December 21, 2007

The Final Frontier Of Canadian Investigative Journalism

The "street address".

Posted by Kate at December 21, 2007 8:21 PM

Does this mean that the average postie is more astute than an investigative journalist?

Posted by: wallyj at December 21, 2007 9:02 PM

"Does this mean that the average postie is more astute than an investigative journalist?"

No, it means that all posties are more astute than a Canadian journalist.

Posted by: JanPieterszoonCoen at December 21, 2007 9:20 PM

Couldn't they have just used MapQuest?

Posted by: Hunter at December 21, 2007 9:29 PM

the libranos would have found the place if there had been some brown envelopes stuffed with hundreds...pathetic

Posted by: stubby at December 21, 2007 9:36 PM

What?The address wasn't in frog?

Posted by: Justthinkin at December 21, 2007 9:44 PM

You guys are way too hard on the media. Didn't you catch the fact that there was inches of snow all over the streets, in cities, in Canada!?

The world is a much different place post Y2Koyoto and that sock puppet Steven Harper, with the aid of GWB, managed to create a "snowstorm" in an effort to thwart the efforts of our finest media watchdogs.

The fact that most of the MSM are Chihuahuas rather than Huskies in no way reflects on their abilities during "freak" snowstorms.

After all, all dogs were created equal.


Posted by: syncrodox at December 21, 2007 9:58 PM

The Final Frontier?

I thought that was space. Oh yeah the MSM still can't figure out melting ice caps on Mars aren't the result of excessive Martian SUV traffic.

One of those planetary traffic jams due to a stalled saucer no doubt. The sun spot storm obviously messed up their GPS and downloadable MAPQuest by the massive EMP.

You know there is an explanation for everything.

But St. Nick can make it to every kids house in on e night.

What is the matter with the MSM?

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 21, 2007 10:32 PM

Hans....didn't you know that GWB secretly went to Mars and started a nuclear power plant that is killing the Martian ozone and melting the icecaps? Oh.And Santa uses Westjet to get around,Ho Ho Ho

Posted by: Justthinkin at December 21, 2007 11:05 PM

Route des Trois Singes

Posted by: Cal at December 21, 2007 11:51 PM

Canada's typical "investigative journalist" couldn't find his/her ass with both hands.

Posted by: a different Bob at December 21, 2007 11:59 PM

Reports out of Ottawa suggest that the press conference was scheduled at . :-)

Posted by: Eugene at December 22, 2007 12:12 AM

Reports out of Ottawa suggest that the press conference was scheduled at 1 Infinite Loop. :-)

Posted by: Eugene at December 22, 2007 12:13 AM

Who on earth wrote that thing? It sure as h--- wasn't a MAN. No man would admit to not being able to find his way around. A map? What's a map?
That's a wimp - female or limp-wristed. But, a wimp.

Posted by: gellen at December 22, 2007 12:16 AM

I believe the problem was that the warehouse was WEST of Ottawa. Definetly virgin territory for the MSM.

Posted by: wallyj at December 22, 2007 12:46 AM

Press Gallery is heading down Lonely Street.

Anyone who strays in any other direction will be reassigned by the CBC controlled PPG - ask Don Martin!

Posted by: guido at December 22, 2007 12:48 AM

My favourite part of this story still has to be where the CBC scrub actually blames Harper for daring to give a talk about product safety at a warehouse instead of a nice warm hotel lobby, seriously believing that Harper likes giving press conferences (about positive news, no less) in hidden places where no reporter would ever find it. The concept of announcing legislation for safe toys at a Salvation Army warehouse having a good backdrop was clearly a secondary benefit to the coverup.

Posted by: Feynman & Coulter's Love Child at December 22, 2007 2:21 AM

Peter Mansbridge calls Canadians who are on the web, "diehards".
Yup, Pete's Dec 13th opening remarks on his 'At Issue' panel in Victoria;

" ... blah blah in front of a live audience blah blah seen on The National blah blah 'AND FOR THOSE DIEHARDS' it will also be screened on our web site, cbc dot blah. ..."

Why would he call us Diehards ?

Because some are too stuborn to watch TV tube-propaganda ?

Because, yes, some are sourcing all their news information on the web, but Pete thinks they will dutifully come back to his place someday ?

Because only a Diehard would put-up with a computer when it is so easy to just sit back and watch TV --- and be TOLD how to think ?

Oh journos, journos. And you wonder why we mock you when you can't even find your way around a city. How would you ever survive in the other 95% of Canada that doesn't have street signs ? Or heaven forbid --- The Arctic ? that you claim to know so much about.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 22, 2007 2:21 AM

The irony of Mansbridge calling web users die hard is sweet.

It apparently hasn't yet occurred to him that he is the Luddite. He is one who is manning the sinking ship.

Somewhere in between the hand-helds, the lap-tops, the X-boxes, the desktops, satellite and web radio there is someone watching sports on TV, but not much else.

There are still some old farts who can't get HEP to those new gadgets, but they are dying off fast.

Peter Mansbridge may win the distinction of retiring as Canada's last national anchorman, But that will only happen if Count Floyd over at CTV fails to keep the balance of whatever meds that has kept him 'apparently' alive up to this point in time.

Posted by: John West at December 22, 2007 3:28 AM

Dick Cheney's weather machine thwarts another media investigation!
I can't wit until they get the volcano machine perfected!

Posted by: Stan at December 22, 2007 7:58 AM

MSM/CanWest/OttawaCitizen's Constipated Investigative Journalism, aka Don't Confuse Me With The Facts. ...-

Magazine's apology averts Islamic protest
CanWest News Service
By Ezra Levant on December 22, 2007 12:17 AM |
For nearly four years I've been blogging on the Western Standard site. Now that the magazine has stopped publishing its print edition, and Matthew Johnston has bought the Standard's online assets, it makes sense to start my own blog. ...-

Posted by: maz2 at December 22, 2007 7:59 AM

Feynman and Coulter's Love Machine: I found your linked-to post distressing and unempathetic. I suggest you open your hearts and listen to what's really being said by our OPG reporters... Breathe:

"Never mind the huge snow storm that socked in Ottawa and most of central Canada over the weekend, *that* was not going to stop the prime minister from making a holiday announcement at the place of his choosing..."

Why should he choose the place? Doen't that seem a bit stubborn on Harper's part? Why wouldn't he make his announcement instead from the high arctic, where Peter Mansbridge was already broadcasting? See what I mean? If he was talking about climate change? Right?

Why would Mr. Harper opt for an "early" press conference in an "old Salvation Army warehouse" in an "industrial mall (!) that most reporters had never been anywhere near, let alone with a PM?"

See what I mean?

"Taxis couldnt find it, reporters were stuck in snow," and "satellite trucks were found kilometres away looking for the country's prime minister."

What kind of a nation do we want to be?

Posted by: Libby Raoul at December 22, 2007 8:53 AM

...Taxis couldn't find it...

That's because they're all driven by doctors, engineers, scientists from third-world countries.

So at least we're constantly told.

Posted by: JM at December 22, 2007 9:50 AM

ron in kelowna: Why would he call us Diehards? Because some are too stuborn to watch TV tube-propaganda? Because, yes, some are sourcing all their news information on the web, but Pete thinks they will dutifully come back to his place someday? Because only a Diehard would put-up with a computer when it is so easy to just sit back and watch TV --- and be TOLD how to think?

So if it's all "propaganda," ron, why did you watch the At Issue episode at all? Whether on the TV or the computer, it was the same CBC program, same CBC content.

Like most SDAers, you like to bitch and moan about the sorry state of the MSM, but the fact is, mainstream news outlets are where you and most bloggers (Kate included) still turn for fodder. The relationship of dependency continues to run MSM >>> blogs, not the other way around.

Posted by: Emerson at December 22, 2007 10:19 AM


I suppose you see yourself as a doer, for whom the batback "why don't you do something about it then?" would be convincing. Fair dinkum, I suppose.

Myself, I have Kate & Co. pegged as a kind of free-lance ombudsperson unit. For that type, calling attention to mistakes is doing something - calling attention to them. Granted that Kate is opinionated, but the lassitude of the in-house ombudstaff in the typical MSM organization has opened up a huge gap in the area for the opinionated and diligent, if not brave.

(Not that I'm bashing ombudscritters. They're in the same despised slot occupied by compliance officers in brokerage firms, proofreaders in publishing firms, and - yes - fact-checkers in the MSM.)

I hope this explanation helps in figuring this place out.

Of course, the MSM-critics are easy to cast as 'parasitic' by MSM employees, executives and supporters. If this particlular characterization begins to bite around here, there'll be more citizen-journalists in the blog world.

And Kate may link to them (if they're good and relevant to her own goals.)

Posted by: Daniel M. Ryan at December 22, 2007 12:05 PM


The MSM has most of the human and technical resources to report what they consider news. For the most part boggers don't have TV trucks and camera crews. It appears from this and other blogs like it, that main stream media views are scutinzed throgh the use of email or by referring to other non MSM outlets that share the bloggers point of view. We don't have the luxury of a "Fox" type media outlet, that openly admits that have a bias when reporting what they consider to be newsworthy.I think what you decribe as bitching and moaning is really a desire to have another large media outlet that serves us the news from the right instead of always from the left.

Posted by: sg at December 22, 2007 12:19 PM

Sheila Fraser audits OUR money that is in gov't hands. May save our econommy.

Kate audits OUR news that is in the media's hands. May save our democracy.

Oh, BTW, other than lightly monitoring, I have not watched an At-Issue set-up set in years. Typical how a moonbat would assume Canadians just have to get their "information" from the paid hacks.

"paid hacks" ?

Mike Duffy's words not mine.(scroll Michael Harris interviews Mike Duffy Tuesday, Dec 18. Starting about the 7 min mark, The Duff tells Canadians what the CBC and Mansbridge are really up to)

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 22, 2007 1:35 PM

Canadian Investigative Reporters NOT. If CBC wanted to investigate a case of Bribery that cost Canadian investors BILLIONS they had/have NORTEL!
Goggle "US Senate investigation of Nortel" 1990's

It was obvious to this American that Nortel was Toast but something was lost in the Canadian translation.

Posted by: Slap Shot at December 23, 2007 12:41 PM