Some women in his mosque allege that:

Yep -- treated like a dog! Why am I not surprised?

There's a saying about dining with wolves. The good imam should question the degree to which the HRC has been using him to advance its own agenda. This little fix of Judaism might help.

Avot 2:3: "Be careful with authorities, for they do not befriend a person except for their own sake. They appear as friends when they benefit from it, but they do not stand by a person in his time of need."

Great article. These guys are real sweethearts! Forget the HRC - sounds like this should involve serious criminal investigations. Go get em!

Let the light shine brightly.

It took tremendous courage for these women to stand up and be counted because of the probable almost overwhelming intimidation from some within their own community.

When they feel the the time has come to open up, then it is time for all of us to stand up and be counted as well. It is going to take all of us to get the job done and time is precious.

To often the ones beginning a major change process publicly are hung out to dry, and we simply cannot allow this to happen on these issues.

**Let me be clear: I don't wish the women of Soharwardy's mosque success in their human rights complaint against him. All of my arguments against the commission apply to their complaint as much as it applies to Soharwardy's complaint against our magazine.**

Good for Ezra in applying consistency to the principle that bad behavior unless physically assaultive should be tried in the court of public opinion, if the press were to do it's job, and within the organization where it resides, anywhere but the state as arbitrator.

The mosque has choices. The offended women are free to find another mosque. Prior to the advent of the Nanny State, things did get resolved in private at a community level.

What's it say about the bird brains at the HRC who surely knew about Soharwardy's baggage, but, still jumped on his bogus complaint against the Weekly Standard?

Lay down with dogs and you are bound to pick up fleas.

This is turning into a Hillary versus Obama catfight at the HRC.

as long as the dogs aren't biting you that is. threats of violence and coercion are police matters.

Which would be normally investigated, unless the police are hopelessly politicized and corrupted.

Aside from the RCMP (too many examples), and the OPP's actions in Caledonia, I guess we're ok huh?

this would be a good time for all the tax payer funded womens rights groups to jump in and help defend these ladies !!

"that bad behavior unless physically assaultive"

It is true that we have not heard the other side to this. However, claims of death threats and the specific request of police protection from the one whose letter was translated from Urdu are more than simply disconcerting.

Why is it that many of us reading these articles feel a real empathy for those who know even better than we just how potentially violent some of these people can be?

And why is it that while we do not have a certain expectation that the death threats will be carried out, we also do not have a certain expectation that the death threats will not be carried out?

this has all the makings of a CBC mini-series.... "Inside Little Mosque on the Prairie"

Who wants to bet that in the absence of media light that the Kangaroo courts would have aquited the sexist because minorities can't be wrong but nailed Ezra.

This case has still not received the scrutiny it deserves from the useless, hypocritical, biased MSM. Only a few columnists in a few local papers have covered it so far.

What is interesting is that the Human Rights complaint by the women is internal. That is, the issue is not that the women are complaining that an external agent is exposing them to 'hatred and contempt'. It's their own people, the authoritative men.

Now, as pointed out above, where are the feminist Liberals in this situation? Why aren't they loudly and openly speaking on behalf of these women?

And, as much as I agree with Ezra that the HRAct and its Commissions are a travesty against human rights, I'd like to see them REFUSE to take this case. That would be yet another nail against these Commissions.

As for the claims that this association/mosque is not really a charity but a private scam - that's for the police to investigate. Will they do it? Or will they be frightened of the HRC and the Media and the Liberal/NDP stepping in to prevent them?

I wonder if Warren Kinsella will cover this one. If he does, will it be full burka-style (censorship) or otherwise?

There is only one thing for those women to do:

DENOUNCE ISLAM.

A few days ago Malik Shoukat Ashraf and Prof. Baddi-u-Din Soharwardi threatened me again through other sources saying, “ This is the last warning to you to stop propaganda against us.”
“Naeem Butt you are living here as a refugee, your refugee case is still pending, you do not have any status in this country.
As for Malik Shoukat Ashraf and Prof. Baddi-u-Din, they have connections with the high officials of this country.
They said I should give my resignation of the president of the action committee if not Prof. Baddi-u-Din will deport me from this peaceful country back to Pakistan. You will then see the power of Soharwardi in Pakistan.

This could be more than interesting if proven. That Ashraf and Soharwardi have connections with Canadian officials so significant that they can influence the refugee process in a negative way to send the plaintiff back to Pakistan. He is claiming that Soharwardi wants to control him in Canada; if Soharwardi can't do that here, he can have the plaintiff sent back to a country where he can control (or otherwise) him.

If proven...

Despite not wanting to legitimize the HRCs, I can't help but wonder if a large group of individuals inundated them with complaints, alleging that these complainants violated the rights of others, if it would cause the HRCs to grind to a halt under the overwhelming load. The HRCs do have to examine and investigate every complaint and the complainant does not have to pay for any of it. It would certainly use their rules and tactics against them. Live by the sword.....

Same thread over at LGF. Interesting.

The complaint that the operators of the mosque discriminated against the women is in line with the original concept of the HRC and they should focus on this case as it will force mosque leadership in Canada to follow Canadian law and treat woman equally. Ensuring woman have equal access in the mosques and in the administration of them will dilute the power of the radicals.

The mosque is used by the radicals as a meeting place, fund generator and a enforcement tool to suppress dissent. Expulsion from the community is a major threat to the average devout Muslim who holds community involvement as a highly important factor.

To destroy radical Islam you must first loosen their grip on the mosques and then the Islamic schools.

Kudos to the National Post today for reprinting Ezra Levant's complete opening statement to the Alberta Human Rights Commission on Page A13.

This is a sexist comment, but I do believe it will be the muslim women that change the face of islam. It is their sisters, mothers, daughters, aunts, and cousins who are dying under the oppressive tyranny of islam. You can't tell me the younger ones don't look at islam and are ashamed of it, and what it represents. The old imans know this and that is why they push hard to oppress them, using any brutal form of punishment they can think of to quiet them. It won't be the mealy mouth paid feminist groups in Canada that will be the agent of change. It will be real women of both muslim and non-mulsim orgin, with courage and conviction that change it.

The truth is out.

And it's devastating.

To both the Islamofascists and the Far Left.

Sic semper tyrannis!

At this point it is now hardball, not softball. The federal HRC pretty much has to accept the complaint - just as they accepted the one re MacLeans/Steyn.

The odds of change in the federal HRC is about as likely as getting huge change within the IRB or any other quasi-judicial federal agency. Soooo, let the process go federally and extract that all important public apology from the respondent with promises to do better - whether the settlement is mediated or otherwise. The publicity around both of these filings may be enough to bring some change and it is worth a try.

The best shot at trying to have an entire HRC dismantled probably rests right now in AB. Once the publicity breaks in the MSM - and it is bound to - plus the fact there will likely be an election call in February, is going to put the Stelmach government under tremendous pressure.

They have a whole host of issues they have to be accountable for already, and this could erupt into another major embarrassment. Something is going to give.

These Muslim women should take their complaints to the police, but they will probably ignore the Muslim women until a dead Muslim female turns up or floats up, whichever.

These Muslim women need to get themselves a good lawyer first.

1:35 p.m. mountain time - Ezra is coming up as a guest on Adler.

Soharwardy is a Jew hater and a man who beleives that the Canadian Constitution should be replaced with the Quran. He should be deported immediately!

Too funny.

You know,combining Levant,Soharwardy and these women would have the makings of a great Jerry Springer episode.

MSM coverage from Halifax.
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Protect us from human rights commissions
By PAUL SCHNEIDEREIT
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/1024759.html

teddy, the only difference is that when the Muslim women take off their tops, suicide vests would suddenly explode killing everyone in the studio.

Angus H Christ!! wake me up when all the theocratic dogma wars are over...didn't this crap start back in 2nd century?...and it still rages??

Why do we play onto the hands of the fomenters in these supernatural priesthoods?

IGNORE THEM !!

To see these latest revelations makes me think: what other organizations in North America are small minorities in the population, but are able to leverage enormous power through well-understood threats and actions of violence, particularly within their own communities?

How does radical Islam in North America differ from the Mob?

Do we need a new generation of "The Untouchables" to deal with this threat? Somehow, I don't see the current Ministries of Truth as being capable.

I think it is a VERY VERY bad sign that this story is not on the front page of every paper. These are some very nasty people we are dealing with. After Elmasery's comments on Michael Coren, he should have at least been shunned by polite society, and certainly not allowed to harrass his fellow citizens on the taxpayers' dime because he felt 'offended.' Why did we never hear from the Jewish Canadians who might have been offended by his suggestion that every Jew in Israel was a legimate target? these are nasty nasty people. REad about James Madison at www.darrellepp.com

Imagine being a Jewish student (or a conservative for that matter) at the University of Waterloo where Elmasry teaches. How comnfortable they must feel in his class (though I'm sure they are quietly assigned a different prof).
Not only is this scumbag not shunned, he is completely and totally supported by UW. His non-apology apology was good enough for them.

I no longer financially support my old school because of him (and I let them know as well).

I urge all UW alumni to stop donating to them. Otherwise, you end up supporting the push for Sharia that Elmasry desires.

It's stories like this that make me think that we should gather up the last 12 Canadian Ministers of Immigration and hang them by their necks from lamposts in a public square as an example for the next 12 future Ministers of Immigration.

Mr.g

WL Mackenzie Redux

Let's all just put our heads in the sand and make it go away.

teddy said:

"Too funny, You know,combining Levant,Soharwardy and these women would have the makings of a great Jerry Springer episode."

Ya. The devolution of our rights as free citizens is hilarious.

Mr.G.
We don't hang people in Canada anymore. Your suggestion is out of line and I consider it an incitement to violence.
Please fuck off.This forum is for individuals to discuss current topics, not to espouse hatred and violence. You are obviously a moby.

Honey Pot:
"This is a sexist comment," Only a liberal would feel guilty about that. The "mealy mouth paid feminist groups" tho, is grounds for stoning!

What's needed is a Muslim Rosa Parks. If she changed a nation, these women can change how Muslim women are treated in Canada.
Will be interested in the outcome. Anyone believe they'll win their case?

gellen, there is already. Her name is Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

You think the MSM cares?

breaking news: the King has no clothes!
MSM stunned into silence

They really don't want this getting out.

"Ya. The devolution of our rights as free citizens is hilarious."

missing link,

Yes, but will you stand up and defend my right to express the humour I find in a living example of utter hypocrisy and sweet justice such as this?

Mr.g - an over the top piece of rhetoric to be sure, but, notice you aren't going to be hunted down and hauled off to the thought crimes tribunal for punishment and re-education, that's the point about speech that is really free. But, perhaps that was your point.

The court of public opinion here called you on it as it should be in a free society. You reinforce the point about how disgusting it is for the state to be in the speech muzzling business.

orvict says, "breaking news: the King has no clothes! MSM stunned into silence.

"They really don't want this getting out."

Huh? What's the context? King? Martin Luther? Sex scandals or what?

Be more specific, please.

What is the difference between being a ggod golfer and being a "good" MSM journalist?

You need balls to be a good golfer.

This information is incredibly shocking. If this is true, something must be done very quickly. Canada is supposed to be a place where people come to get away from oppression. The liberal party needs to take some action.

The worst part of this is that this HRC garbage can end up with Cops with guns coming to enforce the results of this Kangaroo Court.

In Canada you say!!! Cops with Guns?? On orders from the HRC?? Not in Canada!!!!eh??

Love Honey, you will have to make exceptions for me and my stupid politically correct dumb talk, that rears its fucked up head from time to time. I used to be a liberal, and shaking the shakelss of the insanity, is harder than one would think.

Mr.g
Read your comments on the last 12 immigration ministers. Formerly of London, England. myself and this was my reaction.
"Well... yer 'ave to 'ave a bit of a bloomin' laugh wunce in a wile"
Yes, if we cannot use hyperbole it is a sad world.

Mr.g - an over the top piece of rhetoric to be sure, but, notice you aren't going to be hunted down and hauled off to the thought crimes tribunal for punishment and re-education, that's the point about speech that is really free. But, perhaps that was your point.

The court of public opinion here called you on it as it should be in a free society. You reinforce the point about how disgusting it is for the state to be in the speech muzzling business.

Posted by: penny at January 15, 2008 6:21 PM

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KA-CHINNGG

BING!BING!BING!BING!BING!

Looks like Penny got it!

In regards to the Hangings?

Okay,perhaps only the LIBERAL immigration Ministers!

Nyuk,Nyuk,Nyuk!

Mr.g

Soharwardy appealed to Media Monitor Network in 2003 to have our beloved CBC's funding frozen because of their racist reporting about Islam. Aside from his lack of sanity..he actually may have an angle about what to do about our beloved CBC eh? Aaargghh!
The link to the grandpoobah's letter
http://world.mediamonitors.net/headlines/cbc_must_stop_acting_like_cnn_an_open_letter_the_president_of_crtc

lookout
king=emperor

duh

why all the indignation about the poor muslum women, we let the COP wearing a TURBIN slide right by. In the sihk community the head gear signifies social postion and authority within the sihk community, thusly a cop with a turbin on his head (especialy a red, blue or maroon) can be intimidating to WOMEN and men of lower castes

lookout,
Review Hans Christian Andersen.

If you have a human rights complaint against someone, and someone else has a human rights complaint against you, they should cancel out.

Bart presupposed:

" WL Mackenzie Redux Let's all just put our heads in the sand and make it go away."

You haven't been around here that long have you?

My point was that I would live to igore these reluigious tinhorns whether they;re Jewish pressure groups seeking special victimhood status or radical Christina loopers condemning everything from Rock and roll to lipstick as the "work of the devil to these nutter Imans acting as god's Purolator to earth...I wish they got the notoriety they deserve...which is nothing...the the corporate whores in the MSM ...always fast to make a buck publish their drivel as "controversy" when in fact it is anti-intellectual crap and should be ignored.

To me the mumbling of these ass-hats claiming to speak as god's earthly agents is excessively revolting and boring.

As for being unconcerned, I have to wonnder if your democratic activism can match mine of the past 30 years.

OK, we agree that the Western Standard brought us the plot of the Story behind the cartoons and thus news is not an abuse of human rights.

Did you notice in the Muslim women*s complaints, the mention of wrongfully directing funds raised as a licensed charity?

Did you twigg to the fishy real estate deals?

These quick money raising schemes ring a bell with me because Muslims took over a Hotel, restaurant and club complex here and after about a year, vanished with the collected cash while owing suppliers.

Call me suspicious if you like, but I wonder sometimes if our Ottawa sharpies are onto these scams and how or if they relate. = TG

Bart presupposed:

" WL Mackenzie Redux Let's all just put our heads in the sand and make it go away." ...

You haven't been around here that long have you?

Why? Does being around for a long time Make you
Smarter?

Just go back to sleep, their are those who will keep an eye on things for you.ZZZZZZZZZZZ

Yes, but will you stand up and defend my right to express the humour I find in a living example of utter hypocrisy and sweet justice such as this?

Yeah sure Teddy, I'll stand up, once you explain the joke and how many points the sweet justice has cost me on the Free Speech Watchers plan.

As regards the letter/complaint re the financial goings on (see ezra's blog) - this would appear much beyond the scope of the HRC - and well it should be.

Having watched a good deal of the Air India Inquiry, it became very apparent that whatever laws there are as regards registered (and particularly non-registered) charities, they are very weak/barely enforced and not at all co-ordinated between the Provincial/Federal governments.

In fact, this area apparently is primarily a provincial responsibility, and it is virtually not being addressed. It is downright scary to listen to witnesses from Canada Revenue, Fintrac, and other well informed people on this subject as well as on money laundering in terms of what is not happening.

Non registered charities are basically free to operate by intimidation if they so choose and guess what - they probably do. Canada is becoming rather well known for the off-shore fund raising that goes on. Sort of like what is happening with non-deportation deportations.

Let the sun shine brightly on this side of what seems to be coming out as well.

The targets now become not only the HRCs but registered and non-registered charities as well. The Calgary City Police are highly unlikely to keep the public informed about what is happening - to often it is the way the choose to operate.

Hopefully the complainants will keep us informed as Ezra has been doing and by so doing, the whole thing will continue to get aired in public.

Ahhh, a resonate chord. I hope more of us check the link on this post which is this. .

http://ezralevant.com/2008/01/inside-syed-soharwardys-mosque.html

and at least wonder about the complaints of the Muslim women there. Think and ponder where all that non- recorded money and real estate goes.

What unregistered cause does it feed? = TG

Give it a rest buttheads, imam trumps.

A muslim Rosa Parks?

Her namme is Wafa Sultana. Find her speaking here:
http://tinyurl.com/2xodhb

Then share it with your liberal/feminist/left wing friends.

islam. the gift that keeps on giving.