Clearly, Dufus une and Dufus two have trouble with cognitive maps. Their eyes glaze over when they hear:
Continuity ... maintaining momentum ... the security situation remains too volatile for a major shift in strategy ... troop levels must be increased.
Either that, or they are two of the most slimy (L)iberal weasels to foul the Afghan air in a long time.
I suppose we should look at the bright side, though. If by some chance the liberals defeat Stephen Harper in the next election (peace be upon him), and they opt for premature withdrawal, at least the marines will be in place to take over.
Update:
From Mark in the comments ... USA Marines in Afghanistan will be under Canadian overall command.
I see the hand of Harper in this ... evil ... conniving ... genius. Let's see premature withdrawal now.
Posted by Cjunk at January 15, 2008 6:24 PMI understand these two twits actually now claim that Canadian troops should STAY in Afghan past 2009, but only in a rebuilding mode.
Pretty hard to successfully build something when gangs of murderous terrorists are still roaming the area, intent on killing you and anyone else who gets in their way.
But when have LPC hacks ever let REALITY stop them from making unworkable but feely-goody pronouncements before?
The MSM sure as f*ck won't call them on it.
Posted by: teddy at January 15, 2008 6:45 PMPair of bozos. Absolutely an embarrassment as representatives to Canada. To think I actually admired Mr. Ignatieff at one time. Before he sold his soul in his quest for power.
Posted by: Paul at January 15, 2008 6:51 PMDid anyone get a look at Dion in that camp hat? What a dork!
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 15, 2008 7:05 PMAs someone who wore the Uniform of the Canadian Armed Forces back in the late 70's I was actually SICKENED when I saw on the news those 2 Liberal ass-clowns prancing around Afghanistan wearing Canadian Forces Camo jackets.
I was hoping to see Dion in his photo op in front of the troops grabbing an Assault Rifle so I could watch him break his wrists trying to lift it off the table!
Mr.g
Posted by: Mr.g at January 15, 2008 7:24 PMThis was not iggys first trip to the area.
Dust My Broom has a post up of a previous trip, and what he wrote about it.
I am embarrased as a Canadian to think that those two represented the official opposition to our govt in Afganistan.Where is the Canadian ideal of a free people where ever they may reside?Its one thing to oppose some Canadian legislation,its quite another to oppose freedom for Afgan woman.They should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: spike 1 at January 15, 2008 7:41 PMDion's mind was made up before he went to Afghan; he only went because Mainsbridge embarassed him in interview, politely asking him why he has taken such a strong stand when he hasn't even gone over.
On another note - Liberals screamed their were "endangered" by Tory leaking their itinerary. Yes the Taliban were aware where Dion would be, could have attacked, but declined (sarc off).
Posted by: Shamrock at January 15, 2008 7:45 PMI had to quit reading the first link, I found myself reading it with a bad French accent, too wierd.
Posted by: Joanne at January 15, 2008 7:55 PMI mean 'weird,' - what can I tell yah!
Posted by: Joanne at January 15, 2008 7:57 PMWhy is sex with liberals so unsatisfying?
Because they always withdraw prematurely.
Ta-daaa!
Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at January 15, 2008 8:07 PMYes teddy @6.45 PM, "I understand these two twits actually now claim that Canadian troops should STAY in Afghan past 2009, but only in a rebuilding mode."
But only somewhere where they won't have to shoot their evil long guns.
Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at January 15, 2008 8:09 PMThese two should have been forced to wear army issue short pants and a beanie with a propeller on it, while in Afstan, while parading about with a bull's eye on their backs. That way, their friends the Taleban could more effectively converse with them in their own particular way. Imagine the uproar when our yellow media promoted the idea that they were "entitled" to a trip down the Highway of Heros, on an eqaul footing with the real heros of Afstan, once their meeting with the Taleban was over. GACK! Gag me with a spoon!
Posted by: jt at January 15, 2008 8:10 PMImagine them meeting kharzai.
L'homme du peeple: Now listen, support us and we will run and hide.
Kharzai:
LDP: We will vasillinate.
Kharzai:
Iggy pop:
Kharzai: Now go.
Shamrock..re: leaking the itinerary. Guergis has been criticised for the 'leak', but she was acually responding to a Liberal press release about the trip.
Just more puffin poo.
I agree. They are an embarassment.Hope, we as tax payers, didn't foot the bill.
Posted by: sysk at January 15, 2008 9:08 PMYour read it here first:
"Marine combat troops in Afstan will be under overall Canadian command"
Mark
Ottawa
Two socialist university professors representing Canada's opposition--how embarrassing!!
Stay and do "good work" as long as the American troops protect us!--how embarrassing is that??
Posted by: MJH at January 15, 2008 9:35 PMWOnderfull, Dijon picking up a hockey stick in Afghanistan!
Maybe next time the f&*k can pick up a mine-detector.
Such a loser sh*tforbrains!
Same goes for his anal retentive bridesmaid "Icky".
Posted by: eastern paul at January 15, 2008 9:40 PMThe convoluted thinking of Conservatives is so hypocritical: complain for months that the leader of the opposition hasn't visited the troops in Afghanistan, then complain even more when he does.
It's also hypocritical of the Conservatives to be constantly trying to shut down debate about Afghanistan ("Support the Troops, blah, blah, blah") because "the Taliban read the internet", then go on to endanger the lives of Canadians by revealing the location of our politicians. I wonder what you psychos would say if soldiers were killed in an attack, and not just Dion (which Small Dead Minds are seemingly salivating for).
Guergis should lose any security clearance she has and then be fired. But she won't be, because she is just a meat puppet carrying out Harper's machinations.
Posted by: lberia at January 15, 2008 9:45 PMI really don't know what has happened to Prince Michael. Before he became closely involved with the Liberals he seemed to be intelligent and to possess some integrity. But then was then and now is now.
You're onto us Iberia.
Posted by: Paul2 at January 15, 2008 9:58 PMI clicked on the 'foul the air' link and saw the picture of the two 'the road' stars.
I recognized Ignatieff, stupid as the look was on his face, but the other guy ... I am sure he was the guy who played Garth in "Wayne's World".
Is the leader of the opposition actually Dana Carvey?
Posted by: John West at January 15, 2008 10:36 PMIf we are in country then it is imperative that we give our troops the robust ROE required to carry out the mission, protected themselves, their allies and the civilian population. Anything less is criminal. Therefore of the two opposition parties the NDP has the most reasonable proposal, better that our troops are completly away from danger and withdraw from Afghanistan then to have them in the country and without the means to fight back.
Posted by: Don at January 15, 2008 11:08 PMThe American leadership gets it. They get the big picture and it is obvious that they will not let Afghanistan fail. I also think that they get the big picture on the political situations in many of the NATO supporting countries (including Canada).
Dion and Ignatieff are coming across ever more poorly (to every non-ideologue) as time goes by. They are slowly starting to change their position in Afghanistan (based on political numbers) and this is an opportunity for Harper to start pushing for a new long term commitment to support the success of Afghanistan which, after all, is in best interests of Canada.
Posted by: cconn at January 15, 2008 11:27 PM"I was hoping to see Dion in his photo op in front of the troops grabbing an Assault Rifle so I could watch him break his wrists trying to lift it off the table!"
Mr.g..
Heh! did anyone else get a Montgomery Burns image in their minds, with Dions face on the body, puny little arms struggling furiously to lift that rifle? hahahaha
Posted by: kursk at January 15, 2008 11:50 PMI wonder what you psychos would say if soldiers were killed in an attack, and not just Dion (which Small Dead Minds are seemingly salivating for).
Yeah, because that is EXACTLY what everyone here wants - Dion's death. Right.
Do you Liberals come born with a label that says "retarded", or do you earn that through life with every kick-me sign that gets planted on your back? Seriously, you ARE an idiot.
Posted by: Lycan Stark at January 16, 2008 12:39 AMSorry Kate, I know that your comment policy states that you don't want flamewars, but the above mentioned poster went way off the deep end. To actually believe that we are sitting here "salivating" at the thought of Dion possibly being killed by the Taliban. This Iberia is definetley treading into dangerous waters with a comment like that.
Posted by: Lycan Stark at January 16, 2008 1:03 AMIberia,
Only to the demented liberal mind does saying that Citoyen Dion and Iggy Pop were going to a Provincial Reconstruction Team base , equate revealing a location. There are hundreds of PRT's in Afstan.
But then, there were soldiers, with guns,lots of soldiers with guns everywhere, I'm not making this up.
Go back to basket weaving and leave the heavy lifting to those more capable.
Posted by: Pat at January 16, 2008 1:22 AMSorry Kate, I know that your comment policy states that you don't want flamewars, but the above mentioned poster went way off the deep end. To actually believe that we are sitting here "salivating" at the thought of Dion possibly being killed by the Taliban. This Iberia is definetley treading into dangerous waters with a comment like that.
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Exactly Lycan,if anything,we want Steffi Dion back home without so much as a scratch,us Right-Wingers need him here in Canada fit and healthy so he can LOSE the next election!
Alright,maybe not fit and healthy,but perhaps with a touch of the flu!!!
Mr.g
Posted by: Mr.g at January 16, 2008 1:22 AM[quote]If we are in country then it is imperative that we give our troops the robust ROE required to carry out the mission, protected themselves, their allies and the civilian population. Anything less is criminal. Therefore of the two opposition parties the NDP has the most reasonable proposal, better that our troops are completly away from danger and withdraw from Afghanistan then to have them in the country and without the means to fight back.[/quote]
Don,
That sounds like a wonderful idea. What if
all the Canadian Troops Changed Uniforms?
The NDP needs military training, not the Troops!
You have to wonder how many Canadian lives would have been saved from roadside IEDs in Afghanistan if they'd had the use of helicopters? Jean Chretien must be proud of himself............
To have this pair of twits in the same base as Canadian troops is a disgrace!
as long as islam is the controlling factor nothing will change or improve. when we are gone they will revert to the old islamic ways.
Posted by: old white guy at January 16, 2008 7:00 AMAdd lberia to the list of doofuses (Paul2, note the more typical spelling..."doofus").
He says Conservatives are "...constantly trying to shut down debate about Afghanistan ...". Let's try that again, shall we? The Liberals put us into Afghanistan WITHOUT a debate while the Conservatives held a debate (they won) AND have created a task force that will report to parliament where they will debate AGAIN.
If the facts don't support your twisted view, just make them up, eh lberia? Pathetic, partisan moron.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 16, 2008 7:00 AMRight, one Jean Chretien made the decision to send troops to Afghanistan, no debate, case closed, the Master decided. The Liberals have no where to go so they're blaming the Conservative government for trying to finish the job Chretien committed to.
This phase of the Mission was decided with a vote in the HOC. Manley's task force will advise further and it will be dealt with in the HOC, all Parties will be involved.
The spineless, gutless Socialistic minds of the Left was well apparent with the Puffin poop bird show that showed up in Afghanistan to contradict this country's present PM.
Notice too, they had along their faithful minions in Press to cover their sorry goose chase.
Reminds me of Mr. Beans Vacation.
Posted by: Sounder at January 16, 2008 10:00 AMI really think this is a stunt for the MSM before the Manley report. I don't know what going to be reported but I bet you they do. If Manley reports that "the Canadians are helping Afghanistan" in the protection and rebuilding rights issue you can bet they will be on board.
I think this has to be "debated" with all governing parties. Then it should be "debated" what roll Canada is in the "UN" by the people of Canada.
All we hear is the negatives that is happening in and with our Canadian forces from the MSM. If the MSM does say anything positive it must taste bad in there mouth. Maybe that's why we don't hear it.
They blame the Minority Conservatives of the time, for the unfunded "armed forces", when from the sixties they have been pulling money out to fund every social program so they could top up their own pockets.
Lets face it people that these two clowns are only the dressing for a lot smarter crooks that are trying to get them into power. Merle Underwood
Posted by: Merle Underwood at January 16, 2008 10:13 AMCute cartoon in the Edmonton Journal yesterday. DeYawn and Puffin Poo were bragging of the success they had meeting the troops. "They were cold at first" said DeYawn. "But by the time we were leaving they were slapping us on the back" said Iggy. On Iggy's back was a Support our troops ribbon with a note "Return to Sender" and on DeYawn's back was a target.
Posted by: Joe at January 16, 2008 11:04 AMU-Beria ... Medication ON or OFF today ??
Posted by: OMMAG at January 16, 2008 12:34 PMNeither OMMAG, just having some fun. Hope you're having a nice day.
Posted by: lberia at January 16, 2008 5:51 PMAnd this pair of losers think that they should have been above the violence in Afganistan by not making their itinerary known.They should be ashamed of themselves for not supporting the troops by trying to isolate themselves from the conflict.They are'nt the govt.,they are the opposition and if they were killed others will be elected or APPOINTED to take their place.
Posted by: spike 1 at January 16, 2008 8:23 PM