Small Dead Animals gets results again.
After Someone read this recent post, that Someone promptly sent an email to all Conservative staffers on Parliament Hill.
The stated goal of this mass emailing is to "markedly improve the content of letters other MPs now produce on the subject."
The email included Jason Kenny's instant classic response to whatshisname, plus a link to this article.
But I'm a terrible person who shouldn't be allowed to post here, so I'll go away now.
Looks like Small Dead Animals not only speaks for the People of Saskatchewan, it can shine lots of light on societal cockroaches.
Posted by: Soon2bexcanadian at January 19, 2008 3:47 PM"The mainstream media is now the key to the battle against Canada’s so-called human rights commissions." Media Mutts
Someone noticed!
good on ya, KS, and KM, too,...
Posted by: terrence at January 19, 2008 3:59 PMIslamic success in Europe has them emboldened.
Its was time to slap them down.
...but I think the broader situation may show us what these people are capable off.
We are not suppose to resist.
Ok, understanding that I am just a simple sailor and may have missed something, but can someone please explain why the article on Kenny's letter is in the Money section?
Posted by: Jim at January 19, 2008 4:41 PMWhy are the media ignoring this story? Do they think that it isn't an important story? Are they afraid of muslim backlash if they publish anything related to the cartoons? Or are they pissed at Ezra for showing what cowards and hypocrites they are? When Ezra was interviewed by the CBC's Harry Forrestell and on As It Happens, he made a mockery of their excuse that they didn't publish the cartoons because the repsect religion. He reminded them that they had no problem doing stories on the Piss Christ and the Dung Madonna.
Are they that petty that they put shunning Ezra ahead of his defense of a journalist's right to free speech?
They had no problem caving in to pressure over the cartoons so we know what value they put on free speech already.
I don't think the media's silence on this has done anything to raise anyone's opinion of them, I just wonder which disgraceful answer is the correct one?
Jim: I haven't a clue either!
Posted by: Soon2bexcanadian at January 19, 2008 5:00 PMis the dufus who wrote to Kenny one of the dumd-dumbs filing the complaint against Steyn ??
Posted by: Fred at January 19, 2008 5:09 PMAlmost a given Fred, but yes.
Posted by: Jim at January 19, 2008 5:11 PMIs the MSM controlled by radical Islam/terrorists? Does the MSM fear them? Why do they ignore the fact that radical Islamists are literally getting law-abiding Canadian citizens' rights take away?
If the MSM doesn't want the People to perceive it as reliable, fair and balanced; if they want to destroy themselves by proving that they're irrelevant and not worth bothering with, then the People will turn to the non-MSM online media, which is growing very rapidly and will eventually push out the old-style, badly-corrupted source of "information" which is the MSM.
Really... non-MSM types are already working to build a real alternative to the MSM. It will happen, I promise.
It's about market forces. Consumer demand.
When the People come to realize that the MSM is irrelevant, unrealiable, unfair, unbalanced and hopelessly biased... they will turn elsewhere for their news and analysis.
Hey, MSM: The customer is always right.
Posted by: The Canadian Sentinel at January 19, 2008 5:24 PMWe are underdogs. We are freedom fighters. Those who dismiss us, ridicule us, attack us, prevent us from exercising our rights... hate freedom and hate us, or are at least misinformed, misled, by extreme fascists masquerading as aggrieved persons and groups and by the mainstream media. We will work tirelessly to raise awareness with the Canadian People of these grave, dangerous injustices masquerading as justices so that these injustices are exposed, their perpetrators brought into the public spotlight and stopped for once and for all from perpetuating these hateful, supremacistic injustices against innocent, persecuted identifiable groups and individuals representing them. If we don't fight, we will end up in submission and servitude, denied our guaranteed rights, and such a prospective reality is intolerable.
-The Canadian Sentinel
Posted by: The Canadian Sentinel at January 19, 2008 5:25 PM""""But I'm a terrible person who shouldn't be allowed to post here, so I'll go away now.""""""
we mock the MSM for their childish behaviour
we say they are "scared" to print the truth about extremist muslims, and then we get this from Kathy S
Kathy, if you can't take some critizism, then maybe the MSM is the place for you!!!!
these rights are not guaranteed(for so few in the world have them)these are rights that have been earned and paid for with the sweat, blood, and tears of the people who have defended them.
Left undefended they will cease to exist.
I can completely understand Kathy's point of view. If I received as many nasty emails as her, I would take the offensive as well. I personally hope that she never stops posting here, as most of her stuff is pretty good.
I know one thing for sure. She sure can rattle the cage of most leftards. Lol!
Posted by: kingstonlad at January 19, 2008 5:52 PM"But I'm a terrible person who shouldn't be allowed to post here, so I'll go away now"
Don't do that Kathy...if you go who will be left to use the maximum amount of fee expression?
The maximum amount of free expression is, to paraphrase Ezra; the right to say what ever the hell you want to express things they way you see them and not give a rat's arse who is "offended"...BB scrotes who get offended by "words" ought to remember that an offensive statement is far more civil than a crack in the mouth with a rifle butt...and once you remove the right of people to use words to express their frustrations and settle differences, then they will logically have to use the alternative.
Frick, I hate thin skinned PC dip wads...self appointed censors are the bane of free society.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at January 19, 2008 5:58 PMThe media is not only ignoring the story. They are actively suppressing it.
Today I posted the following comment on the Globe and Mail focum in this discussion:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080119.wspainterror0119/CommentStory/International/home
It was posted at 10:13.
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look forward to having the Globe and Mail being called up before a Human Rights Commission because this type of article might offend Islamic Militants, or might created resentment against this fine religion that has given the world so much.
Right now, a Canadian publisher (Ezra Levant) is being charged in exactly this manner for offending someone's Islamic sensibilities. Right now Mcleans magazine is also being charged in the same way.
These cases are tried in a 'court' where there are no actual judges, no rules of evidence, no regard to legal precedent and standards, and no expert testimony, and where the decision making is done by a committee of political appointees.
These courts were designed to address work and housing issues, but have become our censors of thought and speech.
The complainants fill out a form, while the taxpayer foots the bill. The accused have to pay their own costs. Even if acquitted. But no worry... the these tribunals nearly always find to the complainant 100%, which defies logic, unless you realize that a huge fraction of these complaints have been launched by former government employees who think themselves to be 'on a mission'.
This past week, an employee of such a commission admitted that he masqueraded as a white supremacist to seek out hate speech. This is actually against the law. It is known as entrapment. But it's legal ammunition for a 'human rights' commission.
If you lived in communist Europe or China, or known about Stalin's Russia, you will be all too familiar with this type of court. Voice your anger. Learn more about what is happening to Canada in the name of political correctness. www.ezralevant.com
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Howevever. The post is not visible to any viewer of that threat EXCEPT ME.
In other words, the Globe and Mail have implemented a "hidden deletion of posts" mechanism, as previously has occurred in other journals, typically left wing type publications suppressing posters with conservative messages.
http://investigatethemedia.blogspot.com/2007/11/san-francisco-chronicle-deceives-its.html
So, they are not just ignoring, they are participating actively in the suppression of free speech. It is clear what side of the HRC conflict they have taken.
GYM, get yourself a dictionary, look up sarcasm.
Posted by: Jon at January 19, 2008 6:21 PMI would like to take a bit of a (small) issue with Mr. Kenney's words. He is quoted as saying,
"To be attacking opinions expressed by a columnist in a major magazine is a pretty bold attack on the basic Canadian value of freedom of the press and freedom of expression."
With respect, attacking the opinion is fine (that's the idea behind this whole fight). Attacking the right of someone to express a certain opinion is what constitutes the "bold attack".
Posted by: bryceman at January 19, 2008 6:25 PMLori Send a letters to all the competition. maybe The national or the sun might take an intrest.
I saw two opinion articles in the sun on Ezra and Styn.
I would love to see a headline saying
GLOBE AND MAIL ENEMY OF FREE SPEECH?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=95d_1200749303
Pat Condell at his best on HRCs in Canada
Posted by: Lori at January 19, 2008 7:21 PMI agree with bryce.
only by provoking these people will we get to see who they really are.
Isn't that what the danish were originaly tryng to do.
Posted by: orvict at January 19, 2008 7:27 PMI do have to point out that the National Post (the only thing I read) has been all over this like a bad rash. On the editorial page, the paper's totally behind Ezra, and lots of reader support, with a few anti's for flavoring. FYI.
Also, not that I like the G&M (ugh!) or the San Fran Chronicle (ugghh!!), but frankly no one owes anyone else a forum on their/his/her website. Posts are often deleted, or simply never added, for lots of reasons which may or may not seem reasonable to the poster, but there you are. I promise it's not a conspiracy. (In the first place, journalists & media executives can't think with that much complexity . . .)
Personally, I live my life as if the G&M (and the Star) didn't exist. Why not? I mean, I'm a conservative, Catholic American who lives below our means with my conservative, Catholic Canadian husband -- in *Alberta*! Does it get any worse? So I'm sure *I* don't exist to the G&M. At least I have the Post up here, which is quite a good paper. Back in Dallas, before I got married 3 yrs ago, I had given up reading the paper and just read news sites and my RSS aggregator.
Posted by: Meg Q at January 19, 2008 8:02 PMMeg, I agree the G&M does not owe anyone a platform, even if they call themselves "Canada's National Newspaper". My expectations from them are low, but they do have BY FAR the most active discussions in the country. BY FAR. If there is any place on the Internet where we should be trying to break into the MSM, it is there.
The manner in which the post was deleted is the issue. It takes the poster out of the conversation, even though they think they are in it. Very effective means for pushing a discussion in the desired direction.
It suggests that the paper does not want people to know that posts are selectively deleted, and to fool them into believing that all voices are being heard.
Posted by: Lori at January 19, 2008 8:47 PMOn a previous thread I noted that the Canadian Human Rights Commission spent some $24 million of your tax dollars ($17 million on wages and benefits) in fiscal 2006/07 and some $26 million in 2005/06.
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/dpr-rmr/2006-2007/inst/hrc/hrc03-eng.asp#Section3Table7
It appears that the unit cost of the US Army's UH-60L Black Hawk is $5.9 million
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-70
So, instead of buying helicopters to help our troops support freedom in Afghanistan, we are paying bureaucrats to stifle freedom in Canada.
"It is not izzy to make priorities.."
The word, 'Quisling' just popped into my mind for some reason. I think it's some kind of bird that hides its feces.
Posted by: PiperPaul at January 19, 2008 9:20 PMNo readers tip tonite but...and off this topic but relevant I think. Posted at Bourque:
The western media as we all know are leftist cowards, and would like nothing better than to see wars brought right in our living rooms. Any dirty laundry/sob story means viewership and dollars.
They may get their way. As they continue to interview soldiers families, during departure times, they inadertantly, or maybe deliberately, IDENTIFY, these same families to the public. A public that also includes terrorist sympathizers, sleeper cells, agents that are KNOWN to exist. The danger to military families at home should be obvious. But why should the media care?
How long before families at home are contacted by said enemy sympathizers? I know I will be more than just a little pissed off when that day arrives.... i don't think I would hold any domestic journalist in very high regard, when, not if that happens. What do you think
Posted by: eastern paul at January 20, 2008 12:07 AMI've had the same experience with the Globe and Mail comments, they would not allow most posts regarding Ezra and the HRC's on a story about internet censorship in Saudi Arabia. The comments were certainly relevant to the conversation. The thread was also closed at 36 posts. Several other posters complained about the censorship on that thread in other threads.
I doubt they are intelligent enough to see the hypocrisy of censoring comments on a story about free speech.
Well, we have to keep trying to bust through. Some of my Ezra Levant and HRC comments have made it through. Worth the effort, I think.
The G&M forums really are an order of magnitude more active than any other I know of in Canada, and usually are minimally moderated.
Some people on them say things that are very extreme, and easily could be construed as hate speech, things that would not be tolerated here. It's quite surprising. There's a huge amount of pent-up anger against where this country has gone in the last generation, and the right voice - calm, reasoned, not scary or hateful - might mobilize it.
Posted by: Lori at January 20, 2008 12:43 AM“But I'm a terrible person who shouldn't be allowed to post here, so I'll go away now.”
Then I must be a terrible person too because I agree with you. BTW your posts here have turned me into an avid reader of Five Feet of Fury.
Here's a related article about Calgary Bishop Henry's battle with HRC'S www.canadianchristianity.com/nationalupdates/080110bishop.html
CALGARY Bishop Fred Henry is calling for an overhaul of legislation governing human rights commissions.
"Human rights laws, designed as a shield, are now being used as a sword," Henry wrote in a December 31 email from Calgary, in what he described as an increasingly "bizarre" series of events...." read more at link
Every time Kate goes ..to the dogs.. all hell breaks loose..Kathy.. try gin for those nastiees..
G&M's goldspoon had a great, and hats off, supreme idea for capturing a lot of the New Media market for ad revenue. How can I get the most clicks..Keep in mind the owner and the opinion are forever separated at birth.
One just wants the money..the other is allowed to just think they are G@d.
The second coming (election preference) is a standard Grey Lady exeption to the rule.
lori. a calm reasoned voice will mobilize nothing. that is the attitude of the bureaucrats we are facing. you have to shout in their faces and if that doesn't work kick them in the ass, hard.
Posted by: old white guy at January 20, 2008 8:21 AMI see some folks Sarcasm Detection Machines are on the blink, eh?
John:
I see you missed this. Do TRY to keep up with the rest of us, wot?
http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/:entry:fivefeet-2008-01-18-0007/
And Old White Guy: thanks for "getting it".
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at January 20, 2008 9:37 AM