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December 13, 2007

Mulroney Testimony

I note that a few of you are discussing the Mulroney testimony in the reader tips thread. I'm too busy today to follow it, but you can use this thread for links or on topic discussion if you wish.

From the comments;

"Lapierre stated, while on with CTV's Mike Duffy, that the Liberal MPs on the Ethics Committee were given today's questions to ask by the CBC."

If true, this merits an investigation, followed by a housecleaning.

Stephen Taylor now has an official CPC release on the allegation.

Update:

Posted by Kate at December 13, 2007 2:11 PM
Comments

Jean Lapierre just spouted on CTV with Duffy that the CBC wrote the questions that the Liberal's asked about the spectrum auction.

Well wouldnt that be interesting if it were true.

Posted by: Stephen at December 13, 2007 2:16 PM

You mean, the CBC in bed with liberals? Say it aint so!

Posted by: allan at December 13, 2007 2:19 PM

"The Chin That Roared" just about made Szabo Swallow his tongue by bringing transcripts of Schreibers testimony fro other hearings and trials.

How stupid are these Liberals?

Apparently stupid enough to allow Brian Mulroney to publicly show them for complete asses!

Posted by: OMMAG at December 13, 2007 2:20 PM

lol watched the whole thing brian kicked ass

Posted by: Ralph in the east at December 13, 2007 2:26 PM

The Lefties asked for it,hope PMSH carries this even further. I've just figured out how leftards think. Their ideas are like lightning.One brilliant flash of light for about 3 milliseconds,then nothing. Unfortunately it has all ready struck somewhere,and destroyed something, usually the fabric of a country.

Posted by: Justthinkin at December 13, 2007 2:26 PM

"Jean Lapierre just spouted on CTV with Duffy that the CBC wrote the questions that the Liberal's asked about the spectrum auction."

If that's true then heads must roll at the CBC. And a full public enquiry should be welcomed by the LP.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 13, 2007 2:33 PM

Pat Martin's performance was one of the most disgusting things I'd ever seen.

I loved how Brian wasn't taking any of the committee's crap. And I don't even like Brian that much. But the ongoing smear job against him is absolutely disgusting.

Posted by: Reid at December 13, 2007 2:34 PM

Poor old Mike Duffy looked like he had sat on a pineapple, he could see how just plain dumb the liberals looked.

Posted by: Stan at December 13, 2007 2:34 PM

Well,I already blew my wad on the reader's tips thread,but I would like to repeat some of my message here.
I am still in awe over the entrenched anti-right attitude of the CBC.
I was quite surprised though to hear the CTV,in comparison,allow Duffy and others to speak out against what has been basically a sham and to call a future formal inquiry an absolute waste of time.
It's too bad a mostly leftist media in this country will protect many many Canadians from truly seeing how Schreiber used both the media and the opposition parties to keep himself out of German prisons.And,how eagerly they fell for it in a sad attempt to smear the current conservative government.

Schreiber has failed to supply ANYTHING NEW of any substance.

Period.

Posted by: teddy at December 13, 2007 2:37 PM

"Jean Lapierre just spouted on CTV with Duffy that the CBC wrote the questions that the Liberal's asked about the spectrum auction."

If that's true then heads must roll at the CBC. And a full public enquiry should be welcomed by the LP.


Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 13, 2007 2:33 PM
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if it were true. Considering CBC journalists think it's their duty to be anonymous police informants responsible for smearing Mulroney. I think the CBC might be a little bit afraid of what might come out in a public enquiry.

Posted by: Reid at December 13, 2007 2:38 PM

Kinsella quote of the day....

"...So I don't have time to watch Brian Mulroney's performance. But, seeing as how no one has ever given me, or anyone else I know, $300,000 in cash....."

.....or anyone he knows......

Riiiiight Warren, what ever you say.

Posted by: Eskimo at December 13, 2007 2:41 PM

"Schreiber has failed to supply ANYTHING NEW of any substance."

The fact remains that Mulroney was pocketing cash from a rather shadey character. So far as I'm concerned this validates my flipping my support from the PCs over to Reform back in the day.

Mulroney was better than Trudeau, but he was still a greasy weasel. I also notice that as quick as he is to sue others for any suggestions of impropriety they cast in his direction, he hasn't laid a lawyerly finger on Stevie Cameron over "On The Take". Is this because he suspects he won't win?

Posted by: Sean at December 13, 2007 2:41 PM

What in tarnation is the CBC doing when they are interfering or butting in with the "work" of the House of Commons Ethics Comittee?
Do the Liberals work for the CBC or vice versa?

Posted by: Mr Perfect at December 13, 2007 2:45 PM

haven't watched it , won't watch it, don't like brian, but too f'n bad. the man is right.

Posted by: old white guy at December 13, 2007 2:49 PM

Sean,

As I stated on the other thread...

Maybe if Mulroney told them he wrote a receipt on a cocktail napkin,as the LPC accepted from Chretien,the opposition parties would be satisfied.

As much as I have never liked Mulroney,he admitted it he receved,it was used for purposes after his PMship and he paid his taxes on it.

Now,let's get the perjurous Schreiber's ass to Germany to face the charges there.

Posted by: teddy at December 13, 2007 2:55 PM

Yeah I heard the sound bite on how public interest has totally failed to gel and now has totally dropped out....some Aper media poll of some kind found most Canadians don't give a crap and only 14% wanted to go ahead with a full inquest...no doubt who the hard core 14% is....probably the entire LPC hope bubble faithful.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at December 13, 2007 2:57 PM


The worst that came out today in my view was that Mulroney was trying to skirt paying income tax ( dealing in cash) but got caught by the short and curlies by a master of deceit.

Who, of course is currently making complete assholes of every Canadian courtesy of our immigration and justice system and specially the opposition members of the committee.

All to to avoid extradition?

Meanwhile the Libs , ND's and Blocheads are on a fishing expedition by bringing Bernier ( and the current government) into this mix that has nothing to do with Mulroney and Scheiber deal.

Why isn't there some action on the Schreiber perjury issue ( sworn testimony by Schreiber in a Canadian court) that Mulroney pointed out to the committee?

You would think that would ring somone's bell.

And notice, no one from MSM even mentions that in their post committee scrums.


Posted by: Joe Molnar at December 13, 2007 3:00 PM

liberal pablo rodiguiz trying to link BM to the current bill on communications
BM slams him, But the Witch Hunt continues.

Posted by: bryanr at December 13, 2007 3:00 PM

Did anyone else notice how Mulroney completely eviscerated Stevie Cameron's (On the Take) reputation. In his opening statement he only alluded to the person whose whole reason for existence seemed to be to destroy his reputation. Later in the questioning, although I did not hear the question, he appeared to be forced to give her name. I can not think of anyone more deserving of having her reputation besmirched, although that cannot possibilly match the damage she wilfully, and undeservedly inflicted on Mulroney. It is satisfying to see her on the taking end rather than dishing it out.

Posted by: Bob Wood at December 13, 2007 3:28 PM

The ultimate truth, as gleaned from a few months of visiting SDA: if someone is conservative, they can never, ever, ever, EVER do wrong.

Ever. End of story.

Good luck, folks...

Posted by: JohnnyRingo at December 13, 2007 3:32 PM

If that is true about the CBC, we need to get to the bottom of it. I call for a Public Inquiry!!!

Posted by: Joanne (TB) at December 13, 2007 3:35 PM

That's the thing JohnnyRingo - if ever a conservative were to do something wrong, it would negate the moral highground these people claim to speak from, and all of existence would instantly cease and collapse.

That, and everyones children would immediately enter into homosexual polygamous marriages overnight.

I'm always amazed at how these folks can go on and on about the "liberal bias" in the media. I've never seen a shred of proof to this effect - it's jsut easier to blame the media than to admit that a conservatives' man-crush might be guilty of something.

Posted by: Throbbin at December 13, 2007 3:41 PM

"The worst that came out today in my view was that Mulroney was trying to skirt paying income tax"

Dunno Joe...Guys in Muldoom's income bracket can defer for up to 5 years...and he DID claim it and pay on it later.

Just the same I'm with Sean...whether this was a indiscretion or not, we all know who does business in personal cash payments this large...Libranos, anyone in the parasitic "insider" network that lobby and score untended contracts to Fed S&S, the Mob and of course drug dealers. Muldoom was the reason I went to Reform as well.

However, I think the "chin" was one of the slicker polis...he may have been on the take but he left no tracks to follow north of the 49th.....what the Liberals chose to stick him with is pure BS and they know it...no one in the know in the Librano camp wants anyone REALLY looking too hard at old federal administrations because there is a lot of Librano graft to be found with just some light scratching.

I think this is why Libranos like Dion always suspect the worst of Harper and are constantly making innuendo of graft and malfeasance...it's because they recognize it so easily...hell it's the core librano competency....simple case of psychological "projection" ;-)

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at December 13, 2007 3:46 PM

Eskimo 2:41pm, nailed it !!

Kinsella blogged he doesn't know anyone who accepted $300k in cash ..... Ya ??

How about $299,999 ?
Or, say $300,001 ?
Maybe, 60 million ? Ahh, but that's different, eh ?

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 13, 2007 3:47 PM

JohnnyRingo - You are wrong. I direct you here:

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/007612.html#comments

To quote a more astute observer:

Spot on post. Too bad it didn't come from Kate herself, but what the heck, it's the issue that matters, and not the messenger...

DND's communications strategy has been surprisingly spot in, especially in the wake of the Somalia affair. One of the few good things that came out of that was a move to open up the communications process to the soldier on the ground. No longer did a reporter and their subject - a soldier or an officer - have to dilly dally needlessly over layers of approval and time-wasting bureaucratic excercises in turf-protection. I've always been impressed by the higher-ups at DND who turfed out their old communications strategy and opened up their new one. Want proof of how effective it's been? I'd say Blatchford's book is evidence of how good it's been working.

Harper's PMO and the PCO have been dictating communications policy and information sharing for far too long on far too many policy files.

Again, kudos for SDA - or, more importantly, for Damian - for taking the Harper PMO to task on this one.
Posted by: JohnnyRingo at December 11, 2007 5:06 PM

Oops, was that you?

Posted by: Jan at December 13, 2007 3:49 PM

Let's pay close attention to whether the perjury issue Mulroney clearly pointed out to the committee will even register with any MSM journalist.

What was it again - two sworn (contradictory) statements in Canadian courtrooms?

Posted by: Joe Molnar at December 13, 2007 3:51 PM

Throbbin, have you been in a coma for the past say, 30 years? There have been surveys taken and books written about the prevelance of media bias towards what is today's version of liberalism. I have absolutely no problem with a journalist having a leftist viewpoint. Just don't try to pass one's self off as unbias. Everyone has a bent one way or the other towards any subject. Admit the fact and move on.

Posted by: Farmerboy at December 13, 2007 3:54 PM

"if ever a conservative were to do something wrong"
They get voted down to 2 seats in parliament, as happened in 1993.
But liberals on the other hand still manage to get 103 seats after dozens of scandals
http://scandal.coldwave.net/
Proving liberal supporters are sheep.

Posted by: alan at December 13, 2007 3:55 PM

Stevie Cameron should be investigated. Unless she was very careful and did not actually defame Mulroney (hard to believe with a book named "On The Take"), Mulroney should have sued her.

In any event, I have heard reports that she was actually a confidential informant (on what, she was not involved in affair, just wrote really silly book, which CBC stupidly used and got us sued). If there is any validity to claims she was informant, then we need to get to bottom of her conduct, that maybe she went too far, acting in unethical manner with clear conflict of interest. Does anybody have more details on this allegation?

As for wrongdoing, Throbbin et al, you may find out when an actual scandal happens, not the virtualfaux scandals of war criminals, guilt by association. Just what wrongdoing are you referring to? Please enlighten us.

Posted by: Shamrock at December 13, 2007 3:57 PM

Interesting that in his testimony, Mulroney refers to the CBC/Fifth Estate as "leaders" and "enablers" of the attacks and smears on him.

He says this in the second round of questioning from Tory MP Del Mastro.

Posted by: OttRob at December 13, 2007 3:59 PM

Allan: Not sheep - but people who have no problem with corruption as long as they can get some. Liberals belief nothing - all they want is power.

Posted by: Jim O'Brien at December 13, 2007 3:59 PM

Ringo,

You can be wrong if you are a conservative....the reaction is because for so long, snd msybe still today, others say you are wrong BECAUSE you are a conserative.

Mulroney may yet be proven to have done something wrong, but it just isnt there at this time.

And right now the Liberals and NDP (my god Neo conservative Pat? Come on, that is so not 1980's)
are trying desperately to play politics with someone they never got the chance to defeat electorally...oh well.

LEt the facts come out....right now Mr Schreiber is the one with the contradictory story and the Libs and NDP looked like they are making mountains out of molehills.

Thibault is convinced it was Thyssen money....just because it came from Thyssen, but Thyssen may have got that money from Norway, so does that make it Norwegian money?

Rodriguez is trying to say Mulroney is an unregistered lobbyist, as if anyone who gets a call from Pierre Karl wouldnt return it?

Martin is on a Neo con rant....what first year poli sci class did he just walk out of.

CoMartin was pretty good, Nadeau was pretty good...MBM is vulnerable because the records are gone. Vulnerable not in an absolute sense but vulnerable in that he cant prove or disporove things in a court, or the court of public opinion. It is 15 years old, there are no records and the only people willing to testify against Brian are....well nobody becasue Schrieber keeps saying Mulroney is innocent.

The RCMP couldnt prove this at the time and you'll never prove it now....sorry. And if you cant prove it, then we are left with opinions and if you are going to speak ill of someone then you better have more than your opinion.

Posted by: Stephen at December 13, 2007 4:01 PM

CTV.ca has a CP so-called news item all about Harper's broken promises being directly related to the Mulroney-shrieber circus.
Well of course...if they say so.

Notice no name attached to the CP piece.Who wrote it?
How convenient.

Posted by: bluetech at December 13, 2007 4:04 PM

The fact is,Mulroney came first,second,and third.
And End of that game.
Real lawyers must laugh at that system.
Hope that change it before they catch up with a real crook,cretien.

Posted by: Brian at December 13, 2007 4:10 PM

'I'm not calling you a liar, Mr. Mulroney, but I don't want anybody here to think that I believe you," New Democrat MP Pat Martin said dryly.'

Talk about weasel words

Posted by: Shamrock at December 13, 2007 4:20 PM

Wow, the trolls are weak these days, Kate. Maybe the usuals are all in Bali......

All I ever need to know about the permanent Liberal bias at the CBC is listening to 5 minutes of drive-by smears from the host of "The Hour", and the non-musical guests I have seen on that program: Dallaire and Chretien.

Good for Chin to face the music finally, and admit his mistake. He should have shown better judgement, like Lougheed did in banning the Alberta government from dealing with this crook.

Why anyone would take Schreiber at face value is beyond me. I hate these political witch hunts, and the unknown costs in pursuing them. Any criminality? Airbus? NO. It does show the sickness within the halls of power perpetuated by these vile lobbyists.

Posted by: Klondike Mike at December 13, 2007 4:21 PM

So can bloggers ask questions they leech less from the national coffers than the CBC does.


Posted by: dinosaur at December 13, 2007 4:22 PM

I hsve long lesrned to be wary of MBM, I still like him though.

His performance was generally excellent. Funny in parts and generally good natured.

Pat Martin showed his colours, he has MBM convicted already. Funny though he disavows schreiber as well. Nice of MBM to call Schreiber Martin's friend.

Martin was generally ill behaved....and to some respect so was Thibault. I thought Szabo was transparently not being a neutral chair....took interventions from the cons to get what amounted to basic decency in terms of answering questions, especially after he let Schrieber off the leash in his testimony he can hardly ask the accussed to be limited in time and scope.

As well, the spectrum stuff is absolutely off target. I would have been tempted to walk out, but best to stay. I am sure the committee in camera is going to have some hot words...1) about Martin being throughly disrespectful 2) About Szabo's neutrality, and competence, as chair. He came close to blowing it in my opinion.

I do want to know if the CBC and the Liberals were working together....unholy quite frankly for a media outlet and a political party to work together, even worse when it is the public broadcaster. Not ethical.

Oh and once again Warren K gets it wrong. Originally he fudged the rules to make it look like MP'd cant take any other income, when that was pointed out he has abandoned that....now he is one $300,000....well it wasnt at once and it was over time and it was a retainer for expenses AND fees....after seeing an estimate from a company like Warren's, lets call the firm Flowerpot to hide its real identity, to speak to the government on an issue. Think $8,000 for what would have been 6 weeks of elapsed time....they wouldnt hae done 6 weeks of work, this firm, called Flowerpot, that looked a lot like Warren's. So assume 2 weeks of out of 52 for vacation, which means for a year, not including incidentals, a firm called Flowerpot that looks a lot like Warrens would charge $64,000 a year before hard costs like flights etc.

So is it fair to imagine that a former prime minister could charge a higher relative perdiem and charge the expenses that get to $100,000...certainly.

Once again the facts get in the way of Warren's bluster, he is a spin master after all.

Now getting cash up front, no way, get 50% or 25% paid via cheque up front...pretty standard practice. So if Flowerpot, a firm that looks a lot like Warren's, expected an enagagement that would yield $100,000 over the year they would probably expect $25,000 to start, at least. Once again assuming the rates that a Flowerpot could command vs a MBM.

When you do the math $100,000 per year retainer isnt out of the realm....its the cash part that is the issue.

Too much Mulroney Derrangement Syndrome going around.

Posted by: Stephen at December 13, 2007 4:24 PM

Oh wow, someone - not even Kate! - wrote something about DND communications policy and Harper's PMO...fantastic, but it hardly compares to the legions here defending Mulroney!

Think about it: you're defending Mulroney for taking money from an arms dealer!

I just don't get that conservative thinking...

Posted by: JohnnyRingo at December 13, 2007 4:31 PM

Stephen said: "unholy quite frankly for a media outlet and a political party to work together"

I agree! Funny how the conservative SDA refuses to raise the issue of a conservative columnist (Sun Media's Paul Jackson) writing columns at the behest of Progressive Conservative Premier Ed Stelmach!!

Funny people, you conservatives...

Posted by: JohnnyRingo at December 13, 2007 4:34 PM

Ringo:

Yes, it's pretty clear you don't get conservative thinking...

Posted by: SomeGuyInOttawa at December 13, 2007 4:37 PM

Ringo - you are using my bandwidth for little more than criticism of your hostess.

Either stay on topic or keep your finger off the post button.

Posted by: Kate at December 13, 2007 4:39 PM

*
see, here's the thing...

i'd be the last person in the world to defend anyone
taking bags of cash from a greasy little turd like
schreiber... but doesn't brian mulroney deserve at
least the same sort of judicial process
as
willie pickton?

enough backdoor smears, folks... charge him with
whatever crimes you think you can prove... and
let him have his day in court.

*

Posted by: neo at December 13, 2007 4:39 PM

The ultimate truth, as gleaned from a few months of visiting SDA: if someone is conservative, they can never, ever, ever, EVER do wrong.

Ever. End of story.

Good luck, folks...
Posted by: JohnnyRingo at December 13, 2007 3:32 PM

True or not true?

Spot on post. Too bad it didn't come from Kate herself, but what the heck, it's the issue that matters, and not the messenger...

DND's communications strategy has been surprisingly spot in, especially in the wake of the Somalia affair. One of the few good things that came out of that was a move to open up the communications process to the soldier on the ground. No longer did a reporter and their subject - a soldier or an officer - have to dilly dally needlessly over layers of approval and time-wasting bureaucratic excercises in turf-protection. I've always been impressed by the higher-ups at DND who turfed out their old communications strategy and opened up their new one. Want proof of how effective it's been? I'd say Blatchford's book is evidence of how good it's been working.

Harper's PMO and the PCO have been dictating communications policy and information sharing for far too long on far too many policy files.

Again, kudos for SDA - or, more importantly, for Damian - for taking the Harper PMO to task on this one.
Posted by: JohnnyRingo at December 11, 2007 5:06 PM

True or not true? Can't be both. That is, unless you consider Harper's PMO to be something other than Conservative.

Posted by: Jan at December 13, 2007 4:42 PM

Johnny Ringo,

I have read your bleatings on this string.

You don't get thinking at all.

Posted by: John West at December 13, 2007 4:42 PM

Gosh, Ringo...didn't Schrieber say he gave money to the Liberals, too?

Think about it: you're defending the Liberals for taking money from an arms dealer! I just don't get that Liberal thinking...

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2007 4:42 PM

"get out of jail affidavit"

Now that is a sound bite

Posted by: Fred at December 13, 2007 4:44 PM

Johnny Ringo "if someone is conservative, they can never, ever, ever, EVER do wrong" -- what's the point of this absurd hyperbole? No one has made a comment to this effect, Mulroney did a good job of defending himself and that is generally what is being talked about here.

I agree with W.L. MacKenzie that the Liberal tendency to crawl around in the muck hoping to dig up dirt on the Conservatives is a case of psychological projection. I have always found that the first people to accuse others of lying are most often accomplished liars themselves.

Posted by: LindaL at December 13, 2007 4:55 PM

I think that today's testimony exposed the substantial lack of ethics on the part of the ethics committee itself. I was appalled when the question re Bernier and wireless was posed. This is completely out of bounds in terms of what the committee is supposed to be investigating. To use this committee as a political ploy for planting innuendos is totally unethical and smacks of a witch-hunt. What we have here is the Canadian version of the McCarthy trials. Why is Mr. Dhalliwal even on something called an "ethics" committee -- given his unsavoury behaviour in the Gormant Grewal (or whatever his name was) case? This whole investigation has turned into a circus. No private citizen (in this case, B. Mulroney)should be forced to discuss his private business deals and social relationships in public when it is increasingly clear that no laws were broken. I think that Harper would be fully justified in not proceeding with the full enquiry. This whole thing is a sham and the Parliamentarians involved should begin to examine their own ethical standards.

Posted by: LindaL at December 13, 2007 5:04 PM

The CPC has picked up the CBC/Liberal party collusion and is running with it...check out Stephen Taylor's blog.

Posted by: mecheng at December 13, 2007 5:05 PM

I wish the media were as interested in the HRDC scandal, where more that 1 BILLION dollars couldn't be accounted for.

Posted by: minuteman at December 13, 2007 5:07 PM

LindaL, don't forge Robert Thibault's disgraceful conduct. He is the lynchpin in the whole thing, he met ex parte with KHS and some think he is the impetus behind this entire smear campaign.

MSM has completely missed this one with not one question to him about his conduct here. To top it off, he didn't excuse himself from questions even though he is being sued for defamation by Mulroney, with strong chance of success.

When Thibault even mentions ethics, I want to gag. No problem, I predict this thing will backfire on Grits big time.

Anyway, to Canadians who view Mulroney suspiciously, ask yourself this question: will accusers make their smear outside privilege of HofC? How does that affect their credibility.

Canadians don't care, fully intend to re-elect Harper and Tories (possibly with majority); that's what drives Grits crazy. NDP and Bloc motives less clear, though I think they ultimately want to trap Grits. Why aren't they going after Thibault, though?

Posted by: Shamrock at December 13, 2007 5:23 PM

It's too bad a mostly leftist media in this country will protect many many Canadians from

Teddy, said it best, [ teddy at December 13, 2007 2:37 PM ]

[. . . ],** truly seeing how Schreiber used both the media and the opposition parties to keep himself out of German prisons.And,how eagerly they fell for it in a sad attempt to smear the current conservative government.

Schreiber has failed to supply ANYTHING NEW of any substance. Period. **
Posted by: teddy
================== Off to Berlin with Karl.

tinyurl.com/2bk58v

theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071213.
wmulroneymain1213/BNStory/National/home

Even the leftist Mop & Pail can not whip up much.= TG

Posted by: TG at December 13, 2007 5:32 PM

Thibault, Martin, and Szabo have to wait until a guy is well into his senior years to take him on. What a bunch of chickenshits. None of them would have the guts to take Mr Mulroney on during his prime. He'd have crushed them like the bugs they are.

Will they do the honourable thing and apologize and step down when they fail to prove a thing?

By the way - while many posters on this board are vehemently anti-CTV, if they had been paying attention to this they might have noticed that Duffy, Paula Todd, and Robert Fife have been very upfront about their disgust about the entire issue since the start. If they were once pre-disposed towards the Liberal party, I think the bloom has come off the rose.

The Libs in CTV are in to be found the producers chair, if the guests/experts they pick are any indication. (not counting Jane Tabor). In fact, Mike Duffy pretty much came out and called Tabor a Liberal mouthpiece a few days ago.

As for CBC, as long as Mansbridge is there, they'll be solidly Liberal.

Posted by: jimbo at December 13, 2007 5:32 PM

LindaL,
Further to your comments,I was to believe the only reason this commitee even exists was due to the supposed bombshell revelations Schreiber promised on the almost literal eve of his deportation after 8 yrs of fighting a losing battle.

Since he has not offered one significant point of any relevant substance,we know the only reason this has not already been closed is it's possibilities for further muckraking by the opposition.
If some people feel this is so crucial to be examined to death,fine,then I believe we are also obligated to further investigate Chretien and his dubious Shawinigate money dealings.

Then,in another 10 yrs,we can revisit Adscam and the HRDC scandal.

To those leftist footsoldiers who continue to infect this site...
We conservatives acted when we decimated the arrogant Mulroney/Campbell tories.
To the contrary,when the Chretien/Martin liberals were drowning in scandal and corruption,most ethically-challenged liberals tried to vote them right back in.
We conservatives can be proud of our actions.
The Puffin Party,on the other hand and years later,is still trying to hide it's huge piles of shit by trying to fabricating shit for their opponents.

Pretty pathetic,when you think about it.

Posted by: teddy at December 13, 2007 5:38 PM

Kate, looks like you're indirectly linked from NNW:

http://www.stephentaylor.ca/archives/000919.html

Link at top of NNW

Posted by: allan at December 13, 2007 6:02 PM

What did Mulroney say about the the Liberal constructed connection to Harper?

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 13, 2007 6:18 PM

Ringo,

Couple of differences

1) Columnist versus mainline news

2) Public versus privately funded

If Rex Murphy wrote the questions I would be less concerend, he is a columnist on the TV...as in opinion piece....although the subject funding is an issue. If from mainline CBC...over the line.

Oh and please provide a link to where this columnists put forward an article that Stelmach wrote....

Posted by: Stephen at December 13, 2007 6:39 PM

Ahh, come on. Not even the CBC and the LPC can be THAT unstintingly stupid........ Can they?

Posted by: Jim at December 13, 2007 6:49 PM

Whats missed in the CBC coverage/bias is the fact that they've been trotting out Harvey Cashore (who co-wrote the book with Agent Stevie Cameron) and Linden Macintyre as regular pundits / casual observers.

After realizing they've been duped by Schreiber to stay in the country, these hacks are on the air saying "well...schreiber got what he wanted" not mentioning the fact that their relentless witchhunt facilitated the whole sham for him to stay in the country.

Posted by: Brian Grenya at December 13, 2007 6:54 PM

My favorite description of the committee is that they are cowardly jackals nipping at the heels of the aging lion.

Turns out the aging lion is still king of the jungle.

Posted by: Brian Grenya at December 13, 2007 6:58 PM

Why can't Mulroney, as a private citizen, earn a living?

Idiot moonbats.

A far more important question is, with only five years spent in the private sector, how is it that Chretien retired a multi-millionaire? What was the extent of his dealings with Power Corp. while serving as an MP and PM?

And what about Martin's ownership of CSL? How did that come about when he was an MP on an MP's salary? And, more importantly, the shady dealings with CSL and legislation concerning that industry, when he was PM?

I truly hope Harper brings the hammer down, as he warned.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 13, 2007 6:58 PM

Piling on is poor form.

Don't feed the trolls.

/ back on topic/ Unless there is EVIDENCE to back the claims, this is a farce and should be ended.

Posted by: Jon at December 13, 2007 7:05 PM

CTV has cherry picked the sound bites to make Mulroney look bad. I watched the whole thing and except for a few instances Mulroney wiped the floor with the questioners.

Posted by: Stan at December 13, 2007 7:06 PM

I believe the CBC is in the early stages of 'death rattle' insofar as a taxpayer funded propaganda arm of Liberal governments is concerned.

Even to a casual observer of the Schreiber saga, it appears to have been driven by the biased CBC as a hatchet job on Mulroney rather than a balanced investigative piece.
If the Lapierre charge on Duffy's CTV is factual then CBC has to answer to the Canadian taxpayer as well.
Why are they pushing the Libs on the committtee to bring in the cellular spectrum issue?
It has no bearing on the Schreiber - Mulroney issue - none whatsoever.
Bloody McCarthyism engaged by the Libs and CBC.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at December 13, 2007 7:21 PM

If committee members asked questions that were provided by the CBC, I would say its more damning for the people asking the questions than it is for the CBC, after all, it is ultimately up to them to ask the question.

That said, it surely doesn't make the CBC look good and it speaks to an unhealthy relationship between the broadcaster and those who asked questions on its behalf.

Posted by: steve at December 13, 2007 7:32 PM

I think the real story here - if it's true - is the provision of questions by the CBC to the Liberals on the ethics committee, and the Liberals unethically using these same questions.

There should be a full public enquiry into this - did the CBC breach the public trust (i.e., is the accusation true)- and if so, have they done it before (breached the public trust)and for how long? What has been the impact of these CBC actions over time? Who within the CBC was responsible for these breaches of public trust?

Does the Liberal party somehow reward the CBC employees for these favours? (Anyone hear of the senate? GG jobs? Order of Canada?) Why would the CBC want the Liberals back in power? Self answering question.

We need a full enquiry into the CBC. Now.

Posted by: Neil at December 13, 2007 7:32 PM

Stan - my advice when you see discrepencies between full coverage and cherry picked reports is to call the local affiliate, and tell them there's little point in watching their news casts if you can't trust them to report the news.

They're more sensitive to viewer anger than the national desk. They have to sell the advertising.

Posted by: Kate at December 13, 2007 7:37 PM

Hang them ... out to dry of course :^)

What would be worse for these Comunist Broadcasters? Firing? Closing down?

I know, I know! Privatise them. Sell the CBC and its assets off to the highest bidders.

"The Friends of The CBC" could of course make a bid to buy it. Imagine, though, those stund and aston ished CBCers coming to terms with NOT TELLING THE COUNTRY WHAT TOP THINK and having to make an honest living fopr once. Hehehe.

Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at December 13, 2007 8:02 PM

On the subject of Mulroney's performance. I heard it on the radio and he gained respect.

Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at December 13, 2007 8:04 PM

This latest revelation will be buried under the following files:

- Hollandgate
- Dosanjgate
- BDCgate
- HRDCgate
- Aubergegate
- and, my personal favourite - Thibaultgate

Duffy says in video that this Lapierre made a defamatory comment. Is anybody suing Lapierre, or demanding retraction. No, they'll just ignore it and the good little press minions will let it go, lest they say something "defamatory."

Posted by: Shamrock at December 13, 2007 8:20 PM

This is collusion.

Proof positive that the CBC and the Liberal party of Canada are the same political and ideological entity.

Damning evidence.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 13, 2007 8:29 PM

"Stephen said: "unholy quite frankly for a media outlet and a political party to work together"

I agree! Funny how the conservative SDA refuses to raise the issue of a conservative columnist (Sun Media's Paul Jackson) writing columns at the behest of Progressive Conservative Premier Ed Stelmach!!

Funny people, you conservatives..."

Ringo;

The Jackson issue is a local story and not likely to be picked-up outside of Alberta. The (local) Conservative response you're looking for is here: http://no-libs.com/?p=2065

Posted by: Richard Evans at December 13, 2007 8:44 PM

Compared to the disrespectful behaviour of Chretien when he appeared before the Gomery Inquiry, including the mockery he made of Judge Gomery, Brian Mulroney and his family were a Class Act.

Mulroney is our former Prime Minister, far above the likes of Operatives like Schreiber, the Liberals newest hope to smear all Consevatives. They're the most desperate Opposition Party we've ever seen in the history of this Country. It's gone far beyond the pale or anything resembling reason.

Posted by: Liz J at December 13, 2007 8:47 PM

do you mean when Chretien took out and showed his balls.

stunning and in poor taste. small town cheap.

Posted by: cal2 at December 13, 2007 8:59 PM

Craig Oliver is now defending the libs and cbc on CTV (repeat broadcast).He has said and I am paraphrasing"if Mulroney did not want to be hounded by KHS and his 2 media allies,he should have come clean the first time". This implies that Mulroney lied before and the white knights of canadian journalism are doing their altruistic duty . This issue will probably die slowly on the vine. But you can write the cbc ombudsman at http://www.cbc.ca/ombudsman, also it might be interesting to find out the cost of the 5th estate's witchhunt. Cbc and ctv,'tabloids with a purpose,the unofficial opposition'.

Posted by: wallyj at December 13, 2007 9:02 PM

Ctv's The Verdict is covering today's inquistion. Fife and Macdonald are the guests.Should be worth watching. Also,remember the 'bombshell' when the monies went from 300K to 500K,now that it has gone from 300K to 225K,it is only a squib.

Posted by: wallyj at December 13, 2007 9:08 PM

Does anyone know why Mulroney has never sued Wench Stevie Cameron for her terrible castigation of him in her book "On The Take"?

Posted by: Liz J at December 13, 2007 9:13 PM

Lock the Ministry of Liberal Poo Hiding down and seize all their phone records, computers, and blackberrys.
Sweat some little $120,000 per, plus superpension, flunky coffee getter, until he spills his socialist guts all over his fav. Che shirt.

How dangerous is our little gulag becoming?

Posted by: richfisher at December 13, 2007 9:15 PM

I haven't read all the blogs on this topic but I wonder what our pal, Warren Kinsella, has to say about this situation. It is like the CBC has its big hand in the back of the collective Fiberals, manipulating them like a ventriliquist does his DUMBIES!!! Come on now Warren. We know you monitor this site. Lets have your two cents worth.

Posted by: a different Bob at December 13, 2007 9:19 PM

The money was "given" 14 years ago (14 years) for a business transaction and now Schreiber wants it back. He don't even know why he gave it!! Give me a break. This sleazey character doesn't want to go back to jail, especially in Germany!! Too bad. Next plane please... Ask him what he did with all the other dealings he had with "loose money" and not cheques. Someone else must be out there. In Russia, I know for a fact that this is how big companies purchase things - with suitcases of money - not cheques or credit cards - at least up until a few years ago. My brother was a purchasing agent there for a very large Canadian company. Dealing European style!!Thibault should go to jail with him. What was he doing interviewing Schreiber in jail anyway. The people of this country should wake up to see the permanent damage done to our country by the Liberals over the years and think before they ever vote for them again. They are so obviously crooked as well as the NDP who "DREAM" of power but will never get it -Federally. We had enough of them in Saskatchewan to do us a lifetime. For the 42 years I have lived here, our population has remained the same or LESS.

Posted by: Jane at December 13, 2007 9:29 PM

Wow! Anyone watching CBC's National with Peter Mansbridge? 4 panelists, all of who are attacking Mulroney's testimony, claiming all his testimony was inconsistent. They're in a studio with university students ... diversity of opinion is great, ain't it? ;-)

Posted by: Rick at December 13, 2007 9:44 PM

"Anyone watching CBC's National with Peter Mansbridge?"

Do you mean high school educated, former public address announcer at the Churchill, Manitoba public airport Peter Mansbridge?

No.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 13, 2007 9:56 PM

"Anyone watching CBC's National with Peter Mansbridge?"

You can make me pay for it but you can't make me watch it.

Posted by: Joe at December 13, 2007 10:03 PM

So the billion dollar question is: Does the government have the balls to privatize CBC?

I certainly hope they do.

Posted by: mark peters at December 13, 2007 10:11 PM

We can talk about the love-in between the Fiberals and the CBC but no one and I mean no one has a hate on for Conservatives (especially Stephen Harper) life Craig Oliver. This lightweight is just a riot to watch when he goes into a rant about Harper. What a pinhead!

Posted by: a different Bob at December 13, 2007 10:17 PM

.....the CBC surviving on viewers donating their own money ...... kinda like Liberals relying on their grassroot support .....

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 13, 2007 10:19 PM

..... for money , of course .....

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 13, 2007 10:21 PM

You do mean the nutroots, right Bill? :)

Posted by: mark peters at December 13, 2007 10:22 PM

Ya know...I'm starting to like Brian again!

Posted by: 'Biff at December 13, 2007 10:26 PM

Has anyone in these moronic liberal and ndpeers midst ever asked whose money Mulroney was given, was it Canadian taxpayer money like the stinking lieberals stole,, or was it only some dopey grease monkey of a germans money. Yea there is a big difference you stupid liberals.

Posted by: bartinsky at December 13, 2007 10:34 PM

I wouldn't mind this so much if they were legitimately working with the commitee; the problem is that the CBC planted questions that had nothing to do with what Brian Mulroney was supposed to be there for, but were intended to put him on the defensive for an unrelated topic. This is supposed to be about Shreiber's allegations...wtf are they asking about the wireless spectrum auction for?

Posted by: john g at December 13, 2007 10:37 PM

Craig Oliver

Craiger is cocky because he's won an Actra Award for his portrayal of Balok in the Corbomite Maneuver episode of the original Star Trek series.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 13, 2007 10:50 PM

According too liebral/dipper supporters - all conservetives lie and all lieberal/dippers tell the true - what rubbish!! PMSH should call an independent inquirey into Adscam/Shawinagate/JC's
golf coures, etc. Also include dipper lies: re liberal canidate bribes in BC.

Posted by: mike in ontario at December 13, 2007 10:51 PM

According too liebral/dipper supporters - all conservetives lie and all lieberal/dippers tell the true - what rubbish!! PMSH should call an independent inquirey into Adscam/Shawinagate/JC's
golf coures, etc. Also include dipper lies: re liberal canidate bribes in BC.

Posted by: mike in ontario at December 13, 2007 10:52 PM

The zaniest line of the day goes to Craig Oliver on Duffy when Oliver was defending the CBC feeding questions to Pablo Rodriquez, Oliver said “ that wouldn’t happen, Pablo is a very smart guy he can think up his own questions.”

Bird bill Oliver is just another Puffin Liberal who flies around his old bogs on the Hill and scoops up his daily load of zooplankton and dumps it on us every night on MDL.

Posted by: nomdeblog at December 13, 2007 11:08 PM

One more time folks.It may do nothing but,write the cbc,google cbc news and follow the links to the ombudsman.You may only get the form letter telling you that you are a nitwit that doesn't know the dif between journalistic independence and journalistic freedom,but somewhere,someplace,somehow we can hope that someone is recording.The nutcases know that the 'squeaky wheel gets the grease'.You know,if only people with common sense could be convinced to wear cool t-shirts and carry signs.and chant thingd like 'what do we want,-----and when do we want it, now!!!. Over and over until the mind numbs,then we too can make a difference. I want an unbiased government news source,and I want it now.

Posted by: wallyj at December 13, 2007 11:34 PM

Brian said he received 75,000/yr for 3 yrs to do consulting blah blah. Therefore, if that pymt was made in one lump sum (KS said 3 pymts) Brian had 3 yrs to declare it on 3 separate returns. Pat Matin was asking re gst. Any of you ever get a bill, invoice etc. You pay gst on the amount, then send it in on a gst return. Gst can be reported in many ways, and paid in different regular periods in the year. Brian never invoiced, but KS would have had to pay him gst, funny, no one asked KS if he paid Brian gst. GST is not reported as income. As for having a gst number, you have to have a different number for every business, so Pat asking if Brian has a number is useless. He probably has several.
Requesting his partnership papers is invasion of privacy for the other partners. I would like to have someone ask Thibault (sp) how much he was paid to set this whole thing up for KS to keep him in Canada. What about his actions, meeting with KS in jail, being sued by Brian, and then be a questioner of Brian on the ethics committee.
I bet we will hear more re Stevie Cameron.
The libs have stepped into it and the ndp is shovelling the pile higher. Dion will not be PM over this, and maybe will suffer Kim's defeat of her party.

Posted by: MaryT at December 13, 2007 11:37 PM

Also,isn't Thiebault being sued by Mulroney? One would think that would disqualify him from asking questions. Only in Cuba,I mean Canada, would this shit be allowed.

Posted by: wallyj at December 13, 2007 11:57 PM

I somehow think that Schreiber believes he will be staying in Canada forever. Lufthansa is waiting.

A huge country to run. A severe winter upon us. Afghanistan and our troops, a top priority. The list goes on.

If the Canadian voter, no matter what party they support, can not grasp what a pantomime this is, we have a problem in the next election.

Posted by: Peter at December 14, 2007 12:21 AM

I somehow think that Schreiber believes he will be staying in Canada forever. Lufthansa is waiting.

A huge country to run. A severe winter upon us. Afghanistan and our troops, a top priority. The list goes on.

If the Canadian voter, no matter what party they support, can not grasp what a pantomime this is, we have a problem in the next election.

Posted by: Peter at December 14, 2007 12:21 AM

Brian Mulroney once stated over a decade ago that “There is No Whore, Like and Old Whore”.


and all quebec politicians are the same.

the reason the reform party started was because payola in the east was the order of the day.

Posted by: cal2 at December 14, 2007 2:08 AM

Liberal MPs on the Ethics Committee were given today's questions to ask by the CBC.

Tail wags the dog?

Posted by: PiperPaul at December 14, 2007 2:34 AM

A taste of the country run by the french.
And thats a historic fact.

Posted by: Brian at December 14, 2007 4:27 AM

We have Trudeau, Chretien Mulroney and Martin. All these clowns are or at one time were associated with Paul Desmarias Power Corp. I wonder why they are the PM's that are involved in verious sleezey tactics . IMO Desmarias and the Prime clown Murice Strong are pulling the strings for these clowns towards their own chosen end results.$$$$$$$$.

Posted by: Rob C at December 14, 2007 4:35 AM

If proven then the CBC should have to wear this cloak of shame during the next federal election. Before each and everyone of their news broadcasts or stories on the election they should have to read a disclaimer stating:

"This news agency has a proven bias in favor of the LPC therefore viewers of our programs must be aware that the credibility of our election coverage is questionable."

Posted by: LynnH at December 14, 2007 6:13 AM

Lynn,

Why not complain to Elections Canada that the LPC is getting free political advertising from the CBC and CTV?

Then another "arm's length" government organization can investigate and give us an answer as to whether there is more than just "bias"?

How do we make government institutions work for us rather than just complain about them....

Posted by: Geoff at December 14, 2007 8:45 AM

"Liberal MPs on the Ethics Committee were given today's questions to ask by the CBC."

An "ethics committee" with Liberals on it is an oxymoron

Even when feigning an ethical purpose the bastards are running some con...this time the collusion was with partisan pimps in Mothercorpse.

Please, Please PM Harper, house clean this bolshy cess pool or pull the plug on it.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at December 14, 2007 8:54 AM

Pablo had a hernia last nite on Duffy, trying to turn it around DelMaestro gave it back big time. Its pretty easy to rewrite in your own handwriting then say you wrote.

But this raises an interesting question
Has the CBC been writing the questions for the liberals in the HOC Question Period? Some of the questions are pretty off the wall looking for mud when there isn't any.

So lets stop wasting anymore money on this Opposition Witch Hunt & Start an Inquiry into the Liberal/Collusion

Posted by: bryanr at December 14, 2007 9:55 AM

They're getting a new CEO.

What do we know about this guy?

I found this short bio of him on the Zarlink Semiconductors website:


Hubert T. Lacroix, Director
Senior Advisor, Stikeman Elliot

Hubert Lacroix has been a Director of Zarlink since July 1992. A senior adviser with the law firm Stikeman Elliott LLP (Montreal office) and with Telemedia Ventures Inc., Mr. Lacroix has more than 25 years’ experience in the fields of mergers and acquisitions of public companies, and corporate finance.

Mr. Lacroix is an active director with several other companies. He acts as Chairman of the Board of SFK Pulp Fund and is a trustee of the different entities in this unit trust structure. He is also a Director of Transcontinental Inc., SECOR Inc. and ITS Investments Limited Partnership. From February 1, 2000 to May 5, 2003, he was Executive Chairman of Telemedia Corporation, a media and telecommunications company. Previous to holding that position, he was a senior partner with a major Canadian law firm for more than 20 years.

Over the years, Mr. Lacroix also sat on the Boards of Donohue Inc., Circo Craft Co. Inc., Adventure Electronics Inc. and Michelin Canada Inc.

In addition, Mr. Lacroix serves as an adjunct professor with the Faculty of Law at Université de Montréal where he teaches in the fields of securities law, and mergers and acquisitions in public markets. He is a trustee of the Martlet Foundation of McGill University, and a director of the Montreal General Hospital Foundation and of the Fonds de développement du Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf.

Mr. Lacroix received his Bachelor of Law from McGill University (1976), was admitted to the Quebec Bar in 1977 and holds an MBA from McGill University (1981).

Posted by: Alex G at December 14, 2007 10:40 AM

Silly silly conservatives... That's not the story!

This is...

"Conservative MPs kind to Mulroney"

OTTAWA - If Brian Mulroney's appearance before a Commons committee was high political theatre, the Conservatives came well prepared with stage direction and scripts that subtly favoured the former prime minister.

Get all the gory details at http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/12/13/4723315-cp.html

Posted by: Zip at December 14, 2007 12:25 PM

Duuuuuuh! Hello! Are you forgetting that the whole Mulroeny--Shreiver fiasco was engineed by the CBC in the first place!! Why wouldn't the Liberals feast on the Carnage?

Posted by: Johnny Jesus at December 14, 2007 1:55 PM

Fire all of the employees and sell off the assets, the CBC is a disgrace.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at December 14, 2007 2:08 PM

According to Mr. Mulroney's answer when he was asked how much of the $225,000 was still left with him, he said $15,000 per year was used for expenses which was a total of $45,000. The rest was still intact. We are talking a very minute sum here but CBC and the Ethic committee will carry this on until he dies. Seems like it wasn't even taxpayers' money to begin with. Note that the amount is almost still there but the MSM fail to mention that. Wow!! How disgusting is MSM - I can't stand watching those stations any longer and hopefully Fox News can come sooner than later to this country. Funny that channel is in the high numbers - channel 251 on the TV guide -and therefore a lot of people don't have access to it. If only people would watch and see how they can bring out the dirt on the left and far left leaning channels like NBC. Think what they could do here in Canada with CBC and often CTV. I am however seeing Mike Duffy being more sensible these days.

Posted by: Jane at December 14, 2007 2:27 PM

This whole Mulroney-Schreiber "Affair" is really nothing compared to what went down under the Liberal reign of boondoggles and various frauds and corruption. That was OUR money they were scattering to the wind to keep themselves in power with.

Mulroney was playing with Schreiber's money or whatever the deal was about.
The man has apologized and I for one believe him. I do not believe Schreiber.
However there are those who would never be satisfied with anything from Mulroney, they'd hang, draw an quarter him for pleasure. These are the same people who give Chretien a pass.

The main problem here is Politics of the insanely desperate Liberals with the Dippers and Blocheads going up the middle to smear anyone they can.

Yesterday, Pablum Rodriguez should have been shouted out of the room with his questioning which had squat to do with this Committee mandate.
If the CBC personnel fed the questions to the Liberanos we had better get onto it pronto because the Media will have no interest in doing it.
They only get their asses in gear when it's a scoop on the Conservatives, even a fabrication will do.
Last week the Dippers were forced to beg forgiveness for their smears, who's next?

Posted by: Liz J at December 14, 2007 3:21 PM

i just had a look a CBC.Ca cannot see anything on the liberal/CBC collusion, nothing at all.
Imagine That

I really think that if & when PM Harper gets a majority that's when (without the opposition interference) we should be reopening these Major Liberal cluster F***S, It will cost a bundle but it could just bury them for years.

Posted by: bryanr at December 14, 2007 3:55 PM

I agree with Gord Tulk, Joanne and Neil that this demands a full public inquiry. If there's any evidence that what Lapierre says is true -- and it shouldn't be too hard to find out -- and if the CBC and the Liberals have been colluding in orchestrating the questions asked -- and therefore covered -- at a parliamentary committee, then the management and reporters at CBC, as well as members of the LPC, should be forced to answer some questions under oath.

Let's hope the Conservatives keep this issue forcefully alive in the house, and refuse to let it drop. If the Liberals and the CBC have been colluding in the interests of Liberal electoral success, that would absolutely be one of the most serious scandals this country has seen, and it would have serious repercussions for the future of the CBC.

At Stephen Taylor's, commenter Roy Eappen described the CBC as a "Liberal War Room"; anybody who's been watching the National would be hard-pressed to disagree.

A couple of days ago Susan Bonner ended a report this way -- (and I wish there was a way of communicating here her tone of voice): "The Harper government has made no secret of it's desire to expand the nuclear industry in Canada. The isotope crisis suggests the management of the current industry might make a better priority. Susan Bonner, CBC news."

That's not news coverage, it's a profoundly presumptuous insertion of her/Liberal "advice" into a supposed news report.

Earlier in her Iggy-heavy report, a clip of Gary Lunn saying calmly that the government's first priority was to resume production of isotopes was set up with these specious, derisive words: "The government was quick to congratulate itself."

Anyone who saw the clip of Lunn knows there was nothing even remotely self-congratulatory in either his words or his tone; it was a matter-of-fact response to a question in the House. Her little shot -- "the government was quick to congratulate itself" -- is an unwarranted, openly partisan smear which, in light of her own reporterly immodesty, is baldly hypocritical in light of her own reporterly immodesty.

CBC's disproportionate extent over the years of CBC's coverage of Brian Mulroney's $300k transaction -- 13 or 14 years ago now -- is absolutely damning for the broadcaster in light of the fact that back when there were serious accusations that a sitting Liberal prime minister used the RCMP to repeatedly goon the BDC's Francois Beaudoin and his family after Beaudoin refused the PM's request to provide a $1.6m (later cut to $615k) taxpayer-funded loan to the pm's friend, there were no Fifth Estate investigative documentaries, and, if you watched the National, it wasn't really news of any sort at all, except perhaps cursorily and in passing.

Chantal Hebert pointed out last night that anyone under the age of 37 would not have even been able to vote for Brian Mulroney, and yet this tawdry $300k affair has been top-of-the-news material for weeks now; there have been, what, four At Issue panels on the subject, and a series of Fifth Estate documentaries. Question: why was Shawinigate, when it was a current story, worthy of only one-one-hundredth or one one-thousandth as much coverage from CBC?

And on a sad note, it's really hard to figure out why Andrew Coyne would continue to display, on CBC, a thousand times more on-air voluble-and-at-length outrage over Mulroney than he ever did over Shawinigate, a far more serious and significant incident that involved a sitting PM, intimidation by the RCMP, and a larger sum of taxpayer -- not private -- money. The discrepancy makes no sense. Either AC's not as outraged by the events surrounding Shawinigate -- which would be hard to fathom -- or (?)

Not enough time spent outside of urban areas?

Suggestions?

Posted by: EBD at December 14, 2007 4:29 PM

We have to remember there are so many of the CBC Hacks who are connected through marriage, family connections and friendships that go back through the Liberal history. It's as close to inbred as it gets.

Coyne is not worth commenting on.

Posted by: Liz J at December 14, 2007 5:24 PM

Liz.

You are talking incest here. Which describes much of it. (chuckle)

Posted by: Peter at December 14, 2007 5:53 PM
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