1 out of 5 carbon credits may be "bogus"? Hard to believe!
They like dirt.
"Soon the state will have to turn to rationing to halt hyper-frantic consumerism."
Do you think it's izzy to stick needles in their arms?
Add yours in the comments.
Posted by Kate at December 3, 2007 9:55 AMOPP HAVE ANOTHER LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST THEM FOR FAILING TO ENFORCE THE LAW.
http://tinyurl.com/32wkyr
""A man hurt during a weekend confrontation in Caledonia says he will take legal action against the OPP for not stepping in when things got ugly.
Gary McHale of Richmond Hill said he was feeling better yesterday after his release from hospital for treatment of bruised ribs, face and foot injuries, but is disappointed in the OPP whom, he said, "didn't enforce the law."
(...)
The protesters encountered a group of 100 natives. About 16 uniformed OPP officers were present, McHale said. McHale and another protester were hurt.""
more of your tax dollars hard at work
http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_mallick/20071130.html
Posted by: cal2 at December 3, 2007 11:01 AMI can't believe the circus this is becoming. I particularly enjoyed the cries of foul over a letter sent to PMSH that he claimed he never saw. Interestingly, Taliban Jack Layton received the the same letter at the same time! Of course, the MSM didn't find Taliban Jack's letter to be news worthy.
"Mulroney has insisted he did nothing wrong. Schreiber did say on Thursday there was nothing illegal about his dealings with Mulroney." CTV Newsnet
I think that this whole deal is nothing more than desperation; Schreiber is desperate to avoid his court date in Germany and the opposition is desperate for dirt to sling at the Conservatives. But, the mastermind behind this is not Schreiber or Mulroney or any of the Opposition PMs, it is PMSH. Steve is letting this circus go on because he is not directly involved and when it becomes clear to the public that it is a circus and waste of taxpayer money, the opposition PMs will be left holding the bag.
Posted by: trent at December 3, 2007 11:07 AMAlberta to pay the freight, today, tomorrow and well into the future.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/12/03/4704027-sun.html
Sperm donor pays maintenance to lesbians
A sperm donor who helped a lesbian couple have two children is now being forced to pay thousands of pounds for their upbringing, he said.
Andy Bathie, 37, agreed to assist Sharon and Terri Arnold - who were united in a religious blessing ceremony - after they assured him he would have no involvement in raising the boy and girl.
But after the couple split up he was tracked down by the Child Support Agency and forced to make regular maintenance payments....
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/03/nsperm103.xml
Strengthening procedures and increasing controls should not be the same sentence as U.N.
Posted by: softtalk at December 3, 2007 11:20 AMFree Carbon Offsets now available for the monetarily challenged
http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/05/free_carbon_offsets_now_availa.html
I see at least two tall men in black on the ice that wont be coaching next year.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Microgalleries/hockeybrawl/?&pic=5
Five in five carbon credits are bogus - they're issued by the UN, only an absolute moron or someone spending someone else's money would have any faith.
Posted by: philanthropist at December 3, 2007 11:28 AMSo a Brit wants rationing? Good idea! For *them*! They really enjoyed it back in the late `40s. It helped to bring Churchill back to power.
How about a central registry for persons who send in "letters to the editor" to major newspapers, (IE: Leader-Post, Star-Phoenix, Ottawa Journal, etc. etc.) and their letters get scrapped because of their Conservative views. I've had several in the last year!! Until I found SDA!!
Posted by: Johnny Jesus at December 3, 2007 11:50 AMHow about a central registry for persons who send in "letters to the editor" to major newspapers, (IE: Leader-Post, Star-Phoenix, Ottawa Journal, etc. etc.) and their letters get scrapped because of their Conservative views. I've had several in the last year!! Until I found SDA!!
Posted by: Johnny Jesus at December 3, 2007 11:51 AMJJ, good idea for a web site.
Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 3, 2007 12:01 PMMonster that may put flesh on the bones of history
The remarkable example of a duckbilled dinosaur is in such good condition, with its skin almost entirely intact, that it has already challenged standard theories about the creatures’ shape, size and movement.
It could yet, however, offer still greater insight into the evolution and biology of the dinosaurs, if hints that organic matter has been preserved are confirmed. Such samples could allow scientists to study dinosaur proteins and even DNA, providing unprecedented clues to their life cycle and development.
Via Veiled4Allah: Flogging a Dead Teddy Bear
...Firstly, having had the dubious honour of attending the said institution (the choice of ‘well heeled’ Sudanese and expat children) for some time due to one of my father’s random diplomatic postings, I am aware that there has always existed an uneasy truce between the highly Westernised elite that chose to send their children to the school and local government authorities who resented the very existence of such an elite and their access to the admittedly exceptional education the school offered. Were it not for the ironic fact that high ranking government officials mostly sent their children to the school, the co-existence would have been much more challenging.
There were several instances where expat teachers were be vaporised due to public displays of drunkenness. Parents who lapsed in their fee payments sometimes resorted to the local authorities to plead their case against the exorbitant unregulated fee structure and sometimes, managed to keep their children at the school by bullying the school administration which comprised mainly of British expats eager not to incur the wrath of the temperamental government. This background is important when judging the actions of the government as totally randomly barbaric.
In addition, the existing government in Sudan has always been prickly, obstreperous and wont to childish displays of inferiority complexes....
Who do you trust?
Harper 30+%
Mercer 20+%
and the rest......
yipes. ya gotta be PM or a TV comedian.......
dion doesn't have a chance
best opposition leader for the CPC
Oh,the horrible indignities suffered by the media whores in rebuilding New Orleans after Katrina!Just saw Brad Pitt giving speech thanking all who pitched in..specifically mentioned how they had 'endured box-lunches,and coach plane flights'..gee,I'll bet those families that had friends/family members killed,or lost absolutely EVERYTHING will feel better knowing the 'stars'have suffered so dreadfully.What a load of self-centered crap!
Posted by: Sammy at December 3, 2007 12:20 PMA brief thought on each topic.
- Bogus Carbon credits? Anything UN Sponsored is corrupt and bogus
- Like dirt ... the MSM in Canada will dwell forever on anything negative to the conservatives.
- Consumerism is out of control. It's not for the government to control what we buy but rather ... I suggest sensible credit limits which will have the effect of controlling debt without the heavy hand of government in your face.
- Needles in their arms? By the time these zombies are using a shooting gallery, there is not much of a life left to save. Pick them up, lock them up, dry them out, send them home. Repeat until they leave your community or leave the earth. Tough love there says I. Kissing the assess of druggies and street people will only give you bad breath.
It isn't enough that we have a federal Commissioner of Official Languages -
.... now we have a super salesman for official bilingualism - Bernard Lord - who has just been appointed to this position.
With an election looming - can the dollars be far behind?
Posted by: calgary clipper at December 3, 2007 12:28 PMForgive me if this has been posted here in the past; I haven't seen it before, though. A global terrorist and suspicious incident map display (using Google maps).
http://www.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
Posted by: Johann at December 3, 2007 12:38 PMSperm donor pays maintenance to lesbians
A sperm donor who helped a lesbian couple have two children is now being forced to pay thousands of pounds for their upbringing, he said.
"no masturbation without representation" could be a new rallying cry as they dump in the boston harbour
or ban sellling turkey basters to all that can should they have a turkey on hand.
Cal2
I enjoyed the link. Heather Mallik has a future in unintended comedy. She begins with:
I hate picking on women. We're born at a disadvantage and in our wild flailing to stay afloat, we make such easy targets.
Makes me want to weep for poor Heather. She then goes on to disparage her sisters as "puck bunnies". I can only assume that while she hates picking on women she's not above doing it.
Heather then goes on to describe her conversation with Dave Ready of the Sens Foundation which is matching the funding raised by the puck bunnies.
She offers him a lesson in following website links and questions the non-profit status of First Place. Heather's conclusion:
Revenue Canada tells me that First Place is not a registered charity.
But the best part of the whole thing is the editors note at the bottom regarding site links and non-profit status.
Editor's note: Ms. Mallick clearly states that Revenue Canada told her First Place is not a registered charity. Links on the website's donation section show that it operates under a different name as a registered charity: Crisis Pregnancy Centre of Ottawa, registered as number 890251382RR0001.
So this makes the whole premise of Heather's article bullshit.
Who's the bunny now?
Syncro
Posted by: syncrodox at December 3, 2007 1:30 PMI should clarify. I used the term "non-profit status" when I should have used registered charity.
My bad.
Syncro
Posted by: syncrodox at December 3, 2007 1:38 PM"Sperm donor pays maintenance to lesbians"
BWWWAHAHAHAAA!!!! Sucker !!!
Posted by: Orlin at December 3, 2007 2:00 PMBecause I know how much Warren Kinsella loves Kate & SDA:
http://www.warrenkinsella.com/
Warren is all puffed up because he wins a Google fight over Norman Spector. But I submit for your consideration the Google fight between Warren Kinsella & Small Dead Animals.
http://tinyurl.com/yqwkqc
Talk about "Ouch" Warren.
Prelude to Power: a review of A Woman in Charge: The Life of Hillary Rodham Clinton, by Carl Bernstein.
Didn't know Hillary was a Goldwater Girl.
Posted by: Charles MacDonald at December 3, 2007 2:40 PMIt would be very reassuring to me to learn than 80% of carbon credits were legitimate. I suspect that the western agencies that promote these things siphon off considerable amounts in fees, project costs, etc. etc.
But such is the nature of conscience money. Like foreign aid, it really doesn't matter how the money is spent, just as long as it is spent so we can say that we are "doing something".
Posted by: Richard Ball at December 3, 2007 3:33 PMRobert Latimer, the man who killed his 12-year-old handicapped daughter, is out on parole.
He was convicted and sentenced to life with no parole for ten years. He started serving in 2001. Guess what? He managed to get parole after 6 1/2.
After killing his daughter.
Posted by: SUZANNE at December 3, 2007 3:38 PMTo accompany the previous post, “Muslim fags don’t exist.”
From a speech to Dutch Parliament by the only sane politician they have:
"Mr Wilders’s contribution to the parliamentary debate on Islamic activism."
zaterdag 29 september 2007
Thursday, 6 September 2007
Madam Speaker, allow me, first, to express my sincere thanks to you personally for having planned a debate on Islam on the very day of my birthday. I could not have wished for a nicer present!
Madam Speaker, approximately 1400 years ago war was declared on us by an ideology of hate and violence which arose at the time and was proclaimed by a barbarian who called himself the Prophet Mohammed. I am referring to Islam.
Madam Speaker, let me start with the foundation of the Islamic faith, the Koran. The Koran’s core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. The Koran is above all a book of war – a call to butcher non-Muslims (2:191, 3:141, 4:91, 5:3), to roast them (4:56, 69:30-69:32), and to cause bloodbaths amongst them (47:4). Jews are compared to monkeys and pigs (2:65, 5:60, 7:166), while people who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God must according to the Koran be fought (9:30).
Madam Speaker, I acknowledge that there are people who call themselves Muslims and who respect our laws. My party, the Freedom Party, has nothing against such people, of course. However, the Koran does have something against them. For it is stated in the Koran in Sura 2, verse 85, that those believers who do not believe in everything the Koran states will be humiliated and receive the severest punishment; which means that they will roast in Hell. In other words, people who call themselves Muslims but who do not believe, for example, in Sura 9, verse 30, which states that Jews and Christians must be fought, or, for example, in Sura 5, verse 38, which states that the hand of a thief must be cut off, such people will be humiliated and roast in Hell. Note that it is not me who is making this up. All this can be found in the Koran. The Koran also states that Muslims who believe in only part of the Koran are in fact apostates, and we know what has to happen to apostates. They have to be killed.
Madam Speaker, the Koran is a book that incites to violence. I remind the House that the distribution of such texts is unlawful according to Article 132 of our Penal Code. In addition, the Koran incites to hatred and calls for murder and mayhem. The distribution of such texts is made punishable by Article 137(e). The Koran is therefore a highly dangerous book; a book which is completely against our legal order and our democratic institutions. In this light, it is an absolute necessity that the Koran be banned for the defence and reinforcement of our civilisation and our constitutional state. I shall propose a second-reading motion to that effect.
The whole speech can and should be read here:
geertwilders.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1214&Itemid=101
Ban the koran. What a delightful thought !!!
Posted by: wallyj at December 3, 2007 4:04 PMHumour, ridicule and teddy bears defeat Islamic madness!
Now available at therudenews.com/?p=178
the CAIR Bears!
Sporty little sword welding puffed up teddy’s including:
Jihad Bear - Jihad Bear is at the front lines killing filthy Zionist Bears everywhere. Peace be upon him!
Sharia Bear - Sharia Bear is properly clothed, otherwise she will be stoned to death.
Scare Bear - Scare Bear has many hats. Sympathizer, Talking Head and even Film Producer. Whether its phony protests, fighting cartoons, blaming Israel or filming atrocities for Allah, Scare Bear is ready to indulge the Western media.
Barrister/Attorney Bear - The #1 CAIR Bear. This little guy has copied other victim hustlers and has built an industry using our Western values against us. Allah hu Ackbear!
Ayatollah Bear - Ayatollah Bear is greatly exalted for his issuing of death-fatwas upon infidels.
Dhimmi Bear - Dhimmi Bear gets to pay Jizya to his respective Islamic Government. Historically in the U.S., we know Jizya as “protection money” paid to the Siclilian Sharia.
Mohammed Bear - Mohammed Bear fools all the other Bears (except Dhimmi Bear who is forced) into believing he is Holy. His followers go on to continually divide and harass the world while claiming to be victims. What a tricksey Bear he is!
Including pictures.
Chimps make chumps of university students in memory tests
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/12/03/chimp-memory.html
I laughed but I'll refrain from commenting on this one.
Posted by: LynnH at December 3, 2007 4:45 PMIs Robert Latimer actually out on parole? I am so glad; his trial and sentence was, in my view, an absolute outrage, a total miscarriage of the idea of mercy and justice.
Suzanne, your simple post hides the real issues behind the case. Don't ignore these real issues and their facts - the fact that Tracy, his daughter's medical situation had worsened to a state where her bones were actually disintegrating, where her pain couldn't be managed by painkillers because these affected her breathing and seizures, the fact that the proposed operation meant further pain (not during the operation) but post-operation and would not stop the disintegration of her body.
No-one would allow an animal to endure such trauma and pain. To allow people whom one loves to endure it is unacceptable.
The issue of her being 'handicapped' was totally irrelevant to the facts of her body disintegration and pain - and yet, the handicapped activists sabotaged the trial, turning it into an emotional guilt trip around the 'rights of the handicapped in our society'.
So- if he's out on bail, I'm very glad. He should never have been sent to prison. When I think of the women who have actively rejected and murdered their children, and have gotten off by pleading 'postpartum depression' etc - and compare it with the crisis faced by Latimer with their daughter - well, our justice system needs to do some thinking.
Posted by: ET at December 3, 2007 4:46 PMNew Leopard tanks in Afghan
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=000b52bd-636b-4889-96a1-183314f6f79c
Delivered by the C17?
Posted by: aj in calgary at December 3, 2007 5:11 PM"quangocrats" are in Balsi, too.
...-
A blast of hot air at Bali's climate conference
UK Telegraph
"It's not the waste that rankles so much as the hypocrisy. Some 15,000 politicians, officials, quangocrats and assorted busybodies are descending on Bali for a jamboree that will produce more than 100,000 tons of CO2 emissions. The purpose of their trip? To discuss how to reduce CO2 emissions." ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1934131/posts
Shaw Cable is disgusted and I am shocked..
Tax Billion$ wasted?? In Canada? G*wan..
That is Billion$ with a *B*, not mere millions.
**The Canadian Television Fund was created to help promote and develop quality TV programming in Canada. Somewhere along the line, the CTF lost their way. They have spent $2.5 billion dollars, with little to show for it, funnelling millions towards promoting quality Canadian programming without actually achieving this goal.
How did this happen? Who made the decisions to spend billions of your dollars to achieve so little? How is this money accounted for and who is responsible for such meagre results?
We all should be held accountable — from the boardroom table to the kitchen table — for how other people's money is spent.
At Shaw, we believe television should entertain, inform, inspire and make you think. We support the development of original Canadian programming that reflects this great country of ours.
We also believe that the money provided by Canadians should be managed, accounted for and spent wisely. Otherwise, this great opportunity will be wasted.
We need a better way to create quality Canadian programming. The CTF is broken and can't be fixed. You deserve better.**
https://secure.shaw.ca/apps/Secure/CRTCForms/CTF.aspx
================================== Shaw Cable
Another librano scam for the *Scamslist* [Google]
When a corporate service provider can speak out so strongly, ya gotta appreciate freedom... eh? = TG
Remember Scott Beauchamp?
Remember The New Republic's Editors defending the BS for a long long time? Remember how the stories were retold all over the Leftstream media again and again?
Well Franklin Foer the editor in chief of New Republic ... has taken around about way to admit the whole thing was a confabulation.
But takes about 14 pages into the essay he writes about the affair to admit it!
*Tries to Come Clean* - Here at Pajamas Media we see the story.
They just can't help themselves ....
Powerline writer John Hinderaker offers up some
sacrificial moonbats for consideration of the mechanisms and rhetoric of Moral Equivalence the Brain Starved Left love so well.
Conservatives playing games with the military..."National Defence has been warned it will have to cover the costs of the Afghan war entirely out of its own budget next year":
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/national/071202/n120219A.html
Posted by: lberia at December 3, 2007 6:08 PMhere is your canadian program, from CBCpravdas not so hidden agenda.
http://www.cbc.ca/thelens/program_041207.html
can someone watch it for me and see if lactation is discussed at length.or midwifery?
Buttcrack Karl is a drool producer?
And, a tantalizer with tidbits. And, a sprinkler. And, moonbat NDP-Martin wants to use mace. And, "Bloc Quebecois colleague Carole Lavallee is not crazy". And, "Former Mulroney staffer and political observer Norman Spector says". And, Buttcrack is gonna play Kris Kringle, aka Christkindl.
The Liberal-NDP Gong Show gets better.
...-
OTTAWA - Karlheinz Schreiber sprinkled his testimony at last week's parliamentary hearings with enough tantalizing tidbits to keep MPs drooling for more....-
MPs strategize over how to keep Schreiber talking before committee
http://tinyurl.com/ywpqbm (canoe news)
One of the funniest items of Soviet history was the non-surprise when Nikky Khruschov snuffed lberia who was the boss of the NKVD/KGB. Putin springs out of the KGB. Da.
...-
The other election
The NYT reports that Vladimir Putin's party has won by a large margin, which means that while he has promised not to run for President again, it may not matter.
“He has created really an authoritarian system, in which he is like a hill in the desert, and nobody is around,” Mr. Yavlinsky said. “Now time has come to make a transfer of power, and he really, really has no idea how to do that. And nobody else has any idea. And his character is such that he has no confidence in anybody.” Still, not everyone believes that the disquiet will last.
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/
ET: re: Latimer. I struggled with that one. However, I think your argument is very sound and convincing. A good analogy vis a vis mothers with post partum depression killing their babies and getting off scot-free.
The "rights of the handicapped" was a paint-by-numbers non argument in the Latimer case. Another example of advocacy "justice" which it usually isn't.
Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at December 3, 2007 6:47 PMIrwin @ 4:13 PM.....Bwahahahahahhahehehe....thanks for the laughs.Great way to end the day.
Posted by: Justthinkin at December 3, 2007 6:53 PMCaption This [pregnant?] Polar Bear at Bali Climate Change Conference
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1934185/posts
Commenter # 10: I vote we call him Mohammed.
Maybe we can start a riot.
ET
Your grasp of the facts and context of Robert Latimer's case are bang on. I would like to point out something regarding his incarceration and parole considerations.
Robert Latimer is within a few months of 2/3rds. of his 10 yr. sentence. "Mandatory Supervision" dictates that he must be released unless a dangerous offender designation is being sought.
He has done all his time....largely because he would not admit he did anything wrong.
That man has lived with a degree of integrity that escapes all but a few.
Welcome back Mr. Latimer.
Syncro
Posted by: syncrodox at December 3, 2007 7:39 PMI also agree with ET's commentary re the Latimer case. I was originally shocked when it was suggested that this was about his child's disability, rather than her acute pain. I thought this did a diservice to both Latimer and all disabled people. Having said that, please do not use the plight and failure to prosecute women with postpartum depression as a measure of the unfairness of Latimer's situation. These are both sad, sad situations and I do not believe that most of us are qualified to judge either one.
Posted by: LindaL at December 3, 2007 8:13 PMIran expelled our Canadian Ambassador today....
Does this mean we can expel all of their people NOW?
Heh:
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2791
NYC Murders Drop, Democrats Call for Cop Pull Out
Posted by: ann at December 3, 2007 8:48 PMLindaL - yes, I agree, your comments on postpartum depression are very valid; it's a chemical imbalance, and the results can indeed be severe.
I was, albeit inefficiently, trying to make an analogy where the same action (death of the child) can be viewed as irrelevant or highly criminal. But, a point not to be ignored is that in a fair number of cases, the state of postpartum depression is not clinically confirmed but alleged by the Defence Lawyer. And it works; the courts are afraid to convict even if there is no proof. A man doesn't have such a defense available to him.
However, Latimer never claimed any defense (ie, insanity, imbalance, etc). His only claim was that he, as a parent who loved his daughter, could no longer stand to watch her increasing agony as her physical body disintegrated; he didn't see how he could put this child through more agony and pain with yet another operation, one which would result in more pain. It was a situation which was without hope and without amelioration.
So, finally, he's out. But, our justice system failed him and failed his daughter. It's a terrible situation to be in - to watch one's child in agony, an agony that is without hope for any betterment, and yet, still be bound by the sanctity of life and love for that child. And to leave such a decision up to the individual alone - a dreadful situation. But the 'quality of mercy' and the right to be merciful, has to exist in our lives.
Posted by: ET at December 3, 2007 9:39 PMsay "I divorce thee" three times as per the Koran and warm up the planet.
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/12/03/divorce-environment.html
there is no end to CBCpravda global warming stories.
Posted by: cal2 at December 3, 2007 9:45 PMR. Fife on ctv newsnet says that he has found out that KHS paid Mulroney to lobby the UN to buy light armoured vehicles. He also says that Mulroney did not pay gst on the money because it was work done outside of Canada. A quick recap. KHS has testified that he and his associates have never had any contact with Harper or his office. KHS and/or Fife claim that Mulroney was paid to lobby outside of Canada. Now if all this is true,Fife has been known to be wrong, how are the libs and media going to spin it so that it sticks to Harper. PMSH may have been giving sage advice when he warned Steffi to be careful for what he wishes for.
Posted by: wallyj at December 3, 2007 10:23 PMAngus Reid Poll re gun registry:
http://rm.angusreidforum.com/?cid=964&rs=GREnGg
96% don't think it works...I'm convinced!
Posted by: eastern paul at December 3, 2007 10:44 PMWith sagacity reminiscent of a white washed sepulchre and the puerile logic of a venomous asp, ET justifies the extermination of a beautiful young woman. A young lady who loved the colours of a rainbow, who would become enraptured by the gossamer wings of the butterfly that had just brushed against her cheek, and was fascinated by the beauty of ribbons an bows. With all the compassion of the most vile eugenicist ET excuses the actions of a man who took his helpless daughter put her in nearest gas chamber and opened the valve on a long slow painful death.
What great and noble cause did this sordid act advance? What purpose did it serve? With all the wealth of this land, with all the societal supports available, with all the friends and relatives ready, willing and able to provide respite care we are supposed to excuse a man killed his daughter in a manner moral people restrict to the eradication of vermin.
Who is so worthy that they shall determine who shall live and who must die. Some ideologically driven despot? Some elitist who by power of superior intellect so determines? Shall we who are “whole” decree that those who do not meet our lofty perfection be flushed like an over ripe turd?
This I know, “A society that fails to protect its most vulnerable no longer belongs in the ranks of the civilized.”
Posted by: Joe at December 3, 2007 11:37 PMOh well, one can think of Latimer's conviction as delayed retribution for his rape conviction of 1974. He, and another man, were convicted of raping a 15 yr old girl when Latimer was 21. The rape conviction was overturned on appeal because the trial judge hadn't allowed sufficient examination of the girl's previous sexual history.
So, he's a rapist and a murderer.
http://www.nrlc.org/news/2001/NRL03/latimer.html
Posted by: ol hoss at December 4, 2007 3:23 AMAnd ET proves why no Gaia worshipper ought to be involved in moral decisions of any kind.
Posted by: ol hoss at December 4, 2007 3:29 AMjoe and ol hoss - get stuffed. With facts. Not romantic rubbish.
The daughter was long past being even capable of enrapture with butterflies. She was in continual outrageous physical agony. Justify that type of life in your santimonious self-glorification.
Justify torture. Justify allowing a loved one to live, without remedy, in agony. Justify it.
Justify 'protecting' someone to live, 24 hours a day, in agony. Justify how that is 'protecting the most vulnerable'. Justify torture, justify insisting, for your sanctimonious self, that another person endure torture. Go on. Do it.
And don't give me that bullshit about 'long slow painful death'. Carbon monoxide poisoning is painless.
As for the rape charge, it was dropped. End of story. And, it has nothing to do with this situation.
Posted by: ET at December 4, 2007 1:59 PMI defer to your infinite IQ ET. I was just quoting what people who had met and interacted with the girl said. Obviously you know better. According to the medical profession, who obviously know so much less than you, what was required to aleviate the pain was the removal of part of the femur kind of like what they do for hip replacements. For your sake I hope that should you ever need a hip replacement your caregiver doesn't take you out behind the barn and gas you like an infestation of rats.
A society that fails to protect its most vulnerable no longer belongs in the ranks of the civilized.
That's interesting, joe. I was just quoting what people who had met and interacted with the girl said as well. Her condition had deteriorated badly over the past two years.
And I was quoting her doctors, who said that the operation wasn't 'all' that was necessary; that there was no solution because her bones were distintegrating; that the operation's aftermath would increase her pain; that she was unable to tolerate more than Tylenol, which didn't ease the pain, because of her anti-convulsant drugs.
You haven't answered my questions; Do you support torture? Do you support permitting a loved one to live in agony? Answer - and enough with the sanctimonious talk. Live in the real world and answer: Do you support torture?
Posted by: ET at December 4, 2007 3:12 PMNor did you answer mine: Who shall determine when someone else's life is no longer worth living?
As for your question suffering and torture are two entirely different things. Our job is to alleviate not eliminate suffering.
Posted by: Joe at December 4, 2007 4:16 PMET, I'm sorry you're in so much pain over this. Perhaps you should be euthanized.
Posted by: ol hoss at December 5, 2007 11:42 AM