Thankfully this detainee sideshow seems to be confined mostly to the Ottawa chattering classes and a number of left-wing bloggers with an appetite for anything scandalous to nibble on.

Why do we call them detaines anyway? Is that some official term? Was I not a detainee when I got speeding ticket. Are these brutal murdering thugs really on par with a transgressor of the Highway Traffic Act?

I have to believe that Dion, Layton and their ilk - who've consistantly agonzied over how our lads and lasses in uniform have deprived Taliban prisoners of the royal treatment - are going to get their comeuppance from the electorate.

Excellent point. Too bad it hasnt been made earlier. What did we do in Kosovo? And Cyprus is a great question, it was a nasty place from what my Army friends have told me.

And of course we all saw what can happen when we dont turn them over in Somalia.

Fighting with lawyers as part of the baggage train. There is some overhead the other side doesnt carry.

"What Would Lester Pearson Do?"

Given the article below in the National Post maybe join the Conservative Party!

Cheers

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=280672

Mike Pearson's true heir: Stephen Harper

J.L. Granatstein, National Post Published: Saturday, February 02, 2008

In many of the recent interviews he gave after the report of his Afghanistan Panel appeared, John Manley made crystal-clear that Canada's mission in Kandahar serves to uphold the United Nations Charter.

Hey, if the left had its way scum of the earth terrorists, captured on the battlefield mind you, would have lawyers, social workers, dietitians and foster families at their disposal. I'm not so far off the mark, Harvard had a scholarship Taliban student before it hit the news and they had to cut him loose.

This same lefty nonsense has been hounding Bush and our courts for years. As I see it, these little homicidal jihadis deserve nothing more that a quick military tribunal and then they can rot in the shadows forever.

Detainees my ass, they're POW's of the worst sort. They don't fight, they set bombs and run.

According to the idiots in the Opposition Parties we should build a facility to coddle the bastards.

Let's go to the electorate. If they're as stupid as the Opposition we have now in the HOC, Canada can go the way of the Banana Republics.

Get the RCMP to run the Kandhar jail for "detainees".
The Mounties know how to handle the disorderly.

What's the quote?

"We're going ask you some polite questions, give you a fair trial and shoot you. If your answers are very interesting we may skip the final step."

The status of Taliban captures in Afghanistan or Iraq is that of illegal enemy combatants. They are not entitled to the protection afforded to POWs. Illegal Enemy Combatents are not entitles to anything other than "shoot, shovel and shutup".

We have handled this all wrong right from the start. Given that battlefield summary execution, even though probably legal would not have gone over to well, we should have decided that we would treat them as POWs. POWs are protected FROM trials. As POWs they are not considered to have done anything wrong. We could have set up a POW camp in Gitmo and held them until the end of hostilities. POWs are allowed to be interrogated, but they are not obliged to give any info other than name rank and service number. That being said, if they were to be treated as POWs we would not be able to isolate them from each other.

In summary, there were two options illegal enemy combatants, entitled to no protection under the Geneva Conventions, or POWs, who have committed no crime and can't be tried, but can be held until the cessation of hostilities.

Maybe the order should be given to Canadian troops "Take NO prisoners" and we all know what that means --- then Taliban Jack would be happy!!!

Figure out what socialists Pearson would have done;and then do the opposite. That way you can't miss.

Citoyen Dion's Lester Pearson moment: April, 2007.

"He says, "We should find another solution. We may bring them in [sic] Canada. We may keep them under our control in Afghanistan." (cbc)

What is his policy today?

CBC blogs say:

Dion - Layton talks
Monday, February 4, 2008 | 11:38 AM ET
A new round opens today in the ongoing political negotiations over what happens to Canada's mission in Afghanistan post February 2009.
Stephane Dion and Jack Layton will meet later this evening in Dion's office to talk.
Layton and the NDP have a clear position on the mission's future: get out as soon as possible.
The Liberals say Canada's combat role must end by 2009.
Neither side seems willing to budge on their position and there is no desire to meet in the middle.
So whatever are the two to talk about?
Layton wants to convince Dion. Dion doesn't want convincing.
At the end of the day, the meeting may result in only one thing: making the positions of the Liberals and the NDP, and all their differences, a whole lot clearer.
And that might be enough for both of them.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/politicalbytes/2008/02/dion_layton_talks.html

I have a problem with the half-ass efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Democracy by itself does not work when Islamic ideology and shariah law are still allowed to reign supreme. Witness so-called Palestinian democracy.

Dr. Andrew Bostom posted an article about what made the US successful in Japan (ref. charles macdonald in reader tips) and in turn, Japan civilized and added much to the world post war. They didn't just deal with the tactics (ie. terror), they dealt directly with the impetus - the ideology - Shintoiism. Which is similar to Islam in that it is a totalitarian. imperialist and supremacist cult, equipped with suicide bombers, etc.

The change started in the schoolroom and jurisprudence.

The antiquated and savage Islamic ideology must be dealt with and either repositioned or eliminated. Otherwise the whole thing is a waste of time. Unless of course, people are satisfied with the current pinacles of Islamic 'civilization' and 'human rights' such as Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

Man, where to start.

1. Pearson was not a socialist, nor a pacifist. He believed in peace through superior fire power, and the moronic libranos misrepresent him every time they invoke him.

2. The taliban deserve no quarter, and should be summarily executed in the field.

3. As far as other missions are concerned, have you ever hear of "black ops"?

4. GO POLAND GO, and thank you very much for the use of 2 choppers(thanks cretin, u f@#$ing idiot). Watch the death toll drop dramatically.

GO ARMY!

If the lefties were around during WW2, when would they have demanded the troops come home?

June 5th 1944?

Some peope should be careful what they wish for. If, by equal treatment, one means the same standards afforded our soldiers, for example, the Taliban would beg off.

As any Canadian soldier knows, abusing civilians has meant you get put in front of a firing squad, or hung, or at least imprisoned for life. Enemy combatants would be treated no less severe.

That's what would have happend to a German soldier captured involved in say, a mass execution of civilians in a French village, or raping and pillaging same.

A suicide bombing at a town market is clearly a war crime, and subject to special sanctions for perpetrators and those who trained, supplied and instructed them.

Pearson was not a big spending socialists !!!! When was the last time this Marxist Moron read a book. I would suggest poli sci 100 before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

Pearson would take Jack Layton out to the shed and whup him up side the head a few dozen times to try & knock some sense into his socialist pinhead.

Probably a waste of time, Taliban Jack is sooooooo stuck on stupid.

I was in the Golan Heights in 2003. During my tour, there was a Syrian caught in our UN camp using his brother's ID card to get in and steal parts from cars. (Incidentally, all these vehicles were waiting to be chopped up and disposed of). The MP's caught him on the way out and detained him. As per the agreement, he was turned over to the local Syrian police.

A friend of mine, the Canadian MP platoon commander, later told me the story of how the MP's who turned him over could hear the local Syrian police "tuning him up" (ie beating him) before they got out of the station.

What are we to do? Send him to Canada? So anyone committing a crime would get to immigrate? Do you know who many Syrians would pay to leave that country? I was constantly told by local merchants about how they wanted to come and live in Canada, hinting to me that they would be willing to pay if I used my influence. I had to constantly explain that I had none, and it did not work that way.

Let's look at Pearson:

His finance Minister wss Walter Goprdon who wanted to block foreign takeovers and the investments that come with them, for God's sake.

He supported the Commies in Viet Nam.
He inflicted us with a socialistic nation medicare plan that dosen't work.

He gave us the Canadian Pension Plan

This soft on crime moron abolished capital punishment so that murders can live to kill again

This socialist moron gave us the Status of Women Council

He kissed the frogs ass by giving us the B& B Commission

Worst sin: this wack-job moron gave us Trudeau

Can any sane person claim that this poor sick socialist bastard didn;t start the decades of deficit budgeting?

Now, Citoyen Dion is Charles Atlas.

Or, Citoyen Samson Agony Dion.
Citoyen has the "future" in his hands. What a load of honeywagon bs by the LiberalMSM.

Citoyen on the flying trapeze: pulled/pushed between the Taliban and Taliban Jack.

Picture Citoyen on a trapeze; in Jules Leotard's leotards; pinko leotards; the abyss, aka STOPIGGY, below.

Bryden/MSM/CanPress bloviate; their bilge spewing; their asshats leaking bhkkdfrt.
...-

Dion pulled in two directions on Afghanistan

"OTTAWA - With the future of Canada's combat mission in Afghanistan resting on his shoulders, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion"

Taliban Citoyen: ""We reiterated our different positions," he said after the meeting."

Taliban Jack: ""I think what's clear is we have two paths forward here," Layton said."

Citoyen Dion has made himself perfectly clear.

Bryden says: Whipped vote.
"He [Charles Atlas Dion] said Liberal MPs will not be allowed to vote freely on a government motion on the Afghanistan mission.

"It will be a vote of the party, obviously."
http://tinyurl.com/2moy3n

One solution to this situation is to have the "pussy countries" (no offense to pussies, of course) like Germany and the various ones not willing to actually fight, take charge of the prisoners, house them in luxurious comfort at those countries' expense, and let them deal with the various hassles.

I think our soldiers would be relieved to be rid of this headache.

I know it stinks of caving in to domestic pressure, but it could be a pragmatic solution.

$0.02

I posted the perfect solution in comments at the GlobeandMail but the site is sophisticated and knows when the commenter*s computer is looking in.

The comment shows to me. I wonder if it shows to others or not.= TG

Here is the link;

theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080204.wcomment0204/CommentStory/Afghanistan/home#comment

= TG

"You think we had our own jails in Cyprus or Suez?"???

I guess somebody has to state the obvious. The UN was peacekeeping, they didn't take prisoners of war.

please libforlife , check this out before traveling to cyprus, there are jails , and they are run by the cypriots.

http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report-en.asp?country=70000

=TG

What name did u post as? Not sure what to look for.

I used the usual = TG. Can you see my two comments?

Looked for *Sumbuddy* but either you didn*t post a comment or it can only be seen by your computer. = TG

I would like to add that we have been in Cyprus for over 40 years and there is never any question of us cut and running.

The Liberals also sent our soldiers to Kosovo with poor equipment and in many cases without any means to defend themselves (e.g. bullits). This may explains why they have their shorts in a knot about Taliban prisoners.

If Dion et al are serious about this, they should demand one of two things (or both):

1. That Canada build a detainee prison in Afghanistan, manned by military police and run more or less for the length of the conflict.

2. That we build a detainee facility in Canada run by Corrections Canada with all the usual prison support facilities.

Oh, and be honest with the Canadian public when they tell them the cost for all this.

If Dion et al are serious about this, they should demand one of two things (or both):

1. That Canada build a detainee prison in Afghanistan, manned by military police and run more or less for the length of the conflict.

2. That we build a detainee facility in Canada run by Corrections Canada with all the usual prison support facilities.

Oh, and be honest with the Canadian public when they tell them the cost for all this.

I'm just sick to death of the Librano$ using ANY and ALL issues to try to drive a wedge between the Canadian voting public and the CPC. Now, it's the CPC not coddling prisoners--prisoners whose only raison d'etre is "Death to the West." Hey, that's US.

The Librano$ are truly scumbags. They are unprincipled, power-hungry pigs, dressed up in Parliamentary drag.

PMSH and his party are doing their best to rid of us of the Librano Lunacy, with no thanks or help from the other Canadian scumbags: the MSM.

If a nation ever needed prayer, Canada does, NOW.

"If a nation ever needed prayer, Canada does, NOW."

The Glob and Maul has printed their answer to prayer, in headline format today.
"Cracks Appear In Kahdr Case"
By Ommar el kaboom

How, and why does "Canada's newspaper" turn itself into "Where jihadi's go to know"

At the start of the new year we were asked for our predictions for the year.. One of mine was this s#!tbag Kahdar would return to Canada and walk free. Much to my disgust it looks like it will happen. How sad.

I guess somebody has to state the obvious. The UN was peacekeeping, they didn't take prisoners of war.

Egad, Libforlife.

First of all, blue-beret-wearing U.N. peacekeepers did in fact detain people and turn them over to local authorities, some of whom were rather unsavoury. Just read the comment by MBerridge of 04FEB at 8:16.

Secondly, captured insurgents are not Prisoners of War.

Do try and keep up next time.

JJM has a good solution.

Canada takes over a suitable vacant building in South Afghanistan. [no shortage of vacant buildings]. Staff that holding facility with Liberal prison guards and the Talibani are coddled. End of problem.

Ooops, no Catholic clergy, however. = TG

Lethter Pearthon would be slapping on the Blue Berets and calling it Peace Keeping. God forbid a fight should break out.
Not sure how he'd deal with the terrorists method of war fare. Those guys have no respect for human life so doubt they'd spare the ones wearing Blue Berets.

I'd be more interested to know what Churchill would do.

Does anybody know if the feds ARE releasing information about Af'stan and the left-wing media are just purposely ignoring it so that the news doesn't get out? It's certainly not in their mandate to show that "war sometimes is the answer".

Churchill would offer the Taliban prisoners an opportunity to provide useful information and promise that hose who chose to remain silent would face a firing squad at dawn.

Churchill would then keep his promise.

Just Google Churchill+Muslim and you will see what a knowledgable scholar he was. You will not believe it. Reads like it was written only last month. Amazing! = TG
He could spell Knowliggble too.