I don't get the point of the post, but... nice "Terminator" photo, Kate...

Keep her on the road Kate!

Kate,

Do you know why men love women in leather?
Because the smell like a new truck.

:0)

If you don't get it, troll over to Kinsella's place...It took me a few minutes.

I read your biker chronicles before I read the political blog.
4Y3-00076-hmmm, you have the same ser# as your wheat permit book, maybe, maybe not. I am stumped also.
My trusty old Honda sits in a winter wasteland waiting for the onslaught of global warning so I can unleash its ancient Asian technology on the bumpy roads of Alberta.

http://silverwinger.blogspot.com/

I need some hits, what can I say.
Silverwinger

Please tell me you didnt photoshop that?

Mischief Indeed!

Wonder Woman is on to something - the Cad may indeed be had.

Two minutes on Google Image search would have prevented the liar Kinsella from being:

P'ownd

I got smoked by one of the bikes years ago (I was on my 500 cc Honda). Mind you, the other rider was better too.

If I understand this correctly, this is, to paraphrase a paraphrase, hilarity on stilts.

Tweaking the tweakers has long been a favorite pasttime of mine as well.

that is going to leave a mark

Kate, you're looking way too hot...expect Kinsella to start stalking you agaion...

TATTOOS AND NUMBERS: THE SYSTEM OF IDENTIFYING PRISONERS AT AUSCHWITZ

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007056

Identification in Nazi camps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_in_Nazi_camps

Don’t tell me, that’s Trudeau’s famous Wasser-Boy bike.

Naughty, naughty! LOL!

I was out in my garage this afternoon tinkering my 1967 Mercury Cougar XR7. Kate, I know how you feel today.

well done kate mcmillan...the best jeu d'esprit i can remember....it was neat effective and not gaudy....i think you've proven beyond any doubt what a gullible easily led suggestible manipulable predictable impetuous fourth rate pantaloon our friend Warman Kinsella is....

....how i pity the CJC.....but i reckon Ezra will be highly amused......it's just so fitting somehow....poetic...it has balance and appropriateness and delicious irony beyond telling...

....mind you, the phone number off a minor hockey arena public convenience stall door might have been a titch funnier....mebbe you could try that tomorrow...he's so bemused with himself he'd fall for it twice...

So that was you at the Kings Crew christmas party.

Absolutely brilliant! This is gonna be a blogger classic.

You thought 45 minutes, Kate. It only took 26... Smart crew around here...

PWNED!!!

an instant classic.

Cant really tell from the pic if that is an RD or RZ. You don't see many around anymore. Probably the most fun bike I've ever had.

I used to beat a lot of bigger bikes on it. I didn't realize it also beats a Kinsella quite handily.

Truly a thing of beauty.

I can only shake my head at his imaginary world of evil Neo Nazis ( aka stupid white men in garages or basements), anyone could of penciled or felt markered in a serial number on their arm.

I thought the tattooed serial numbers were placed cross wise across the wrist not up the arm? Am I wrong?

Rd, liquid cooled. But you saw that.

Well, I finally figured it out, but only with Wonder Woman's pointing to Kinsella. Whew! Really worried there for a few minutes. From the get-go, I've been challenged by Kate's sometimes obtuse -- but always hilarious -- thread constructions. In fact, I have a very smart [but perhaps even more linear than moi] friend who I keep pointing to sda and he always complains about being lost! I've even sent him some threads with sda lessons! And Shaidle -- he just doesn't get at all.

Well, Kate, "rode her hard and put her away wet today". Vancouver up to Squamish (squeamish) for a StarBucks on my Yammie FJR1300. Heavy but she pulls Gs! Sunny leaving, then rain at Squamish, then pouring rain leaving, then 10C and blue skies back in Vancouver.

Well, Kate McMillan on a motorbike.

The definitive riposte to global-warming econuts and the Suzuki fascists!

Memo to Al Gore et al.: stuff your crappy Prius where the sun don't shine.

And Kate likes "min schnaus" too so she's doubly worthy in my books.

This hack is going to go down in blogging history.

Absolutely brilliant.

Me, I ride Italian metal, a '73 Moto Guzzi Eldorado. But I've never thought of tattooing the VIN on my arm. I wonder why Kinsella wanted to post yours on his website? I'm especially puzzled as to why he would be "honoured" to have your VIN on his page. I'm so confused, did Warren assume it was something else without checking it out???

Genius!

I wonder what he's going to do now? LOL !

This is great entertainment, it just keeps getting better !

Thanks Kate

Now that, is funny!

I think a certain blogging site will disappear overnight.

Beautiful and brilliant as usual, Kate.

I agree, mischief is important, and this is one piece of mischief that will be a delight for a long time.

This is the funniest thing I have ever seen in my entire life. There's pwnage, and then there is...I'll have to somehow incorporate this newly discovered strata of "super" private property ownership into my socioeconomic models.

Whoa! Hotness!

Internet lore has just added a classic pwn!

'Nother Liberal sewer; newest member of Citoyen Dion's dream team.
>>>>>>>>>> "Noel is seeking legal advice on the matter."
From????
...-

Former MHA Fighting Back

A former MHA and now Liberal candidate for the federal riding of St. John's East is taking a stand against allegations in the recent Auditor General's report. The report says Walter Noel included personal items and alchohol in his expense claims. The former provincial cabinet minister says his claims were in accordance with the rules of the day and that the items covered were not for personal use. Noel is seeking legal advice on the matter. He says the report has caused him a terrible amount of embarrassment and stories to be written about this and that the Auditor General never even spoke with him before commenting publicly about it. Noel is still exploring further action. Noel disagrees with the Auditor General.Noel says the items were used properly and that's why they were claimed. He says they were claimed in accordance with the regulations at the time and that the same regulations apply today.
http://www.vocm.com/news-info.asp?id=26574
...-

"Ex-N.L. cabinet minister named in spending scandal given federal Liberal nod
Walter Noel,"
http://www.canadaeast.com/rss/article/203674

It would appear that Kinsella has been morphed into SDA's personal pinata.

He is truly becoming a parody of himself.

Great work Kate.

"...And I have been offered, and accepted, a position on the legal
affairs committee of the Canadian Jewish Congress".
Warren Kinsella 10 Feb 2008

Congratulations, Warren. Will your first task on behalf of the committee be to wash the cups or will they let you make the coffee right away?

Sorry, does this mean Kate faked a concentration camp tattoo and sent it to him?

LOL Just beautiful!

Classic indeed.

Touché!

A little [!] folklore mischief indeed. Maybe the CJC have a knife sharpener he can use, before returning himself to the drawer.

Am I to assume that's not a German motorcycle? I'd hate to see another round of Nazi-sightings set off.

ADS,

That's no fake - it is the engine serial number from an 81 RD350 (the 666th off the line to Canada that year)

Rose...the numbers were tattoed up the left forearm. See lberia's ref. Imagine,the leftie using the nick of one of the greatest mass-murders in history actually got something right! And about the Jooosss!! Slipping are we,lberia?

It really makes you wonder sometimes. He keeps on trying to take on Kate, Kathy, Ezra and Mark. Anyone of these folks are more than capable of making him look like a fool, yet he keeps coming back for more.

Originally, the numbers were placed on the left side of the chest, but they were moved to the left forearm for the sake of "expediency".

Ah ha!!

BTW The RD 350LC rocked...RDs were wheelie kings but the LC was hairy...glad i ride a demure old 1500 six honda.

That was slick! I'm across the lake from Toronto, and I heard a loud explosion a few hours ago..kind of like a huge ego blowing up.

I can picture him with his Barney doll...in a heap of Rubble.
Yes..."mischeif is important". Keep living by that motto Kate. You have made my day!
I've been avoiding his blog...but it was worth linking there today!

Can someone explain how it is funny to photoshop a concentration camp tattoo???

That doesn't seem very funny to me

What's a blizzard? We, in the banana belt of southwestern Onrario, get our blizzards at Dairy Queen. Do they deliver them out west? Do they oome in different flavours?

Can someone explain how it is funny to photoshop a concentration camp tattoo???
That doesn't seem very funny to me

It's not about the tattoo, ADS. It's the guilty pleasure of knowing thousands of people will be laughing at the village idiot - and will continue to do so for years now that this little event will enter the blogosphere folklore.

I briefly considered it a little cruel to laugh at the village idiot, but I've gotten over it now.

I hear ya loud and clear:
That smell of oil, and gasoline in a garage. Both waiting for springlike weather, to set them free! Cold spring air, with a touch of sun, on white wintery skin.

Yeah I know that feeling. Ugh, I'm sure it's like waiting for a fix! Hurry up spring, and get here!

"Please tell me you didnt photoshop that?"

Long time SDA readers will of course recall Kate busted CBC for photoshoppin' when she spied an image named smoke2.jpg or some such thing and proved that it was a juiced up version of smoke1.jpg.

If you check the image she sent Kinsella it is named number2.jpg, which is to say she tipped him off that it was a fake.

If what you say is true, she should be ashamed of herself...faking Nazi concentration camp tattoos is not a joke

Is this true, Kate? Did you do this?

"I can picture him with his Barney doll...in a heap of Rubble."

I get a different visual Bluetech...I see him in the stationary closet of the CJC, hunched in the fetal position, sucking his thumb, rocking back and forth humming "kum-bye-ah"... afraid to answer the phone for fear a free speech Jew with a tattoo will phone asking him to explain his position on the Jewish media and Isreal....and why he hangs out in boys rooms snapping pictures.

The last refuge of a villain is the church...or synagogue in this case.

This is not funny!!!!

Faking an image of the Holocaust for a joke is terrible, I don't care how much you hate Kinsella

Kate Mcmillan uses Holocaust images as a joke...that is what has happened here?

This is a disgrace

Kate say you did not do it and I will believe it

It's funny, cause Kinsella loves a fairly famous Nazi-sympathiser. But apparently making free speech arguments is worse than evading WWII and running around Montreal wearing a Nazi armband and throwing salutes. This is why Warren is a DEEPTHINKER (tm) and we are the little benighted people.

Or, you know, you could not have a political hero who supported the Nazis. I much prefer people who fought for the right side in WWII. But then Warren has always sided with those engaging in genocide and crimes against humanity. It's what the Left does, while throwing charges against those who actually want to stop these things from happening.

ADS: It wasn't meant as a joke but a bit of high mischief. The joke is WK.

You must remember that people at sda are recovering Liberal concentration camp survivors and are deeply tormented by the prospect of being run to ground again.

So, mischief and a bit of gallows humour maybe. You know, I'm sure, that the Jews themselves are past masters of this kind of humour -- which helped them survive.

If you were a frequent visitor you'd know that Kate is a great champion of the Jewish people and Israel, as are most regular posters here.

Ooof!

Something to tell the grandkids twenty years from now when they ask what "Kinsellian" means.

ADS,

The message & picture Kate sent to Kinsella in no way stated the picture was of a concentration camp tattoo. Kinsella just assumed it to be so, and was stupid enough to post it on his blogsite without checking into it any further. The message sent to Kinsella was simply;

"Dear Mr. Kinsella,

I do not share this message on my arm with many, but it speaks for
itself. You may use it if you wish. Keep up the good fight.

Signed;
A reader."

Kate simply provided Kinsella an opportunity to make a complete ass of himself, and he wasted no time doing so.

ADS...let me guess - no one invites you to parties, do they?

"Something to tell the grandkids twenty years from now when they ask what "Kinsellian" means."

Beautiful EBD...I'm going to start using this instead of "Orwellian"

..Orwell only wrote about fictional dystopias.

Kinsella advocates for existing Dystopian institutions.

That's fucking sick, pure and simple.

Nice try Johnny Ringo. What kind words have you got for Kinsella for trying to exploit an image to shore up his collapsed side of the free speech arguement?

Kinsella made a fool of himself. Funny that a man that is a self desrcribed supporter of Jews and has actually written a book on Nazis, would not notice that the tattoo in question looked suspiciously like automotive VIN number.

I mean really, shouldn't Mr. Kinsella have spotted this right away?

Obviously Johnny Ringo and ADS are lefties, so they were born without the ability to understand "funny".
Nice one cuz.

You rock, Kate. A particularly nice touch making him think it was a tattoo from a place like Auschwitz — it never occurred to him that it could be a tattoo from Bob's Parlour of Skin Poetry that a biker (ahem: biker-chick?) might have had placed on his/her arm to remember a true love... ;-)

First off, before I even understood what was going on, I noticed that the skin sure did not look like someone who survived Auschwitz........DUH!

It's April right? Tell me it's April!!!

Dang!!! Kate you made me go look at HIS website!!

Brilliantly done.

The only question I have regarding WK is did he get the gig at the CJC because of his bestest best buddy Wormwood?

Now must go wash my eyes.

Kate: I am be wrong, but I have a notion you just opened a can of worms that you'll live to regret. You find it amusing to fake a depiction of a tatoo placed on the arm of concentration camp survivor? I wonder if you are willing to explain that Kate?

Kate: I may be wrong, but I have a notion you just opened a can of worms that you'll live to regret. You find it amusing to fake a depiction of a tatoo placed on the arm of concentration camp survivor? I wonder if you are willing to explain that Kate?

Special 'K'..aka "Lional Hutz" aka Wornout Kantsellit now states:

"have I been fooled?"

Warnout...does Pinocchio have wooden balls?

No Lionel K...the phrase is "you've been bested"

....by a lil' ol' non liberal, non MSM, non lawyer dude, non librano gal frum da west...what rides on a smokey motor-cikel too!!

...so how smart are Ya anyway??

...G'wan tell us

...I know yer dying to.

Kate has brains, beauty, talent, her own successful blog, a fast bike... and more...

I am unworthy!

Sorry Kate & crew, but I'm not a fan of the "gag"... while the temptation to take a shot at Warren may have been strong, I think this one crossed the line, and was a temptation you should have resisted.

Using the suffering of the Holocost to take a cheap shot at Kinsella wasn't cool... at least not in my books.

Have a look at WK's blog now. Nine paragraphs whining about the horror perpetrated by Kate M, the Indian-hating Saskatchewan bigot.

But something is missing. Oh, yeah. He forgot to threaten her with a lawsuit.

...how come Kate has to look so cute?

Hey CC perhaps if you took the time to spell "holocaust" correctly you moral concern over it's use as a political football may have some validity.

Nine paragraphs whining about the horror perpetrated by Kate M, the Indian-hating Saskatchewan bigot."

I Told ya he wanted to tell us how smart he really was ;-)

mainly a group of regular losers and hicks who come back again and again, boosting her web statistics...

The person who wrote that ain't no Mark Steyn - in fact, he ain't no Kate McMillan.

Signed,
regular loser and hick (and strangely proud of it)

WL Mackenzie Redux: what a typical dumb ass remark. The issue is spelling. Shut up, ok, and let's have Queen Kate come on down and explain herself. By the way, I've been to your blog. You need to retire the thing. It's covered in cowbwebs.

Mr Kinsella seems upset. Check his site again. He admits he was fooled, but as fools do, missed the point.

Mr Kinsella, if you are reading this, the point is that seeing everything as racist or anti-semitic is evidence of shallow thinking. You just proved it by falling for an obvious trick. Your shallow thinking applied as skillfully as you can in the political realm is dangerous. Fools with power are extremely dangerous. Ask any real person who lived through Hitler's rule.

The only response to fools with power is to discredit them, make them laughing stock. You just walked into it, and proved yourself a fool.

I speak as someone whose uncle was pursued by mobs in Quebec, whose religious compatriots died in concentration camps, and whose freedom of speech and expression are directly threatened by your beloved legislation.

Anyone who would support legislation that abrogates fundamental rights should be ashamed of saying that they stand for persecuted people. Do you think that you are so powerful a protector that you could stand in the way of oppression when you have been instrumental in tearing down the legal safeguards that protect basic rights? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Derek

Hey John...go have sex with yourself...again

Kate, you are so hot!

If you are ever interested in a 37 year old classical musician of Italian origin, single, no kids, you let me know.

PS if we got married you could become a US citizen too.

He admits he was fooled, but as fools do, missed the point...

From one regular loser and hick to another, Derek, well and pithily said!

JJohn DDaly,

It's clear to any rational person that Kate did not "fake" a death camp tattoo, nor did her note to WK say anything to that effect. It was all power of suggestion. You want to go fishing for suckers, you have to use sucker bait. Looks like Kate got herself a nice creel full.

WK could have, if he chose to do it, done a little due diligence to try to verify the provenance of the tattoo, or published it with a disclaimer, but instead, he swallowed it whole.

Confucious say, "The conclusion you jump to may be your own."

http://www.warrenkinsella.com/images/number2.JPG

And that's one mother of a big ass number two I tell ya!!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHEEEEEHEHEHEHEHEHAAAAAHHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

I might be slow but I don't get the part with the asterix and Mark Helprin's reference.

Is that random?

Let me explain it to you:

Why do the French plant trees along boulevards?

Because the Germans like to march in the shade.

Thanks for the entertainment!

Mr Kinsella was just a little too quick to make the kind of assumptions that he specializes in making and swallowed it hook,line & sinker.
Some advice, Mr Kinsella: try thinking and investigating before you jump to conclusions; not the other way around.

Torakusu...I think I smell gas!!

Kate, that's a great classic yamaha (right), but maybe a ducati 1098 is in order:

www.ducati.com/en/bikes/my2008/ModelPage.jhtml?family=Superbike&model=SBK1098R-08

i'm taking it as a given that Warman Kinsella is a graduate of either Dalhousie or Osgoode Hall.

My response to Warrens request for comments -from conservatives.

Dear Warren:

Asking for comments from conservatives is going to serve what purpose?
Perhaps some will agree with you and some not. Why not make it a non
partisan request for responses? There might be some liberals out there who
think you are the one at fault for using the imagry - which at first
inspection raises the question of why someone would tattoo a VIN number on
thier arm. It is only when it is viewed in the context that you have
created based on previous posts that one might think that this image has
anything to do with the Holocaust.

You saw what you wanted to see. Kate McMillan was clever enough to know that
you would use it in the fashion you did. You got had but mostly because you
were too hasty or too lazy or a bit of both.

As someone who has written books on Nazis, I would have thought that you
would be the first to spot an obvious fake.

Trying to spin this as a "Holocaust joke" on the part of Kate McMillan is a
bit rich. Who says that were it real that the person bearing the tattoo
would be Jewish? "It was not only Jews who were marked: all prisoners other
than ethnic Germans and police prisoners were tattooed." (Jewish Virtual
Library)

Kate sent you an imaage, you did the rest. Take some responsibility.

"i'm taking it as a given that Warman Kinsella is a graduate of either Dalhousie or Osgoode Hall"

I don't care where your politics fall...now THAT is funny!! LOL ;-)

Whoooeee I gits ta hang ma 'loser n hick' pennant with ma 'redneck' pennant and ma 'knuckle dragger' pennant.

Purty soon I gonna have more pennants than them thar New York Yankiis.

'I might be slow but I don't get the part with the asterix and Mark Helprin's reference.'

From Helprin as quoted:

"Nicolo, mischief is important"

Derek

For the record - it's not a "vehicle registration number", as WK now claims. It is an engine serial number. The vehicle registration number is assigned by the government registry, not the manufacturer.

BTW: The 4Y3 will show up in the manufacturer assigned VIN, the 000766 might (but there is a good chance it won't).

He he ...night ...Moonbats..bright light

thanx bill.....as for my politics i've been on Warman Kinsella's case for a decade or more(me and doug collins took him to the mat in N.Van a few years back)....and before that the LLLiberalP.C's.......and before that Comrade Truedope's and his band of merry incompetents social planners and crooks all the way up to Papa Cretin's mafia ministry and the late unlamented PMPM.

as you can imagine i'm jubilant with the present gov't and PM........thrilled with Warman Kinsella's discomfiture and sanguine about the HRC debacle...and so glad i was here to see the wicked witch of the west put the boots to the 'punk'..i may be a 'hick and a loser' but at least i'm not a sucka!

Hey!

She fooled some guy into thinking that her motorcyle registration number was a number on a tatoo someone had on their arm in the Holocaust!

Cue Herman Munster laugh: "HyyyuunnHH! Hyyyunnnhh! HHyunnnnhuh!!"

If this doesn't cause WK to blow a head gasket I don't know what will. For all of his pontificating and sermons about how smart, worldly and erudite he claims to be and how he was one of the powers behind the Lieberal throne he was just handed his azz on a plate. Kate there will be a real bouquet sent this year to brighten your spring, and it's worth every penny. Can't stop ROTFLMAO.

Kate, you sent an email with the intent and effect of making someone believe your arm had a tattoo from the Holocaust. It was not a great plan, and Warren shouldn't have fallen for it. Regardless, your intent was to prank someone on the backs of Holocaust victims.

The result is not funny, and the whole scheme is below you. I believe (and hope) you'll come to regret it.

Wanker, don't be a bonehead. Read ward's post at 12:32am to put it in context.

Kate didn't claim anything. Kinsella's ego did it all. That was the most brilliant part of her "Mischief".

Kate: you have quite a few wiseguys who come to your site. You really do. You and your readers, and commentors, have written tomes about the duplicity of others. Lots to say about liars in government, liars in the environmental movement etc etc.

So are you a liar, Kate? A two face? Because some of your readers are deseminating to the beat the band. Sugguesting that the issue is Kinsella's failure to vet the photo and message you sent, and not your plain contempt for Holocaust survivors.

Where are you Kate? Why are you hiding? What's your explanation for making funny pranks on the ghosts of 6 million dead Jews?

Rick, the claim was implicit, and the purpose and effect are identical to a case where it was explicit. The email said "I do not share this message on my arm with many, but it speaks for
itself," with a picture of what appears to be a tattoo on an arm, and was sent during a time of discussion about the Holocaust.

So your argument is that, had Kate said "I received this when the Germans printed it on me," then her actions would be reprehensible, but it's alright because she only implied it.

That's poor logic. And a poor prank by Kate.

John Daly: on the Silence Wikipedia thread you wrote:

"So there it is. I think you are making an assumption, teach. That I necessarily need to, or ought to argue with you or Kate or anyone else here. I can comment, and will, without engaging (too much) in the stuff here that usually drifts toward childishness. "

After which you seem to run around picking fights, calling people out, name calling and other general childishness.

Since you lack any arguementative skills could you at least try to be consistent?

Hate to throw some facts into the works, but the number does not resemble a holocaust serial number. Anyone associated with a Jewish organization should have known that. I found this site in 10-15 minutes.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007056
Basically the number began with only an "A" or a "1".
There were no "Y"s, at least according to the article.

I understand the purpose of the prank. I understand that it puts Kinsella's boy's washroom photo in context. I understand how perfectly it illustrates Mr. Kinsella's incredibly juvenile style of making arguements.
I still wish it had not been done. I don't feel like laughing when the holocaust is brought up. I know it was not meant as a slam on Jews but rather on Kinsella. Unfortunately, to me it came off cumbersome and with way too much baggage. If this prank had never happened, I would have still known that Kinsella's about has useful as a MuchMusic VJ.

Wanker: Go over to Kinsellas site right now and scroll down. There was never any discussion about the Holocaust. There is one post that Warren put up that mentions the Holocaust in reference to a part of the braod and ongoing arguements regarding the HRC cases of Steyn and Levant. It has not been about the Holocaust. It has been about free speech and HRC's.

ITs Warren that turned it into a Holocaust issue because it suited his purpose.

I have to agree with Ward.

The submitted picture was just that ... and Kinsella's response when he discovered he let his imagination get away with him is the basic tactic of ‘when in s**t, start throwing s**t.'

Kinsella was the one who spun a picture of a serial number (not vehicle registration number as he erroneously claimed), into a Holocaust rant.

My guess is that he does not understand the nature of National Socialism is ... drum roll, socialism. That would clearly define his particular worldview as Marxist-inspired, right down to the name-calling used as a guilt tactic.

Every once in a while, every human being's assumptions collapse around them. Let's see if Kinsella's man enough to own up to his own prejudicial thinking.

In response to Warren's call for comments, I posted this under the subject "Get a grip man!"

----------------------------------------------
Warren,

Speaking as a recent Canadian immigrant whose father was taking from his family at the age of 13 and forced to work on a German farm for 6 years ...

What's funny is the fact that she knows you so well that you couldn't possibly *not* post it. She knows you so well that you are willing to overlook *anything* to post it. You are, in effect, one-dimensional.

I mean, look at the picture ....

Any holocaust survivors still alive will be at least 70(ish) years old. Does it look like the arm of a 70 year old Holocaust survivor?
Really? Is this the arm of a 70 year old Holocaust survivor?

Warren, look at the picture with this one question in your mind: "Did I think it was the arm of a 70 year old Holocaust survivor or did I want it to be the arm of a 70 year old Holocaust survivor?"

The fact that Kate knows you would overlook this to try and score a cheap blogpoint is what makes it so very very funny.

I cringe when I watch people embarrass themselves. There is now a roll of yellow tape and a chalk outline where your integrity used to be. People will slow down and look when they pass.

Today, I'm glad I'm not you.

-----------------------------------------------

This is getting rich: "So are you a liar, Kate? A two face? Because some of your readers are deseminating to the beat the band. Sugguesting that the issue is Kinsella's failure to vet the photo and message you sent, and not your plain contempt for Holocaust survivors.

Where are you Kate? Why are you hiding? What's your explanation for making funny pranks on the ghosts of 6 million dead Jews?"

Johnny's whipped himself into such a frenzy of righteous indignation that he seemingly can no longer type readable English. "A two face"? Perhaps he meant to say "Are you two-faced?" "Deseminating to the beat of the band?" A twofer, this one. "Deseminating" is a non-word. I guess, if it were a word, it would pertain the effects of a vasectomy. Well, maybe it's a mis-spelling of "disseminating", which means scattering about, or spreading about, as in the broadcasting of crop seed. Funny thing, though, insert that word, and it does not seem to make any sense in the context of the writer's argument. We'll have to cast our nets a little further afield. What about (rustle, rustle) "dissembling?" Aha! That seems to fit, contextually with "liar" and "two face." Let's go with that, then. Next comes: "to the beat of the band." Are we talking syncopated lying here? Mel Brooks could have fun with that one, I suspect. Or is the commenter having trouble with the colloquial English expression "to beat the band"? Which is generally taken to mean "lavishly" or "excessively", or, dare I say it, "liberally"?

As far as "sugguesting" goes, I'm willing to let that one slide as a simple fumble-fingered typo. If I were to call him on that one, it'd be a major case of the pot calling the kettle black.

And this silly notion of Kate, or her supporters having "contempt for Holocaust survivors." If anyone in this little drama has shown contempt for Holocaust survivors, it has to be the guy who hastily posts what he ASSUMES to be an e-mail from one such person in order to bolster his lame arguments for censorship. He is ASSUMING that because one person that he ASSUMES TO BE a Holocaust survivor endorses his particular brand of Liberal Fascism, that all or most do. Now, there is the disrespect; the notion that victims of past Fascism should be expected to support current Fascism.

You know, years ago now, I did have the opportunity to meet a gentleman who wore the tattoo of the death camps on his arm. It was a profoundly moving experience. That's why I could never support the Liberals, or the NDP, or all their hangers-on, in their headlong run into the open arms of radical Islam, which has explicitly stated it wants to finish the job that Hitler began.

Folks, go back and read John Daly's post of 1:06 A.M. Read it aloud to yourself. Notice anything peculiar about the sound of it?

Ah... ok now, I proxied over to Wornout's site and now I get it.

Guy's a chump.

Spinning like a turbofan-powered top in full afterburner...

I see he's now DEFAMING you, Kate. Guy loves to defame people outright, but should we merely opine about him... he goes ballistic, like an SS officer seeing an opportunity to do evil...

Maybe you should threaten to sue him if he doesn't take his latest post down...

The guy's in full self-destruct mode. Meltdown, indeed!

Seeing as how easily he's defamed you with these horrible words in the post responding to this one, Kate...

I will therefore republish the original post to which he took offence and demanded I contact him, with my real name.

That's right. I'm republishing the post he didn't like!

The irony is magnificent. One of our most important rights is under attack by adherents of Islam. And where is Warren Kinsella in this fight?

Despite being on the wrong side of this seminal battle Warren thinks a holocaust survivor is a secret admirer. I'm not sure what Warren has done to deserve such admiration, but I presume he thinks of himself as a friend of the Jews. And the Palestinians.

Sometimes you have to let facts influence how you feel about things. I think Warren may want to rethink what side of this free speech dispute he wishes to take. There is no equivalence here.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php

And Daly and friends - calling people bigots is not going to cause us to resist the spread of Islam and the imposition of their gawdawful sharia law.

Let's see if Warren tries to scare me again, now, that I've republished the post I had previously edited after he made me panic for a short while.

I take no lessons from Warren. He's a defamor himself, so he's throwing stones in his glass house while holding his Barney the Dinosaur doll...

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2008/02/want-piece-of-me-warren-post-is-back-up.html

Scenty, not to worry - Warren K. takes you about as seriously as - well, the rest of the world does.

Now could someone explain to me:
- Kate pretends to be a holocaust survivor
- Kinsella responds with respect
- This somehow reflects WELL on Kate, and poorly on Kinsella?

I see Balbulican wants to mess with Kate. Bad move, Balbulican.

"Kate pretends to be a holocaust survivor"

I'd withdraw that libel if I were you, or at least post under your real name and provide contact info so she can serve you.

The email clearly originates from another domain, which would be apparent to a more technologically inclined individual. You made a very stupid assumption, and you got burned.

Kate earns enough money as a private sector business woman that spreading outright fabrications of this nature has to be harmful to her reputation, as was the intent in all probability.

Finally, get a sense of humour; no wonder the top commentor at your own blog is....you.

I am a vorascious reader of blogs, many blogs from the left to the right. I also happen to be the child of Holocaust survivors. This is simply cruel. No one ought to use Holocaust imagery as a joke to make a point. You simply have no idea the pain conjured up by the image you thought would be funny to trick another blogger. Shame on you; shame on those who support you here. You owe Death Camp survivors an apology.

sad to watch all you wingbats jerking each other off over K(h)ates immature trickery, grow up!

"I also happen to be the child of Holocaust survivors."

Sure you are. Thing is, the moral of this story is that we don't take self-serving anectdotal claims from anonymous internet people seriously, because mischievious people may try to take advantage of the gullability of people in order to advance their own agendas.

Had to close the browser. I was staring too long. Brains and beauty. Now I'm intimidated. Yes I know chauvanistic and boardering on the new mysoganistic but I'm behind a computer screen and my wife's not around. Just please don't tell her.

Regarding Kinsella's blossoming bathroom photography career, there has to be a song in there somewhere.
Something along the lines of the Monty Python Lumberjack song.
"I'm a liberal and I'm ok,
I lie all night and I steal all day,"

and ending up
'And hang around in restrooms,
taking pictures of the walls".

I think everyone should take a deep breath, and try to put this in context.

1. the dumb ass librano spin master, trolling in boy's washrooms, posts a photo of a swastika, that could have been put there by anyone, including the spin master himself

2. the jerk off librano spin doctor then uses this picture to assert that "nazis" are running rampant in Canada

3. Kate was just showing what a shallow, opportunistic piece of garbage said spin moron is.(he can use all the props, insults and spin that he feels is necessary to advance his whacked out, punk rock garbage, but when someone else does it, look out)

One other thing. Mr "I am still a punk rocker, cuz I still have no hair on my balls" K, do you get offended, or have you ever been offended by all the nazi imagery used by your heroes, the punk rock subsection of society?

Kate you are a disgrace!!!

You made a joke using an inage of the shoah. Even Ezra has distanced himself fromyou

YOU ARE NO FRIEND OF THE JEWS

"Let's see if Warren tries to scare me again, now, that I've republished the post I had previously edited after he made me panic for a short while."

Man Warren the poseur, in every way, is going to get spanked by alot of bloggers now that he has been exposed as the bully coward he is, and his fangs have been proven to be made of paper. Ass Kicker indeed, maybe Ass Wiper. I hope he is thoroughly embarrased by his self description but I am sure he is without shame.

"I see Balbulican wants to mess with Kate. Bad move, Balbulican."

Scenty -to address you in your own favoured verncular and imagery - poopoo! caca! bumbum!!

Karen T - piss off. Kate would be well advised not brag about her prank if she doesn't want to be called on it. As for getting a sense of humour...heh. I'm learning a lot about what passes for a sense of humour here. Not pretty.

Ezra Levant has some concerns about Kate's prank, but, contrary to AD's assertion, he has not "distanced himself" from Kate.

Ezra Levant wrote, "The point of the prank might not be immediately obvious to those who haven't followed the long-simmering Kinsella-Kate feud. But it's offensive only in the sense that The Producers is . . ."

Re Kate being "no friend of the Jews": wrong again.

Levant wrote, "I think that's an interesting difference here. Both Kate and Kinsella regard themselves as friends of the Jews; both campaign against what they regard as hatred. But though he's the bigger talker, Kinsella limits himself to snipe hunts against harmless, politically incorrect cranks. Kate would rather die before calling herself a "human rights activist", but arguably her defence of Israel and Western liberal values would give her more right to that title than Kinsella."

I think some people need to count to ten and take a deep breath.

Please, please, no back and forth with bulbiwhatizface, it's like a dispute at the depart of motor vehicles. Even if there's a point it's so tedious listening to this fussy little man. This guy could suck the air out of a room.

Oh My I see the self-righteous arbiters of moral indignation are attempting to leverage Kates prank on Kinsella...yawn...back to bed.

Great post Kate, Kinsella got PWNED!

One wonders what other frauds...er...pranks the abysmal Kate McMillan has perpetuated over the years.

We all know you're a liar, honey. We're just not sure how far you'll go. Let's hope we all find out.

That's right CBCasskisser, she's going to file a complaint with the People's Truth Tribunal against you and your gang of Blackshirts.

Oh wait, that's your Fascist tactic.

Anti-Semitism is rife within the Canadian Muslim community, not to mention the Progressive Left, but hey, so what? Let's focus on a bad taste in-joke prank instead!!

Jacking off with your Left hand, huh guys?

Just imagine how few hits on Kinsella's site there would be without Kate kicking his ass on a regular basis. Kinsella is like the Timex watch - takes a beating and keeps on ticking. Warren is finding out that if you're going to go one-on-one with Kate you just don't bring a knife to a gun fight. As for people like CBC Fan, calling Kate a liar, just how in hell would you know what a liar is? You get fed lies by the mother corp on a daily basis and don't know it. Like many other leftards you just don't get it. Never will.

Wow, Warren Kinsella has always billed himself as the Karl Rove of Canadian politics. I guess Kate finally proved he's just another Liberal moron.

Doug, dear child, it's the fascists that make fun of the Holocaust. It's the fascists, to this day, who get a cheap laugh off the backs of dead Jews, homosexuals and other people.

Normal people, Doug, actually don't think that impersonating a Holocaust victim for fun is actually all that humorous.

Sorry Kate, but I don't think it's more important to make WK look stupid than it is to respect Holocaut survivors.

Mind you, it doesn't mean I think you should be censored. I believe in free speech, including offensive speech. But I will obviously express my distaste for what you've done here.

JerkyLingo, I suggest you read Jonah Goldberg's (a JEW) new book "Liberal Fascism" and then come back and see who have continued to carry the banner of fascism through all these years.

I can save you the trouble: it's YOUR gang of thugs.

I love you crazy kids. Let's summarize.

a) Kate didn't do it and she'll sue your ass if you say she did.

b) Wow, Kate, what a terrific gag (that one you didn't do.)

c) Yeah, it was in lousy taste, but MUSLIMS ARE WORSE!

d) Anything done to anyone we don't like is funny, as opposed to stuff done to people we like, which is, uh...not funny, I guess. Yeah.

e) B, C, and D do NOT contradict A.

Pandæmonium is that region of Hell where coherent thought is impossible because of the shrieking of demons. You guys will feel right at home.

I post infrequently, because I've other thinks to do, but "Christian Conservative" cannot be left unchallenged. Hence...

I've got Ecclesiastes l.7:16 tattooed on me:

"Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?"

The ghosts of 6 million Jews dance in glee when idiots without brains prove themselves so by trying to exploit "the final solution" for purposes that would recreate the environment of its occurrence.

Kinsella is well on the path to destroying himself. Some people are attempting to ensure that he will not take down the innocent in the process by giving him rope.

Bless you, Kate. You have done well.

As for the rest of you that are whinging and moaning "How dare Kate do this to the poor Jews..."

...are you freakin' STUPID?!

"Jacking off with your Left hand, huh guys?"

Have another breakfast margarita, Shaidle. You're still conscious.

Okay, YOU guys can have Tenebris for your side. No, really. Please.

Don't you have a Google AdSense scam to run, Balbulican? Oh, right, you don't. Anymore.

Bad week for lefties I'd say, and it's only Monday morning!

Its ironic that the various visiting Jews, leftists, and the generally thick, can't get it that was Warren (of the actionable "McMillan is a Saskatchewan-based bigot") who made the leap to the Holocaust (and btw - its not "the Holocaust Religion" - some of you are beginning to sound more like imams than Jews...).
Warren is responsible (well. irresponsible, mostly) for his own consequences. To suggest that poor Warren wasn't smart enough to see through this is to further embarrass the poor sop. To the rest of the bleaters, yes, the Holocaust was a hugely horrific tragedy, but not the only human tragedy this planet has faced. This wasn't about you, or the survivors.

but surely the humour in Kate's prank is in illustrating Warman Kinsella's modus operandi...he habitually takes the slenderest evidence and imbues it with major significance.....and what of the delicious irony in his much vaunted neo-nazi hunting prowess...he sees them EVERYWHERE does he not ?....yet he is incapable of detecting a genuine victim....neither on his own blog or on canada's Main street....this behaviour is symptomatic of the core problem conservative minded folks have with these leftistas.

and btw johndaly.....i only 'deseminate' with my wife thank you very much......so in the future please keep your filthy insinuations to yourself.....you neo-nazi hunters think you can treat us loser hicks any way you care to don't you ?

the only joke here is mcmillan and the clumsy oafs who drool over a shitty photo of kkkkate on her substitute penis while ignoring the twisted ego that thinks surviving the holocaust is funny.

Jeffy, pablum a bit to thick to swallow this morning? Maybe they'll untie your arms and let you eat it with a spoon tomorrow.

This is just great!
Thank you Kate!
Classic dufuss outing!

Kathy: I think you ought to use your website to illustrate how the Canadian Muslim community is "rife" with anti-Semitism. And since SDA is littered with literary experts (see comments about speling etc...) I'm certain folks will look up "rife" in the dictionary before proceeding...

Listen, folks: the issue isn't spelling. Is it? No. The issues have been free vs hate speech and currently what-was-Kate-thinking when she chuckled herself silly penning a concentration camp tattoo on her arm...

Lots of y'll are witty. Great. Funny too. That's not the point. You are not for tolerance. Most of you appear to be against tolerance. Or, more likely, you would like to keep the focus on the intolerance that exists within Islam, radical and otherwise.

What's the diff, please tell me. between Muslim and non Muslim intolerance?

Kinsella's a victim of his own rush to use others to further his goals of limiting free speech. Nothing more, nothing less. To quote Ezra (because he puts it so well):

Kate's prank was not an eloquent witticism. It was a blunt demonstration of Kinsella's lack of Internet street smarts, and of the double standard he himself holds when it comes to insensitive comments.

"No one ought to use Holocaust imagery as a joke to make a point."

How do you explain the headline last week

'White pride' website hails Victoria MP as hero

Liberal MP wins unwelcome praise from white supremacists for free speech stand.

This for someone thinking that maybe, just maybe the hate legislation in section 13, including the administrative process, may be granting a little too much power to unaccountable civil servants.

This is a black and white power play. Some people want to tell others how they should think. And will twist any truth, smear anyone's character to win their argument. This isn't about something that happened 65 years ago.

Derek

"What's the diff, please tell me. between Muslim and non Muslim intolerance?"

Millions of corpses.

Interesting to note the selective outrage. If this had been a bit of CBC satire, sanctioned and funded by the government, then the alleged cultural elite wuld have jumped to its hind legs to defend it. Anyone disagreeing would have been given a pitying smirk, and sentenced to watch endless tapes of Rick Mercer. A toronto star columnist would have condescendingly scolded people about how it was good because it raised awareness about the issue.
But it wasn't, so dullwitted - hi jeff! - people feel empowered to be outraged.

It was a blunt demonstration of Kinsella's lack of Internet street smarts, and of the double standard he himself holds when it comes to insensitive comments.

--Yes. Of course, that's not surprising, considering that Warren suffers from Liberal mental disorder.

Liberals have been getting away with worse than we're saying about them lately. Yet they squeal as if they're innocent victims!

'Kate's prank was not an eloquent witticism."

Very true. It was not.

So - we're now conceding it WAS Kate's prank? I no longer have to worry (cough) about being sued?

Damn. I was just going to bite the bullet and join Ezra's Union for protection.

you do realize that all you hateful idiots are also pyschopaths and sociopaths, right?

adolfs balllickers is what you pugs are.

I can't help thinking that this was a big mistake on your part.

"You are not for tolerance. Most of you appear to be against tolerance."

Bwaaaah ha ha ha ha ha ha hew wow...probably the most circular argument I've seen... unless there is some arcane mysticism to grasping the "true meaning" of blatant gibberish masquerading as moral exhibitionism.

Everyone is intolerant or we would not exist in this plane of reality...you seem pretty intolerant of dissenting opinion yourself.

so i'm a pug eh ?....so call me a mug a pug and a thug too...see if i care..as long as you don't call me a dirty Methodist.

This post is called,

Enriching Their Folklore

Folklore; (Merriam Webster 3'definition) an often unsupported notion, story, or saying that is widely circulated.

I do not know if this was her intent but I think Kate has succeeded in enriching Kinsella's (and the left's) folklore.

Now their folklore will include made up stories of Kate making fun of the Holocaust and being anti-Semite (definitely an unsupported notion)
when it is obvious she was making fun of Kinsella.

as the story is repeated to Liberal kids around a camp fire to scare them, expect some story embellishment with time.

that's all folks!

Interesting that the Leftists commenting are siding with a man who refuses to condemn the Islamofascists.

Can anyone provide a link to a Kinsella condemnation of Mohammed Elmasry's declaration that all Jews in Israel over 18 are legitimate targets for murder?

What about condemnation of Syed Soharwardy's call for Sharia Law to be the law of the land in Canada?

Where's Kinsella's condemnation of the intolerant, anti-Semitic Islamic fascists?

Well?

Jason, try harder. You've been clearly able to "help thinking" in the past. Think about this: where in Kate's post, is the Holocaust mentioned? This baby is entirely your bud's doing. Sucks to be named WK this morning.

"I can't help thinking that this was a big mistake on your part." Jason Cherniak

Jason you're fogettin, PET, gave Kate the right to free speech, you said so yourself. Now go away lest we Christians decide to sacrifice you first in order to expedite the 2nd coming.

Rich Fisher: The difference between Muslim and non million intolerance is a "few million corpses..." Really? When did the body count start?

JD, let’s talk “tolerance”, shall we?

SDAers are not in favour of hauling our ideological/political opponents before a state kangaroo court to "settle" our disputes, e.g., have the state do our dirty work by harassing and substantially punishing law abiding fellow citizens with whom we disagree. In fact, the position of most of us, which you somehow seem to have missed, is that there should be great latitude—the tolerance you claim to favour—for a wide spectrum of opinion, including that which is truly offensive.

Perhaps you haven’t noticed the invective of the Left towards those they perceive as their enemies—you know, David Suzuki’s call for politicians who don’t fall in lock step with his agenda should be jailed (ironically, that would have to include Dion, for sure!); Hedy Fry’s burning crosses, etc.

We believe that the best way to deal with offensive speech is to expose it and critique it. WK’s speech is often odious: note his latest insults to Kate. In fact, being offensive appears to be his modus operandi. Kate one upped him in his silly game and he fell for it.

JD asks, "What's the diff, please tell me. [sic] between Muslim and non Muslim intolerance?" A very, very short list:

1) Muslim intolerance—“We keeeell you”—is much more virulent than the non Muslim variety. E.g., Did you know that the imams who stirred up all the trouble in the ME about the ho-hum Danish cartoons—people were KILLED—INSERTED two really offensive ones, which really were odious and very different from the originals. (To my knowledge, one showed Mohammed with the face of a pig. The other showed a dog sodomizing a Muslim man bent over on prayer.) After faking the evidence, the imams then whipped up a lethal frenzy.

Imams all over the world, in their sermons and teachings, say the most vile things about Jews and other infidels. Check it out, JD.

2) In Canada, Muslims often choose to very intolerantly ignore and even contravene our conventions and laws (both “equality” and criminal)—think: hateful sermons and teachings, gross misogyny, including honour killings, taxi drivers refusing to transport booze or dogs, checkout clerks refusing to bag pork, etc., —while squeezing the last entitlement out of the state and expecting the “tolerance” of their fellow Canadians, without which their harassment of us would never be tolerated!

3) Muslims are also quite prepared to use the jackboot of the state, via our kangaroo courts, to go after those whose speech—pablum compared to the poison they spout—to harass and punish, at taxpayer expense, those whom they perceive to be their enemies. If they don’t like Levant’s or Steyn’s publications or opinions, why not argue their point of view persuasively so that people will side with them? What a novel idea for the Muslim leadership, who seem used to having tantrums and bullying their opponents. JD, I think I’d call THAT intolerance.

4) I’d also call Muslim intolerance altogether arrogant and hypocritical. They DEMAND rights and entitlements they’re willing to use the state to enforce, in order to deny the rights of host Canadians, whose good will allowed these people to be here in the fist place.

5) In short, for Muslims, tolerance is altogether a one way street: YOU tolerate whatever we say we want tolerated. And, BTW, we reserve the right to not tolerate anything we don’t wish to. Get used to it.

As I said, JD, this is a VERY short list, typed up on the spot. Couldn’t you have come up with examples like these? If not, why not?

Kate, thanks again this morning for pulling this off. I even see Kinsella's bosom buddy Cheriak here. I think the best part of the whole thing is the comments posted by the lefties, they are still so brainwashed that they are blaming you for Kinsella's outing, and outing it was, probably the best on the internet, truly worthy of a blog award. Of course the left have to rise up in defense of Kinsella, for they can never, ever admit that one of the salesmen that sold them the "Emperor's Clothes" has been nothing but one of a group of charlatans conning them for most of their adult live's. They can never admit to being conned so they are truly doomed to exist in their own little "Shangrila". I just wish that they would take their juvenile arguments back where Kinsella was taking pictures, where they belong.

All the lefty retards with their panties in a knot really makes my day.Now as a conservative voter I think I'll go to a lefty site and announce my outrage over....wait a minute,I have a life.

Too bad a post like this NEVER stays on topic!

Hey Warren !!!
Where does the fact that you are continually being shown as a fool and hypocrite go in your version of reality? Certainly does not seem to sink in between your ears.

Warren has his collection of responses up. Unsurprisingly everyone apparently agrees with him.

To all those writing here in support of the righteous Liberal Warren Kinsella, you should go do a bit of background research on how the Liberal Party of Canada has voted on UN resolutions with regards to Israel.

Now come back and tell me that the LPC or Warren K are deserving of the self appointed position of standing up for Jews.

Don't be fooled by the high dudgeon though, Warren is releived to no be talking about Richard Warman, HRC's and free speech - having had his hat handed to him by Kate, Kathy, Ezra and Steyn (not to mention in editorials) on a daily basis for the last couple of weeks.

Despite the obvious youth of the 'skin,' Kinsella, assumed it was indeed from a holocaust survivor. This assumption based on his arrogant championing of section 13.1. And more importantly his failure at it.

Therefore, he jumped at the conclusion. 'At last, vindication!'

However, he has a more important problem. In his supposed 'good fight', he backs the charges against both Levant and Steyn. Both charges brought by unmistakably anti-Semetic racists. Elmasry, for example, has publicly condoned killing all Israelis 18 and over. And the Calgary Imam peddles Shariah in Canada, which is legally defined and accepted anti-Semetism, amongst other 'legal' abominations against women and non-Muslims.

This is beyond hypocrisy. So, which is it Warren, are you an anti-Semitic racist, or do you just like holding two opposite opinions at the same time?

Warren has his collection of responses up. Unsurprisingly everyone apparently agrees with him.

Thanks for saving me a click to view what I knew would be the inevitable result of the individual-in-question's appeal to "right-think conservatives."

I'd like to think his moment of fame is nearly over.

I've said this before, but no hurt in reiterating the point. When Kinsella et al were leading the charge for Chretien during the 2000 election; Kinsella ridiculed Day's beliefs in Christianity and Creationism. Kinsella's ridicule of Day was witnessed nationwide and probably in some international regions as well.

It would be interesting to know how Kinsella would handle it if a complaint should be laid against him with the CHRC. I truly wonder if one should be brought forth.

Ward...the sound of chirping crickets will be the only response you'll get from the moonbats regarding your last post.

I See there is still a vast amount of confusion (Mostly coming from the left end of the gene pool) as to what this is all about.

It wasn't meant to be humorous...

It was meant to expose the venality of those who claim to be Canada's adhoc Simon Weisenthals...the nescient shallowness that cannot tell a genuine death camp tattoo from a Motorcycle serial number is the same shallow mentality that can't tell a Nazi from a popcorn fart....The special K cult are like malicious Keystone cops with way too much access to the administrative power to destroy lives with their deluded perspectives of anti-Semitism.

That's why the special K kids create the dream scape of "hate"...when true genocidal Nazis do not exist, one must manufacture them for one's own enrichment as a "nazi hunter". When anti-semitic intolerance DOES exist in a politically inconvenient locale, one ignores it and focuses instead on fly specs.

Grant Bristow and Lucy Warman know all about fabricating "hate". Radical Islam knows all about genocidal anti-Semitism….but the special K witch hunt cult ignores the inconvenient truth to sell the convenient myth.

It's also about the hypocrisy inherent in moral exhibitionism...which has been amply displayed here and elsewhere with moral crusaders engaging in a lot of their own "hating" and “intolerance”.

And it's about the morbid lack of perspective in the PC witch hunt cult demonstrated by interpreting Kate's campy prank as being akin to a crime against humanity.

Lastly it's about dual standards...the do as I preach not as I do mentality that will mock and condemn a Christian faith and publicly defame it's adherents (with purple dinosaur pranks or worse) which is so quick to label any criticism or commentary other than its own as "hate crimes".

As for Jews…this prank wasn’t about Jews, it was about exposing hypocritical sycophants who create civil injustice by reflexively reacting to false perspective.

For Holocaust survivors or victims the worst outrage you can do them is to allow shallow political opportunists use the injustice done them to justify more civil injustice.

Section 13 and its malevolent witch hunt cult have created civil injustice in the name of correcting civil injustice.

My quote above from the individual-in-question's comment should be "right-thinking conservatives."

Somehow I happened to be thinking of "group-think" as I wrote. I'm sure I don't know why.

This is one of the first times I have been to this blog and i just have to say that I can't figure out how anyone could think this is funny or even more bizarrely "genius"?

All it shows to me is unusual behavior. If i got an e-mail like that as a joke from someone I hardly knew i would consider it frightening in how far it was. Imagine getting that in the e-mail as a joke?

At best this is an example of great idiocy. And it is obvious that it is such.

Cue the indignation,cue the"I'll never visit this site again".Moonbats are so typical.

To those who state we should not belittle the Holocaust, I say: Get a grip! Are we supposed to speak in hushed tones, with our heads down and then say a little prayer everytime the Holocaust is mentioned? Not a chance!

The Holocaust was horrible, an utter depravity, a symbol of how low humans can sink. BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE! What about Vietnam? Rwanda? Russia? Darfur? Iraq? Armenia? Are we supposed to live our lives speaking about THOSE occurrences in hushed tones, with our heads down and saying a little prayer?

What about the Viking raids? What about the Roman invasions of Europe and Britain? What about the Spanish invading Central America?

Why stop there? What about slavery in the States? Muslim atrocities? Christian atrocities? Secular atrocities?

Pretty soon, once you've compiled a list of all the terrible things that humans have done to one another, you'll find that there is NOTHING you can talk about!

So, I will NOT stop talking about the Holocaust anyway I choose. Would I make fun of it? NO! Just like I wouldn't make fun of ANY of the OTHER atrocities committed by mankind.

As far as this prank goes, I just cannot see how Kate's prank makes light of the Holocaust in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. If you think so, I suggest that there is a problem with your perception.

Please, detractors...do tell. EXACTLY HOW does this prank make fun of or belittle the Holocaust? Other than she didn't do it in hushed tones, with her head down and saying a little prayer? She showed the Wicked Wizard of Spin a tattoo of a number and let him do the rest...the problem lies with Kinsella, not Kate.

Get a grip! Get a clue! Get a sense of humour!

I say, bravo Kate!

Lookout: I'll read your post and respond when I have a moment, later. If it's serious, that is. If it's the usual smartass stuff that attempts to pass itself off as commentary here, then I'll pass, thanks...

I would very much like to know: where is Kate?

"If i got an e-mail like that as a joke from someone I hardly knew i would consider it frightening in how far it was."

Um, "David Tudor" - if that is your real name, Warren Kinsella - your irrational fears are not the concern of the masses. Have you tried an adult diaper such as Depends? Do what the rest of us do and cope and stop whining like a titty baby.

Christians and Muslims get insulted every day here at SDA and elsewhere; it's time for some people to get off the short bus and stop the pathetic whining.

However, David Tudor,

Had you read some of the comments prior to yours, you might have a better perspective.

Warren Kinsella is championing proven anti-Semetic racists in their charges against Levant and Steyn.

Is this acceptable?

He is also an associate and supporter of Richard Warman, who pulls entrapment pranks on Nazi websites, posing as a racist and uttering unbelievably anti-Semetic racist comments. As well as writing racist comments against Ann Cools.

Is this acceptable?

Kinsella has also publicly and in the press ridiculed prominent politicians, such as Stockwell Day, simply because of their Christian faith.

Is this acceptable?

While he feels he has the right to freely support racists and make unbelievably bigoted comments in public, he wants to shut down free speech for the rest of us.

This is what the slithering snake, Kinsella, is all about.

Despite the obviousness of the prank, he gladly assumed that this motorbike 'serial number' was from a holocaust survivor and posted it in an attempt to show his own self-serving vindication.

The fact of the matter is, how can he be vindicated from his outright support and championing of anti-Semetic racists? How can anybody show support for the bigot, Kinsella, when he publicly derides a politician, simply because he is a Christian? At the very least, how can anybody take this person's side when he holds two opposing viewpoints at the same time?

The question remains, is Warren Kinsella a racist bigot? And if it takes something like this to force his unsavoury, racist and bigoted actions and statements into the spotlight, then so be it.

I almost felt bad because it was like clubbing a baby seal. Actually, it was different than that. It was like giving a baby seal a club and watching it beat itself...

You can read the e-mail exchange between "Eitan" and Kinsella here: http://no-libs.com/?p=2129

"Now their folklore will include made up stories of Kate making fun of the Holocaust"

It does seem to fit in nicely with Kate's documented bigotry towards native people, blacks, arabs and muslims.

Kind of like...y'know...a pattern?...a trend..a Leitmotiv? (that's German), if you will.

"frightening in how far it was"

Grover, on Sesame Street, doing his "Near" and "Far" schtick must have been unbearably life altering for you Dave.

Fear NOT those radical muppets Dave, we are "near".

Eeyore, bravo. Exactly what I was thinking.

Some perspective....

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/books/2003673065_myholocaust22.html?syndication=rss

... and some humour to offend everyone...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python

Comments reposted at www.warrenkinsella.com:

• Sandy [Crux-of-the-Matter]: As a Blogging Tory and a slightly to the right thinker, I am appalled at what Kate at Small Dead Animals has done. Right or left thinking has absolutely nothing to do with being a racist or making light of the Holocaust. Or, at least it shouldn't. What possible gain can anyone get at trying to make a fool out of a fellow blogger -- no matter what our political differences? While someone may disagree with WK from time to time, and I do regularly, why on earth in the name of good taste and decency, is it necessary to embark on some kind of gotcha operation like this? When I was in barely out of my teens, during 1961, I spend some time studying in Toronto. I had a flat in a house where the woman of the house was in Israel for most of the year I was there. Both she and her husband had numbers on their arms. Their story was horrendous and yet they survived with grace and dignity. She was away because she was a witness at the trial of Adolf Eichmann. No, there is nothing funny or satirical in what Kate did. For shame!
• Ezra Levant: Kate's is not a prank I would have done. I've been to Yad Vashem too often to be irreverent about tattoos on Holocaust survivors. I'll grant Kinsella that it was humour in questionable taste.
• A.L. Wudrick: Kate made a joke in extremely bad taste. I don’t find it funny at all. I think she’s making light of a serious factual historical tragedy. I think it’s insulting to Jews, and shows poor judgment. It suggests she’s more interested in making Warren Kinsella look stupid than demonstrating she has any compassion for survivors of the Holocaust.
• Damian Penny: …this one really left a bad taste in my mouth…I'm sure Kate's intent was to make Kinsella look ridiculous, not to make light of the Holocaust. But if some "anti-Zionist" blogger pulled the same kind of trick on me, I know what conclusions I'd be inclined to draw. This was completely uncalled for.

Ooooh, but don't criticize her because, because, because... Muslims are all BAD.

What a moron you may have shown him to be, but at the cost of showing yourself and you supporters to be just as moronic and, frankly worse, willing to stoop to any pitiable level just to score a point.

Not to write too big a picture out of this insensitive prank of pretending to be a Holocaust survivor ("speaks for itself"), but this is a big reason why people like McCain and Obama are poised to take over. Ordinary folks are just getting so sick of the uber-partisans where anything goes and does if it is for our side.

Cue the indignation.

Catchy handle, i'm done with SDA. Been posting here for awhile?

The "planned spontaneity" (a phrase used in all seriousness by a school superintendent I once worked for) and general uniformity of these indignant responses in that other website I promised myself I wouldn't visit - sigh - unwittingly encapsulate certain liberals' views of how "free speech" should work, i.e.

A target group is selected carefully for reponses. "Please complete the following statement: "I'm a real conservative and I'm outraged..."

It is all screened carefully before the great unwashed, are allowed to view it. This also allows the "screener" to quote out-of-context as it suits his purposes (e.g. Ezra Levant). It likewise enables him to display the most grotesque, despicable and insulting responses in opposition to his own views for obvious reasons. Prissy apologies about the language emanate in this case from a Shi**er from Heck.

The result? Controlled free speech appropriate for the masses, if not exactly Fair and Balanced.

Wow, thanks Kate, this has been so entertaining!

all the righteous indignation about making "fun" of the Holocauset is rubbish nonsense. I have a suspicion that all those around here worried about offending dead Jews, do not defend today's living Jews who are this minute fighting for survival.

I have been following this site for probably 2 years now and Kate is a strong defender of Israel and friend of Jews.

and as Ezra pointed out, remember "The Producers"?

Lookout: We are at crosspurposes here, but you've taken the time and put in some effort, so let me try and respond in a may that is satisfactory (and I am going to assume, against the odds, that you are really interested in an exchange of ideas...)-

You have listed a number of examples of Muslim abuse of tolerance. I could, but probably won't vet each one. If we were going to be scientific that would be the way to go. I don't think that's useful. Instead I would challenge you to present those kinds of examples in this context: what percentage of the total population of Muslims living in Canada are preaching the kind of hatred and intolerance you have cited and/or taking advantage of our tolerance and returning that tolerance with their own mean-spirited and Muslim centric approach.

I believe that it's the minority of Muslims that engage in the kind of stuff you are talking about. At least here, in this country.

How does Christianity treat women? How does the Catholic church treat women? Now and in the past?

I don't favour the kind of human rights tribunals you have described and I do favour the approach of discussion, as one method of promoting increased tolerance, all the way around.

If we go through all the posts on this thread and exclude those that (and I am guilty of this)employ insults (moonbats, leftards, rightwing rednecks etc) then we are left with a much smaller sampling of worthwhile opinion.

I may misunderstand the definition of "bigot". I don't think I do. I have used the word as a descriptor. What I mean is this: I believe that Kate McMillan and the majority of those who are voicing support for her "prank" on Kinsella, think less of Muslims. Think that Muslims are worse than or less than non Muslims.

It's not an argument, in my view, to distract from that observation by insisting that Muslims are worse.

Lookout: So I agree we have something to fear in radical Islamism. I also think we have lots to fear in radical born again bring on the end of days Christianity...

Lots of folks here, slick writers and punsters and worshippers of Henny Youngman, will dismiss that world view as "moonbat moral equivalence..." Of this I am certain; anyone, no exceptions, who is employing insults in their presentation of opinion (myself included) is uncomfortable with the strength of that position.

And I am sincerly interested in hearing what Kate has to say about all of this...

John Daly:

Kinsella had already introduced the Nazi angle to the free speech debate he was losing. The next step was to introduce the Holocaust angle with himself positioned on the righteous moral high ground.

He invoked Godwins law with no urging and would advanced the Holocaust angle as well had Kate sent him the image or not.

Kate short circuited his attempt to misdirect the free speech debate by sending him the image, and made him look like a fool in the process.

Hardy a joke. More like checkmate or game, set and match.

"I have a suspicion that all those around here worried about offending dead Jews, do not defend today's living Jews who are this minute fighting for survival."

You're very wrong on that point, ex-liberal... I certainly don't fit into your assumption.

A few interesting points in reading these comments...

1) I actually agree with Jason Cherniak on something... scary.

2) When people have accused us on the right of being red-neck buffons, I've always given my fellow conservatives the benefit of the doubt. Now... I'm not so sure my trust has been well placed.

3) It's a real shame to see how many hateful and insulting comments have been left here by so-caled "conservatives", instead of talking about the real issues at hand.

4) It looks like a large number of my fellow "conservatives" need to grow up...

I have yet to be presented with evidence that Warren Kinsella condemns bigoted Islamists like, for example, Syed Soharwardy and Mohammed Elmasry. Does he favor terrorism against Jews over 18 in Israel? Does he favor the intolerant, violent Sharia Law? If the response to those questions is "no", then he should be able to, in the same breath, condemn those two Muslim extremists as "bigots" on his blog. He has no problem condemning white bigots as bigots, so why can't he condemn non-white bigots as such?

How come Warren only seems to go after hateful people only when they're "white"? Does he go after hateful Arabs and hateful dark-skinned racists, etc? Anyone have any evidence that he ever has? And how much, relative to his hunting of imaginary Nazis, including in male defecatoria?

I think that maybe Warren, out of state-apparatus brainwashing and delusion, hates himself for being white, therefore he goes after anyone white who sounds as if they don't feel guilty at all for having been born that way. He never seems to go after anyone who's not white, straight, kafir, etc... Is Kinsella a self-loathing racist?

Whatever he is, he desperately needs psychiatric help before he harms himself.

So, Warren, are ya going to Disney World? TO is freezing and the Canadian $ is at par. Could play in the sun while gathering material to mock Johnny Reb and snowbird Yankees. Ya'll pro'bly could use a break right about now.

We Canadians seem too trusting / naive as a group.

We voted for the little tough guy from Shawinnigan who was out of touch on the golf course while Quebec almost became *New France* and his security awareness was so poor, some jerk was able to crawl into his bedroom.

All the while he was in the company of spin doctor mr. K. One glance at Mr K*s choice of [Music?] on his blog should be reason for instant dismissal.

There remains today a block of emotional, as in NOT logical, Canadians who would vote for the corrupt Liberal gang spawned by the crook from Shawinigate.

What is wrong with Canadians anyway? = TG

PS: Hardly preeching, I voted for the little bastard with the sense of humour, at the time too. = TG

We Canadians seem too trusting / naive as a group.

We voted for the little tough guy from Shawinnigan who was out of touch on the golf course while Quebec almost became *New France* and his security awareness was so poor, some jerk was able to crawl into his bedroom.

All the while he was in the company of spin doctor mr. K. One glance at Mr K*s choice of [Music?] on his blog should be reason for instant dismissal.

There remains today a block of emotional, as in NOT logical, Canadians who would vote for the corrupt Liberal gang spawned by the crook from Shawinigate.

What is wrong with Canadians anyway? = TG

Kate, I'm going to cast my gauntlet into this ring 'o fire. My points in order are:

1. BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!

2. The only person I've ever known who had one of those tattoos for real was in Tai Chi with me back in the grand old days. He'd have approved of your letting some hot air out of Warren the Gas Bag.

3. Eat blue smoke, Warren.

Skip at 9:43 am sums it up pretty well regarding Warren and his own consequences.

Kate has essentially demolished Warren's credibility on the blogosphere, which he appeared to bring onto himself.

Great work Kate at SDA.

Listed just a few successes of SDA.

Lorne Calvert's socialist government - gone!

CBC Lewand - gone!

CBC- Krista Erickson - gone!

CBC faux photoshopped smoke stacks - gone!

Global warming suspect temperature reading sites -outed.

Warren Kinsella petard hoisting - currently under way and virtually complete!

HRC/ Warman / Keith Martin - Warren Kinsella --- Fournier, Steyn, Levant debacle currently under scrutiny.

The one of course that desrves repeating is the demolishing of an inflated ego and in the blogosphere.

Blog Warren - Credibility gone!

Soooo,

If I go to right wing sites and pretend to be something I'm not; to bait the posters, I'm a brave champion of minorities against hate speech.

But..

If I go to liberal/left sites and pretend to be something I'm not; to bait posters, I'm a racist, bigot.

Neato

Geez Kate,

I missed listing the outing of Canadian Press for the 'yellow journalism' just a week or so ago!

chris:

Huh?

Either all have free speech or none have free speech.

Kinsella has gone on record as having some innate ability to define what type of free speech is hateful and which isn't.

That seems like ‘free speech for me and not those who oppose me.'

I believe there is no such ‘right' as the right not to be offended.

If that offends you, suck it up.

I see from the comments that all the right people hate this. Lots of predictable uses of the word "bigot" and kkkate and stuff like that.

I'd just like to address all you selectively tolerant types and your faux outrage with one observation.

One of the two people involved here posted a picture of a "Nazi" tattoo on their blog to bolster their political position. This person believes that the Canadian Human Rights Commissions are a good thing and should be prosecuting the likes of Ezra Levant and Mark Steyn. He believes the government should be able to control what people say in the internet, on TV, on the radio and in print. That's what he's posted this picture in support of.

The other one sent an email to a guy she thinks is a dangerous idiot. And he's proved her RIGHT.

Flame on, goofs.

I find Kate's prank a bit tasteless and off-colour but anti-Semitic it isn't.

Does anyone else find it funny that the leftards don't see anything wrong with Kinsella using the Holocaust as his personal ego-stroke but bash Kate for illustrating kinsella's "abundance of self-esteem"?

Especially given that the left is the source of anti-Semitism in the west - see Israel boycotts by campus leftards and unions, anti-Semitic ed cartoons in the guardian, Torstar, etc

It's western conservatives who support the Jews and who support Israel and don’t hold them up to standards which no one else is held. This is crocodile tears by lying, hypocritical leftards who took time out of their busy Jew-bashing schedule to call Kate an anti-Semite. Well bugger them and the chip on their shoulder.

Ex-Liberal,

"I have a suspicion that all those around here worried about offending dead Jews, do not defend today's living Jews who are this minute fighting for survival."

How right you are. These wretches make unfounded accusations of racism and bigotry on one hand, while marching in Hezbollah parades, condemning Israel, spewing anti-Zionist rants and supporting Islamofascist racist freaks against Steyn and Levant - on the other.

Disgusting.

John Daly,

"So I agree we have something to fear in radical Islamism. I also think we have lots to fear in radical born again bring on the end of days Christianity..."

The difference is, Mr. Daly, the Islamic ideology is foundationally violent as proven in their trilogy, with special consideration given to the words and actions of their prophet (who all Muslims are commanded to emulate).

Of course, and fortunately, the majority of Muslims are nominal (having been born Muslim and nothing more), either do not know their own texts, or have chosen not to follow all of the commands.

It is also true that Muslims are the first to fall victim to the ideology, with particular emphasis on females.

But for all the hand wringing about 'moderate' Islam and Islamism, Robert Spencer recently pointed out:

"For if Islam itself is a wholly positive entity, then one would not expect those who take it only in moderation to be the heroes of the piece. The idea that Islam becomes benign only when the Muslim in question imbibes of it sparingly suggests that it contains within it the elements that make it so often not benign."

What are the "elements that make it so often not benign."

Well for starters, all Islamic sects use and teach from exactly the same texts - Uthman's Quran, the aHadith and Sira. None of which are moderate.

The actions and sayings of Mohammad are a huge problem, especially since Muslims are commanded to follow him. However, so are the texts.

From a recent exchange between two different Islamic reformers
(Thomas Haidon and Muslims against Shariah):

Haidon: “You have arbitrarily taken verses out of the Qur'an.”
That is not correct.

MAS: "We provide reasons why we removed the verses."

Haidon: “why not instead use the brain Allah gave you to try and chellenge the traditional understandings of these verses.”

MAS: "There is no point in challenging the understanding of “kill them [infidels] wherever you find them”. This is a clear call to genocide. Claiming otherwise is no better than whitewashing terrorism. These verses MUST be removed."

The second part of your statement is false and not valid.

The Christian ideology is exactly the opposite of Islam. Neither the NT, nor Christ's life example support any sort of violence, regardless of unscrupulous men taking such actions under the banner. The Christian ideology is not foundationally violent, it is the opposite. The NT was not changed, revised, or reformed in the slightest, based on violence, because it didn't need to be.

"Love they neighbour as thy self." And, "Do unto others..." Are two vital Christian tenants that are not in Islam.

Furthermore, name these "radical, born again Christians" and the attrocities that they have commited. I'd like to know.

Therefore, if you are as intelligent as you'd like others to believe, you might understand that your equivalence argument is false.

You might also apologise for the insults and claims of racism and bigotry, slamming everybody on this board.

set you free:

This whole 'fake poster' schtick was 'kick ass' as long as Richard Warman was doing it. He even acted like a real racist and posted some awful things. Then he complained about what he posted.

Kinsella thought this was fair ball.

Now, someone (Kate maybe? She's not saying it was her arm.) sent him an email with a serial number in ball point ink, nowhere near 1940's German script, with the wrong number of numbers, and a letter that wasn't used, in the wrong spot.

Kinsella jumps to the conclusion he wants. But that's not the point.

Now, he is supremely offended by the content of the post, not the intent.

Remember, we have to ignore Warman's content because his intent is so noble.

But, now we have to ignore Kate's (or whomever's)intent, and condemn her content.

Classic Liberal double-standard.

Sadly, Warren the Kinsella did not check his sources. This must be the first and only time his sources have been inaccurate. How sad that his record of perfection has be besmirched. But it is OK. It is not Warren the Kinsella's fault that he was fooled; Warren says so. Warren needs a hug.

Right on Chris. WK is offended at being exposed as a puffed up bag of wind. I'm of the opinion he doesn't really care a damn about the Holocaust except as a way to bash his political opponents.

When Ezra Levant, the guy who ran the freakin' Mohammed cartoons, for God's sake, actually puts into black and white that "Kate's is not a prank I would have done," then it's pretty damned clear you've gone too far.

Chrissy...the moment you claimed to be a conservative who felt the need to admonish us fellow conservatives regarding Kate's post,you reached Kinsella heights of credibility.

Uh? set you free? Are you awake? Read chris' comment again. S l o w l y.

His point is exactly what you are saying.

Sooo, what do you think people? Notice how wk neatly sums up my alleged views and prejudices by claiming that the last pissant quoted sums up everyone here? The truly sad part is that wk can't even see the irony in how with his vitriol against any who disagree with his pathetic little point of view vis-a-vis "hate speech" is by his own definition hate speech. Poor warren. Funny that 99% of Liberal sympathizers make the other 1% look bad.

What Chris said at 2:58 PM . That's another excellent point for all to ponder, particularly the LEftists, including WArren himself.

Another double standard identified.

Very good analysis, Chris.

I'd ask Warren why he, if he's supposed to be a human rights champion, isn't standing up for the Falun Gong, who are experiencing a holocaust right now in China.

The Chinese Communist Party has been engaged this year in a sort of "Final Solution" of their own against their own most inconvenient innocent people, the Falun Gong.

So how come Warren isn't going after the Chinese Communist bigots? They're just as horrendous as the Nazis.

Then again, maybe Warren's so blinded by his own zealotry in hunting down white bigots, real and imagined, that he winds up leaving other kinds of bigots alone, no matter how inhumanely horrible they're behaving, like Islamic fascists and the Chinese Communists killing inconvenient people and harvesting their organs (something Warren MUST know about, as a fellow Liberal, David Kilgour, is all over the issue).

I just cannot accept Warren's claim that he's a "human rights champion". It's impossible, because his own actions and words (and lack thereof wrt many issues) make it so.

His worldview is extremely, zealously narrow, his vision myopic, and he lacks any self-insight, rendering him incapable of correcting his errors and faults.

It's a liberal/left/progressive thing.

A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.

So is making fun of moonbats.

Sentinel:

Here's one possible reason why WK is not interested in going after Chinese human rights violations:

http://www.primetimecrime.com/contributing/2005/20050120Gray.htm

It might upset "da liddle guy from Shawinigan".

Sean, the Chicoms have [gasp!] human rights violations?!!! How can this be?! They aren't White! And besides, Mo Stlong promised they would be good.

Naughty girl, picking on the politically retarded again. Speaking as someone who has, from time to time written a note on my hand, with a black ink ball point pen... the photo W.K. received was more like a kid's drawing than a tattoo. Then he didn't even bother to vet the number. The Liberal brain trust is as empty as an echo chamber.

Don't feed the troll...

Let me remind everyone that we should not feed the trolls. There have been a few of the new visitors worth responding to but the majority have been of the scroll and ignore variety.

Sean, good point.

Chretien and Mo Strong have strong business interests in China. Very tight with the evil Communists.

Kinsella, being a made member of the Chretien/Strong LibMob, cannot stand up for the human rights of people (ie. Falun Gong and other "inconvenient" people) targeted by those (the Chinese Communist Party) who keep his masters (Chretien/Strong) happy and rich. It makes sense.

Thanks for reminding me, Sean.

Looks like mob loyalty and money are most important for most Liberals, not human rights.

Don't ever forget Kinsella's a Liberal- it explains a lot.

I'd be remiss, however, to praise the few Liberals who actually DO care about human rights, like David Kilgour (for standing up to the Chinese Communists for their atrocities) and Keith Martin (for defying his own party to stand up for everyone's right to freedom of expression).

Warren Kinsella doesn't impress me in the least wrt human rights. Not at all. It's an act that isn't fooling anyone, this only going after a tiny number of disgusting bigots who happen to always be white, interestingly. That's all he does- go after a handful of white assholes. Not good enough, because not all hateful bigots and racists are white, but apparently he's too messed up in the head to realize this!

Does Warren Kinsella actually think that only whites can possibly be hateful, bigoted, racist, etc.?

Kate, where are you?

Seriously, your goons are all mentally undressing you at their computer desks, praising you and your "genius". The least you can do is offer them a topless shot.

Don't have the cojones to come back out and comment on your work? No Kathy Shaidle type Mea Culpa?

Until you do say something, the peasants are just going to have to do your work for you eh?

Its almost beyond belief that both conservatives and liberals (and Jews, too) here don't see the obvious in this event. Rushing to condemn Kate for sending an "ideologically unattached" email to WK, and not equally condemning Warren for attaching an specific ideology to it, for his purposes, is both hypocritical and bizarre - lot of "ideologues of convenience" here.

But what is most disconcerting, are the number of conservatives and liberals (and Jews, too) here don't see Warren for what he really is: an opportunist (he's projected the clue for years - at his age, why do you think he has a punk rock band?). Warren is a champion of only one thing: Warren Kinsella.
Spinning the Liberal party for the Chretien mob was an opportunity, and he took it. The swastika event, and his whole career, if you look through it, is about seizing opportunity for Warren Kinsella. Warren doesn't threaten people with lawsuits for what they say about other people, only what they say about Warren Kinsella.
This tattoo event was entirely predictable; Kate knew it, because she gets who Warren Kinsella is. Warren doesn't stand for anything, except Warren Kinsella. A chameleon, he'll be what the market will bear.

"Does Warren Kinsella actually think that only whites can possibly be hateful, bigoted, racist, etc.?"

Yes.

It is called Liberal Racism, or sometimes soft racism, but it is racism nonetheless.

As practiced by Warren Kinsella.

Not to speak for Kate, but I think she made the only point that she intended to by the initial post...

Of course KKKate thinks the Holocaust is just a repository of comedy gold.

Didn't ya see the quote on Kinsella's site where she's in favour of genocide against black people?

The Greek nailed it. So many of you don't get SDA. Kate says very little - for the most part she keeps her opinions to herself. She posts topics of personal and general interest or current events, and she lets the mob run with it. SDA is a hall of mirrors - what it reflects are the posters' own biases, prejudices, viewpoints and delusions. Contributors will stand or fall on their own merits, not ecause of what Kate says or does.

Again, to beat the gong one more time: WK attached the rope, and hauled himself high up on his own petard. All Kate did was say to Warren, "Hi, have a rope."

Volik, I wouldn't believe a bloody word Kinsella writes. He's a propagandist, a spin doctor. And a poor one at that.

Maybe Kate took up that marriage proposal from Doug at 12:14:

"Kate, you are so hot!
If you are ever interested in a 37 year old classical musician of Italian origin, single, no kids, you let me know.
PS if we got married you could become a US citizen too."

Besides, Volik, I don't see Kinsella condemning the genocides against blacks by blacks, nor against blacks by Muslims, that's happening all the time in Africa.

He instead goes after some brainless white bigotards on some crappy-ass website. That's all he does.

The Canadian Sentiel said: "Does Warren Kinsella actually think that only whites can possibly be hateful, bigoted, racist, etc.?"

'Course not. WK believes no such thing. What he believes is that there's constituency of morons who DO believe it, and he's pandering to them. Given the idiots defending him here today, he would appear to be right about that.

What makes Kate's gag here so deliciously eeeevile is that KinSueYa is really -bad- at it. Here he is pompously declaiming about the sacred Holocaust, but he doesn't even know what a German "7" looks like.

BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!! This is GREAT!

Jeezus, Phantom, calm down. You come off like a four year old.

Over at the courtyard bully’s place the self proclaimed “kickasser” is now whimpering behind a wall of “supporters”.

I’m not the bad one Kate’s the bad one! Even people that mock me say she’s the bad one not me. Just ask them it’s her, it’s her, not me. She started it not me. I didn’t do a thing.

For the sake of Warren’s long suffering wife and family best leave him alone. His sniveling is getting a bit sad.

Hey, what’s Dr. Fruitfly up to?

Sure thing Johnny baby, whatever. Question is, style aside, am I wrong?

Unlike Warren KinSpoofYa, I've actually seen one of those numbers. Not something you forget.

I find it interesting that the mean ol' Phantom Bigot guy knows people with The Number but the Great WK, Saviour of All That Is Good, apparently doesn't.

I find it hilarious that he'd get suckered by his own self-inflatedness this way. Awesome!

Actually some people here should look up the term "petard"...... it's got nothing to do with ropes or other contraptions.
A petard was the type of explosive device employed in breaching gates or battlements before artillery came into use. The earliest were pottery that was filled with black powder and fused with a powder filled or coated wick.
The way it was used in breaching a gate was to have a man run up to the portal to be breached and light the bomb. In order to reduce the time exposed to enemy fire the bomber would balance that risk against that of premature detonation and try to time the crude fuse by lighting it before the dash of death.
Predictable results ..... bomber getting blown sky high ... thus HOIST on his own Petard!

The correct use of the metaphor is in the context of the victim being the author of his own demise by way of rashness and premature engagement.

So Kinsella has seen things blow up in his face!

Do.Not.Feed.The.Trolls.

It's what these demented fools want. Ignore them, and they go away to resume their pathetic lives...

Kate

I salute you. That was brilliant! Kinsella is a first class buffoon, and it amazes me how some people commenting here (ADS, John Daly)STILL don't get it.

Well here is the link for "Lucy's" testimony before a human rights tribunal

http://www.freedominion.com/images/transcript.gif

The document should be available to the public from an official source if you care to confirm.

Heck there is even a special website dedicated to Richard located here http://richardwarman.com/

With all things on the internet I suggest they bve taken with a grain of salt, trust but verify.

When I was a lad of ten in Kitchener Ontario, I accompanied my Dad to a local tailors where he wanted to get something altered. The tailor had a series of numbers tatooed on his arm. After we left the store I asked my Dad why he had that on his arm. Dad explained it to me and I felt sorry for the guy.This man, by all appearances was a friendly and amicable person. It struck me even as a child that he had been through one of the worst horrors that could befall anyone, but that he had survived and was jubilant that he was in a country that accepted him and allowed him the freedom to do what he wanted. It was my first and only experience with a Jew who survived the Nazi horror. I cannot speak for him but, I truly believe he would have approved of Kate's action.
He was free to speak about it. He was free to express himself and he was free to practice his religion without fear or favour.
That is what democracy is. Beware the WK's and his ilk. They are not your friends.

Interesting how there are those (mostly) Leftists who fail to understand what Kate actually did in this post.

They attack what they want to believe was her intent. They want to believe that it was to mock the Holocaust.

Oh, bullshit. Don't be stupid, folks.

What she was doing was proving a point about Kinsella, and a number of smarter commentors have explained what that was.

You know, if a Leftist had done a stunt like that, the LEftists would be praising that Leftist for his/her alleged "brilliance".

But do they praise Kate's brilliance over Warren's imbecility and cluelessness? Nope- they just see an opportunity to, once again, attack a non-Leftist who dares to make an inconvenient point about a Leftist.

Kate masterfully manipulated Kinsella, effectively shattering the illusion of Warren's perceived intelligence, exposing him as a fraud. And she demonstrated that he's desperate to grasp, without first verifying, at anything that comes along to try to bolster his failing position.

Too bad the Left doesn't want to accept that yet another of their own is a fraud and not what he claims to be, which, in this case, is supposedly an "anti-racism" activist.

Anti-racism activist? Warren Kinsella? Please! All the guy ever does is rant about whitey bigotards on some stupid website or in some bathroom somewhere or whatever, while ignoring all other kinds of bigots, racists, evildoers... who don't happen to be "white". That's pathetic and transparent.

A true anti-racism activist goes after ALL kinds of racists, not just racists of Caucasian persuasion. If the self-professed anti-racist refuses to acknowledge that non-whites can be and sometimes are racists and refuses to condemn them and go after them to take away their free speech rights, too, then the person is a fraud... and a racist himself, even though he's the same race as those he goes after!

Too bad Leftists are too daft to understand, however.

Diane Francis wrote a good article exposing just how supportive the Liberals (and in 2001 -the time of this article - WK was a big player in the party) were of Jews.

Kinsellas Jewish/Holocaust bona fides don't look nearly quite so authentic when juxtaposed against this. And this is but one example.

http://christianactionforisrael.org/un/liberalbias.html

some one is gunning for No.1 poster

Hey Kinsella, ever hear of DAS MAUS? Bet that comic strip pissed you off too. Oh wait, you were too busy being a punk rocker to really delve deeper into the social scene of the days. You have been outed as the Pompous Pretentious Poser you are!

Oh Sentinel -

I don't think she was specifically trying to mock the holocaust.

She was just using it as a 'prop' in her little prank.

In a way, that's something infinitely more disturbing.

It's not a tragic or monstrous thing to her. Merely a prop, a token she can use to make her point.

She's so colossally divorced from its horror that she thinks it's something to be used as an instrument of fun.

That very same soulless insensitivity goes hand in hand with her calling for genocide against black people, or her hatred for Muslims, black people, and Native people.

(can ANYONE remind me again how this site is different from the garden variety white supremacist's site?)

Volik, go tell it to Kinsella.

He uses the same image as a prop to shore up his 'nazi hunter' cred.

When Kinsella does it it's fine.
When Kate does it it's 'anti-semitic.

Neither suffered the Holocaust.
Both used it's images albeit fake.

One is a defender of human rights.
One is a anti-semitic bigot.

Classic Liberal double standard.

Actually Volik it the Holocaust card was one that he was going to play anyway. Kate saw it coming and came up with a sting to expose Kinsella and his playing of the Holocaust card for the self serving, exploitive move that it was. And used an obvious looking fake to do it with which makes Kinsella look all the more foolish.

Warrens co-opting of the Holocaust to use as a stick to beat his oppontents with, when his Liberal government voted for virtually every anti Israel resolution to come down the pipe at the UN, is hypocracy writ about as large as it gets.

Best thread in ages. Agree or disagree with the tattoo post, it still exposes WK as the dimwit he really is. The trolls can't get past the mock outrage of PC-think to see it for what it is, the best lampoon of a public figure in a long, long time.

this statement speaks volumes:

"How right you are. These wretches make unfounded accusations of racism and bigotry on one hand, while marching in Hezbollah parades, condemning Israel, spewing anti-Zionist rants and supporting Islamofascist racist freaks against Steyn and Levant"

No but it does lend some insight into his feckless tasteless prank on Christians and Stockwell Day.

I see there's suddenly a lot of members of Kinsella Youth here spreading Big Lies.

Herr Kinsella must be proud of them. I'm sure he'll promote them to Brownshirts in a hurry!

I want to thank Kate, her readers and commentors. I've had more hits related to my participation in this donnybrook the last two days than...ever probably.

Let me leave with this little bag of wisdom: all this left/right stuff has become irrelevant. Don't you think? How many are really interested or invested in partisan politics anymore? So the myriad insults intended to demean a person's partisan political preference seem a waste of time.

A few of y'all are very funny, though. Maybe some stand up gigs would be good on the weekends. Finally, on the issues of racism and bigotry, you know what they say about the Foo, right? See you in the cartoons. I'll check in to see if Kate comes out of the witness protection program anytime soon....

No doubt, John Daly, a childish link-whore like you would not get ANY hits, if you were not such a childish parasite.

All right, guys. Stop feeding the troll.

So while queen kinsella is our scouring arena bathrooms for some merit, any merit, not even fussy if it ain't his own, his merry band of junior sock puppets comment on this site like rapid little skunks?

Hee hee!

They always name call when losing face on point.
Always.
Wish they'd find a new tactic, yawn, it's getting old.

Heading for a more adult thread where these babies are seldom heard from. ( or not for long anyway )

www.no-libis.com

WLMR: Hey CC perhaps if you took the time to spell "holocaust" correctly you moral concern over it's use as a political football may have some validity.

Um, that should be "your", and "its".. people in glass houses...

sorry kate,
www.no-libs.com

Kate,

I used to have an RD-400. I could get air in the first five gears (often unintentionally!). One time, travelling from Toronto to London, I took advantage of a tailwind and big hill to get it up to 120 mph. That's the fastest I've ever moved without being on an airplane!

But then I got scared and slowed down. The image of me hitting a rock suddenly overwhelmed me..

Mindless. Absolutely mindless Kate. Dead animals indeed but you certainly don't speak for the folks of Saskatchewan.

WK's version of free speech is on his site - everyone agrees with him.
No dissent.
No discussion.
No thought.
No tolerance.
No freedom.
No speech.

Ballpoint pen;2 dollars,nice little bike;about $6,000, hoisting a self-obsessed wannabe punk on his own petard;priceless. Way to go.

So, Warren took the bait, swallowed the leader, lead weights (david suzuki approved) and about five feet of 30lb test and now is trying to puke them up.

The only unfortunate thing about this whole story as it unfolds on the web, is that depending on when a person weighs in, is that one must know the story from the start (Warrens' bathroom graffiti) or that will effect their decision on who is right or wrong/left.

Good Luck Kate, my Nubile Queen !!!

Care to elaborate Klein? Seems it was anything but mindless.

Don't take any chit from them, Kate! I busted a gut laughing once the joke was explained. What a delightful way to kick some self important pompous arse in the ass! You drove that particular point home with a sledge hammer.

I would like to think that in a country like Canada, we would have better guys than Kinsella defending the Pore Joooos from the evil chit house Nazis that infest the nation.

I was out for a few hours, and have conducted some clean up on this thread to excise a troll and anything resembling a response to same. I don't know what was deleted - I didn't read any of them. In the future, refrain from hitting the post key and you may avoid wasting both my time or yours.

KATE

that's a classic gotcha:-))))

and to all the "I am insulted holocaust survivor's son/daughter", grow up!!!!

my father spent 2 years in a C camp, and wuz damn lucky to get out alive as gypsys had the worst survival rate of any targeted group, and I do NOT find Kate's "trick" offensive!!!

It's clear in my mind that the motivation behind this post wasn't to trivial the Holocaust, but to toy with Mr Kinsella. On that score, mission accomplished.

It's also clear in my mind that Kate isn't an anti-Semite, and indeed, has consistently defended Israeli interests here on SDA.

Having said that, it's also clear in my mind that her support for Israel derives not from any particular deep-seated compassion or affinity for the Jewish people -- or else she would never have exploited this iconic and highly sensitive image from the Holocaust for personal gain, however clever her ruse -- but rather because it suits her purposes. Kinsella is no doubt a buffoon who seized upon the email a little too quickly, and his post-hoc claim to the moral high ground is obviously calculated. But given the highly specific and historical significance that a numbered tattoo on one's forearm carries for anyone of Jewish descent, Kate's willingness to risk such great offense simply to advance a personal quarrel is callous indeed.

Kate may very well be a Friend of Israel, but she is a partisan first.

Well done Kate for cutting the trolls!

And a spectacular job of hoisting Warren on his own petard!

I rather doubt that the Red Star in Toronto could find much value in his screeds after the blogosphere pummeling he has taken for the red herrings he tossed in after his obvious embarrassment.

Gravitas?

Not much that I can see, nor I suspect will any MSM in the future.

Mischief isn't everything ...... it's the only thing .

Stanley:

Josef Stalin killed 10 million of his own citizens.

My mother's family were luckier. They were sent to Siberia where my grandfather died of starvation.

There is no imagery that the survivors or their children can be offended at ... only forgiveness and a realization that there's a time to move on.

Remember that Jews were not the only victim group in history. There are many sad tales in many cultures.

You're not as unique as you'd like everybody else to believe. Kinsella can play on that never-ending wailing and never-ending agony that has been allowed to cling and destroy the psyche, instead of letting go and being truly free from something that cannot be changed.

Continue to be haunted, if you must.

Most of my fellow travellers from the former Soviet Union live happier lives in Canada because they realize they cannot live in the past and are content to build a better future here.

Kate: all bulls--t aside, are you going to write anything on this issue (of your prank)? You have dozens of readers who are spinning and interpreting your motivation. I understand how SDA works, having spent the weekend at SDA High being schooled. I understand that you post links, mostly, and then open things up for discussion.

Maybe this situation is worthy of your making an exception. I wonder if you are willing to set aside whatever pissoff you may (or may not) have with folks like me, who have and still maintain what you are about is bigotry, to write something here as regards your thinking on the Kinsella/Holocaust survivor "joke"

You are cruel, Kate. Not that I'm criticizing, mind you, just commenting is all.

Hey Warren, do you see the kind of people that support you? We do.

Steyn, commenting on Kinsella's anti-Nazi crusade,
hits it over the fence

"Just because Warren has deluded himself that his somewhat specialized hobby of toilet photography is serving a vital national-security function is no reason for the RCMP, CSIS and Lord Strathcona's Horse to be dispatched to the stall in question."

ROFL

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

As Tim Lambert explains, it was last fall when a hilarious hoax purporting to refute man-made global warming was published. The point of the hoax was, of course, to see how enthusiastically the climate change deniers seized on something that was utter rubbish and, to no one's surprise, a number of them bit. Hard.

The entertainment here was based on the fact that the paper was so clearly, obviously and thoroughly nonsense that it shouldn't have taken anyone more than five minutes to figure out they were being yanked. So, yes, it was just plain funny to watch folks line up to sing its praises, only to expose themselves as utter cranks because of it.

Now, using the recent Kate McMillan logic, those gullible cranks should have had no one but themselves to blame. Not surprisingly, it didn't work that way:

Yesterday, I posted not one but two warnings about a fraudulent website that supposedly exposed the theory of anthropogenic global warming as being completely wrong. I posted in my update who the entire thing traced back to. People are still being caught by this scam. Folks, I do not think this was a hoax. I think it was a quite intentional fraud meant to trap some dissenters. This sort of thing will probably become more common - and more sophisticated...

Again, for the search engine records: geoclimaticstudies.info is a FRAUD. Dr Hiroko Takebe of the Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. The study on the effect of benthic bacteria on global warming detailed in the "Journal of Geoclimatic Studies" is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Journal of Geoclimatic Studies is a FRAUD. Benthic Bacteria study + Global Warming is a FRAUD.

Hokey smoke, Bullwinkle ... that entire production was a disgusting, dishonest FRAUD!!!!!! Well, of course it was, you doofus -- it was a beautiful con job to expose a bunch of credulous idiots for what they are, and it worked wonderfully. And yet, notice how the exposed cranks turn the tables and make out the hoaxers to be the villains here.

I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this: When the Right are the perpetrators of the hoax, well, they're just having fun and setting a trap and anyone who falls into it, well, that's their fault and pay no attention to that disparaging of the Holocaust.

But when the Right are the victims of what is clearly a bit of comic genius whose only purpose was to expose a bunch of scientific buffoons, well, damn it, that's just mean-spirited and downright cruel and a fraud and a scam and, damn it, it's just not cricket!

what you are about is bigotry

Un freaking believable

Some people have said: this joke is in bad taste. There is an implied syllogism there, namely: if this is a joke, then it is in bad taste. But enough water has now passed under the bridge that I think I can safely conclude that this was not a joke, thus since the antecedent is falsified, the consequent is irrelevant.

No, what we have experienced here can be best described, I think, as brilliant satire noir. It is very revealing that the sorts of characters who typically celebrate such noir-ish things didn't in this case. It is also interesting how the evolution of the evidence was ignored by many of the same people.

In my opinion, what Kate has accomplished here is akin to the pulling back of the curtain on the Wizards of Oz. As to why it takes a philistine engineer like me to explain satire noir to the supposedly arty types? Exactly. Because they are frauds.

appropos of nothing...other than the last one is probably the most relevant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_D7WtOHZd0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4v6qRdnKas&feature=related

Agreed Vitruvius. It is long past time some one pinned his ears to the clothesline and beat the stuffing out of him. I am amazed at the number of 'conservatives' who wish Kate's exposure of WK had not happened because he might get mad and do something nasty.

I hope that Kate's handi-work gets duplicated over and over again. If it happens often enough to the purveyors of political correctness Canadians might shake off the shackles that have hindered us for so long and once again Canada will take its rightful place on the world stage.

My life's motto.
"Mischief is important."

Kate

I would have to say, in this this venture, mission accomplished. Congrats.

After a day of heated palaver I say in the end she's still a hot chick on a cool bike.

The email to Kinsella made no mention of Nazis, Jews or death camps. This was simply a case of Kinsella jumping to conclusions and making a fool out of himself. Serves the pretentious ass right. He probably fancies himself as another Simon Weisenthal and he seems to believe that there are Nazis hiding in washrooms throughout the country.

But that's just my opinion. Some people don't see the black humour in jokes like this...or in posting as Lavrenty Beria.

WK "...but most respondents, conservatives included, are appalled by what she did."

Is this what it takes? I am liberal and I think WK is a jackass!!!! .... !!!!!!!

Adopting the online identity of a prolific torturer, murderer and sexual predator is not my idea of a good joke.
But hey, the french love Jerry Lewis.

That's a rather hurtful way to write about Jerry Lewis.

I'm not up on tattoos ... when I saw WK's post, well, I thought prison tattoos. So I did a google search on prison tattoo (hope that doesn't outrage).

As it turns out, a butterfly tattoo on the ankle is not the most popular in the pen. Just for fun check out 88 (you were paying for it ... until Day put a stop it).

Symbolism ... it's what you want it to be.

I've been arguing against Kinsella on this topic for a long time, but on this one I'm with him. This wasn't funny, this wasn't a prank, this was just a quick and easy way for you to make a fool of yourself in front of the world(or at least, Canadian political blog readers, which is a little like the world). Next time you get a "funny" idea, try not to make the entire body of free speech supporters look like a pack of morons.

Alsadius,

You don't speak for the "entire body of free speech supporters". If you feel like a moron ...

Congratulations Kate on exposing the fraudulent phony and letting him do it to himself........Priceless

Just a thought.....You don't suppose the Nazi photo in the potty could have been faked......No, WK and his ilk wouldn't stoop that low.....or would they......Just askin'

You rock Kate and the bike is nice too......

Hey

Where's all the posts from KEVron?

He mildly tweaks KKKaty and the rest of you - and his posts are banished.

Way to defend freedom of speech!

Awww, was KKKate's feelin's hurt?

Couldn't she withstand the tweaking from KEVron?

Awwww, poor bay-beeee!

Ah, I suppose it's all to be expected. You're all just a bunch of cowardly racists who haven't even got the guts to admit it freely like the lowliest white supremacist.

Chief among you is your snaggle-toothed big-butt leader KKKate who's real brave gunning down an animal or posing on her scooter, but has to delete the posts of KEVron 'cause they hurt her feeewings!

Poor bay-beeeeeee!

So does Jason Cherniak have any problem of being a member of a party that is proud to have been led by a Nazi supporter who had a vicious, bigoted tyrant as a pall-bearer? No?

Right, because they are all loving enablers of continuous crimes against humanity for 70 years. The LPC is a war crime - they deserve the Spandau ballet.

Reading up on the background to this sordid affair, I stumbled across Jonathan Kay's Feb 7 National post comment ("JK on WK and the fetishization of racial hatred"), in which he describes Canada's "far right network" as:

"any number of obscure groups that seek to kick out the immigrants or blame our problems on the Jews. But dig a little deeper, and you inevitably find the “group” consists of one or two pitiful old cretins operating out of a Yahoo! Mail account and someone’s basement."

And then it occurs to me that there are a great many commenters on SDA who also seek to kick out immigrants and/or blame our problems on the Muslims/First Nations/blacks/etc.

Nothing more than curious coincidence, I'm sure.

This is fabulous. Seems that a few people think any reference to something disturbing, is "tasteless." Honestly, I don't even know what that means. Does it mean that I am never supposed to speak of any subject that can lead to uncomfortable feelings in others?

Sending the image was brilliant. The numbers do not look at all like a camp tattoo. From the email Kate sent, I would have been very suspicious and done some research. Having the number be related to Kate's motorcycle and the faked photo is priceless.

Excellent job Kate. Mischief rules.

Yeah, volik, that's probably why all 50 or so of KEvron's postings were deleted -- he was hurting Kate's feelings.

Either that, or you know, he was a post troll having one-line conversations with himself for the express purpose of shutting down meaningful debate.

But yeah, you could be right. And Kinsella could be a functioning adult, too, but I wouldn't bet the milk money on either.

wehew...smells clean in here again...someone swept up the troll feces.

Last word on the matter:

We have had a lengthy thread here...I see SDA commentors put out a plethora of reasoned argument to witch I see the free speech haters with leftard convictions (yes Daly you're one too) only responded with insults, threats, libelois accusation and innuendo and bogus moral superiority or totally irrational illtempered blather. I did see 3 well constructed civil naysayer posts but these were all based in their Christian ethics.

To sum: to this point, there has not been an articulate, civil, reasoned refutation of Kate's "right to prank a prankster" by the mouth breathers who inhabit the left end of the gene pool AND the same lot who wade in the shallow end of the intellectual pool, have not made a rational defense of Kinsella's stupidity and the witch hunt for Canada's vast nazi conspiracy that venal naivity drives...we're still waiting.

....and uh, Kate; keep the moonbat netting up. I don't mind well reasoned argument but there were just too many nihilist toddlers in here pooping all over the furnature and screaming over the adults to get attention.

For probably the first time(and maybe last?), I agree with lberia.

Kate's email to Kinsella was a perfect confrontation of his arrogant self-defined certainty that what HE sees and thinks is The Truth.

So, if he sees a scrawled swastika in a boy's washroom, he doesn't think; he doesn't consider context, he just mechanically jumps to only ONE interpretation - There are Nazis here!
Not, it's kids fooling around. Nope; Kinsella doesn't think. The image comes into his view and like a machine, he has only one response: Nazis are here.

The acorn falls - and The Sky Is Falling!

So, Kate showed him up as a mechanical, non-thinker. She sends him a tatoo on an arm. Could be for a gang, could be for a prison, could be for anything. But Kinsella ignores context, ignores multipe interpretations. He's a mechanical switch.

The emails on his blog were almost 100% not from readers; he doesn't have that many and he doesn't allow comments. No, with Kinsella's ties to Warman and the CJC, they were requests from him to write. They weren't even written in the ad hoc style of blogging; they were email letters.

Kinsella is an egoistical person, who doesn't think but reacts according to embedded opinions. His reactions are immediate, without thought, and violent. Notice his constant threats to sue, his constant name-calling.... Let him yell.

I see Warren's trying to keep milking his accusation of mocking the Holocaust against Kate.

I doubt that'll pay off for him. He apparently doesn't get it, so no surprise that he's going on and on this AM, requesting more "Hate Kate" commentary from moonbats to post on his now-all-but-defunct blog. This guy reminds me of someone else, another leftwing nutcase, who used to go around the blogosphere calling you-know-who the "r" word and then was heard from no more.

Sheesh... disordered minds of the Far Left really DO think alike!

So Warren, go ahead and strut and fret your hour upon the stage, for soon you'll be heard from no longer, as Shakespeare predicted about walking shadows and poor players like yourself.

Oh Ya: Daly and all the other salivating hyenas who were raking Kate over as a loathsome defiler of holocaust victims...turns out she didn't send it...

....cue sound of chirping crikets waiting for apologies.....

WL - if she didn't send it then you can retract all of your praise, adoration, declarations of brilliance, and otherwise shameful worhsip towards Kate. Any minute now...

And Kate - how convenient to pop in and declare "I deleted some stuff. I don't know what I deleted, but I know I did it. And I will do it again, so be nice!"

Still not willing to own up to this? Trying to get by on a Cheneyesque technicality (RICHARD sent it, not me!), or still happy to just let the peasants run defense?

If you are reading anything throughout the blogoshphere, I'll bet you are very much wishing you hand't posted this crap. I'd be willing to be ALOT on that.

As long as your minions are happy though, you can try to ignore the disguested stares and head-shaking throughout the internet.

I would suggest a long and sincere apology, but thats just me.

Throbbin,

Could you exactly tell us why you think Kate deserves to apologize? Apologize for what?

What better evidence of the truth spoken in this:

"A habit of basing convictions upon evidence, and of giving to them only that degree or certainty which the evidence warrants, would, if it became general, cure most of the ills from which the world suffers." Bertrand Russell - Philosopher Logician Mathematician!

The astounding thing is that so many so often... especially these little thumbsuckers that rushed to attack SDA like a hive of Africanized Bees(That includes queen bee Warren) and still this tool 'throbbin' have never ever read the works of the SOCIALIST logician.

Wow so it was two people who all creepily thought up a joke involving e-mails fake names and the holocaust?

And another thing take a look at some of the lengthy tortured defenses of this (A weird internet trick of the sort that if it happened to you it would cause you to wonder about just what kind of nuts operate on the internet.)and the elaborate fantasies these fans are concocting to defend such a lapse in judgment....

If i got an e-mail from someone claiming to be holocaust survivour from a weirdo internet person i would be genuinely disturbed. As i would expect any of you would be.

Davidt,

I'll bite...

If i got an e-mail from someone claiming to be holocaust survivour...

Could you tell me exactly who "claimed to be a holocaust survivor.." in this whole episode?

Davidt,

I'll bite...

"If i got an e-mail from someone claiming to be holocaust survivour..."

Could you tell me exactly who "claimed to be a holocaust survivor.." in this whole episode?

I can't believe how many of Kate's detractors out there don't even understand what they are actually angry about.

What they are angry about, never actually happened...

Lemmings off a cliff...

The Greek - amid all of your cries of "Brilliant", "This will go down in blog history", and "You sure showed him!", have you not wondered to yourself "Why are we congratulating her? If she didn't do anything, does she deserve all of this praise?"

Dumbass. Trying to play it both ways don't work.

This section of the post is to Kate and Kate only - where are you? No comment? Still out of the house? Have you not the intestinal fortitude to address all of your critics, here and elsewhere?

I'm surprised that kate didn't delete your posts as well Volik,you're about as stupid as he is.

Throbbin,

Could you show me where I claimed "Brilliant", "This will go down in blog history", and "You sure showed him!" ?

You call me a Dumbass for asking you a question?

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

The post seems to have created a new strain of BDS, which, from this point shall be referred to as KKKDS.

Some of the 'credentials' of the Kinsella supporters crack me up.

"I live up the road from a holocaust survivor."
"My granddad fought the Nazis."

I'm tempted to email Warren and say, "My uncles were Nazis and they find your use of their tattoos to bolster your credibility offensive."

This whole thing is amusing.

It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Kinsella types really do believe that there is a right to not be offended.

They say this prank is tasteless and offensive.

Some want apologies, others want it deleted altogether.

The crux of the issue is this. Speech that Liberals like is allowed.

Example: Kinsella using a fake image to prop up his Nazi hunter resume.

Speech that the Liberals dislike should be suppressed.

Example: Kate using a fake image to prop up her 'Kinsella is a fascist' resume.

Everyone got caught up in the 'is this offensive?' debate.

It doesn't matter.

What matters is it exposes the real agenda of the Human Rights cheerleaders. It's not about protecting the little guy. It's about making sure their political opponents don't have the same right to discourse that they do.

Kinsella can use Holocaust images for personal ego stroking. He's a champion of human rights.

Kate uses the same image and she's a bigot.

Ah Daly...get back to sucking beer and hitting golf balls,nobody's listening to you're Ralph Goodale impression here.

"John Daly"....?

OMG "JOHN"!!!

As in,... "Canadian Nazi Headquarters" Daily, no doubt!
"The JOHN"!!!
Isn't that where Warren Kinsella say's the Canadian Nazi Organization Of Canada has perfected their recruiting drive and diabolical underground communications system ?

Nice Try !
We've got the pictures to prove it too.
(Well OK fair enough they're in Warren's cell phone)
Anyways,
Beware of Johnny posters (or anything scatologically inclined) they're most likely Nazis.
We're onto all the Nazi Scum, now that Warren has helped us see.

Remember a few weeks back when Warnout Kantstandya was saying something along the lines of that as a "devout Catholic" he was not offended by the punk band name of "Tit &uck Me Jesus"?

A "devout Catholic" eh?

Just like the self-pofessed "devout Catholic" (and his arch enemy) Paul Martin? Remember the very same Paul Martin, who despite his "devout" faith called his CHRISTMAS wreath a "holiday wreath". When pressured by reporters he called it an "expensive wreath". Uhhhh, sure.

SO, that being said, and seeing Warnout is so comfortable in his Catholocism, he'd have no problem inviting the old birds from his parish CWL over for tea to thumb through his punk album collection and tell the gals about his favourite band and how it's name actually "celebrates" Christianity.

What a dipshit. This is prime-cut, grade A Liberal psycosis at it's finest.

This would be questionable humor if it were sent to a Jew, but context is everything. The joke exposes Kinsella's hypocracy. I consider Kate's joke an appropriate payback for the "Barney doll" incident in which Kinsella attempts to make Stockwell Day look foolish by making fun of his fundamentalist Christian beliefs. Warren is very selective in his application of the principle of free speech.

Volik,

Your opinion . . . 3:15am

**Ah, I suppose it's all to be expected. You're all just a bunch of cowardly racists who haven't even got the guts to admit it freely like the lowliest white supremacist.**

is allowed.

Kevron, on the other hand, used 47 posts to say nothing but childish drivel.

I was just about to as Kate to remove them.

Guess others found they messed up the thread too. What a relief. = TG

here is what I sent wk

Comment:

On Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 02:47 PM, wes werkman wrote:

why is it OK for you to use that image in a way that serves your purposes, but its not Ok for kate to use it in a way that serves her purposes?

Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

here is how he reads it:

It's a couple hours later, and I have heard from Wes Werkman, of Leduc, Alberta, who says he thinks it is fine to do what Kate McMillan did, if "it serves her purposes."

Oh no, ET

KEVvie hit a nerve. And he wouldn't let up.

KKKate played her little prank, trivializing the holocaust in order to 'make a point' about free speech.

Yet because KEVron didn't let up in his criticism he is banished.

Quite a defense of free speech!

So...since we see that KKKate doesn't actually believe in free speech, what was the sum purpose and result of her little prank?

To trivialize the holocaust.

Of course.

Kate's hot.

volik et al,

i don't think you have any idea of what nerve you or your like-minded friends have hit.

much of the agenda in canada has been driven by socialists (the polite phrase for ideologues) with and in, the name of good intentions for waaaay toooo long. and the results have ranged from mediocre to categorically disastrous. how can you be surprised or outraged that it has come to this? did you think clear-headed canadians would just roll over and play dead?

you and i are equal in the sense that we both hold opinions; but, not the fuzzy oh we're both right except-mine-is-better-than-yours-type-opinions my friend. this is something much more serious. and that's why i'm posting.

this a place of your own making where you are hopelessly entangled in your own machinations. this is a place where your political opponents regard your thinking (or non-thinking as it were) as something that constitutes a danger to free society. it has come to this - you do not respect others' opinions or ideas on the basis that they are not the opinions you hold. eventually i will be able to forgive you for that.

on the other hand, i did not ask for this challenge and in no way enjoy having to go out of my way to make the assertion that i am equal and that my ideas are every bit as valid as the current flavour - only to have it repudiated - not with clear-minded thinking but emotional anecdote. and let's even not mention the possibility of being dragged in front of a tribunal. hey! that's got to be lot's of fun, eh?

i would much rather get on in life with the things that i enjoy and would rather not bother with these bigger questions that i have taken for granted (fool that i am). thanks to you and many people like you - these bigger questions will now have my undivided attention. i will be in ottawa on april 12. i will stand up for my rights - the rights you feel so comfortable in discounting. please stay home and watch tv - i get the impression that you're probably good at that. it would be better for us all.

Kate, leave it up to you to get the pot stirred!

And Boy , did she stir this pot. Hell, I'm from N. Louisiana and I got it.

But this cut pretty deep from Kinsella about the type of Folks who post at SDA mainly a group of regular losers and hicks who come back again and again.

Wow, I only post once a week so surely he can't be talking about me, besides; unlike my cousins I do have a regular job.

w. longish handle mckenzie

You get a prize for loading a post with the maximum number of redundant insults on this thread. Why not just use "leftard" and let that brilliance stand? Just a thought. You get a little overwraught, I see. Simmer down. I said that Kate has some major prejudice going on and I said that she is bigoted as hell, if not a full on bigot. What's the big deal?

Johnnie boy...why do you come here anyway,a lefty visiting a known con site.What,are you going to enlighten us or something.Cbc is online,why not go there where readers would share your views,instead of here where we just laugh at sheeple like you.

What's wrong with talking to people with different opinions, h.ryan? Are you that insecure?

But you are not talking,you are preaching and judging.If I want to hear the left's opinion I'll just watch the news.I come here to witness like minded people,what's your reason,and forget the different views b.s.

John Daly - you are the stupidest, most two-bit, link-whore I have ever seen. You are a farce, a childish, stupid farce. You have no dignity at all, you pathetic laughingstock. It must be really lonesome having a blogg that no one goes to; but that is not surprising given how stupid and unprincipled are, you pathetic two-bit link-whore. Thanks for the laughs, Johnnie-boy.

Hey, Arthurdecco comments on the guy's blog. Or as I prefer to call him, Arthurdick-o. That's as crass a content warning as one could ever get.