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January 9, 2008

Raise Fist

Apply Liberally;

Another shocking case of police brutality has come to the fore. The Ludhiana police has thrashed two young children black and blue for attempting to steal the purse of a visiting MP from Canada -- Ruby Dhalla. The young children aged nine and five were beaten brutally and were shown no mercy by the police officials. Even their age factor didn't deter the Punjab police to beat them for a minor crime. The two children reportedly snatched Dhalla's purse from the sofa where she was seated. The purse had the MPs passport and her valuables in it.

My source advises that "it just made Mike Duffy, and Graham Richardson said that her staffers chased the kids down and handed them over to police for the ass kicking."

And she should know as the Opposition critic in charge of child care issues!

Video here.

Update: Good points in the comments - this should mark the end of Liberal allegations about our troops turning Taliban detainees over to Afghan police, yes? If it's good enough for a 5 year old Indian girl...

Posted by Kate at January 9, 2008 5:36 PM
Comments

It's about time an old-fashioned ass kicking was given to the little tykes for breaking the law. I was, and remain saddened when the Canadian Government banned the use of the lash as punishment. It was an effective tool in the rehabilitation of criminal elements in our society.

Posted by: Ralph R. at January 9, 2008 5:49 PM

Under the Liberal protocol didn't Foreign Affairs say we had to follow the Geneva Convention and hand them over to the concierge at the closest Four Seasons?

Posted by: nomdeblog at January 9, 2008 5:59 PM

She was more on the mark with her first comment, too bad she waffled.

Let me guess they screamed bloody murder and ran around trying to cover their a--. So?

I bet lots of readers here know exactly how they felt?

Posted by: Mugs at January 9, 2008 6:05 PM

The kids should consider themselves damn lucky they didn't try to steal that purse at YVR.

The Mounties would have tasered them first.

Posted by: teddy at January 9, 2008 6:08 PM

Standard operating procedure according to a friend of mine from the Kolcata area. He would know - he was a student radical, and one of his friends, a former radical, is now a town police chief ...

Posted by: John Lewis at January 9, 2008 6:09 PM

Geez, take a breath folks; these are 9 year olds, in our scale Grade 3's! Any teacher here, that beat up a Gr 3 student that badly, would be doing penitentiary time. Punishment, absolutely, but beating the crap out of them?! "Punch-Jab" police...

Posted by: DaninVan at January 9, 2008 6:21 PM

Sorry, worse, a 9yr old and a 5yr old...a kindergarten perp!

Posted by: DaninVan at January 9, 2008 6:25 PM

What was that bit about Mike Duffy chasing them down?! Now I KNOW I'm being had.

Posted by: DaninVan at January 9, 2008 6:26 PM

Notice how the MSM sanitized the story for one of their Liberal friends


Posted by: Karl at January 9, 2008 6:29 PM

It appears that an open police beating is more cost effective for this jurisdiction than the cost of dispatching state authorized psychopaths (SWAT) to cope with such civil unrest...I'm sure if they had the money they would be more discrete and more effective with their police state civil control.

Public police beatings ,brrr... no prosperous technocracy would employ such passé open methodology....Beatings are done in secret police holding cells after arbitrary arrest after a discreet midnight visit by black-clad, machine gun toting paramilitary state ninjas is the standard in the G8 nations now for dealing with individuals who say troubling things out of protocol.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at January 9, 2008 6:36 PM

If those kids now fear retribution for crime, they will have learned a lesson that may keep them out of jail for life and add years to their lives as well.

I see nothing wrong with severe deterrents for crime among the very young. That is the best time to teach them the lesson. Once they grow up or rather I should say, get big and older it is too late.

You don't do kids a favor by kissing their asses and not teaching them what is important.

Posted by: John West at January 9, 2008 6:38 PM

I was aware of their age, and coddling kids with a brain- well just look at most of Ontario.

Posted by: Mugs at January 9, 2008 6:44 PM

Just...Damn. Almost makes me want to vote Liberal. I'd like to see more of that over on this side of the pond.

Posted by: Sean at January 9, 2008 6:49 PM

This Ruby thing is like the Afghan prisoner abuse issue the Liberals are always talking about.

But not fake.

And involving little kids.

And the Liberal MPs are personally handing them over to be beaten.

Posted by: Rik at January 9, 2008 6:50 PM

By the time we get an in depth account from the lips of ravishing Ruby the sorry event will be well sanitized. Any bets?

Posted by: Liz J at January 9, 2008 6:53 PM

Nuance .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 9, 2008 7:00 PM

I do not like Ruby Dhalla and that her "people" handed the two kids responsible for stealing her purse over to the Punjab Police reeks of hypocrisy when one considers her own support of Canada's excessively lenient (liberal) judicial process.

Posted by: Brad at January 9, 2008 7:02 PM

Ruby has to learn that you endorse the beatings in your native language, and condemn them in English -- just like Yasser Arafat did when he switched between Arabic and English when he would say:

"You da bomb!"

Posted by: Bob is your ant at January 9, 2008 7:08 PM

Ass kicking?

Wasn't Kinsella the guy who "kicks ass in Canadian politics?". Now its Ruby "kicks ass in Indian politics."

Film at 11.

Ruby's in some shit from hell, that's for sure.

Posted by: Homely Simpson at January 9, 2008 7:14 PM

Funny but the punnishment she cheered, at first, would be more properly applied to the thieves in HER party who helped themselves to the PUBLIC purse back here in Canada.

I know we are all tired of this subject...

Posted by: eastern paul at January 9, 2008 7:17 PM

Desperation is what desperation does. I'm all for applying appropriate punishment but let's not lose sight of what was a violent abuse of power on two small kids that may never have known a full belly or warm soft bed.

Do hearts shrink so quickly in people once Christmas is done? Kids need to be corrected for doing bad but that correction should never cause injury. Would any Canadian parent accept such a beating on their kids if they were caught in a similar predicament?

Mike Duffy should be deeply ashamed if he did hand over those kids and watched the beating without trying to intervene. The dirt from this incident will stick with Ruby Dhalla much longer than her purse!

Posted by: Martin B. at January 9, 2008 7:20 PM

Well, isn't that extraordinary? It always comes as a surprise when lefties approve of this sort of treatment when THEY are the victim of a crime, but decry the same treatment when it is meted out to criminals that THEY aren't the victims of. Yes very interesting, but hardly surprising; no one ever could credit them with having principles, or those of convenience, as in this case, that couldn't be discarded when it suits them.

Posted by: Kai Wolf at January 9, 2008 7:27 PM

did you happen to see the screen crawler when she was talking about the beating ?

"Obama beats Clinton"

Wonder if he enjoyed it and did he have to tie her up first to give her some degree of satisfaction as well ?

Posted by: Fred at January 9, 2008 7:30 PM

I wonder if this duplicious, hate filled, prevaricator understands the hypocrisy of her position in India with what she and the Liberals have been accusing Harper of doing with the Taliban in Afganistan. More limosine Liberalsim. Why can't Canadians see the Liberals for the power hunger hacks that they are?

Posted by: jckirlan at January 9, 2008 7:41 PM

Is that like ..... Ironic .....?

Posted by: OMMAG at January 9, 2008 7:48 PM

I like Ruby!
Can we finally get to the long awaited beatings for liberals that steal?
Is there a stick big enough?

Posted by: richfisher at January 9, 2008 8:17 PM

Sad situation period. Anyone trying to make political hay out of this is just wrong. As much as I think Ms. Dhalla is a Liberal hack I do not believe she would condone two children being beaten. If she does then she is fair game.
Anyone that compares this to corporal punishment is a moron.

Posted by: Paul at January 9, 2008 8:18 PM

Saw the clip on CTV. Ruby didn't seem too concerned that these kids may have been beaten by the police. Ruby might have served everyone better by going to see the kids once they were apprehended and explain to them that what they did was wrong, especially in the case of the 5 year old boy. The police could have handled the situation with perhaps a swat on the kids back side, but it sounds like this is just a case of child abuse, and another liberal elite looking the other way because it served her purpose.

Posted by: sg at January 9, 2008 8:25 PM

Is the rumour true that Ruby herself even kicked the boys? ;)

Posted by: real conservative at January 9, 2008 8:41 PM

Massive news coverage, topic of conversation, much playing of tear jerker music, because police in a country other than Canada dealt with child criminals as they always do. It's none of my damn business.

Interesting to note that there's less global coverage over the honour killings, gang rapes, throat slitting or a variety of other party favours employed by some of the enlightened Religion of Peace cult.

Posted by: Pat at January 9, 2008 8:42 PM

The beatings were probably the standard punishment given to waifs caught stealing. Likely nothing worse than what they got from mama or papa for getting caught too.

Your not going to send them to a hell hole that is a 3rd world prison.

That would leave giving them a stern talking too. That didn't work to well the Saddam.

Perhaps the police should have given the hugs and cookies, ruffled their hair and sent them on their way with a newfound respect for the police and the law.

The fact the Liberal MP is wrapped up in this is irrelevant.

Posted by: dkjones at January 9, 2008 9:03 PM

If liberals are into this kind of kinky stuff behind our backs (cause they would never stand for this over ere right?), then wait for the shyte kicking coming your way from the CPC in the next election.

Posted by: real conservative at January 9, 2008 9:12 PM

People who approve the severe beating of children of this age are an embarassment to themselves, this forum and worse yet no better than the Liberal MP who approved of the beatings.

Posted by: claude at January 9, 2008 9:23 PM

Dhalla's position as Lib child care critic adds a note of sad absurdity.

Also notable is the MSM's flagrant misrepresentation of the story and total failure to report or comment on the Indian video.

I wonder what the "story" would have been had it involved a rural male Conservative MP from western Canada?

Posted by: Bart F. at January 9, 2008 9:44 PM

Funny headline at the Globe (via Canadian Press):
"Liberal MP condemns treatment of alleged purse snatchers" -- no mention of the original "hope they learned their lesson" stuff.

Posted by: LindaL at January 9, 2008 10:58 PM

apparently a much smaller punishment then the average liberal MP that stole the purse of the canadian taxpayer thru adscam.


liberals just might be the sickest folks on earth.

Posted by: cal2 at January 9, 2008 11:23 PM

Leaavee her aloooone! *sob* *sob* *weep* Why can't we all get a Gucci? *sob* *sob*

Rubyfan Sniveling

Posted by: syncrodox at January 10, 2008 12:12 AM

OK, so I lay a lickin' on some kids to stay in Ruby's good graces, but what perks to I get from her for killing some ragamuffin?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2008 12:25 AM

claude. i'm not liberal in any sense of the word, but whacking 9 and 5year olds is over the top. i guess they don't have parents they could be turned over to. liberal idiots.

Posted by: old white guy at January 10, 2008 7:26 AM

Probably the worst punishment the children will get will be to live out their lives in abject poverty in the Punjab..

Remember the old saw,'nice legs, shame about the face'?

In regards to Ruby, Insert screechy, annoying voice anywhere you see fit..

Posted by: kursk at January 10, 2008 8:02 AM

India media:

...Ruby Dhalla, said:"I can't comment on police action. I hope the children have learnt a lesson from this incident. She further added:....

http://timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=5365


Maybe prior to her next trip Ms. Dhalla should be required to get a little cross-cultural training with respect to street children in India:

What about the authorities?
Ironically, street children are often at greatest risk of violence from those that are responsible to protect them – the police and other authorities. Police often beat, harass, sexually assault and even torture street children. They may beat children for their money or demand payment for protection, to avoid false charges, or for release from custody. They may seek out girls to demand sex. For many street children,assaults and thefts by the police are a routine part of their lives. Some are even killed by police. Very rarely are those responsible brought to justice....

http://www.streetchildren.org.uk/faq/

Posted by: JM at January 10, 2008 8:25 AM

The MSM will bury this story on page 6 tomorrow then it will be gone.

After all - it isn't like she called those children "dogs".........

Posted by: Albertagirl at January 10, 2008 8:37 AM

Well, it is Ironic that one of the biggest spewers of vitriol,who also happens to be Liberal child care critic, had her purse snatched by children.

She must be an expert in the field of child care, much like the venerable "me stop pucks guy", Drone Dryden. She will be giving the Indian authorities advice on what to do for the young boys, how to deal with them and how they should be cared for. Hey, maybe she'll contribute to their welfare.

The ravishing Ruby will fill us all in with her flowing verbosity when she returns. The Media will all be salivating to hear her STORY.

Posted by: Liz J at January 10, 2008 8:38 AM

The cover-up spin has been on cbc/ctv this a.m.Big interview with the poor victim (Ruby) on ctv.."I love children"..'it's an outrage'(did she borrow that one from ralph?),plans for her to go and meet with the poor kids,and 'I just want to give them a hug'..I for one,have always found Dhalla to be an abrasive female clone of another perpetually outraged Mark Holland.

Posted by: Sammy at January 10, 2008 8:54 AM

Right Sammy.
We will soon be seeing photos of Dhalla playing the Madonna, hugging the children.
Get ready to barf.

Posted by: Liz J at January 10, 2008 9:02 AM

You can sure tell that the communist broooadcasting(newman lol)company is still liberal.Still nothing on cbc about it.

Posted by: Ralph in the east at January 10, 2008 9:13 AM

You can sure tell that the communist broooadcasting(newman lol)company is still liberal.Still nothing on cbc about it.

Posted by: Ralph in the east at January 10, 2008 9:13 AM

cbc has some coverage now..interview with reporter in India,that 'claims' the negative reporting is coming from a 'tabloid type paper'..absolves Ruby,gives the impression it was all overblown and twisted.Wonder how long the cbc had to hunt to find a sympathetic Indian journalist to put the proper spin on this.

Posted by: Sammy at January 10, 2008 10:17 AM

Dr. Dhalla gives advice to Punjab government re abuse of married women. Single women? Children?
...-

Punjab Government Urged to Enforce Strict Laws to Tackle Domestic Violence
A Canadian lawmaker has asked the Punjab Government to introduce stringent laws to prevent the abuse of married women, as many cases of this nature are reported by those who migrate to Canada.
Ruby Dhalla, the Member of Parliament for Brampton, told a Non-resident Indian (NRI) seminar held here that laws needed to be strict to prevent fraud marriages.
“From Punjab, many girls go to Canada. They face lots of problems, including abuse and violence. So, I will request the Punjab Government to look into the issue of fraudulent marriages," Dhalla said.
Many Indians migrate to Canada annually, a majority of them from Punjab.
According to a 2005 United Nations Population Fund report, over two-thirds of the married women in India, in the age group of 15 and 49, are victims of domestic violence. ...-
http://tinyurl.com/2c79u7 (medindia)

Posted by: maz2 at January 10, 2008 10:36 AM


seems to have no kids of her own and is the owner of what CBCpravda considers the most dirty of institutions " a for profit health clinic"


http://www.rubydhalla.ca/2006/index.htm

Posted by: cal2 at January 10, 2008 11:28 AM

I disagree with the posters that cheer on the actions of the police. No one should be beaten like that, especially a 5 and 9 year old.
I do support the use of caning. Singapore uses it with a doctor on hand to monitor. I'd have no problem with that being used on 14 year old car thieves.

Posted by: softtalk at January 10, 2008 11:41 AM

Times Now is guilty of the most irresponsible journalism possible.

The first interview you conducted with Ms. Dhalla happened when she had no knowledge of the treatement of these children. Her comments only reflected a response to the incident of the purse being snatched.

For the second interview, Ms. Dhalla was visibly shaken and unequivocally in condemnation of the police brutality.

Yet, Times never makes this distinction, and only when commentators on Canadian television clear up this fact do we as viewers get an accurate view of the events.

This is sensational reporting at its worst.

Posted by: Jonathan Ross at January 10, 2008 1:06 PM

I know an Indian from India who told me that all Indians steal in India, it is just the way it is. I know this is a general statement, but maybe this is what these children see. I personally would have kicked those police men's butts, if I was able. It just makes you realize that people are really different.

I do not think this MP knew the children had been beaten at the time of her first comment, but I have a funny idea she might have known they wouldn't have just gotten a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: Joanne at January 10, 2008 2:09 PM

I have a hundred carbon credits bet on these kids being brought to Canada and given citizenship, health care, education, and access to job opportunities. This would be the only fair thing to do, because it is our fault these kids were beaten. And, this would create jobs for social workers, street nurses, and other caring professions.

Posted by: Fenris Badwulf at January 10, 2008 3:17 PM

Of course the kid glove treatment by the media comes as no surprise, as Ruby is:

1) A woman (can't criticize her, we want more women in politics!)
2) A person of colour (can't criticize her, that would be racist! Gasp!)
3) Young and hot
4) A Liberal

Oops...but Rona Ambrose wasn't treated so well as the Environment Minister by the media was she? Scratch 1 and 3.

Gurmant Grewal wasn't given the benefit of the doubt against Tim Murphy, an old stodgy white guy (but a Liberal). Scratch 2

It appears that being Liberal is in fact the key important attribute.

Posted by: john g at January 10, 2008 4:14 PM

This exposes the damn hippocrasy of these liberals who talk about human rights for Terrorists but handover little kids to be beaten up brutally. And what a pity that you Canadians can not even take Ruby to task because of her color. In not too distant future (probably less than 50 years) all the western nations (and civilization) as we know today will cease to exist because of this mentality of "political correctness" at all costs. I can say this without worrying about "political correctness" because I am a man of color and I am not a Canadian. Wake up, Save your great nation from these liberals before it is too late.

Posted by: nemani at January 11, 2008 11:05 PM
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