Man loitering in boys' washroom with camera phone is startled by swastikas;
" I found it in the boys' washroom, in smallish letters, but at about a kid's eye level."
"By Almost Any Means Possible" - a trip back in time to visit Richard Warman and friends;
Bob MacDonald of the Toronto Sun wrote the following on February 5, 1995: "Now we've come to the sorry point in Metro Toronto where a so-called anti-racist gang goes on the prowl armed with knives, iron pipes and machetes - looking for 'neo-Nazis' to attack". Sadly, the three people who were stabbed and slashed in a subway attack were not even 'neo-Nazis', they were "just some guys on their way home from a party".
Did you say a man with a camera loitering around a boys washroom. What a sicko pervert.
They should arrest guys like that. I find some pervert like that where my grandson goes skating he'll wish he took up knitting
Posted by: Jeff Cosford at February 7, 2008 11:24 AMWhere's Volik to support the noble fight against fictitious threats of violence by using actual violence!
Funny, I said earlier in other posts that it is ironic that those who are most adamant about fighting "Nazis" are so quick to adopt most of the Nazis' methods (in this case, Hitler's brownshirts - and remember what happened to them!) They don't seem smart enough to even understand that they are what they purport to hate. Stop fascism with fascism isn't that appealing to me. Too bad some people don't have the mental capacity to see the obvious lack of logical consistency.
Posted by: Warwick at February 7, 2008 11:32 AMWell we have a new evaluation level for anything now. Does it contribute to the marketplace of ideas.
Anything that doesnt should be banned....who is judging contribution to the marketplace befoe it gets to the marketplace again?
Posted by: Stephen at February 7, 2008 11:33 AMOh, as for Kinsella,
I would not be surprised if it turned out he himself was the one with the pen. It seems a bit of a stretch that at the same time he's grandstanding on his issue, the same time he's trying to illustrate that we're one Warman away from 1933 that some kid comes along to "prove" his point.
Come off it Kinsella! I don't buy it.
That isn't to say that he DID do it [to protect myself from lawsuit boy] but that I don't believe he didn't.
Posted by: Warwick at February 7, 2008 11:36 AMI think one conclusion about these people is that they are very similar, psychologically, to the people who join criminal gangs.
The basic psyche is, if there is such a description, 'thuggery'. Being a thug, which means to need to and enjoy harassing, beating up, dominating - other people.
This is an emotional 'high' and it works best within a like-minded group.
Given this basic psychological nature, the person then has to find the group where he/she can activate it.
There's the socialist - who join thug-groups hidden under the Front of 'humanitarian agendas', such as anti-poverty, anti-war, anti-nazi, anti-whatever. They aren't really socialist of course; and they aren't really involved in doing anything about poverty, war etc. That's just a cover for the real agenda, which is beating up people, rejecting authority and feeling good about both actions.
There's the capitalist - who join thug-groups operating within Get-Rich-Quickly-Without-Working schemes such as robbing banks, corner stores, selling drugs, stealing cars etc. They arn't really capitalist; that's just a cover for stealing other people's money, beating up people, rejecting authority.
Both types are thugs; both types are criminals. The left, interestingly enough, supports both types.
Posted by: ET at February 7, 2008 11:41 AMI dont think warren did it. If he had he would have put Mcguinty Sucks underneath it.
Posted by: Stephen at February 7, 2008 11:41 AMwell....warren warman and warman the K(the Karsh of the public convenience) and andreachick(i overrule you comrade shirlaine)...and others i'm too pissed to remember their names are in the deep doo doo by now...very deep...too deep to ever truly ever wash themselves clean it seems...totally and utterly discredited....and a black eye for the Leftistas into the bargoon.
so!...now for the augean thingie...the what we call the denoument..what we need now are a couple or three dozen Ryerson grads(well,i mean cbc journos i guess) with bottom and bottle and semi-literate please to chase down the "other story"....the 'other story' being a rebuttal from any or all of the 'villains' in this sad tale.........surely they feel aggrieved...put upon....misunderstood ?
so where are the reporters chasing down Warman and Steacy and Andreachick and all the other bit players in this farce...?
Do $200.00 Waterman's and Mount Blanche 's write on vertical epoxy sprayed block?
Posted by: richfisher at February 7, 2008 11:45 AMrich,
Good question, no self respecting punk would leave home without one.
WK also mentions that he was at a show with punks andd skinheads, I wonder if he checked if any of the skinheads were of the neo nazi variety? Nah couldnt be, that would mean he would have to abandon the music, since you clearly can never have anything in common with people who hold abhorrnet ideas, it makes you the same as them...doncha know....
Posted by: Stephen at February 7, 2008 11:51 AMET, I think you can extend your analysis to include Islamofascists - criminal elements in repressive societies who don't have the cover of due process, criminal legal aid and hug a thug advocacy. So, they gravitate to organizations where they can ply their violent trade - a Muslim brotherhood type group. I think AQ and their ilk are full of these sociopaths, who find criminal expression from hatemongers via the rhetoric of OBL et al.
Posted by: Shamrock at February 7, 2008 11:52 AMMark Steyn as usual makes some excellent points in a column a few years back about Prince Harry's Nazi party costume, e.g. "But if Adolf Hitler were to return from wherever he is right now, what would he be most steamed about? That in some countries there are laws banning Nazi symbols and making Holocaust denial a crime? No, that wouldn't bother him: that would testify to the force and endurance of his ideas - that 60 years on they're still so potent the state has to suppress them."
More Steyn: "How did we end up in a world where David Irving sits in a cell for querying the numbers of the last Holocaust while men march through London streets promising a new Holocaust and are given a bodyguard of police officers to help them do so?"
I believe the answer to his rhetorical question is "The Human Rights Industry."
If Chinchilla is the great anti-Semitic fighter, why not start in the obvious place - the Liberal Party of Canada.
At the last Liberal Leadership convention Bob Rae and his wife were the targets of a smear campaign by Muslim attendees.
Additionally, I distinctly remember seeing old Mo Elmasry's fugly face in the crowd. Why go into a washroom with a camera when you can fight anti-Semitism in your own back yard (unless of course you dig hanging around the boys' washrooms in Agincourt hockey arenas. With your camera. Fighting anti-Semitism).
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at February 7, 2008 11:57 AMOh yeah, Mark Steyn refers to Chinchilla as Karsh! Too funny.
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at February 7, 2008 12:04 PMHanging around rest rooms at the rink? Sheesh. Warren K really is the Canadian Tonya Harding.
Posted by: concrete at February 7, 2008 12:06 PMi just perused the public convenience "rune' ol' War is exercised about.....you see, i took a stroll out to the rink to see if things were really as bad as ol' said they were...and bigod they are....if the photographer had looked down a bit and to the left(of course)..he would have seen another graffito...an odd enough to the innocent etching that asked..."wanna hear a cloacal deconstruction of Steiner's 'the portage of A.H. to San Cristobal" then call Lucy" at a phone number i don't feel it proper to reveal at this time.
curiouser and curiouser.....if anyone cares i'm up to THREE lye baths a day just to feel clean to read the mop and pail....how pathetic is that...when you consider i'm a taxpayer.
Posted by: john begley at February 7, 2008 12:08 PMWhat is a racist?
Michael Richards makes his point...
Michael Richards, better known as Kramer from TV’s Seinfeld, does make a good point.
This was his defence speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points.
Proud To Be White
Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy', 'Cracker', 'Honkey', 'Whitey', 'Caveman'... and that's OK.
But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... You call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashanah.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.
If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to ‘advance’ OUR lives we'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships you know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US. Yet, if there were 'White Colleges’ THEY would be called racist colleges.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.
I am proud. But you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Posted by: Fiumara at February 7, 2008 12:10 PMThat Michael Richards "speech" is a hoax.
Snopes.com is your friend.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proudwhite.asp
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at February 7, 2008 12:15 PMmississauga mat ?
I referred to the warman the K as Karsh...NOT the so called great MR Steyn...him and i have had our differences already..he stole some ideas(well, one idea) of mine and didn't have the guts to admit it...so after he's already stolen the phrase 'romanian moment '(don't it just SING?) off me i don't think i could bear him getting credit for ol' war being called the Karsh of the wiesenthalers.
be governed accordingly.
Posted by: john begley at February 7, 2008 12:15 PMHave you read Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" yet?
Once you do, it becomes apparent that this is part and parcel of Fascist mentality.
Not the swastika part, mind you, the "reaction" by the Fascists.
Posted by: Doug at February 7, 2008 12:18 PMThe Arch-Bishop of Cantebury for Sharia Law
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7233335.stm
Posted by: Jeff at February 7, 2008 12:24 PM'NOT the so called great MR Steyn"
Steyn's great. How could he steal from you, you're nearly incoherent. Better yet, why?
Posted by: dean spencer - fox at February 7, 2008 12:32 PMOK - so Michael Richards did not say those words. Regardless who said them - the point has some validity.
Posted by: adifferent bob at February 7, 2008 12:32 PMshamrock - yes, I agree; a lot of the Islamic fascists are the same type of thugs. They're not in it for the ideology; just for the thuggery.
Posted by: ET at February 7, 2008 12:38 PMI get up in the morning more fearful of how much money the Democrats will lift from my wallet than neo-Nazis's making any progress in the US or Canada. For God's sake, we have a black man who may be a candidate for President! Canadian attitudes aren't any different. You'll always have angry anti-social numbskulls or psychotics in a free society that spew their venom. But, what's the body count? I couldn't find one racial murder in Canada committed by a neo-Nazi. The Aryan Guard in Alberta had all of 20 members in 2007. The largest number of viewings at the Stormfront.org site today was 230 looking at their News.
Extrapolating from these numbers, finding needle in a haystack would be easier than finding an in the flesh Canadian neo-Nazi. Commonsense would dictate that their sympathizers are in miniscule numbers too. The burden is really on the hyperbolizing Kinsellas of Canada to prove otherwise.
Posted by: penny at February 7, 2008 12:52 PMTo the semi coherent Johnny-come-lately Begley. Do you even know who Mark Steyn is?
TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!!
Posted by: jlc at February 7, 2008 12:55 PMAll I can say, after teaching boys for well over three decades: the printing most definitely does not look like that of the young male of our species. This printing, with no lines, is too straight, too even, and even has upper case letters! (And, anyway, I don't think ball point pen works on metal.)
It wouldn't surprise me if WK did it (photo-shopped?) himself. Or, if it actually was a kid, does WK have a son? (IMO, any kid writing this, in this way, would need to be coached.)
jlc and dean spencer...i am neither incoherent nor am i unaware of steyn in the blogoshere or the popular press.
and your point ?
oh dear...am i communicating with Steynistas ?..i had no notion he had a fan club..is this like a Chavez/Valenzuela thing..if so i give up and am trying to lick my nuts even tho my back is out.
Posted by: john begley at February 7, 2008 1:11 PMI think this is a pathetic statement about liberals in particular and Canada in general.
One of my grandfathers was shot up on the beaches on D-Day and another served as a camp cook in Europe during WW2 after being gassed in the trenches of WW1. Those guys stood up to the fury and might of the fascist machine at its absolute worst.
The Canadian heroes today are in Afghanistan, Warren, going eyeball to eyeball with islamofascism. You are in the chitter chasing children.
Somebody needs a few strokes with the Easton Aluminum Clue Bat. Not mentioning any names, though...
poor Warren , taking on Mark Steyn, talk about taking a butter knife to a gun fight.
I almost feel sorry for Warren , NOT.
Posted by: cal2 at February 7, 2008 1:22 PMWhite Liberal Cultural Marxists have a special hatred for their kinsman. They did'nt fit into their own group so they seek to destroy it. They consider minorities inferior themselves,making them feel like they can identify with them.
Posted by: Shawn at February 7, 2008 1:24 PMI’ve heard of:
Movie Critics
Restaurant Critics
Poetry Critics
Music Critics
Literary Critics
But this is the first Bathroom Stall Literary Critic that I’ve ever heard of.
Hey Warren have you reviewed this classic yet:” Here I sit broken hearted paid and dime and only…”?
If he didn’t have his friends here at SDA he’d hardly have nobody to play with at all.
And don't let anyone tell ya that PMSH isn't growing the workforce.
Warren Kinsella's New Book
Eyes Wide Stance.
translated from
Augen weiten Haltung
Gotterdamer-dung.
Posted by: Rat Patrol at February 7, 2008 1:52 PMPerhaps this is how Morton Downey Jr went down the toilet.
Posted by: Cable Guy at February 7, 2008 1:54 PMOne again, ONCE AGAIN Mr. Kinsella you have had your ass handed to you by a girl. Instead of blustering about non-existant Nazis and threatening your betters with lawsuits, perhaps you should take some type of intellectual self defense course. I'm a good guy generally - so here's your first lesson for free. LESSON ONE: Shaddup boy, you're in over your head! Now don't get mad, 'cause I know and she knows and most importantly, you know........she can probably beat you up too.
Posted by: Security at February 7, 2008 2:10 PMI really hope you're not suggesting that the swastika is a harmless little prank!
Posted by: Jason Cherniak at February 7, 2008 2:10 PMGiven this post by Warren Kinsueya, how far is he from his own personal PeeWee Herman moment? Taking pictures of kid's bathroom graffiti?
Man, and I thought he was a loser when Kate caught him sock-puppeting the other day. I had no idea.
How the mediocre have fallen.
Posted by: The Phantom at February 7, 2008 2:14 PMHow utterly pityful, to find one's self taking a camera into a loo and taking pictures of supposed Nazi propaganda.
Jebus how low will the leftard sink to spread their marxist propaganda.
Jason who know's if it's a heartless prank, if he drew it himself perhaps you should ask him what his intent was?
Posted by: Rose at February 7, 2008 2:14 PMAnother idiot heard from, eh?
Posted by: The Phantom at February 7, 2008 2:15 PMThese images are so powerful, so toxic, so corrupting, that they turn to hateful racist zealots those who set eyes upon them. What to do then? Apparently they are so dangerous that they must be published in a public blog!!!!
And now that they have been beheld by our amateur photographer friend, who is to protect us from him now that these scrawlings have so poisoned his mind?
Wait, you mean they have not poisoned his mind? He is somehow immune? Is that because he is better than the rest of us? Because he is a superior human being?
Perhaps this is best solved by spending a few billion on a felt pen registry?
oh oh, clever trap being set.....harmless prank?
So the genius lawyer asks the leading question.
So let me respond by asking, do you think it is a harmless prank or do you think it is a serious threat and an indicator of a coven of Nazi's?
or is there some third alternative that lay between these extremes?
Cherniak,
If this isn't Kinsella's own hoax, tell me how many people were harmed by it? Name one single solitary person physically harmed by any nazis in the last 10 years. Even one. Not hypothetical, not "he hurt my feelings" but actual harm.
Stupid people do stupid things. Defacing public properties with Nazi symbols is ugly and distasteful but not harmful. Harmful is the state's thought police jailing people for their thought crimes. Whoever wrote this can be arrested for vandalism. That's the only crime here - aside from the liberal party's disrespect of it's own charter of rights.
I fear the losers on stormfront far less than I fear jackboots in the liberal party silencing anyone it disagrees with. The stormfront group are marginalized losers with nothing. Liberals occasionally have the power to crush people's actual liberties instead of the fantasies you lot use as your excuse to do so.
Posted by: Warwick at February 7, 2008 2:39 PMThe grafitti is far more than a harmless prank, Jason, especially if it's not authentic, which quite a few of us here believe it might not be. (Please read my earlier post.)
Perhaps you can provide some evidence that these words are both authentic, e.g., written by a racist, and actually dangerous to Canadians.
As a Christian, I know that law-abiding co-religionists have ACTUALLY been harmed by the state via Canada’s HRCs and have been required to defend themselves, outside of due process, and pay both their defence and the HRC levied fines. Would you care to comment on this kind of persecution and actual harm? (Have any Jewish people been hauled before a HRC on account of their religious beliefs and expression of it and paid the multiple damages?)
How about openly anti-Christian slurs in both the MSM and other media?
Even the lobby group, EGALE—Equality for Gays and Lesbians Everywhere—and Xtra, the gay paper, are against the HRC prosecution of Pastor Boissoin in Alberta as they realize that what’s sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander and that they could, some day, be on the receiving end of easily laid “charges”, which do not have to be proven.
What do you think of that?
In my experience with lawyers, they do not ask questions to which they don't already know the answers. Perhaps Mr. Kinsella knows that making up a petty minor crime (vandalism) and non existent though crimes(like children drawing swastikas) will just distract us conservatives from taking Dion to town for his idiocy on Afghanistan?
Either way, it seems as if Warren has lost his mind, or he is deliberately acting this way to cover something else. You know those puffins are good at burying their poop.
Posted by: Jon at February 7, 2008 2:42 PMSwastikas are so passe.
Anyone who prowls public washrooms with a camera
just isn't right in the head.
"I really hope you're not suggesting that the swastika is a harmless little prank!"
Posted by: Jason Cherniak
I really hope you're not suggesting that we hunt down and drag 12 year old bathroom stall vandals before Human Rights Commissions.
Because, you know, that's the essence of Kinsella's argument here - that Canadians require the intervention of the state and the force of law to ensure that no helpless soul is ever exposed to twin stick drawings. That the existence of these bodies can prevent this.
But you didn't pick up on that, did you?
Did you??
Really, Jason, you should shut the f*** up before whatever college of law responsible for issuing your diploma loses its accreditation.
Posted by: Kate at February 7, 2008 2:49 PMWarren was it your phone number scrawled upon the last stall door advertising a "good time" ?
Posted by: Simeon at February 7, 2008 2:57 PMIt's really becoming apparent that Kinsella just isn't very smart.
What was the reason for his stature in the liberal party, it wasn't brains, maybe it was simply his willingness to get deeper into the gutter and the sewer than the rest of them.
I really hope you're not suggesting that the swastika is a harmless little prank!
Does that mean Borat Dijon's first order of business will be to rename Swastika, Ontario?
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at February 7, 2008 3:14 PMAs the old saying goes.... You can fool some of the people all of the time....
Kinsella, Warman, Cherniak ... all living examples of that old saw.
Well I suppose the concept of IRONY might be learned as it surely MUST come up somewhere in the course of acquiring law diplomas ..... but having an understanding of it in real life? Not so much.
May the mocking continue.....
Posted by: OMMAG at February 7, 2008 3:16 PMDo we or Kate knows that it was really Jason making that comment. Doesn't seem like him and I'm not Jason.
Posted by: Jason Cherniak at February 7, 2008 3:35 PMWho IS Jason Cherniak, and who cares?
Posted by: terrence at February 7, 2008 3:39 PMMiss. Matt:
No they already renamed BERLIN, Ontario to Kitchener, Ont.
Of course this is where Karen "we won't observe confidence vote losses" Redman comes from!!!
So if you thought your vote didn't mean anything before just keep voting LIEberal.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Well, if my theory is correct, and Kinsella and Frank Burns are actually clones, than this would mean Jason Cherniak is Hot Lips.
Posted by: James Goneaux at February 7, 2008 3:47 PMJason coming up from behind with a roll of toilet paper to defend Kinswilsuya's legshitamint nazi hunt.
Do the liberals have any idea how uttlerly stupid they look scouting out shithouses for nazi paraphernalia?
It's amazing what you'll find peeking out from behind a swastika these days
http://tinyurl.com/2zmmya
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 7, 2008 4:14 PMthis is funny----- Borat Dions Wife ( mdm. snarl pints Krieber) - favourite blogger is Jason Cherniak - showing the Dion social circle is the size of a dish of KFC poutine.
http://dionlineyouth.blogspot.com/2007/07/this-weekend-i-was-fortunate-enough-to.html
Posted by: cal2 at February 7, 2008 4:36 PMSwastikas in the boys' washroom?
Next thing you know we'll see boys wearing tan coloured shirts in Canada like the Hitler Youth did in Germany in 1945 and before.
Don't Boy Scouts in Canada wear tan coloured shrits?
Posted by: Mé at February 7, 2008 5:11 PMThis is disturbing at so many levels.
1. If I ever saw any person with a camera anywhere near any washroom/change room, where my kids play sports, his face would wind up looking like a can of smashed arseholes!
2. There is no doubt that this is another famous librano publicity stunt.
3. The only "nazis" that I have ever encountered are pimply faced punks who represent zero threat to anyone but themselves.
Nazis in Canada..........puleeeeeease!
Posted by: kingstonlad at February 7, 2008 5:11 PMI find Kinsella's photography of real or imaginary s##thouse poetry about as intellectually stimulating as "An Inconvenient Truth." That being said it remains my opinion that proponents of big government who revel in the establishment of bureaucracies that supposedly protect our "rights" are usually more interested in proscribing them.
Posted by: Free Thinker at February 7, 2008 5:27 PMhttp://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/02/07/jonathan-kay-on-warren-kinsella-and-the-fetishization-of-racial-hatred.aspx
Wow, I was over looking through Kinswilsuya's blog, just to confirm my own supsicions, that he is...a card carrying nutjob. Well he is, but I came upon this link.
If that article doesn't win the best kick in the nuts award for the year, I would be very surprised
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 7, 2008 5:47 PMIf he didn’t have his friends here at SDA he’d hardly have nobody to play with at all.
Cal: Are you implying that WK was in the washroom playing with himself?
Actually with the lack of history being taught in school I would doubt that the average 12 year old would even know what a swastika is let along the meaning behind it.
My bet is WK DIDN'T council anyone into drawing it on the wall.
Posted by: Joe at February 7, 2008 5:48 PMIf he's the best and brightest advisor to the liberals dear God how far they've sunk into stupidity.
I agree with the poster who stated it's not normal to take a camera in to a public bathroom, well unless you are a pev and wanna take naughty pictures of innocent people going about their biddness.
Posted by: Rose at February 7, 2008 5:51 PMHP, thanks for posting Jonathan Kay's comments re "the fetishization of racial hatred."
He makes the same excellent (and fairly obvious) point in his closing comments as the Mark Steyn comments I referenced earlier:
This obsession with victimhood is outdated. We live in the most tolerant nation on earth. And open racism and anti-Semitism were eliminated from mainstream society a generation ago. It is tiresome to receive earnest lectures from Knights of Tolerance who — for whatever political or psychological reason — keep raising the hue and cry against hateful hordes that long ago hung up their spurs.
Before 9/11, these self-righteous Knights were merely annoying. But no more. As the Levant/Maclean’s case shows, they are actively defending a censorship regime that serves to persecute those sounding the alarm against radical Islam — which, unlike teenage Nazi graffiti, presents a real threat to our liberal society. Perhaps those who see themselves as the protectors of society’s most vulnerable groups might cast an eye toward the challenges we face in 2008 — and stop battling the demons of 1994.
I would quibble with the "most tolerant nation" appellation. I think the Netherlands wears that crown, at least prior to some of their recent more violent manifestations of multi-culturism.
Posted by: Drained Brain at February 7, 2008 6:21 PM
"It is tiresome to receive earnest lectures from the Knights of Tolerance...who keep raising the hue and cry against hateful hordes..." -- J. Kay
True, and it's worse than tiresome to see perfectly upright bloggers being subject to specious, hateful attacks from the self-appointed leader of said "Knights."
From an interview with Theodore Dalrymple at American Spectator:
Bernard Chapin: Would you agree that the veneer of being non-judgmental is rather thin because those supposedly tolerant have no problem spewing all kinds of prejudicial invective about conservatives?
Dalrymple: The veneer of non-judgmentalism must always be thin, because non-judgmentalism is virtually an impossibility. The desirability of non-judmentalism is itself a judgement. In effect, non-judgmentalism is a rhetorical stick with which to beat aspects of the status quo which the non-judgmentalist does not like. (emph.mine)
BC: Dr. Dalrymple, would you say that the rehabilitation and clarification of basic terms -- such as prejudice, discrimination, honor, good and evil -- has become an essential task for conservatives?..
TD: I suppose I am a bit of a Confucian in the matter of the rectification of language. And I am afraid that in the present climate, the connotation of words has often taken over in importance from their denotation. Thus, since irrational racial antagonism is a manifestation of prejudice, all prejudice comes to partake of the quality of irrational racial antagonism, and the right-thinking person thinks he has to overthrow prejudice as such. This is not realistic: no one has ever lived or could ever live as if this were the case. Hence we live in a state of humbug.
Posted by: EBD at February 7, 2008 7:14 PMwhy didnt Warren of infinite observation notice the swastikas were the lucky ones , clockwise?
any well trained Neo Nazi Brownshirt boy would know the correct way to draw was counterclockwise.
Warren, I think you are pranking us. !!!! you did these yourself.
Too coincidental for him to be sitting on the throne, and the nazi insigna to appear magically on the stall wall. He was going on about it, like he had found the holy grail.
I think the door should be torn off and sent to forensics. Just to prove once and for all, that Kinswilsueya is a certified prevaricating moron.
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 7, 2008 7:35 PMOh you bad.. bad.. boy Richard. You told me you wouldn't cheat on me. Well, shame on you. Just see if you get ever lucky again! Bobbin Bob...
Posted by: Bobbin Bob at February 7, 2008 7:39 PMWeltunter-dung! Von der Shittengroppinfuhrer.
Posted by: Bernie at February 7, 2008 9:37 PMI don't know about the rules in that arena, but in the facilities that I coach at, no photographic instrument (including camera phones) are allowed in any dressing rooms or washrooms. Kinsella is fortunate there were no police or security around when he entered that washroom!
Posted by: Gus at February 7, 2008 9:38 PMJonathan Kay wrote a decent piece on Kinsella's recent shrieking. It was on Full Comment, at the Post. There were 5 comments up, and an hour later only two. Can the Prince of Darkness be this powerful?
Posted by: Johnny Maudlin at February 7, 2008 9:40 PMGetting back to swastikas, geez, they are so over as Hector Mauvaise pointed out. Charles Manson with his swastika tattooed forehead killed the mystic and cheapened the brand. The whole neo-Nazi thing jumped the shark into cultural nothingness after Seinfeld's Soup Nazi episode. Only an idiot like Warren is hunting down evidence of what counts for nothing other than a joke anymore.
Granted my husband is a US attorney and a generation older that Jason Cherniak, but, I can promise that he wouldn't hire a legal mind that feeble. *You are permitted under the concept of free speech as an absolute, unless you have the means to incite imminent harm, the right to say any lame thing that you want.* You do not have the right to be protected from that which offends you by dismantling the free speech of others.
We are staring down the barrel of the most concrete thinking killers in history since the Nazis who have blown up buildings, killed civilians where they find them and 24/7 promise to wipe out an entire country when they get a nuclear bomb and WK goes looking for dumb (as in that his facts don't add up) but not physically threatening kiddie scrawl.
Posted by: penny at February 7, 2008 10:07 PMPenny ..... Bang On!
Posted by: OMMAG at February 7, 2008 10:19 PMThank God the Conservatives have been able to hang in there for almost 2 years.
It takes a while for the drugs to kill off all of the Liberal germs that were out there, with a game plan involving confusing Canadians about The Charter, The BNA Act. The Constitution, common law, civil liberties and Human Rights.
It all became a grey area that most Canadians, who are not racist, could sooth there liberal soles by not having to sort this out, but swallow the liberal outcomes to an assault on our freedoms.
How can we trump freedom of speech?
There are laws against slander and hate crimes that already exist.
Let the plaintiff use the provisions provided in law, rather than their freedom of speech being censored by CHRC.
This is stuff of revolution against every liberal hack, who still hasn't been killed by the drugs.
We must finish the job while we can, so we can be free.
I'm guessing that "White Power" with the swastikas is actually a crudely drawn advertisement for a new laundry detergent. The swastikas represent the mixing of the clothes in the washing machine.
"'White Power' detergent cleans the dirty punks away."
Posted by: Mé at February 8, 2008 6:26 AMIf this has already been said about WK's questionable reasoning in posting the photo (this is a guy who's supposedly all about "branding"), I apologize. But it might bear repeating anyway.
The Kinsella Show has just "jumped the shark".
Posted by: RJM at February 8, 2008 12:21 PMWell, if the Western Standard can be prosecuted for republishing the Danish cartoons in the context of a news story, the Kinsella swastikas should be a slam dunk.
Posted by: Kate at February 8, 2008 1:43 PMand better beef up security in the PMO and the PCO toilets....i got a funny feeling agent warman kinsella may be doing some undercover work investigating how many nazi sympathisers there are in the upper echelons of the Conservative party.
Posted by: john begley at February 8, 2008 4:00 PMI don't know if I am sufficiently "offended" by WK's posting - I can't seem to stop giggling over the fact he thought it a good idea to advance his argument in this way ...
What fun.
Posted by: RJM at February 8, 2008 4:02 PMWell has anyone else here been threatened by Warren K today?
I sent him a good-natured warning to be careful carrying cameras in boys' washrooms, and here's what happened:
On 8-Feb-08, at 12:23 PM, Warren Kinsella wrote:
We'll see how indifferent you are about it soon enough.
Warren Kinsella
www.warrenkinsella.com
wkinsella@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:18:01 -0800
From: dbridges1@shaw.ca
Subject: Re: Contact sent through: Warren Kinsella
To: wkinsella@hotmail.com
Gee that really concerns me, Warren.
You really are a threatening bully, aren't you?
DB
On 8-Feb-08, at 12:14 PM, Warren Kinsella wrote:
You just won the asshole award, Dave! Your email, and all accompanying info, is going up now!
Warren Kinsella
www.warrenkinsella.com
wkinsella@hotmail.com
To: wkinsella@hotmail.com
Subject: Contact sent through: Warren Kinsella
From: dbridges1@shaw.ca
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:12:50 -0500
Name: Dave Bridges
IP Address:
User Agent:
Email:
Subject: bathrooms
Comment:
On Friday, February 8, 2008, 03:12 PM, Dave Bridges wrote:
If I was you, I'd be careful about loitering in boys' bathrooms with cameras, Warren!
Cheers,
DB
As you can see, I left out the IP info and other stuff....apparently Warren is going to get his friends to hack me or whatever.
Isn't it comforting to know that a vicious worm like this once had the ear of the most powerful man in Canada (and most corrupt PM ever)?
hahahahahaha, he is now trying to imply PM Harper is a nazi sympathizer. Ohhhhhhhhhhh it is like Kinswilsuya can't get enough of getting his ass kicked. Looks to me like someone is in the middle of a manic depressive episode, and has no control over his wackiness.
Does anyone else get the feeling even the lowly liberals will be slamming the door on Kinswilsuya's face, real soon like?
Posted by: Honey Pot at February 8, 2008 5:25 PM