Toronto blogger Mike Brock went to a public forum yesterday, ostensibly a "debate" about the Mark Steyn/Maclean's case.
Two of Steyn's belligerent Muslim accusers spoke at the event. The organizers tried to shut Mike up when they realized he didn't support their cause.
Luckily he recorded the good parts.
One of Steyn's accusers, a supposedly well-educated young woman, up-talks like a Valley Girl, so it isn't pleasant listening.
But I'd better get used to it. She and the other law students are determined to be the future leaders of Canada.
If I'm lucky, I'll die before they achieve that ambition.
PS: more new stuff on Steyn/Levant at my place.
PPS: luckily, there's another forum set for Calgary that sounds less retarded. I'm guessing Alan Borovoy et al at least know how to speak without sticking unnecessary question marks at the end of their sentences...
Posted by KShaidle at January 19, 2008 9:13 AMI can't wait for the new CBC drama series:
Steacy of the HRC!
Actions, thrills, drama, watch as Canada's heroes of the HRC protect Canadians from alien rights like- free speech. Warren Kinsella guest stars.
Posted by: Blazingcatfur at January 19, 2008 9:45 AMIt appears that the clues are everywhere we look. The HRC troubles of Levant,Maclean's and Steyn are just results of a more heinous subversion. It appears the radical Islamists are using the CHRC act to make the HRC tribunals a defacto Sharia law court...getting them to, in effect, punish Islam's critics and strike fear into the infidel Jew.
The second thing I see here is a generation of 5th column "activists" who see the law as an outlet for deconstruction of the judeo-Christian governing principles in western culture and its rule of law...not they they have any respect for the law...that too must change as it does not meet with the needs of their Henotheist zealotry.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at January 19, 2008 10:06 AMIts interesting to note who supports this HRC complaint: progressive, activist students unions, the OFL (Ontario Federation of Labour), amoung the usual suspects of the banner waving, tax the rich crowd, sound familiar? Its surprising that they don't just break out into spontaneous renditions of the "Internationale", and hand out Mao's Little Red Book, like so many did in the 1970's. Where's Jack! when you need him or say, Buzz on this issue? Mute? Hell, where the hell is Stelmach on this issue? Its his local chapter of the Brownshirts prosecuting this case in Alberta. I guess he's out cutting "subsidies" to oil & gas companies, one of Jacks! pet peeves.
Posted by: jt at January 19, 2008 10:20 AMRight now at the Globe and Mail, a discussion on arrests of Islamic terrorists in Spain.
HRCs come up. Feel free to participate.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080119.wspainterror0119/CommentStory/International/home
Posted by: Lori at January 19, 2008 10:38 AMParticularly depressing to see student unions supporting this; once upon a time student activists were all about free speech and generally offending the alleged establishment. Now they just roll over for a gang of religous fanatics. Pathetic.
But I'm not surprised to see labour types acting like idiots - it goes with the pot belly and the beard, and it's a good chance to feel powerful. And it fits their hatred for Israel.
It's also worth noting that this Warman character is currently in a Canadian court suit against the Fourniers, Connie & Mark, and their former website Free Dominion.
Perhaps based on his successes at HRC the issue has been moved on moved to be about the responsibility of webmasters for what is posted on their sites by anyone.
This issue for the internet is just as threatening as the Levant and Steyn case, if not more so.
My feeling on the HRC matter is that the HRC will ultimately be destroyed by Steyn and Levant, but the Warman case in court will pose a problem for the internet freedom.
Two different scenarios but in the end, a free speech issue.
Posted by: Joe Molnar at January 19, 2008 10:56 AM"it goes with the pot belly and the beard"...hey, leave the women in the union brotherhood alone!
(Sorry...the opportunity was just sitting there and I couldn't help myself)
Posted by: Eeyore at January 19, 2008 11:07 AM"Mr. Warman has been a plaintiff on every single Section XIII case before the federal 'human rights' star chamber since 2002 — and he's won every one.
"That would suggest that no man in any free society anywhere on the planet has been so comprehensively deprived of his human rights."
:D :D :D ROTFLMAO!!!
How sardonically true....the poor thing has such a frail ego that it can be bruised even if the alleged hurt feelings belong to other people he has never met, nor have they complained....what a super sensitive guy ;D
BTW he IS a compulsive self-googler and net troll.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at January 19, 2008 11:21 AMThis is Ryerson, anyone who walks around that campus, will realise the students there are not the brightest things on the block.
Posted by: stephen.reeves at January 19, 2008 12:05 PMUpdate: The Globe and Mail removed the posts on HRCs. THey were up for about 1/2 hour, and then.. poof!
Posted by: Lori at January 19, 2008 1:16 PMHAND OUT the little red book? Are you kidding? I was walking around our student union building last term where somebody was _selling_ the damn thing. How's that for irony?
Posted by: Eugene at January 19, 2008 1:25 PMMaybe conservative minded Canadians could file a class action human rights complaint against media outlets like the CBC, Toronto Star, Globe and Mail, CTV for inciting hate and loathing and disrespect for conservatives in Canada.
It would only take about a week to compile a HUGE dossier of incidents.
What do you think?
Posted by: Lorraine at January 19, 2008 1:37 PMYes, WLMR, the clues are everywhere but those who can do something about it turn a blind eye, it's called gutless politics.
The HRC's are a tool for the activist/zealots to intimidate and shut down free speech. They serve no other purpose aside from the obvious enriching the legals.
Give them enough time and we will not be having these blog sites at all, too much free speech.
Posted by: Liz J at January 19, 2008 1:39 PM"Hip-hop culture glamorizes ghetto life: ’cause nowadays it’s like a badge of honor/to be a baby mama' go the words to the current hit “Baby Mama,” which young ghetto mothers view as their anthem." Posted By Kathy
I take exception to your charge against "Hip Hop Culture", Hip hop has nothing to do with the fact that as stated in earier posts: a baby is power for a woman.
The REAL facts are theat HIP HOP is the only gendre of music, or form of communication that is actually adressing the issue of how women do exactly that, use babies as a tool for power "The ol'keep-a-n**ga baby"(DR.DRE Chronic 2000).
This is why womens & leftard groups all around the world are trying desparatly stop the free speech rappers are exercising. Hip Hop shines as a beacon exposing the SCAM women are running on men all over America and Canada. Now I realize that there are millions of brillient women in Canada who don't need a man ect..., but for everyone of those there are two male appoligists picking up the slack. Rap music is the black-mans way of passing down life expirience to the next generation of young males through music and rhyme. Getting screwed over by a "baby-mama" is just the sad fact of life for todays men. This message reonates equally blacks, whites, browns ect...
The real tradjedy is the "right-wing" (which I consider myself part of) act like a bunch of morons on this issue, and support the supression of free speech, for no other reason than they don't like rap. Everyone knows that white-men (generally) have ridiculously poor taste in music, yet you let it sway your political opinions because you can't stand to here the young punks blasting some Kanye when your out in your motor homes.
Posted by: Jon at January 19, 2008 3:52 PMsorry, was typing hastely and didn't proof read.
"Hip-hop culture glamorizes ghetto life: ’cause nowadays it’s like a badge of honor/to be a baby mama' go the words to the current hit “Baby Mama,” which young ghetto mothers view as their anthem." Posted By Kathy
I take exception to your charge against "Hip Hop Culture", Hip hop has nothing to do with the fact that as stated in earier posts: a baby is power for a woman.
The REAL facts are theat HIP HOP is the only gendre of music, or form of communication that is actually adressing the issue of how women do exactly that, use babies as a tool for power "The ol'keep-a-n**ga baby"(DR.DRE Chronic 2000).
This is why womens & leftard groups all around the world are trying desperatly to stop the free speech rappers are exercising. Hip Hop shines as a beacon exposing the SCAM women are running on men all over America and Canada. Now I realize that there are millions of brilliant women in Canada who don't need a man ect..., but for everyone of those there are two male appoligists picking up the slack. Rap music is the black-mans way of passing down life experience to the next generation of young males through music and rhyme. Getting screwed over by a "baby-mama" is just the sad fact of life for todays men. This message resonates equally blacks, whites, browns ect...
The real tragedy is the "right-wing" (which I consider myself part of) act like a bunch of morons on this issue, and support the supression of free speech, for no other reason than they don't like rap. Everyone knows that white-men (generally) have ridiculously poor taste in music, yet you let it sway your political opinions because you can't stand to hear the young punks blasting some Kanye when your out in your motor homes.
Posted by: Jon at January 19, 2008 4:06 PMFurther update on the Globe and Mail.
So, it appears that the G&M has implemented "Comment deletion hiding", as discussed here:
http://investigatethemedia.blogspot.com/2007/11/san-francisco-chronicle-deceives-its.html
I know this because I made a post, then went to another computer where I was not logged on, and then the post was gone. I thought it had been deleted, but when I came back home and logged on again, my post was still there.
A sleazy trick for suppressing discussion. Good to know that's who we are dealing with.
It occurred in this discussion
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080119.wspainterror0119/CommentStory/International/home
I recommend that people avoid the Globe and Mail blogs entirely -- apart from the heavy handed censorship, they are typically about nothing -- mindless rants. I am prepared for some partisan pot-shots on any blog, but at the Globe that's all there is -- no redeeming value whatsoever -- a serious waste of time.
Posted by: LindaL at January 20, 2008 12:17 AMEvery time Kate goes ..to the dogs.. all hell breaks loose..Kathy.. try gin for those nastiees..
G&M's goldspoon had a great, and hats off, supreme idea for capturing a lot of the New Media market for ad revenue. How can I get the most clicks..Keep in mind the owner and the opinion are forever separated at birth.
One just wants the money..the other is allowed to just think they are G@d.
The second coming (election preference) is a standard Grey Lady exeption to the rule.
I guess my question is "why aren't we fighting back?". If Elsmary and others are saying Jews are pigs (I'm Catholic), why aren't we going to the HRC's and telling the Muslims to shut up? I am not a lawyer, and don't know who has standing to start one of these cases, but surely someone here does. Fight fire with fire.
Posted by: KevinB at January 20, 2008 7:37 AM"But I'd better get used to it. She and the other law students are determined to be the future leaders of Canada."
So right. Law and the media is their focus. THEY don't need more doctors or engineers.
July 28, 2005
..The CIC is holding a course in September to teach Canadian history, law, political systems and media to the community at large, but it is designed specifically for young Muslims entering the Canadian marketplace. It aims to teach Muslims the history of this country, HOW THE MEDIA WORKS, AND THEIR POLITICAL AND LEGAL RIGHTS.
We are assembling the best Muslim and non-Muslims brains in this country to instruct these courses," said Elmasry. "CIC gives annually a scholarship to a Muslim university student of political science, law, media or social work, because these professions help the Muslim community to enhance their smart integration. WE HAVE ENOUGH ENGINEERS AND DOCTORS."
www.canadianchristianity.com/cgi-bin/na.cgi?nationalupdates/050728muslims
Posted by: JM at January 20, 2008 8:17 AMElmasry, we keep hearing from that individual with his brilliant ideas. One was any Jew over the age of 18 years was fair game for killing.
This is a man who remains a tenured professor in one of our Universities. Where's the sanity?
You keep saying. . . ** against all Muslims**.
How could you not be aware that millions of moderate Muslims exist? They are bright enough not to assume the jihadist label.
The contention is with * extremest Muslims*. It took this sector of Imams or Mullahs three months of organizing to orchestrate the violent cartoon *spontaneous backlash*.
Ezra Levant brought us this very real and genuine story when the PC MSM trembled in their boots.
There is the big Nanny policy of keeping Canadians in the dark about really nasty things for our own good .
Canadians are deemed too tender to see reality about soldiers hanging from bridges while 12 year old Iraqi boys laugh and point from below.
Big Nanny decides to *shield* us at our peril. As a voter, I can not recall ever voting for **Big Nanny**.
If government had enacted a temporary publishing restraint law on Muslim cartoons during the sensitive time period, there may have been grounds for a case.
As the story was genuine news and there was no anti- cartoon law in effect, it follows no offense was committed.
The cartoons had all been published previously. To prove any case of intent to harm Muslims, Levant would have had to add new original cartoons of his own making.
The Alberta HRC has a 100% conviction record.
There are some ugly labels that apply to tribunals that administer punishment 100% of the time. = TG