008 9:58 PM

Ooof!

Something to tell the grandkids twenty years from now when they ask what "Kinsellian" means.

Posted by: EBD at February 10, 2008 9:59 PM

ADS,

The message & picture Kate sent to Kinsella in no way stated the picture was of a concentration camp tattoo. Kinsella just assumed it to be so, and was stupid enough to post it on his blogsite without checking into it any further. The message sent to Kinsella was simply;

"Dear Mr. Kinsella,

I do not share this message on my arm with many, but it speaks for
itself. You may use it if you wish. Keep up the good fight.


Signed;
A reader."


Kate simply provided Kinsella an opportunity to make a complete ass of himself, and he wasted no time doing so.

Posted by: Mark R at February 10, 2008 10:00 PM

ADS...let me guess - no one invites you to parties, do they?

Posted by: Tenebris at February 10, 2008 10:10 PM

"Something to tell the grandkids twenty years from now when they ask what "Kinsellian" means."

Beautiful EBD...I'm going to start using this instead of "Orwellian"

..Orwell only wrote about fictional dystopias.

Kinsella advocates for existing Dystopian institutions.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 10, 2008 10:11 PM

That's fucking sick, pure and simple.

Posted by: JohnnyRingo at February 10, 2008 10:11 PM

Nice try Johnny Ringo. What kind words have you got for Kinsella for trying to exploit an image to shore up his collapsed side of the free speech arguement?

Kinsella made a fool of himself. Funny that a man that is a self desrcribed supporter of Jews and has actually written a book on Nazis, would not notice that the tattoo in question looked suspiciously like automotive VIN number.

I mean really, shouldn't Mr. Kinsella have spotted this right away?

Posted by: ward at February 10, 2008 10:24 PM

Obviously Johnny Ringo and ADS are lefties, so they were born without the ability to understand "funny".
Nice one cuz.

Posted by: Unclemeat at February 10, 2008 10:35 PM

You rock, Kate. A particularly nice touch making him think it was a tattoo from a place like Auschwitz — it never occurred to him that it could be a tattoo from Bob's Parlour of Skin Poetry that a biker (ahem: biker-chick?) might have had placed on his/her arm to remember a true love... ;-)

Posted by: Garth Wood at February 10, 2008 10:40 PM

First off, before I even understood what was going on, I noticed that the skin sure did not look like someone who survived Auschwitz........DUH!

Posted by: kingstonlad at February 10, 2008 10:45 PM

It's April right? Tell me it's April!!!

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 10, 2008 10:47 PM

Dang!!! Kate you made me go look at HIS website!!

Brilliantly done.

The only question I have regarding WK is did he get the gig at the CJC because of his bestest best buddy Wormwood?

Now must go wash my eyes.

Posted by: Joe at February 10, 2008 11:01 PM

Kate: I am be wrong, but I have a notion you just opened a can of worms that you'll live to regret. You find it amusing to fake a depiction of a tatoo placed on the arm of concentration camp survivor? I wonder if you are willing to explain that Kate?

Posted by: John Daly at February 10, 2008 11:07 PM

Kate: I may be wrong, but I have a notion you just opened a can of worms that you'll live to regret. You find it amusing to fake a depiction of a tatoo placed on the arm of concentration camp survivor? I wonder if you are willing to explain that Kate?

Posted by: John Daly at February 10, 2008 11:08 PM

Special 'K'..aka "Lional Hutz" aka Wornout Kantsellit now states:

"have I been fooled?"

Warnout...does Pinocchio have wooden balls?

No Lionel K...the phrase is "you've been bested"

....by a lil' ol' non liberal, non MSM, non lawyer dude, non librano gal frum da west...what rides on a smokey motor-cikel too!!

...so how smart are Ya anyway??

...G'wan tell us

...I know yer dying to.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 10, 2008 11:25 PM

Kate has brains, beauty, talent, her own successful blog, a fast bike... and more...

I am unworthy!

Posted by: Friend of USA at February 10, 2008 11:27 PM

Sorry Kate & crew, but I'm not a fan of the "gag"... while the temptation to take a shot at Warren may have been strong, I think this one crossed the line, and was a temptation you should have resisted.

Using the suffering of the Holocost to take a cheap shot at Kinsella wasn't cool... at least not in my books.

Posted by: Christian Conservative at February 10, 2008 11:36 PM

Have a look at WK's blog now. Nine paragraphs whining about the horror perpetrated by Kate M, the Indian-hating Saskatchewan bigot.

But something is missing. Oh, yeah. He forgot to threaten her with a lawsuit.

Posted by: BCer at February 10, 2008 11:42 PM

...how come Kate has to look so cute?

Posted by: tomax7 at February 10, 2008 11:49 PM

Hey CC perhaps if you took the time to spell "holocaust" correctly you moral concern over it's use as a political football may have some validity.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 10, 2008 11:55 PM

Nine paragraphs whining about the horror perpetrated by Kate M, the Indian-hating Saskatchewan bigot."

I Told ya he wanted to tell us how smart he really was ;-)

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 11, 2008 12:02 AM

mainly a group of regular losers and hicks who come back again and again, boosting her web statistics...

The person who wrote that ain't no Mark Steyn - in fact, he ain't no Kate McMillan.

Signed,
regular loser and hick (and strangely proud of it)

Posted by: Drained Brain at February 11, 2008 12:04 AM

WL Mackenzie Redux: what a typical dumb ass remark. The issue is spelling. Shut up, ok, and let's have Queen Kate come on down and explain herself. By the way, I've been to your blog. You need to retire the thing. It's covered in cowbwebs.

Posted by: john daly at February 11, 2008 12:04 AM

Mr Kinsella seems upset. Check his site again. He admits he was fooled, but as fools do, missed the point.

Mr Kinsella, if you are reading this, the point is that seeing everything as racist or anti-semitic is evidence of shallow thinking. You just proved it by falling for an obvious trick. Your shallow thinking applied as skillfully as you can in the political realm is dangerous. Fools with power are extremely dangerous. Ask any real person who lived through Hitler's rule.

The only response to fools with power is to discredit them, make them laughing stock. You just walked into it, and proved yourself a fool.

I speak as someone whose uncle was pursued by mobs in Quebec, whose religious compatriots died in concentration camps, and whose freedom of speech and expression are directly threatened by your beloved legislation.

Anyone who would support legislation that abrogates fundamental rights should be ashamed of saying that they stand for persecuted people. Do you think that you are so powerful a protector that you could stand in the way of oppression when you have been instrumental in tearing down the legal safeguards that protect basic rights? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Derek

Posted by: D Kite at February 11, 2008 12:08 AM

Hey John...go have sex with yourself...again

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 11, 2008 12:10 AM

Kate, you are so hot!

If you are ever interested in a 37 year old classical musician of Italian origin, single, no kids, you let me know.

PS if we got married you could become a US citizen too.

Posted by: Doug at February 11, 2008 12:14 AM

He admits he was fooled, but as fools do, missed the point...

From one regular loser and hick to another, Derek, well and pithily said!

Posted by: Drained Brain at February 11, 2008 12:15 AM

JJohn DDaly,

It's clear to any rational person that Kate did not "fake" a death camp tattoo, nor did her note to WK say anything to that effect. It was all power of suggestion. You want to go fishing for suckers, you have to use sucker bait. Looks like Kate got herself a nice creel full.

WK could have, if he chose to do it, done a little due diligence to try to verify the provenance of the tattoo, or published it with a disclaimer, but instead, he swallowed it whole.

Confucious say, "The conclusion you jump to may be your own."

Posted by: gordinkneehill at February 11, 2008 12:15 AM

http://www.warrenkinsella.com/images/number2.JPG

And that's one mother of a big ass number two I tell ya!!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHEEEEEHEHEHEHEHEHAAAAAHHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Posted by: phillipe at February 11, 2008 12:17 AM

I might be slow but I don't get the part with the asterix and Mark Helprin's reference.

Is that random?

Posted by: quebecois separatiste at February 11, 2008 12:17 AM

Let me explain it to you:

Why do the French plant trees along boulevards?

Because the Germans like to march in the shade.

Posted by: Doug at February 11, 2008 12:21 AM

Thanks for the entertainment!

Mr Kinsella was just a little too quick to make the kind of assumptions that he specializes in making and swallowed it hook,line & sinker.
Some advice, Mr Kinsella: try thinking and investigating before you jump to conclusions; not the other way around.

Posted by: mike in bc at February 11, 2008 12:26 AM


Torakusu...I think I smell gas!!

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 11, 2008 12:26 AM

Kate, that's a great classic yamaha (right), but maybe a ducati 1098 is in order:

www.ducati.com/en/bikes/my2008/ModelPage.jhtml?family=Superbike&model=SBK1098R-08

Posted by: caffeinated jerk at February 11, 2008 12:27 AM

i'm taking it as a given that Warman Kinsella is a graduate of either Dalhousie or Osgoode Hall.

Posted by: john begley at February 11, 2008 12:28 AM

My response to Warrens request for comments -from conservatives.

Dear Warren:

Asking for comments from conservatives is going to serve what purpose?
Perhaps some will agree with you and some not. Why not make it a non
partisan request for responses? There might be some liberals out there who
think you are the one at fault for using the imagry - which at first
inspection raises the question of why someone would tattoo a VIN number on
thier arm. It is only when it is viewed in the context that you have
created based on previous posts that one might think that this image has
anything to do with the Holocaust.

You saw what you wanted to see. Kate McMillan was clever enough to know that
you would use it in the fashion you did. You got had but mostly because you
were too hasty or too lazy or a bit of both.

As someone who has written books on Nazis, I would have thought that you
would be the first to spot an obvious fake.

Trying to spin this as a "Holocaust joke" on the part of Kate McMillan is a
bit rich. Who says that were it real that the person bearing the tattoo
would be Jewish? "It was not only Jews who were marked: all prisoners other
than ethnic Germans and police prisoners were tattooed." (Jewish Virtual
Library)

Kate sent you an imaage, you did the rest. Take some responsibility.

Posted by: ward at February 11, 2008 12:32 AM

"i'm taking it as a given that Warman Kinsella is a graduate of either Dalhousie or Osgoode Hall"

I don't care where your politics fall...now THAT is funny!! LOL ;-)

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 11, 2008 12:32 AM

Whoooeee I gits ta hang ma 'loser n hick' pennant with ma 'redneck' pennant and ma 'knuckle dragger' pennant.

Purty soon I gonna have more pennants than them thar New York Yankiis.

Posted by: Joe at February 11, 2008 12:35 AM

'I might be slow but I don't get the part with the asterix and Mark Helprin's reference.'

From Helprin as quoted:

"Nicolo, mischief is important"

Derek

Posted by: D Kite at February 11, 2008 12:37 AM

For the record - it's not a "vehicle registration number", as WK now claims. It is an engine serial number. The vehicle registration number is assigned by the government registry, not the manufacturer.

BTW: The 4Y3 will show up in the manufacturer assigned VIN, the 000766 might (but there is a good chance it won't).

Posted by: ural at February 11, 2008 12:37 AM

He he ...night ...Moonbats..bright light

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 11, 2008 12:39 AM

thanx bill.....as for my politics i've been on Warman Kinsella's case for a decade or more(me and doug collins took him to the mat in N.Van a few years back)....and before that the LLLiberalP.C's.......and before that Comrade Truedope's and his band of merry incompetents social planners and crooks all the way up to Papa Cretin's mafia ministry and the late unlamented PMPM.

as you can imagine i'm jubilant with the present gov't and PM........thrilled with Warman Kinsella's discomfiture and sanguine about the HRC debacle...and so glad i was here to see the wicked witch of the west put the boots to the 'punk'..i may be a 'hick and a loser' but at least i'm not a sucka!

Posted by: john begley at February 11, 2008 12:44 AM

Hey!

She fooled some guy into thinking that her motorcyle registration number was a number on a tatoo someone had on their arm in the Holocaust!

Cue Herman Munster laugh: "HyyyuunnHH! Hyyyunnnhh! HHyunnnnhuh!!"

Posted by: volik at February 11, 2008 12:46 AM

If this doesn't cause WK to blow a head gasket I don't know what will. For all of his pontificating and sermons about how smart, worldly and erudite he claims to be and how he was one of the powers behind the Lieberal throne he was just handed his azz on a plate. Kate there will be a real bouquet sent this year to brighten your spring, and it's worth every penny. Can't stop ROTFLMAO.

Posted by: Antenor at February 11, 2008 12:49 AM

Kate, you sent an email with the intent and effect of making someone believe your arm had a tattoo from the Holocaust. It was not a great plan, and Warren shouldn't have fallen for it. Regardless, your intent was to prank someone on the backs of Holocaust victims.

The result is not funny, and the whole scheme is below you. I believe (and hope) you'll come to regret it.

Posted by: Wanker at February 11, 2008 12:50 AM

Wanker, don't be a bonehead. Read ward's post at 12:32am to put it in context.

Kate didn't claim anything. Kinsella's ego did it all. That was the most brilliant part of her "Mischief".

Posted by: Rick in BC at February 11, 2008 12:59 AM

Kate: you have quite a few wiseguys who come to your site. You really do. You and your readers, and commentors, have written tomes about the duplicity of others. Lots to say about liars in government, liars in the environmental movement etc etc.

So are you a liar, Kate? A two face? Because some of your readers are deseminating to the beat the band. Sugguesting that the issue is Kinsella's failure to vet the photo and message you sent, and not your plain contempt for Holocaust survivors.

Where are you Kate? Why are you hiding? What's your explanation for making funny pranks on the ghosts of 6 million dead Jews?

Posted by: John Daly at February 11, 2008 1:06 AM

Rick, the claim was implicit, and the purpose and effect are identical to a case where it was explicit. The email said "I do not share this message on my arm with many, but it speaks for
itself," with a picture of what appears to be a tattoo on an arm, and was sent during a time of discussion about the Holocaust.

So your argument is that, had Kate said "I received this when the Germans printed it on me," then her actions would be reprehensible, but it's alright because she only implied it.

That's poor logic. And a poor prank by Kate.

Posted by: Wanker at February 11, 2008 1:11 AM

John Daly: on the Silence Wikipedia thread you wrote:

"So there it is. I think you are making an assumption, teach. That I necessarily need to, or ought to argue with you or Kate or anyone else here. I can comment, and will, without engaging (too much) in the stuff here that usually drifts toward childishness. "

After which you seem to run around picking fights, calling people out, name calling and other general childishness.

Since you lack any arguementative skills could you at least try to be consistent?

Posted by: ward at February 11, 2008 1:18 AM

Hate to throw some facts into the works, but the number does not resemble a holocaust serial number. Anyone associated with a Jewish organization should have known that. I found this site in 10-15 minutes.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007056
Basically the number began with only an "A" or a "1".
There were no "Y"s, at least according to the article.

Posted by: Gunney99 at February 11, 2008 1:26 AM

I understand the purpose of the prank. I understand that it puts Kinsella's boy's washroom photo in context. I understand how perfectly it illustrates Mr. Kinsella's incredibly juvenile style of making arguements.
I still wish it had not been done. I don't feel like laughing when the holocaust is brought up. I know it was not meant as a slam on Jews but rather on Kinsella. Unfortunately, to me it came off cumbersome and with way too much baggage. If this prank had never happened, I would have still known that Kinsella's about has useful as a MuchMusic VJ.

Posted by: northbaytrapper at February 11, 2008 1:35 AM

Wanker: Go over to Kinsellas site right now and scroll down. There was never any discussion about the Holocaust. There is one post that Warren put up that mentions the Holocaust in reference to a part of the braod and ongoing arguements regarding the HRC cases of Steyn and Levant. It has not been about the Holocaust. It has been about free speech and HRC's.

ITs Warren that turned it into a Holocaust issue because it suited his purpose.

Posted by: ward at February 11, 2008 1:35 AM

I have to agree with Ward.

The submitted picture was just that ... and Kinsella's response when he discovered he let his imagination get away with him is the basic tactic of ‘when in s**t, start throwing s**t.'

Kinsella was the one who spun a picture of a serial number (not vehicle registration number as he erroneously claimed), into a Holocaust rant.

My guess is that he does not understand the nature of National Socialism is ... drum roll, socialism. That would clearly define his particular worldview as Marxist-inspired, right down to the name-calling used as a guilt tactic.

Every once in a while, every human being's assumptions collapse around them. Let's see if Kinsella's man enough to own up to his own prejudicial thinking.

Posted by: set you free at February 11, 2008 1:52 AM

In response to Warren's call for comments, I posted this under the subject "Get a grip man!"

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Warren,

Speaking as a recent Canadian immigrant whose father was taking from his family at the age of 13 and forced to work on a German farm for 6 years ...

What's funny is the fact that she knows you so well that you couldn't possibly *not* post it. She knows you so well that you are willing to overlook *anything* to post it. You are, in effect, one-dimensional.

I mean, look at the picture ....

Any holocaust survivors still alive will be at least 70(ish) years old. Does it look like the arm of a 70 year old Holocaust survivor?
Really? Is this the arm of a 70 year old Holocaust survivor?

Warren, look at the picture with this one question in your mind: "Did I think it was the arm of a 70 year old Holocaust survivor or did I want it to be the arm of a 70 year old Holocaust survivor?"

The fact that Kate knows you would overlook this to try and score a cheap blogpoint is what makes it so very very funny.

I cringe when I watch people embarrass themselves. There is now a roll of yellow tape and a chalk outline where your integrity used to be. People will slow down and look when they pass.

Today, I'm glad I'm not you.

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Posted by: Richard at February 11, 2008 1:55 AM

This is getting rich: "So are you a liar, Kate? A two face? Because some of your readers are deseminating to the beat the band. Sugguesting that the issue is Kinsella's failure to vet the photo and message you sent, and not your plain contempt for Holocaust survivors.

Where are you Kate? Why are you hiding? What's your explanation for making funny pranks on the ghosts of 6 million dead Jews?"

Johnny's whipped himself into such a frenzy of righteous indignation that he seemingly can no longer type readable English. "A two face"? Perhaps he meant to say "Are you two-faced?" "Deseminating to the beat of the band?" A twofer, this one. "Deseminating" is a non-word. I guess, if it were a word, it would pertain the effects of a vasectomy. Well, maybe it's a mis-spelling of "disseminating", which means scattering about, or spreading about, as in the broadcasting of crop seed. Funny thing, though, insert that word, and it does not seem to make any sense in the context of the writer's argument. We'll have to cast our nets a little further afield. What about (rustle, rustle) "dissembling?" Aha! That seems to fit, contextually with "liar" and "two face." Let's go with that, then. Next comes: "to the beat of the band." Are we talking syncopated lying here? Mel Brooks could have fun with that one, I suspect. Or is the commenter having trouble with the colloquial English expression "to beat the band"? Which is generally taken to mean "lavishly" or "excessively", or, dare I say it, "liberally"?

As far as "sugguesting" goes, I'm willing to let that one slide as a simple fumble-fingered typo. If I were to call him on that one, it'd be a major case of the pot calling the kettle black.

And this silly notion of Kate, or her supporters having "contempt for Holocaust survivors." If anyone in this little drama has shown contempt for Holocaust survivors, it has to be the guy who hastily posts what he ASSUMES to be an e-mail from one such person in order to bolster his lame arguments for censorship. He is ASSUMING that because one person that he ASSUMES TO BE a Holocaust survivor endorses his particular brand of Liberal Fascism, that all or most do. Now, there is the disrespect; the notion that victims of past Fascism should be expected to support current Fascism.

You know, years ago now, I did have the opportunity to meet a gentleman who wore the tattoo of the death camps on his arm. It was a profoundly moving experience. That's why I could never support the Liberals, or the NDP, or all their hangers-on, in their headlong run into the open arms of radical Islam, which has explicitly stated it wants to finish the job that Hitler began.

Folks, go back and read John Daly's post of 1:06 A.M. Read it aloud to yourself. Notice anything peculiar about the sound of it?

Posted by: gordinkneehill at February 11, 2008 2:38 AM

Ah... ok now, I proxied over to Wornout's site and now I get it.

Guy's a chump.

Spinning like a turbofan-powered top in full afterburner...

I see he's now DEFAMING you, Kate. Guy loves to defame people outright, but should we merely opine about him... he goes ballistic, like an SS officer seeing an opportunity to do evil...

Maybe you should threaten to sue him if he doesn't take his latest post down...

The guy's in full self-destruct mode. Meltdown, indeed!

Seeing as how easily he's defamed you with these horrible words in the post responding to this one, Kate...

I will therefore republish the original post to which he took offence and demanded I contact him, with my real name.

That's right. I'm republishing the post he didn't like!

Posted by: The Canadian Sentinel at February 11, 2008 4:21 AM

The irony is magnificent. One of our most important rights is under attack by adherents of Islam. And where is Warren Kinsella in this fight?

Despite being on the wrong side of this seminal battle Warren thinks a holocaust survivor is a secret admirer. I'm not sure what Warren has done to deserve such admiration, but I presume he thinks of himself as a friend of the Jews. And the Palestinians.

Sometimes you have to let facts influence how you feel about things. I think Warren may want to rethink what side of this free speech dispute he wishes to take. There is no equivalence here.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php

And Daly and friends - calling people bigots is not going to cause us to resist the spread of Islam and the imposition of their gawdawful sharia law.

Posted by: Terry Gain at February 11, 2008 4:25 AM

Let's see if Warren tries to scare me again, now, that I've republished the post I had previously edited after he made me panic for a short while.

I take no lessons from Warren. He's a defamor himself, so he's throwing stones in his glass house while holding his Barney the Dinosaur doll...

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2008/02/want-piece-of-me-warren-post-is-back-up.html

Posted by: The Canadian Sentinel at February 11, 2008 5:15 AM

Scenty, not to worry - Warren K. takes you about as seriously as - well, the rest of the world does.

Now could someone explain to me:
- Kate pretends to be a holocaust survivor
- Kinsella responds with respect
- This somehow reflects WELL on Kate, and poorly on Kinsella?

Posted by: balbulican at February 11, 2008 6:56 AM

I see Balbulican wants to mess with Kate. Bad move, Balbulican.

Posted by: The Canadian Sentinel at February 11, 2008 7:10 AM

"Kate pretends to be a holocaust survivor"

I'd withdraw that libel if I were you, or at least post under your real name and provide contact info so she can serve you.

The email clearly originates from another domain, which would be apparent to a more technologically inclined individual. You made a very stupid assumption, and you got burned.

Kate earns enough money as a private sector business woman that spreading outright fabrications of this nature has to be harmful to her reputation, as was the intent in all probability.

Finally, get a sense of humour; no wonder the top commentor at your own blog is....you.

Posted by: KarenT at February 11, 2008 7:13 AM

I am a vorascious reader of blogs, many blogs from the left to the right. I also happen to be the child of Holocaust survivors. This is simply cruel. No one ought to use Holocaust imagery as a joke to make a point. You simply have no idea the pain conjured up by the image you thought would be funny to trick another blogger. Shame on you; shame on those who support you here. You owe Death Camp survivors an apology.

Posted by: Chapel at February 11, 2008 7:25 AM

sad to watch all you wingbats jerking each other off over K(h)ates immature trickery, grow up!

Posted by: kim at February 11, 2008 7:33 AM

"I also happen to be the child of Holocaust survivors."

Sure you are. Thing is, the moral of this story is that we don't take self-serving anectdotal claims from anonymous internet people seriously, because mischievious people may try to take advantage of the gullability of people in order to advance their own agendas.

Posted by: KarenT at February 11, 2008 7:35 AM

Had to close the browser. I was staring too long. Brains and beauty. Now I'm intimidated. Yes I know chauvanistic and boardering on the new mysoganistic but I'm behind a computer screen and my wife's not around. Just please don't tell her.

Posted by: jckirlan at February 11, 2008 7:45 AM

Regarding Kinsella's blossoming bathroom photography career, there has to be a song in there somewhere.
Something along the lines of the Monty Python Lumberjack song.
"I'm a liberal and I'm ok,
I lie all night and I steal all day,"

and ending up
'And hang around in restrooms,
taking pictures of the walls".

Posted by: Stan at February 11, 2008 7:46 AM

I think everyone should take a deep breath, and try to put this in context.

1. the dumb ass librano spin master, trolling in boy's washrooms, posts a photo of a swastika, that could have been put there by anyone, including the spin master himself

2. the jerk off librano spin doctor then uses this picture to assert that "nazis" are running rampant in Canada

3. Kate was just showing what a shallow, opportunistic piece of garbage said spin moron is.(he can use all the props, insults and spin that he feels is necessary to advance his whacked out, punk rock garbage, but when someone else does it, look out)

One other thing. Mr "I am still a punk rocker, cuz I still have no hair on my balls" K, do you get offended, or have you ever been offended by all the nazi imagery used by your heroes, the punk rock subsection of society?

Posted by: kingstonlad at February 11, 2008 7:47 AM

Kate you are a disgrace!!!

You made a joke using an inage of the shoah. Even Ezra has distanced himself fromyou

YOU ARE NO FRIEND OF THE JEWS

Posted by: ADS at February 11, 2008 8:00 AM

"Let's see if Warren tries to scare me again, now, that I've republished the post I had previously edited after he made me panic for a short while."

Man Warren the poseur, in every way, is going to get spanked by alot of bloggers now that he has been exposed as the bully coward he is, and his fangs have been proven to be made of paper. Ass Kicker indeed, maybe Ass Wiper. I hope he is thoroughly embarrased by his self description but I am sure he is without shame.

Posted by: jckirlan at February 11, 2008 8:03 AM

"I see Balbulican wants to mess with Kate. Bad move, Balbulican."

Scenty -to address you in your own favoured verncular and imagery - poopoo! caca! bumbum!!

Karen T - piss off. Kate would be well advised not brag about her prank if she doesn't want to be called on it. As for getting a sense of humour...heh. I'm learning a lot about what passes for a sense of humour here. Not pretty.

Posted by: balbulican at February 11, 2008 8:15 AM

Ezra Levant has some concerns about Kate's prank, but, contrary to AD's assertion, he has not "distanced himself" from Kate.

Ezra Levant wrote, "The point of the prank might not be immediately obvious to those who haven't followed the long-simmering Kinsella-Kate feud. But it's offensive only in the sense that The Producers is . . ."

Re Kate being "no friend of the Jews": wrong again.

Levant wrote, "I think that's an interesting difference here. Both Kate and Kinsella regard themselves as friends of the Jews; both campaign against what they regard as hatred. But though he's the bigger talker, Kinsella limits himself to snipe hunts against harmless, politically incorrect cranks. Kate would rather die before calling herself a "human rights activist", but arguably her defence of Israel and Western liberal values would give her more right to that title than Kinsella."

I think some people need to count to ten and take a deep breath.

Posted by: lookout at February 11, 2008 8:18 AM

Please, please, no back and forth with bulbiwhatizface, it's like a dispute at the depart of motor vehicles. Even if there's a point it's so tedious listening to this fussy little man. This guy could suck the air out of a room.

Posted by: dean spencer - fox at February 11, 2008 8:28 AM

Oh My I see the self-righteous arbiters of moral indignation are attempting to leverage Kates prank on Kinsella...yawn...back to bed.

Posted by: Blazingcatfur at February 11, 2008 8:34 AM

Great post Kate, Kinsella got PWNED!

Posted by: Tom Robinson at February 11, 2008 8:48 AM

One wonders what other frauds...er...pranks the abysmal Kate McMillan has perpetuated over the years.

We all know you're a liar, honey. We're just not sure how far you'll go. Let's hope we all find out.

Posted by: CBC Fan at February 11, 2008 8:53 AM

That's right CBCasskisser, she's going to file a complaint with the People's Truth Tribunal against you and your gang of Blackshirts.

Oh wait, that's your Fascist tactic.

Posted by: Doug at February 11, 2008 9:00 AM

Anti-Semitism is rife within the Canadian Muslim community, not to mention the Progressive Left, but hey, so what? Let's focus on a bad taste in-joke prank instead!!

Jacking off with your Left hand, huh guys?

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at February 11, 2008 9:02 AM

Just imagine how few hits on Kinsella's site there would be without Kate kicking his ass on a regular basis. Kinsella is like the Timex watch - takes a beating and keeps on ticking. Warren is finding out that if you're going to go one-on-one with Kate you just don't bring a knife to a gun fight. As for people like CBC Fan, calling Kate a liar, just how in hell would you know what a liar is? You get fed lies by the mother corp on a daily basis and don't know it. Like many other leftards you just don't get it. Never will.

Posted by: a different Bob at February 11, 2008 9:03 AM

Wow, Warren Kinsella has always billed himself as the Karl Rove of Canadian politics. I guess Kate finally proved he's just another Liberal moron.

Posted by: CanuckInMI at February 11, 2008 9:09 AM

Doug, dear child, it's the fascists that make fun of the Holocaust. It's the fascists, to this day, who get a cheap laugh off the backs of dead Jews, homosexuals and other people.

Normal people, Doug, actually don't think that impersonating a Holocaust victim for fun is actually all that humorous.


Posted by: JohnnyRingo at February 11, 2008 9:09 AM

Sorry Kate, but I don't think it's more important to make WK look stupid than it is to respect Holocaut survivors.

Mind you, it doesn't mean I think you should be censored. I believe in free speech, including offensive speech. But I will obviously express my distaste for what you've done here.

Posted by: ALW at February 11, 2008 9:11 AM

JerkyLingo, I suggest you read Jonah Goldberg's (a JEW) new book "Liberal Fascism" and then come back and see who have continued to carry the banner of fascism through all these years.

I can save you the trouble: it's YOUR gang of thugs.

Posted by: Doug at February 11, 2008 9:14 AM

I love you crazy kids. Let's summarize.

a) Kate didn't do it and she'll sue your ass if you say she did.

b) Wow, Kate, what a terrific gag (that one you didn't do.)

c) Yeah, it was in lousy taste, but MUSLIMS ARE WORSE!

d) Anything done to anyone we don't like is funny, as opposed to stuff done to people we like, which is, uh...not funny, I guess. Yeah.

e) B, C, and D do NOT contradict A.

Pandæmonium is that region of Hell where coherent thought is impossible because of the shrieking of demons. You guys will feel right at home.

Posted by: balbulican at February 11, 2008 9:15 AM

I post infrequently, because I've other thinks to do, but "Christian Conservative" cannot be left unchallenged. Hence...

I've got Ecclesiastes l.7:16 tattooed on me:

"Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?"

The ghosts of 6 million Jews dance in glee when idiots without brains prove themselves so by trying to exploit "the final solution" for purposes that would recreate the environment of its occurrence.

Kinsella is well on the path to destroying himself. Some people are attempting to ensure that he will not take down the innocent in the process by giving him rope.

Bless you, Kate. You have done well.

As for the rest of you that are whinging and moaning "How dare Kate do this to the poor Jews..."

...are you freakin' STUPID?!

Posted by: Tenebris at February 11, 2008 9:15 AM

"Jacking off with your Left hand, huh guys?"

Have another breakfast margarita, Shaidle. You're still conscious.

Posted by: CBC Fan at February 11, 2008 9:20 AM

Okay, YOU guys can have Tenebris for your side. No, really. Please.

Posted by: balbulican at February 11, 2008 9:22 AM

Don't you have a Google AdSense scam to run, Balbulican? Oh, right, you don't. Anymore.

Bad week for lefties I'd say, and it's only Monday morning!

Posted by: SarahG at February 11, 2008 9:38 AM

Its ironic that the various visiting Jews, leftists, and the generally thick, can't get it that was Warren (of the actionable "McMillan is a Saskatchewan-based bigot") who made the leap to the Holocaust (and btw - its not "the Holocaust Religion" - some of you are beginning to sound more like imams than Jews...).
Warren is responsible (well. irresponsible, mostly) for his own consequences. To suggest that poor Warren wasn't smart enough to see through this is to further embarrass the poor sop. To the rest of the bleaters, yes, the Holocaust was a hugely horrific tragedy, but not the only human tragedy this planet has faced. This wasn't about you, or the survivors.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2008 9:43 AM

but surely the humour in Kate's prank is in illustrating Warman Kinsella's modus operandi...he habitually takes the slenderest evidence and imbues it with major significance.....and what of the delicious irony in his much vaunted neo-nazi hunting prowess...he sees them EVERYWHERE does he not ?....yet he is incapable of detecting a genuine victim....neither on his own blog or on canada's Main street....this behaviour is symptomatic of the core problem conservative minded folks have with these leftistas.

Posted by: john begley at February 11, 2008 9:45 AM

and btw johndaly.....i only 'deseminate' with my wife thank you very much......so in the future please keep your filthy insinuations to yourself.....you neo-nazi hunters think you can treat us loser hicks any way you care to don't you ?

Posted by: john begley at February 11, 2008 9:51 AM

the only joke here is mcmillan and the clumsy oafs who drool over a shitty photo of kkkkate on her substitute penis while ignoring the twisted ego that thinks surviving the holocaust is funny.

Posted by: jeff davidson at February 11, 2008 10:08 AM

Jeffy, pablum a bit to thick to swallow this morning? Maybe they'll untie your arms and let you eat it with a spoon tomorrow.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2008 10:14 AM

This is just great!
Thank you Kate!
Classic dufuss outing!

Posted by: richfisher at February 11, 2008 10:24 AM

Kathy: I think you ought to use your website to illustrate how the Canadian Muslim community is "rife" with anti-Semitism. And since SDA is littered with literary experts (see comments about speling etc...) I'm certain folks will look up "rife" in the dictionary before proceeding...

Listen, folks: the issue isn't spelling. Is it? No. The issues have been free vs hate speech and currently what-was-Kate-thinking when she chuckled herself silly penning a concentration camp tattoo on her arm...

Lots of y'll are witty. Great. Funny too. That's not the point. You are not for tolerance. Most of you appear to be against tolerance. Or, more likely, you would like to keep the focus on the intolerance that exists within Islam, radical and otherwise.

What's the diff, please tell me. between Muslim and non Muslim intolerance?

Posted by: John Daly at February 11, 2008 10:25 AM

Kinsella's a victim of his own rush to use others to further his goals of limiting free speech. Nothing more, nothing less. To quote Ezra (because he puts it so well):

Kate's prank was not an eloquent witticism. It was a blunt demonstration of Kinsella's lack of Internet street smarts, and of the double standard he himself holds when it comes to insensitive comments.

Posted by: Richard Evans at February 11, 2008 10:39 AM

"No one ought to use Holocaust imagery as a joke to make a point."

How do you explain the headline last week

'White pride' website hails Victoria MP as hero

Liberal MP wins unwelcome praise from white supremacists for free speech stand.

This for someone thinking that maybe, just maybe the hate legislation in section 13, including the administrative process, may be granting a little too much power to unaccountable civil servants.

This is a black and white power play. Some people want to tell others how they should think. And will twist any truth, smear anyone's character to win their argument. This isn't about something that happened 65 years ago.

Derek

Posted by: dkite at February 11, 2008 10:43 AM

"What's the diff, please tell me. between Muslim and non Muslim intolerance?"

Millions of corpses.

Posted by: richfisher at February 11, 2008 10:45 AM

Interesting to note the selective outrage. If this had been a bit of CBC satire, sanctioned and funded by the government, then the alleged cultural elite wuld have jumped to its hind legs to defend it. Anyone disagreeing would have been given a pitying smirk, and sentenced to watch endless tapes of Rick Mercer. A toronto star columnist would have condescendingly scolded people about how it was good because it raised awareness about the issue.
But it wasn't, so dullwitted - hi jeff! - people feel empowered to be outraged.

Posted by: dean spencer - fox at February 11, 2008 11:00 AM

It was a blunt demonstration of Kinsella's lack of Internet street smarts, and of the double standard he himself holds when it comes to insensitive comments.

--Yes. Of course, that's not surprising, considering that Warren suffers from Liberal mental disorder.

Liberals have been getting away with worse than we're saying about them lately. Yet they squeal as if they're innocent victims!

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at February 11, 2008 11:03 AM

'Kate's prank was not an eloquent witticism."

Very true. It was not.

So - we're now conceding it WAS Kate's prank? I no longer have to worry (cough) about being sued?

Damn. I was just going to bite the bullet and join Ezra's Union for protection.

Posted by: balbulican at February 11, 2008 11:04 AM

you do realize that all you hateful idiots are also pyschopaths and sociopaths, right?

adolfs balllickers is what you pugs are.

Posted by: scott h at February 11, 2008 11:05 AM

I can't help thinking that this was a big mistake on your part.

Posted by: Jason Cherniak at February 11, 2008 11:11 AM

"You are not for tolerance. Most of you appear to be against tolerance."

Bwaaaah ha ha ha ha ha ha hew wow...probably the most circular argument I've seen... unless there is some arcane mysticism to grasping the "true meaning" of blatant gibberish masquerading as moral exhibitionism.

Everyone is intolerant or we would not exist in this plane of reality...you seem pretty intolerant of dissenting opinion yourself.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 11, 2008 11:11 AM

so i'm a pug eh ?....so call me a mug a pug and a thug too...see if i care..as long as you don't call me a dirty Methodist.

Posted by: john begley at February 11, 2008 11:13 AM

This post is called,

Enriching Their Folklore

Folklore; (Merriam Webster 3'definition) an often unsupported notion, story, or saying that is widely circulated.

I do not know if this was her intent but I think Kate has succeeded in enriching Kinsella's (and the left's) folklore.

Now their folklore will include made up stories of Kate making fun of the Holocaust and being anti-Semite (definitely an unsupported notion)
when it is obvious she was making fun of Kinsella.

as the story is repeated to Liberal kids around a camp fire to scare them, expect some story embellishment with time.

that's all folks!

Posted by: Friend of USA at February 11, 2008 11:15 AM

Interesting that the Leftists commenting are siding with a man who refuses to condemn the Islamofascists.

Can anyone provide a link to a Kinsella condemnation of Mohammed Elmasry's declaration that all Jews in Israel over 18 are legitimate targets for murder?

What about condemnation of Syed Soharwardy's call for Sharia Law to be the law of the land in Canada?

Where's Kinsella's condemnation of the intolerant, anti-Semitic Islamic fascists?

Well?

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at February 11, 2008 11:30 AM

Jason, try harder. You've been clearly able to "help thinking" in the past. Think about this: where in Kate's post, is the Holocaust mentioned? This baby is entirely your bud's doing. Sucks to be named WK this morning.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2008 11:31 AM

"I can't help thinking that this was a big mistake on your part." Jason Cherniak

Jason you're fogettin, PET, gave Kate the right to free speech, you said so yourself. Now go away lest we Christians decide to sacrifice you first in order to expedite the 2nd coming.

Posted by: Blazingcatfur at February 11, 2008 11:31 AM

Rich Fisher: The difference between Muslim and non million intolerance is a "few million corpses..." Really? When did the body count start?

Posted by: John Daly at February 11, 2008 11:40 AM

JD, let’s talk “tolerance”, shall we?

SDAers are not in favour of hauling our ideological/political opponents before a state kangaroo court to "settle" our disputes, e.g., have the state do our dirty work by harassing and substantially punishing law abiding fellow citizens with whom we disagree. In fact, the position of most of us, which you somehow seem to have missed, is that there should be great latitude—the tolerance you claim to favour—for a wide spectrum of opinion, including that which is truly offensive.

Perhaps you haven’t noticed the invective of the Left towards those they perceive as their enemies—you know, David Suzuki’s call for politicians who don’t fall in lock step with his agenda should be jailed (ironically, that would have to include Dion, for sure!); Hedy Fry’s burning crosses, etc.

We believe that the best way to deal with offensive speech is to expose it and critique it. WK’s speech is often odious: note his latest insults to Kate. In fact, being offensive appears to be his modus operandi. Kate one upped him in his silly game and he fell for it.

JD asks, "What's the diff, please tell me. [sic] between Muslim and non Muslim intolerance?" A very, very short list:

1) Muslim intolerance—“We keeeell you”—is much more virulent than the non Muslim variety. E.g., Did you know that the imams who stirred up all the trouble in the ME about the ho-hum Danish cartoons—people were KILLED—INSERTED two really offensive ones, which really were odious and very different from the originals. (To my knowledge, one showed Mohammed with the face of a pig. The other showed a dog sodomizing a Muslim man bent over on prayer.) After faking the evidence, the imams then whipped up a lethal frenzy.

Imams all over the world, in their sermons and teachings, say the most vile things about Jews and other infidels. Check it out, JD.

2) In Canada, Muslims often choose to very intolerantly ignore and even contravene our conventions and laws (both “equality” and criminal)—think: hateful sermons and teachings, gross misogyny, including honour killings, taxi drivers refusing to transport booze or dogs, checkout clerks refusing to bag pork, etc., —while squeezing the last entitlement out of the state and expecting the “tolerance” of their fellow Canadians, without which their harassment of us would never be tolerated!

3) Muslims are also quite prepared to use the jackboot of the state, via our kangaroo courts, to go after those whose speech—pablum compared to the poison they spout—to harass and punish, at taxpayer expense, those whom they perceive to be their enemies. If they don’t like Levant’s or Steyn’s publications or opinions, why not argue their point of view persuasively so that people will side with them? What a novel idea for the Muslim leadership, who seem used to having tantrums and bullying their opponents. JD, I think I’d call THAT intolerance.

4) I’d also call Muslim intolerance altogether arrogant and hypocritical. They DEMAND rights and entitlements they’re willing to use the state to enforce, in order to deny the rights of host Canadians, whose good will allowed these people to be here in the fist place.

5) In short, for Muslims, tolerance is altogether a one way street: YOU tolerate whatever we say we want tolerated. And, BTW, we reserve the right to not tolerate anything we don’t wish to. Get used to it.

As I said, JD, this is a VERY short list, typed up on the spot. Couldn’t you have come up with examples like these? If not, why not?


Posted by: lookout at February 11, 2008 11:47 AM

Kate, thanks again this morning for pulling this off. I even see Kinsella's bosom buddy Cheriak here. I think the best part of the whole thing is the comments posted by the lefties, they are still so brainwashed that they are blaming you for Kinsella's outing, and outing it was, probably the best on the internet, truly worthy of a blog award. Of course the left have to rise up in defense of Kinsella, for they can never, ever admit that one of the salesmen that sold them the "Emperor's Clothes" has been nothing but one of a group of charlatans conning them for most of their adult live's. They can never admit to being conned so they are truly doomed to exist in their own little "Shangrila". I just wish that they would take their juvenile arguments back where Kinsella was taking pictures, where they belong.

Posted by: Antenor at February 11, 2008 11:51 AM

All the lefty retards with their panties in a knot really makes my day.Now as a conservative voter I think I'll go to a lefty site and announce my outrage over....wait a minute,I have a life.

Posted by: h.ryan. at February 11, 2008 11:52 AM

Too bad a post like this NEVER stays on topic!

Hey Warren !!!
Where does the fact that you are continually being shown as a fool and hypocrite go in your version of reality? Certainly does not seem to sink in between your ears.

Posted by: OMMAG at February 11, 2008 11:56 AM

Warren has his collection of responses up. Unsurprisingly everyone apparently agrees with him.

To all those writing here in support of the righteous Liberal Warren Kinsella, you should go do a bit of background research on how the Liberal Party of Canada has voted on UN resolutions with regards to Israel.

Now come back and tell me that the LPC or Warren K are deserving of the self appointed position of standing up for Jews.

Don't be fooled by the high dudgeon though, Warren is releived to no be talking about Richard Warman, HRC's and free speech - having had his hat handed to him by Kate, Kathy, Ezra and Steyn (not to mention in editorials) on a daily basis for the last couple of weeks.

Posted by: ward at February 11, 2008 12:01 PM

Despite the obvious youth of the 'skin,' Kinsella, assumed it was indeed from a holocaust survivor. This assumption based on his arrogant championing of section 13.1. And more importantly his failure at it.

Therefore, he jumped at the conclusion. 'At last, vindication!'

However, he has a more important problem. In his supposed 'good fight', he backs the charges against both Levant and Steyn. Both charges brought by unmistakably anti-Semetic racists. Elmasry, for example, has publicly condoned killing all Israelis 18 and over. And the Calgary Imam peddles Shariah in Canada, which is legally defined and accepted anti-Semetism, amongst other 'legal' abominations against women and non-Muslims.

This is beyond hypocrisy. So, which is it Warren, are you an anti-Semitic racist, or do you just like holding two opposite opinions at the same time?

Posted by: irwin daisy at February 11, 2008 12:06 PM

Warren has his collection of responses up. Unsurprisingly everyone apparently agrees with him.

Thanks for saving me a click to view what I knew would be the inevitable result of the individual-in-question's appeal to "right-think conservatives."

I'd like to think his moment of fame is nearly over.

Posted by: Drained Brain at February 11, 2008 12:07 PM

I've said this before, but no hurt in reiterating the point. When Kinsella et al were leading the charge for Chretien during the 2000 election; Kinsella ridiculed Day's beliefs in Christianity and Creationism. Kinsella's ridicule of Day was witnessed nationwide and probably in some international regions as well.

It would be interesting to know how Kinsella would handle it if a complaint should be laid against him with the CHRC. I truly wonder if one should be brought forth.

Posted by: postscript at February 11, 2008 12:08 PM

Ward...the sound of chirping crickets will be the only response you'll get from the moonbats regarding your last post.

Posted by: h.ryan. at February 11, 2008 12:10 PM

I See there is still a vast amount of confusion (Mostly coming from the left end of the gene pool) as to what this is all about.

It wasn't meant to be humorous...

It was meant to expose the venality of those who claim to be Canada's adhoc Simon Weisenthals...the nescient shallowness that cannot tell a genuine death camp tattoo from a Motorcycle serial number is the same shallow mentality that can't tell a Nazi from a popcorn fart....The special K cult are like malicious Keystone cops with way too much access to the administrative power to destroy lives with their deluded perspectives of anti-Semitism.

That's why the special K kids create the dream scape of "hate"...when true genocidal Nazis do not exist, one must manufacture them for one's own enrichment as a "nazi hunter". When anti-semitic intolerance DOES exist in a politically inconvenient locale, one ignores it and focuses instead on fly specs.

Grant Bristow and Lucy Warman know all about fabricating "hate". Radical Islam knows all about genocidal anti-Semitism….but the special K witch hunt cult ignores the inconvenient truth to sell the convenient myth.

It's also about the hypocrisy inherent in moral exhibitionism...which has been amply displayed here and elsewhere with moral crusaders engaging in a lot of their own "hating" and “intolerance”.

And it's about the morbid lack of perspective in the PC witch hunt cult demonstrated by interpreting Kate's campy prank as being akin to a crime against humanity.

Lastly it's about dual standards...the do as I preach not as I do mentality that will mock and condemn a Christian faith and publicly defame it's adherents (with purple dinosaur pranks or worse) which is so quick to label any criticism or commentary other than its own as "hate crimes".


As for Jews…this prank wasn’t about Jews, it was about exposing hypocritical sycophants who create civil injustice by reflexively reacting to false perspective.

For Holocaust survivors or victims the worst outrage you can do them is to allow shallow political opportunists use the injustice done them to justify more civil injustice.

Section 13 and its malevolent witch hunt cult have created civil injustice in the name of correcting civil injustice.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 11, 2008 12:10 PM

My quote above from the individual-in-question's comment should be "right-thinking conservatives."

Somehow I happened to be thinking of "group-think" as I wrote. I'm sure I don't know why.

Posted by: Drained Brain at February 11, 2008 12:11 PM

This is one of the first times I have been to this blog and i just have to say that I can't figure out how anyone could think this is funny or even more bizarrely "genius"?

All it shows to me is unusual behavior. If i got an e-mail like that as a joke from someone I hardly knew i would consider it frightening in how far it was. Imagine getting that in the e-mail as a joke?

At best this is an example of great idiocy. And it is obvious that it is such.

Posted by: David Tudor at February 11, 2008 12:16 PM

Cue the indignation,cue the"I'll never visit this site again".Moonbats are so typical.

Posted by: h.ryan. at February 11, 2008 12:24 PM

To those who state we should not belittle the Holocaust, I say: Get a grip! Are we supposed to speak in hushed tones, with our heads down and then say a little prayer everytime the Holocaust is mentioned? Not a chance!

The Holocaust was horrible, an utter depravity, a symbol of how low humans can sink. BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE! What about Vietnam? Rwanda? Russia? Darfur? Iraq? Armenia? Are we supposed to live our lives speaking about THOSE occurrences in hushed tones, with our heads down and saying a little prayer?

What about the Viking raids? What about the Roman invasions of Europe and Britain? What about the Spanish invading Central America?

Why stop there? What about slavery in the States? Muslim atrocities? Christian atrocities? Secular atrocities?

Pretty soon, once you've compiled a list of all the terrible things that humans have done to one another, you'll find that there is NOTHING you can talk about!

So, I will NOT stop talking about the Holocaust anyway I choose. Would I make fun of it? NO! Just like I wouldn't make fun of ANY of the OTHER atrocities committed by mankind.

As far as this prank goes, I just cannot see how Kate's prank makes light of the Holocaust in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. If you think so, I suggest that there is a problem with your perception.

Please, detractors...do tell. EXACTLY HOW does this prank make fun of or belittle the Holocaust? Other than she didn't do it in hushed tones, with her head down and saying a little prayer? She showed the Wicked Wizard of Spin a tattoo of a number and let him do the rest...the problem lies with Kinsella, not Kate.

Get a grip! Get a clue! Get a sense of humour!

I say, bravo Kate!

Posted by: Eeyore at February 11, 2008 12:31 PM

Lookout: I'll read your post and respond when I have a moment, later. If it's serious, that is. If it's the usual smartass stuff that attempts to pass itself off as commentary here, then I'll pass, thanks...

I would very much like to know: where is Kate?

Posted by: John Daly at February 11, 2008 12:40 PM

"If i got an e-mail like that as a joke from someone I hardly knew i would consider it frightening in how far it was."

Um, "David Tudor" - if that is your real name, Warren Kinsella - your irrational fears are not the concern of the masses. Have you tried an adult diaper such as Depends? Do what the rest of us do and cope and stop whining like a titty baby.

Christians and Muslims get insulted every day here at SDA and elsewhere; it's time for some people to get off the short bus and stop the pathetic whining.

Posted by: fsdfsfsafa at February 11, 2008 12:40 PM

However, David Tudor,

Had you read some of the comments prior to yours, you might have a better perspective.

Warren Kinsella is championing proven anti-Semetic racists in their charges against Levant and Steyn.

Is this acceptable?

He is also an associate and supporter of Richard Warman, who pulls entrapment pranks on Nazi websites, posing as a racist and uttering unbelievably anti-Semetic racist comments. As well as writing racist comments against Ann Cools.

Is this acceptable?

Kinsella has also publicly and in the press ridiculed prominent politicians, such as Stockwell Day, simply because of their Christian faith.

Is this acceptable?

While he feels he has the right to freely support racists and make unbelievably bigoted comments in public, he wants to shut down free speech for the rest of us.

This is what the slithering snake, Kinsella, is all about.

Despite the obviousness of the prank, he gladly assumed that this motorbike 'serial number' was from a holocaust survivor and posted it in an attempt to show his own self-serving vindication.

The fact of the matter is, how can he be vindicated from his outright support and championing of anti-Semetic racists? How can anybody show support for the bigot, Kinsella, when he publicly derides a politician, simply because he is a Christian? At the very least, how can anybody take this person's side when he holds two opposing viewpoints at the same time?

The question remains, is Warren Kinsella a racist bigot? And if it takes something like this to force his unsavoury, racist and bigoted actions and statements into the spotlight, then so be it.

Posted by: irwin daisy at February 11, 2008 12:44 PM

I almost felt bad because it was like clubbing a baby seal. Actually, it was different than that. It was like giving a baby seal a club and watching it beat itself...

You can read the e-mail exchange between "Eitan" and Kinsella here: http://no-libs.com/?p=2129

Posted by: Richard Evans at February 11, 2008 12:46 PM

"Now their folklore will include made up stories of Kate making fun of the Holocaust"

It does seem to fit in nicely with Kate's documented bigotry towards native people, blacks, arabs and muslims.

Kind of like...y'know...a pattern?...a trend..a Leitmotiv? (that's German), if you will.

Posted by: CBC Fan at February 11, 2008 12:47 PM

"frightening in how far it was"

Grover, on Sesame Street, doing his "Near" and "Far" schtick must have been unbearably life altering for you Dave.

Fear NOT those radical muppets Dave, we are "near".

Posted by: richfisher at February 11, 2008 12:47 PM

Eeyore, bravo. Exactly what I was thinking.

Some perspective....

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/books/2003673065_myholocaust22.html?syndication=rss


... and some humour to offend everyone...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python

Posted by: jhuck at February 11, 2008 12:48 PM

Comments reposted at www.warrenkinsella.com:

• Sandy [Crux-of-the-Matter]: As a Blogging Tory and a slightly to the right thinker, I am appalled at what Kate at Small Dead Animals has done. Right or left thinking has absolutely nothing to do with being a racist or making light of the Holocaust. Or, at least it shouldn't. What possible gain can anyone get at trying to make a fool out of a fellow blogger -- no matter what our political differences? While someone may disagree with WK from time to time, and I do regularly, why on earth in the name of good taste and decency, is it necessary to embark on some kind of gotcha operation like this? When I was in barely out of my teens, during 1961, I spend some time studying in Toronto. I had a flat in a house where the woman of the house was in Israel for most of the year I was there. Both she and her husband had numbers on their arms. Their story was horrendous and yet they survived with grace and dignity. She was away because she was a witness at the trial of Adolf Eichmann. No, there is nothing funny or satirical in what Kate did. For shame!
• Ezra Levant: Kate's is not a prank I would have done. I've been to Yad Vashem too often to be irreverent about tattoos on Holocaust survivors. I'll grant Kinsella that it was humour in questionable taste.
• A.L. Wudrick: Kate made a joke in extremely bad taste. I don’t find it funny at all. I think she’s making light of a serious factual historical tragedy. I think it’s insulting to Jews, and shows poor judgment. It suggests she’s more interested in making Warren Kinsella look stupid than demonstrating she has any compassion for survivors of the Holocaust.
• Damian Penny: …this one really left a bad taste in my mouth…I'm sure Kate's intent was to make Kinsella look ridiculous, not to make light of the Holocaust. But if some "anti-Zionist" blogger pulled the same kind of trick on me, I know what conclusions I'd be inclined to draw. This was completely uncalled for.

Ooooh, but don't criticize her because, because, because... Muslims are all BAD.

What a moron you may have shown him to be, but at the cost of showing yourself and you supporters to be just as moronic and, frankly worse, willing to stoop to any pitiable level just to score a point.

Not to write too big a picture out of this insensitive prank of pretending to be a Holocaust survivor ("speaks for itself"), but this is a big reason why people like McCain and Obama are poised to take over. Ordinary folks are just getting so sick of the uber-partisans where anything goes and does if it is for our side.

Posted by: i'm done with SDA at February 11, 2008 12:53 PM

Cue the indignation.

Posted by: h.ryan. at February 11, 2008 1:00 PM

Catchy handle, i'm done with SDA. Been posting here for awhile?

The "planned spontaneity" (a phrase used in all seriousness by a school superintendent I once worked for) and general uniformity of these indignant responses in that other website I promised myself I wouldn't visit - sigh - unwittingly encapsulate certain liberals' views of how "free speech" should work, i.e.

A target group is selected carefully for reponses. "Please complete the following statement: "I'm a real conservative and I'm outraged..."

It is all screened carefully before the great unwashed, are allowed to view it. This also allows the "screener" to quote out-of-context as it suits his purposes (e.g. Ezra Levant). It likewise enables him to display the most grotesque, despicable and insulting responses in opposition to his own views for obvious reasons. Prissy apologies about the language emanate in this case from a Shi**er from Heck.

The result? Controlled free speech appropriate for the masses, if not exactly Fair and Balanced.

Posted by: Drained Brain at February 11, 2008 1:03 PM

Wow, thanks Kate, this has been so entertaining!

all the righteous indignation about making "fun" of the Holocauset is rubbish nonsense. I have a suspicion that all those around here worried about offending dead Jews, do not defend today's living Jews who are this minute fighting for survival.

I have been following this site for probably 2 years now and Kate is a strong defender of Israel and friend of Jews.

and as Ezra pointed out, remember "The Producers"?

Posted by: ex-liberal at February 11, 2008 1:11 PM

Lookout: We are at crosspurposes here, but you've taken the time and put in some effort, so let me try and respond in a may that is satisfactory (and I am going to assume, against the odds, that you are really interested in an exchange of ideas...)-

You have listed a number of examples of Muslim abuse of tolerance. I could, but probably won't vet each one. If we were going to be scientific that would be the way to go. I don't think that's useful. Instead I would challenge you to present those kinds of examples in this context: what percentage of the total population of Muslims living in Canada are preaching the kind of hatred and intolerance you have cited and/or taking advantage of our tolerance and returning that tolerance with their own mean-spirited and Muslim centric approach.

I believe that it's the minority of Muslims that engage in the kind of stuff you are talking about. At least here, in this country.

How does Christianity treat women? How does the Catholic church treat women? Now and in the past?

I don't favour the kind of human rights tribunals you have described and I do favour the approach of discussion, as one method of promoting increased tolerance, all the way around.

If we go through all the posts on this thread and exclude those that (and I am guilty of this)employ insults (moonbats, leftards, rightwing rednecks etc) then we are left with a much smaller sampling of worthwhile opinion.

I may misunderstand the definition of "bigot". I don't think I do. I have used the word as a descriptor. What I mean is this: I believe that Kate McMillan and the majority of those who are voicing support for her "prank" on Kinsella, think less of Muslims. Think that Muslims are worse than or less than non Muslims.

It's not an argument, in my view, to distract from that observation by insisting that Muslims are worse.

Posted by: John Daly at February 11, 2008 1:17 PM

Lookout: So I agree we have something to fear in radical Islamism. I also think we have lots to fear in radical born again bring on the end of days Christianity...

Lots of folks here, slick writers and punsters and worshippers of Henny Youngman, will dismiss that world view as "moonbat moral equivalence..." Of this I am certain; anyone, no exceptions, who is employing insults in their presentation of opinion (myself included) is uncomfortable with the strength of that position.

And I am sincerly interested in hearing what Kate has to say about all of this...

Posted by: John Daly at February 11, 2008 1:29 PM

John Daly:

Kinsella had already introduced the Nazi angle to the free speech debate he was losing. The next step was to introduce the Holocaust angle with himself positioned on the righteous moral high ground.

He invoked Godwins law with no urging and would advanced the Holocaust angle as well had Kate sent him the image or not.

Kate short circuited his attempt to misdirect the free speech debate by sending him the image, and made him look like a fool in the process.

Hardy a joke. More like checkmate or game, set and match.

Posted by: ward at February 11, 2008 1:31 PM

"I have a suspicion that all those around here worried about offending dead Jews, do not defend today's living Jews who are this minute fighting for survival."

You're very wrong on that point, ex-liberal... I certainly don't fit into your assumption.

A few interesting points in reading these comments...

1) I actually agree with Jason Cherniak on something... scary.

2) When people have accused us on the right of being red-neck buffons, I've always given my fellow conservatives the benefit of the doubt. Now... I'm not so sure my trust has been well placed.

3) It's a real shame to see how many hateful and insulting comments have been left here by so-caled "conservatives", instead of talking about the real issues at hand.

4) It looks like a large number of my fellow "conservatives" need to grow up...

Posted by: Christian Conservative at February 11, 2008 1:31 PM

I have yet to be presented with evidence that Warren Kinsella condemns bigoted Islamists like, for example, Syed Soharwardy and Mohammed Elmasry. Does he favor terrorism against Jews over 18 in Israel? Does he favor the intolerant, violent Sharia Law? If the response to those questions is "no", then he should be able to, in the same breath, condemn those two Muslim extremists as "bigots" on his blog. He has no problem condemning white bigots as bigots, so why can't he condemn non-white bigots as such?

How come Warren only seems to go after hateful people only when they're "white"? Does he go after hateful Arabs and hateful dark-skinned racists, etc? Anyone have any evidence that he ever has? And how much, relative to his hunting of imaginary Nazis, including in male defecatoria?

I think that maybe Warren, out of state-apparatus brainwashing and delusion, hates himself for being white, therefore he goes after anyone white who sounds as if they don't feel guilty at all for having been born that way. He ne