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December 14, 2007

I Smell A Human Rights Complaint Coming On

Dr. Elmasry, call your office....


Michelle Malkin;

The person who posted it claims: “I don’t know what happened here. But this happened on my Air Canada plane ride to London, England in December 6th, 2007 from Toronto…My partner and I decided we should videotape this in the interest of sharing the experience we went through on this plane with those interested.”

(Emphasis mine.)

Posted by Kate at December 14, 2007 11:58 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me at all if the People's Truth Tribunal got involved on this one.

But it looks like a simple panic attack. I seriously don't think this guy had sinister motives, but it's clearly symptomatic of something larger that he chose to say "F*^&ing white people" Thank You liberals, international socialsits and MSM scum!

Imagine a world where when suffering a panic attack people would yell, "the God of Abraham and Isaac will smite you!" or "f*&^ing brown people" What do you suppose the reaction would be then, hmmm?

Racist
White Supremacist
Islamphobe
Right wing Christian freak
and on.....
and on...

Posted by: Doug at December 14, 2007 12:19 PM

Might have been something as simple as being on a long haul flight with Air Canada as your service provider.Been there,wanted to do that!

Posted by: tedf at December 14, 2007 12:23 PM

Someone prevent him from praying?

The guys holding him are doing a very professional job, were they just his seat mates I wonder or did they step in?

well I suppose we are not to pretend interest or concern if no one told us this in the media.

Posted by: BL@KBIRD at December 14, 2007 12:26 PM

Flight from Hell!!!

Posted by: Rick at December 14, 2007 12:26 PM

I remember my first beer in a pressurized cabin.

Posted by: John at December 14, 2007 12:31 PM

It seemed to me this guy was being deported and the two beefy fellas with him are RCMP officers...possible?

Posted by: George at December 14, 2007 12:43 PM

It's quite obviously abuse, why the second time the East Asian gentleman freed himself from his restraints, the plastic cuffs actually scratched the back of his hand!

Posted by: Zip at December 14, 2007 12:49 PM

Yep, seems like the guy was just freaking out. Nothing to see here...seriously...as far as I can tell.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 14, 2007 12:51 PM

I think you may have hit on a very important point John. Perhaps this is why these Muzzies are always so excitable. They don't drink. I bet if this guy had had a couple of doubles before boarding, he would not have freaked out like he did.Perhaps the Muslim world should take up drinking. It may mellow them out.

Posted by: rattfuc at December 14, 2007 12:52 PM

What is the issue or problem here? Perhaps the captain of the plane refused to fly East? If that is the case, his actions were understandable. Who knows...

ALLA AKUBAR. ULULULUULULULU....

Posted by: Orlin at December 14, 2007 12:53 PM

If you were the gal in front of this guy, what would you think? Stewardess, would you hand me a pillow and blanket please?

Posted by: Orlin at December 14, 2007 12:56 PM

tedf...yeah,blame aircanada for this nutbar's actions,and you felt like doing the same?Just two words for you,west jet.

Posted by: h.ryan. at December 14, 2007 12:58 PM

Real professional Bl@kbird, they managed to screw up the zip tie cuffs. I'd have dumped him in the aisle and sat on the sumbich. Easier, and SAFER. He's mental. He won't get tired, but you will.

Seems to be a standard mental illness freak-out though. Buddy didn't take his medicine and The Voices started up again. Reading too much into the ravings of a guy having a freak-out isn't too useful.

Tell you what though, having a couple hits of tranquilizer on board might be. Imagine a frickin' 7 hour flight, taking turns sitting on this clown. Gawd.

Posted by: The Phantom at December 14, 2007 1:01 PM

He is a perfect reason why flight attendants should have tazers.

As I watched that loon screaming those obscenities all I wanted to do was hit him on the head with a stick until he was silent.

Those men who held him deserve a medal.

Posted by: John West at December 14, 2007 1:04 PM

you could always gag him with a ham sandwich to keep the noise level down

Posted by: Fred at December 14, 2007 1:04 PM

"Those men who held him deserve a medal."

Couldn't agree more. Acted very professional, even if it wasn't their job to do so. I wonder if they are in fact RCMP officers, where did the plastic cuffs come from?

Posted by: allan at December 14, 2007 1:20 PM

Perhaps he had recently quit smoking...like the stewardess on that commercial shouting "the seatbelt sign is ON!"

LOL

Posted by: Sarge at December 14, 2007 1:22 PM

Did I hear him yell, "F***ing infidel"?

Posted by: Boudicae at December 14, 2007 1:31 PM

These are exactly the idiotic comments that make immigrants fear the conservative party.

Posted by: Aaron at December 14, 2007 1:35 PM

God bless airline crews, they did an admirable job in a tight space under the circumstances. My impression is the guy has a mental health problem.

I think plastic cuffs, alan, are standard equipment on an airplane. They need to get metal ones. And injectible benzos, if they are lucky enough to have an authorizing physician as a passenger on board I assume they could use them.

Posted by: penny at December 14, 2007 1:36 PM

Aaron...if this is the type of immigrant coming to canada,then I hope the cons get a majority.Talk about an idiot,no mirrors where you are?

Posted by: h.ryan. at December 14, 2007 1:41 PM

“I bet if this guy had had a couple of doubles before boarding, he would not have freaked out like he did.”

Not a good idea for those that don’t usually drink. I was on a flight to Abu Dhabi and a couple of Indian men across the aisle decided to take advantage of the free drinks and got a bit tipsy. For their own good the stewardesses refused to give them more but still served the “white” passengers. They went a bit like this guy, screaming obscenities and accusing the stewardesses of being prejudice against Indians. I said calm down guys, if passport control sees that you’re Muslim and smell alcohol you’ll be sent straight to prison. Fortunately they finally nodded off and were quiet and contrite by the time we landed.

Do you know what Air Canada’s motto is? “We’re Not Happy Until Your Not Happy”. Thank goodness for Westjet.

Posted by: Cal at December 14, 2007 1:43 PM

Must've forgot his meds!! I had a dog that went after a porcupine once. When we tried to contain him, he went wild. My dad used a rag soaked with starting fluid (AKA Ether, highly explosive!) to try and calm him.
One slight problem. "Old Blue" never woke up.

Posted by: Billy Jack at December 14, 2007 1:48 PM

Definitely looks like a deportation and those two guys definitely look like Immigration of RCMP officers.

Posted by: Lemon at December 14, 2007 1:54 PM

Cal...I've worked a million flights where alcohol was consumed at an alarming rate,from business men to hells angels,and they did not act like this.Your opinion is just that,an opinion,like asses,every body has one.I agree,thank god for west jet,that way I won't have to deal with your sorry ass on one of my flights.

Posted by: h.ryan. at December 14, 2007 1:55 PM

Anyone who has flown Air Canada can understand why the guy wants someone to shoot him.

Posted by: Mark Bourrie at December 14, 2007 1:57 PM

George,
I like the way you think and I will comfort myself with your idea. A jihad weasel was being returned to the worlds safe haven for jihadi weasels, Britain. And the beefy guys and the plastic cuffs? Gotta be RCMP taking out the garbage.

Posted by: BL@KBIRD at December 14, 2007 2:03 PM

I've worked these flights and the utter disdain these men have for the female crew members when asked to do something is very evident.I've had flight attendants ask me to deal with these people because they were too scared to,how's that for a safe work place?What I think,nothing a coffee pot to the head would not fix.

Posted by: h.ryan. at December 14, 2007 2:12 PM

I am a huge fan of WestJet...actually will be flying with them in a couple of hours. But anyone here slamming Air Canada's service hasn't flown them in a while. Their service level has risen to very close to on par with WestJet's It's to the point were there is very little difference in in-flight service and I now chose my domestic airline based on schedule and price.

As for the video, to me it looks like the fellow in the seat on the other side of "rage boy" is wearing a AC flight attendant uniform/badge. Both gentlemen showed tremendous constraint and I applaud them for it.

Posted by: John at December 14, 2007 2:16 PM

Very similar to a flight from Europe on Air Canada in the fall of 2002. Just a year after you know what. This time it was a white guy, not taking his meds, fasting, and returning from a religious pilgrimage. Up and attacking a black man and spouting religious mumbo-jumbo. Of the 200 passengers, just me and two other males jumped up to subdue this guy. Eight burly cops took him off the plane. The plane's crew was nowhere in sight until we had proned the guy out on the seats. Still waiting to hear from Air Canada.

Posted by: DoubtingThomas at December 14, 2007 2:19 PM

Come on guys, no need to be nasty.

Looks like the poor fellow is mentally ill or was having some kind of episode. I am sure that I caught the gray haired fellow saying near the beginning of the tape that they were taking him home to his mother.

The attendants were very patient and understanding and did an admirable job. I imagine it must have been very frightening for fellow passengers,though.

Posted by: Jan at December 14, 2007 2:24 PM

Mentally ill my eye. Part of a culture of hatred more likely.

Posted by: Jim O'Brien at December 14, 2007 2:26 PM

"I Smell a Human Rights Complaint .."

I guess your olfactory organ has been sharpened by the foul odors coming from your blog, especially the comments.

Posted by: Auntie Em at December 14, 2007 2:26 PM

Well, h.ryan, I thought that CPC could use an extra vote last time I checked. Do you disagree?

Posted by: Aaron at December 14, 2007 2:29 PM

Auntie Em: May I suggest a trip over to rabble or perhaps KOS... but all those comments are fine aren't they because leftists have the right to say anything.

Posted by: Jim O'Brien at December 14, 2007 2:32 PM

Aaron...you talking about polls,if so,I would not read too much into that,to me they are designed to illicit only one answer,a little off topic though.

Posted by: h.ryan. at December 14, 2007 2:36 PM

Repeated clinical trials have shown that the most effective laxative known to man is hearing the words "Allahu Akhbar!!" (1:32 in the clip) being screamed on a trans-oceanic flight.

"F***ing infidel! I don't care!!" (3:07) rates a close second.

Posted by: EBD at December 14, 2007 3:09 PM

Kate's become quite the Troll Magnet eh??

Posted by: OMMAG at December 14, 2007 3:14 PM

You will notice that the guy on the far side has his arm around the perp's neck and one of his hands is clasping the other.

He is in position for a sleeper hold. Unlike a bar chokehold wherein the inside bone of the forearm is directly applied to the throat, the sleeper hold ultimately is about blood being kept from the brain while the throat passage remains free for breathing.

The way this works today is that an officer will apply it from a number of positions and keep the hold loose enough that it acts as a sort of "choke collar". The officer won't automatically choke the guy out, but will keep the inside bone of his forearm on one side of the neck and the bicep on the other side of the neck if he can do so. That way the more the perp squirms around, the more he chokes himself out without his ability to breathe being compromised. They could have removed him from the chair in the same way they take reluctant drivers out of the seats of their cars. But they decided it would be better for all concerned if they kept him where he was.

The sleeper hold has been controversial ever since some guy got choked out in LA and died. This doesn't normally happen. The problem is with a whole lot of huge perps, perps on drugs that give them tremendous strength, etc, "choking" them out is about the only thing you can do.

But down in LA, Darryl Gates or someone made the remark that the black guy who was "choked" out didn't have a normal physique and caused an uproar in civil rights circles. And so the sleeper hold came under huge contention. The civil rights crowd claimed that blacks were being unfairly targeted and demeaned by reference to their "different physiques".

I remember reading about some cops stopped by an elderly woman who pleaded with them to speak with her son who simply wouldn't get his act together.

The cops reluctantly agreed and proceded to the woman's home expecting to give some young lad Citizenship 101, with the possibility of stern chastisement held in reserve.

They went into the young lad's bedroom, their eyes adjusting to the dark, when the girl cop accidentally tripped over a 250-lb dumbbell. A huge mass underneath the covers on the bed suddenly rose to a sitting position and looked at them.

The young lad, recently released from Fulsome Prison where he was one of the best enforcers that the Aryan Brotherhood ever had, screamed, "Cops! I hate cops!"

He uncoiled himself from the bed and launched himself at the 5-foot-4 girl cop, and a melee ensured with the cops trying to subdue the young lad.

The cops, who of course are not supposed to use sleeper holds because of the one character who did not respond normally, finally resorted to hitting the guy with his own dumbbell because the use of nightsticks (taught at the academy) went unnoticed by the enforcer.

The moral of this story is that sometimes a sleeper type chokehold is about the only thing that works.

Posted by: Greg in Dallas at December 14, 2007 3:23 PM

Its kind of sobering to think that on your worst day, (and we all have them) somebody's going to be there with a phone or a camera and we'll be on youtube forever.

Posted by: cynical joe at December 14, 2007 3:56 PM

Folsom.

Posted by: iowavette at December 14, 2007 4:06 PM

Yeah.

I'm thinking deportation for this one.

He was quite the vocal one but no different from some of the "citizens" we get in our cells, especially the hbd ones. The booze can make them go on and on and on yelling obscenities and calling names. It's really quite tedious.

Mind you, the woman in front of him seemed to take it in stride. She kept on reading her book.


MT

Posted by: MistahTibbs at December 14, 2007 4:45 PM

"I bet if this guy had had a couple of doubles before boarding, he would not have freaked out like he did." …Not a good idea for those that don’t usually drink.

“h.ryan.:
“Cal...I've worked a million flights where alcohol was consumed at an alarming rate,from business men to hells angels,and they did not act like this.”

I agree that all asses can have an opinion but some asses sure struggle with reading comprehension. The Indians that I shared a flight with did act “a bit like that” so it was my direct observation of the affects that alcohol can have on non drinkers, not an opinion.
Do you know what another one of Air Canada’s mottos is ?“Service With a Sneer”
Customer "service" as displayed by you has helped make Air Canada what it is today.

Thanks for getting all that ass in such a short diatribe. I got a fleeting glimpse of sitting in Mark Steyn’s chair.

Posted by: Cal at December 14, 2007 4:51 PM

iowavette, you're right, Fulsom.

You'll notice that the guy closest to the camera has the perp's arm pinned down so if he goes toward the aisle, he won't be able to. If he lunges toward the camera, the man holding him in check with a neck restraint will keep him immobilized.

If they decide to roll him out onto the floor, the guy holding his arm will retain it to keep him from performing aggressive actions. Then they would have him down on his stomach so that they can cuff him with his hands behind his back.

And of course, had they wanted to choke him out they would have been able to do so. All in all, they had a pretty good handle on this guy.

Had they been all alone with him out of the public eye, it's possible they would have used other tactics.

Posted by: Greg in Dallas at December 14, 2007 5:07 PM

For God's sake, I must be off my meds!! Folsom.

Posted by: Greg in Dallas at December 14, 2007 5:09 PM

Obviously this video is a fake. It didn't repeat with the French version!

Posted by: Dave2 at December 14, 2007 5:20 PM

I think Kate got PWN3D!!!11!eleven!! with this one. Too many of the other passengers on the flight appear too calm. I smell a produced for you tube video.

Posted by: Boss429 at December 14, 2007 5:57 PM

Boss429

I th1nk y3w j15t pwn3d us3i4....

Posted by: BL@KBIRD at December 14, 2007 6:08 PM

00ps u53l4

t3h p1m4

Posted by: BL@KBIRD at December 14, 2007 6:10 PM

Aaron, what comments are you concerned about? I think I saw one objectionable comment...the rest were saying the guy was just "off his meds". Please be more specific with your complaints/concerns.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 14, 2007 6:21 PM

I'm sorry and apologize for my statements above if this guy is mentally ill -- as I expect upon further examination...

Posted by: Orlin at December 14, 2007 6:47 PM

I experienced something similar on a non-stop flight from Beijing to Toronto in August 2007. The man sitting next to me across the aisle (very drunk) took offense with me when he asked if I was a Canadian citizen. I replied "Yes, 2nd generation in fact". The entire rest of the flight he proceeded to taunt me, 2 inches from my face - then started kicking me and grabbing my arms. AC personnel intervened, advising me I could have the Captain arrest the man. I declined. The man was a Sikh, and I feared his community would firebomb my house. China seemed so civilized in comparison! Welcome home!

Posted by: 2ndGen at December 14, 2007 6:50 PM

Boss429 - take you meds would ya!

Posted by: Orlin at December 14, 2007 6:54 PM

BL@KBIRD - ibid !

Posted by: Orlin at December 14, 2007 6:55 PM

Awww, nobody's biting on this particular fishing expedition, Kate. Better luck next time!

Posted by: fushi at December 14, 2007 6:58 PM

Sorry BL@KBIRD and Boss429, only I, the great Infidel, am qualified to denigrate these individuals.

Posted by: Orlin at December 14, 2007 6:59 PM

Well you arrogant white bastards!!!

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at December 14, 2007 7:08 PM

I appreciate your feedback Bl@kbird, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon!

Posted by: Boss429 at December 14, 2007 7:18 PM

You don't have to catch a flight to Britain to get this- just catch a TTC bus, (the 'better way'), to work- in Toronto.
Does the TTC care?- nope! (Were it not for the offensive third-world dogmeat, (turning civilized people off public transpo)- they would not be able to meet the demand!
(Welcome to 'multi-culti).

Posted by: sheik yerbootie at December 14, 2007 7:52 PM

I think it's a stretch to suggest he's some sort of religious nutjob terrorist-wannabe...the man clearly has mental health issues, and it looks as if the people sitting next to him may be escorts. They can clearly be heard saying 'you're going to your mother' so they must know something. As for shouts of f*****g white people, allahu akbar etc. etc., allow me to point out his agitated state (in case no one noticed)? A white Christian having a panic attack would yell out 'Jesus help me' or the like, and any slurs he throws around could just easily be contributed to his apparent mental health issues. We should have pity on a man like this, not attack him.

Posted by: Griff at December 14, 2007 8:11 PM

I'd have jumped on him off the top rope,applied a step over toe hold and finished him off with a boston crab.

Posted by: ron obvious at December 14, 2007 8:15 PM

These are exactly the idiotic comments that make immigrants fear the conservative party.

Posted by: Aaron at December 14, 2007 1:35 PM


say wot!!!!!!!!!

this immigrant would never vote LIEberal

Posted by: GYM at December 14, 2007 8:17 PM

STUPID FxxKING WHTE ASSHxxLS...YOU ALL SHOUD BE ROUNDED UP AN SHOT!!

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at December 14, 2007 8:18 PM

I'd have all the pity in the world for him... after I got off the plane. While I'm ON the plane I want this guy face down on the floor, hog tied and a big friggin' chunk of duct tape over his pie hole. In the galley, if possible. Don't want him hurt, just out of action.

Any of you bleeding hearts (Aaron, Aunty Em et al) have any appreciation for how astoundingly stressful this was for the other passengers? Ever think there might be kids on this plane? Kids don't need to see that.

Posted by: The Phantom at December 14, 2007 8:22 PM

WL Mac, you XXed out the wrong word dude. Should be AXXHOLES.

Oh, wait... ~:D

Posted by: The Phantom at December 14, 2007 8:25 PM

You are right Phantom, I almost added as much to my post.

Not sure I could be very compassionate if I were sitting next to the guy, but I suspect that the "shirts" with him were there for a reason. Looking at the tape, it seemed to me that they knew him and were aware of his disability(?).

I don't think they would have been so gentle if it had been a case of somebody that presented a real danger to other passengers.

Posted by: Jan at December 14, 2007 8:40 PM

...where's the YVR Security and RCMP with Tasers when you need them...

Posted by: tomax7 at December 14, 2007 8:51 PM

Cal...sorry,I guess I am just a sensitive trolley dolly,fact is,I don't even like the company I work for,but love the job,once again,please accept my humble apology.

Posted by: h.ryan. at December 14, 2007 9:08 PM

I may be wrong, but I assume that when Kate says, "I smell a human rights complaint coming on" she was suggesting that the CIC might take offence, resulting in a HRC complaint against the filmaker, and Air Canada. After all, a man who looks like an Indian or Pakistani and who yells "Allahu Akhbar!!"could be a Muslim. And this video shows him in a bad light. Whatever the reason for his behaviour, the simple fact that the video is being shown on "YouTube" could be contorted as yet another "racist" insult to Islam. And, in the reasoning of the CIC and the HRC, just the possibility that this could be perceived by some Muslims as discrimination on the basis of religion, is grounds enough for a complaint.

While most commenting on the video have taken the tack that the man must have been having a panic attack or some other such mental breakdown, I was rather dismayed at the few who jumped to the type of conclusions that just feed fuel to the fire. If just one white person, through his/her comments wishes to justify Elmasry, then these less than savoury comments are the way to go. If, on the other hand, we wish to disabuse Muslims of the notion that any real and justifiable problems we have with some of them (terrorism, honour killings, misogyny) are just "religious bigotry" then I suggest a personal policy of "engage thy brain before opening thy mouth!"

Posted by: JBS at December 14, 2007 9:32 PM

Judging by the comments and demeanor of the 2 guys restraining the nutter,this sure looks to me like a standard,commercial flight,escorted deportation operation.

He probably was a low priority,non-violent, voluntary removal,which is why he wasn't in handcuffs,but of course when he went berserkers they had to slap on the white flex-cuffs you can see dangling from his wrists in the video.


Posted by: mr.g at December 14, 2007 9:56 PM

I would like to see the 9 Justices of the SCOC, and numerous Human Rights Tribunal adjudicators on this flight and ask them in the heat of the moment about the rights and freedoms of this passenger and the way he is acting. His mental illness or no mental illness involved, does he have the right to terrorize the flight. Does the well being of the rest of the passengers fit in to the equation anywhere. The answers would be interesting indeed.

mid island mike

Posted by: mike at December 14, 2007 10:12 PM

Wow Kate, you are a sad sad woman. You deserve no better than to be told how pathetic you are. With a personality that is as repulsive as dung and as abrasive as 40 grit sandpaper it should come as no surprise you are single at your age, but then again, that's probably why you're as angry as you are at the world.

You spare no expense in vilifying the Canadian Islamic community and Islam as a whole. Insinuating that this man is likely to file a human rights complaint because of his faith is nothing but racist. Kate McMillan, you are a biggot and nothing more, a lowly piece of white angry trash who's contribution to Canadian society amounts to nill.

Posted by: Jen at December 14, 2007 11:38 PM

Jen

If you looked into Islam yourself, you would not make such a pathetic mess on the floor with a very credible offering of your incredible ignorance of Islam. Learn before you let your lips dribble drivel.

Posted by: BL@KBIRD at December 15, 2007 12:02 AM

Duct tape ,anyone signed sealed delivered

Posted by: Peter ,not that one at December 15, 2007 12:20 AM

"it should come as no surprise you are single at your age, but then again, that's probably why you're as angry as you are at the world.

You spare no expense in vilifying the Canadian Islamic community and Islam as a whole. Insinuating that this man is likely to file a human rights complaint because of his faith is nothing but racist."

Yeah Kate what she said, who cares if muslim leaders are trying to stifle free speech! Who cares if a Canadian muslim leader once said that every Israeli over 18 is a legitimate target for terrorist attacks! What's wrong with that?!
/sarc off

For the record I once met a perfectly horrible woman who was married. I also have a really nice relative who is single. Personal attacks like that from someone anonymous against someone public are pretty tacky. For all we know Jen, you are a fat ugly creepy guy in a loveless marriage. I guess though, since you are a lefty you can say anything you like and be morally superior about it.

Posted by: soup at December 15, 2007 12:28 AM

And one more thing, Islam is not a race.

Posted by: soup at December 15, 2007 12:31 AM

Hey Jen ,Duct tape too spare,please read what you rite,,Can you actually say insinuate and likeley,into someting racist.Oh I see ya don't like whites neither ,isn't that a tad racist,So sorry Kate "Why don't you F##k off into the twilite

Posted by: peter ,not that one at December 15, 2007 12:40 AM

Good point soup...

Can I have the attention of all the apologist leftists/socialists viewing these words for a moment.....Islam/Muslims are not a "RACE". You sound like the intellectually lazy tards you are when you open your blovation with this. Can I see a show of hands among the tards that understand now?

Posted by: BL@KBIRD at December 15, 2007 1:03 AM

JBS
"we wish to disabuse Muslims": I think you have things in the wrong order.

Cheers

Posted by: J.M. Heinrichs at December 15, 2007 2:27 AM

Jen might at least have made sure that his/her ad hominem insults were spelled correctly!

This person wrote that Kate is a ". . . a biggot [bigot] and nothing more, a lowly piece of white angry trash who's [whose] contribution to Canadian society amounts to nill [nil]."

Smarten up, Jen.

For my part, I find Kate highly intelligent, honest, and insightful (attractive too!): a woman of resolve and get-up-and-go, who's providing a vital service to the citizens of this benighted country. (For Jen: “who’s” in the previous sentence stands for "who is”. It’s a contraction. “Who’s” can also stand for “who has”.)

Although our lefty Canadian elites, especially those in the media, pay lip service to tolerance and diversity, they honour no such thing. Kate has provided a very welcome forum, where issues, such as Islam’s negative impact on our society, which are stifled, spun, and/or censored by the MSM, can now see the light of day.

Bit by bit, blogs like Kate's are giving ALL Canadians a chance to have their voices heard. For a person who apparently approves of diversity and tolerance, I’d have thought someone like Jen would be pleased to see such attributes in action.

Psst, Jen, “tolerance and diversity” does not mean just making nice: by definition, it must embrace dissent as well. Our education system and MSM have brainwashed generations of kids with the “make nice” model: dishonest and counter productive—destructive, even—to the nth degree. In fact, Jen seems to be a perfect example of the totalitarian, brainwashed tendencies the elites hope to instil in the unwary. What small minded hypocrites—all of them. Thank God Kate provides some relief!

Posted by: lookout at December 15, 2007 9:37 AM

"Wow Kate, you are a sad sad woman..."

Actually, Jen, it's you who are truly sad. Misinformed. Ignorant. Self-righteous.

And tapdancing into dhimmitude.

Islam is the religion taking offense at Miss Piggy coffee mugs. And cartoons. And ice cream maker logos swirled into shapes that "look like Allah". And declare war on and blow up 3000 year-old statues that bear human likeness. And believes that gang-raped women deserve 200 lashes. And a woman should be jailed, lashed or put to death for allowing a teddy bear to be named "mohammed". Or that saudi girls in a private school should perish in a fire because they aren't permitted to leave the burning building without wearing their veils. That adulterers and homosexuals should be stoned. Or that a 16-year old girl should be strangled by her father for not wearing islamic dress.

Or other atrocities committed in the name of "allah", here.

These are the facts, idiot. All of your ad homs and insulting conservatives change nothing: islam is the problem, not the west's increasing awareness of it.

In the 1980's the west was fearful of WWIII, to be fought between the US & the Russians. As it turns out, this was not a concern because neither side believed "winning" that war was worth the cost of victory (that & Reagan's pushing the Soviets into total bankruptcy).

However, WWIII can be thought of as a more insidious, elusive war: it is a war of western culture against islam, which is spreading across the globe like a cancer, leaving agony and bodies in its wake. The MSM and liberals alike are working assiduously to ensure we lose this war; incidents depicting islam in a negative light are either glossed over entirely or whitewashed (ref. Aqsa Parvez' recent murder).

To win a war of culture, first you must actually want to win; islam has the will to win, but it's not appearing we do. It's not bigotry to proclaim western culture superior to that of the islamic world: just follow the immigration. That's why you have hundreds of thousands from the middle east uprooting to the west, and nobody on the return flights. All PC hogwash aside, even the muslims know where the culture is inferior and where the opportunities lie.

People like jen are helping us lose the battle, with their reflexive PC slurs of bigotry against people who honestly object to the tactics of the enemy. This war must also be won on the home front by the citizens of the west; islam understands this and exploits our own weakness (e.g. HRC complaint against Macleans Mag & Mark Steyn, & others).

Before jen et al predictably accuse me of bigotry and racism, I will qualify I have nothing against muslims who immigrate to this country to live as Canadians and leave their religous baggage behind. This is a challenge, considering the damaging liberal doctrine of multiculturalism that provides no incentive for immigrants to assimilate. However, where are all those "moderate muslims" in decrying the atrocities committed in the name of their religion? Maybe they are in England, where 36% of muslims polled believed Britain should be ruled by shariah law, eh? Tarek Fatah notwithstanding, they seem to be missing in action here in Canada.

It's high time this country once again took an active interest into who they are freely admit into its boundaries, and start turfing those who don't deserve the freedoms and opportunities it offers. Perhaps the Khadrs should be first on the next plane outbound.

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Posted by: mhb at December 15, 2007 12:54 PM

Well said, mhb! Thanks.

Posted by: lookout at December 15, 2007 4:04 PM

Gee, he asked for someone to "Shoot me." I would have thought Air Canada could have at least obliged....I'm certain a few passengers would have been thankful for the peace and quiet.


Jen, no need to shoot the messenger, and I bet you wouldn't say those words to Kate's face.

Posted by: Joanne at December 15, 2007 4:07 PM

Sounds to me like the guy was having an unhinged-moonbat moment.

Maybe he's the new "Islamic Rage Boy"? Ok, to see what I mean:

http://www.snappedshot.com/archives/976-Islamic-Rage-Boy-Parody-Roundup.html

Nah... something tells me he's no fundamentalist Muslim. Ever seen a devout Islamist man with an earring in his left ear? I think he's just a moonbat, and likely a "gay" one at that, although he didn't seem to enjoy it when the guy with the beard put his arm around him...

He'd make a great addition to the photojournalistic site exposing the most extreme fits of moonbattery, zombietime.com...

Anyway, I wouldn't be shocked if the CAIR-Can stands up for him...

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at December 15, 2007 4:17 PM

Lookout,
You beat me to it and said it far better than I ever could, but thanks for Your accurate potrayal of Kate!

Posted by: Paul J Johnson at December 15, 2007 4:28 PM

My intent to join in with the general condemnation of this man has been cut short.

The very end of the showing, was of a young woman. The sadness and comiseration for the unhappy situation shown on her face, will live with me long after all else.

Posted by: Peter at December 15, 2007 7:21 PM

Jen, have you been seeing clearly through that Burka? Now go off to your prayer and thank your lucky stars you have the freedom to spout off venom without cause. There are places, no doubt you've heard of, where dames like you would be stoned to death for having an opinion on anything.

At this point, I would much prefer to keep KH Schreiber and deport a real waste of skin named Elmasry.

Posted by: Liz J at December 16, 2007 4:41 PM

...dirka dirka

Time for Team America!

Posted by: tomax7 at December 16, 2007 9:31 PM

mhb: It's high time this country once again took an active interest into who they are freely admit into its boundaries

...unfortunately it is too late my friend. It would take at least two generations to undo the mess, but that is if the generation changes. Right now the demographics don't support it. With retiring baby boomers, or going off the map so to speak, the younger generation will have to fill the gap. Now tell me, which younger generation is willing to do service jobs like Wendy's, Hotel clerks, or become Retirement Homecare personnel?

We are doomed as a society unless the youth today take responsibility for their parents (white and others) mistakes.


Posted by: tomax7 at December 16, 2007 9:37 PM
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