de 'arper regime push climate change in de wrong direction , we phwant de climate do be coolare . hi do nod phwant mssr 'arper do 'eye jack dis con france an push around dw phworld lieg a beeg bully as 'e wuz in de common welt. -Borat Dion

This guy should rename his dog to Mirage then hopefully they would both disapear.

Will somebody please take Dion out behind the House of Commons and beat the shit out of him!

But will the MSM make fun of him when he loses his luggage?

I would think there would be a CBCpravda reporter there to cover his every pronouncement. a gaggle of gogglers.

"Will somebody please take Dion out behind the House of Commons and beat the shit out of him! "

Rona or Helena would be a good choice.

Let's try this - Dion stays, Schreiber goes (apparently not).

All three non-elected, non-government parties took it upon themselves to tell the governor of Montana that they alone represent the majority of Canadians, not the elected Government of Canada.

And now the French citizen is attempting to fight against, if not replace the elected Canadian Government in Bali.

I wonder how you say treason in French? Guillotine?

What's Steffi going to say when he gets there, Bali,Hi!

For sure he'll have an entourage of Tweedle Dumbs from CBC and CTV, maybe they'll pay his flight and bar tab.
Hope they keep an eye on him, wouldn't want him to drown or anything, WE NEED HIM to keep this good government in power!

File under Twit goes to the South Pacific to steal the show. What a hoot.

Here's hoping that come next election, the Canadian public will look at this Bali stunt as being the farce it is. Then maybe we can all sing Dion a chorus from the musical South Pacific:

"I'm gonna wash that man right outta my hair..."

" AGW conference ends at the swim up bar"...priceless Kate!

There really can't be enough cynical humor directed at the toxic hypocrisy of the political & pseudo-science evangelists who ride the AGW hoax for fame and perks.

I hope Citoyen Dijon and Soo-Zook both get crotch fungus looking for AGW solutions in upscale Bali bordellos.

I wonder if, as another one of the unnecessary 20,000+ CO2 producers at the Bali conference, he will he apologize to Chad for using up their entire annual quota of CO2 emissions ?

Didn't think so.

Maybe he can buy some carbon credits from Al Gore, make him a bit richer.

The only benefit of this entire global benefit scam is that liberal heads almost explode when I honestly tell them I don't care about the future of the planet.

Then there's the little extra twist of the vice when they ask about the children and I gently explain that for the children I love I'll leave behind whatever money I can as well as the firearms and training they'll need.

As to Dion, I'm going to go take my dog out for a car ride. We'll grab a Tim's.

I walk to work in the morning and again after lunch. Each round trip is 3 km, so I walk 6 km a day. Can I sell these carbon credits to someone?

Releive your guilt! Pay me to continue to walk to work.

John M Reynolds

Re our Dishonourable Leader of the Opposition, and sticking with the South Pacific sound track—Bali Hi: super! and I’m Gonna Wash That Man Right Out-a my Hair—he's such a light weight and buffoon, how about “A hundred and one pounds of fun, that’s my little honey-Dion”.

While Nellie sang the “Honey Bun” song, Luther Billis and his buddies, dressed as grass skirted floozies with coconut boobs and watermelon size, bright red lips, knew they were spoofing it up. Dion IS a (s)poof, an utter will o’ the wisp, who believes he’s an oak tree. Quel idiot!

A little OT - but did Dion not state that he was going to visit Afghanistan "at the first chance". Sent Coderre instead, haven't heard from him. Now Dion is heading for Bali - must be hard to make priorities.

I assume Denis Coderre will be leaving post haste for Bali to pave the way for the leaders visit. After all, Denis usually takes point on these international hot spots. No?

On the upside I hear the accommodations in Bali are somewhat more upscale then tents and porta-pottys. At least Ruby Dhalla can rest assured that Denis and Stephane will be entertained in a manner befitting their importance and stature.

On that note, I must add that Dion will surely make it to Kandahar when the lodging opportunities achieve enough gold stars.

Syncro

DWT - heh. You're right. What about Dion's famed intention to visit Afghanistan 'at the first chance'? Certainly, Bali is more environmentally amenable than a war zone. It is indeed 'hard to make priorities'.

If Dion goes to Bali, he should be considered simply one of the silly young jejune activists who are there to party and protest ... AND NOTHING MORE!

Dion is an immature person who is always on the verge of a tantrum.

And he should pay his own way there as mentioned.

I loved the 'wallets edge' comment ... how true is that.

This really concerns me as a Canadian. Dion could make Canada seem like a laughing stock. Maybe he should go as a citizen of France instead.

Does Dion not understand International protocol???He and his opinions have NO STANDING as representing Canada on the International stage. Anything derogatory or "anti government position" that he does in other countries is treasonous.

He did not earn the right to speak for this country.

Perhaps the government protocol should call him on the carpet and explain these things to him before Dion makes an international faux pas and we all look like fools.

Just noted that the Liberals claim that Baird does not want to invite the Opposition to Bali because they want to " avoid being criticized or ridiculed".

Well DUH. Do you think our country wants to be criticized or ridiculed on the world stage???? By blatant political opportunists doing it for THEIR political gain and nothing to do with what is in the best interests of 33 million Canadians?

So - that just tells you the very motive for Dion going to Bali - to criticize and ridicule our Prime Minister. That's sure going to help our cause isn't it?

I am so infuriated by these slimely Liberal snakes wanting to take their slimely political disgusting antics onto the world stage.

Like I said - TREASON

Never mind that E.C. just predicted the coldest Canadian winter in 15 years...

I would suggest Dion hitchhike to BC, rent a leaky canoe and start paddling to Bali. He could raise so much support from eco-bleeding-hearts across this country. Like Terry Fox or Rick Hansen. What a heroic one-cause man.

Dion thinks he speaks for me? How dare he!

Do you think it is easy to stay democratic?

If Stephen Harper gets the U.S. to agree to limits( Bush would be crazy to possibly leave it to the Dems) in Bali ,he may be in line for a Nobel Prize.:)

To the Gorzuki crowd, Environment Canada warns that this will be the coldest winter in years.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071130/cold_winter_071130/20071130?hub=TopStories

20,000 delegates living off taxpayers all over the world. The airport can't accommodate all the private jets spewing CO2 into the atmosphere. Disgusting!!

Stephan Dion is just taking a page from Nancy Pelosi's foreign policy trip to Syria. Ms. Pelosi's trip obviously led to a peace deal in the Middle East which is gainsaying Bush's current conference in Annapolis.

Maybe Stephane Dion can take Karlheinz Schreiber with him as there is always a shortage of aging german men in speedo trunks swimming up to the daquiri swim bar. Remember KHS is not a 'flight risk' which should be a good thing for Airbus.

Goodness gracious there could be collusion between Stephane Dion's messenger Thibault and KHS to plot strategy to smear PMSH and the current government.

35000 pages of notes is a lot of paper to review.
How many trees aren't absorbing C02 due to the voluminous notes is a calculation Dion should take a great interest in.

Cheers

I'm honoured for the link Kate. You've just managed to more than double my visits in less than 5 hours. The real government of Canada needs to comment publicly, both here in Canada and internationally that these morons to speak for us.

Personally I'd like to hear something like this:

CTV/CBC Pressitute: But Stephan Dion said XYZ at the Bali conference...

PM Harper: If Stephan Dion wants to earn the right to speak for the people of Canada then he'd better stop sulking and sitting on his hands in parliament every time there is a confidence vote.

Assuming we still have some protocol left for such treks, our Prime Minister and delegation will be the only ones heard from representing Canada.

Dion and his minions can't be playing Liberal gotcha games on the world stage. Is he planning to sit at the back of the room and heckle like they do in QP?

Bloody fools.

Liz - if Dion goes the Liberal Canadian media will make sure it is ONLY Dion's comments that are reported on back home - comments that condemn and ridicule our Prime MInister as he attempts to work on this issue to the betterment of the world.

Dion will be aided by the Liberal media as the Liberals work on the betterment of the Liberal power mongers.

Sickening sickening sickening.

Just thinking of someone like Dion going to other countries speaking for MY Canada makes me sick. He is a total bufoon and when other countires see that is the kind of person we choose as politicians and party leaders to boot we all look stupid.

gotta luv it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NiKuJAJxmk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLgROKejBGo&feature=related

I thought he would ride off on a bicycle.

Since it seems a statistical majority of voting Canadians have been sucked in by the MMGW fraud,I applaud Harper for NOT taking the easy vote-getting path of simply complying with the hysteria for political gain.

From what I have witnessed of the LPC this past decade,I would expect nothing less of Dion than to treat this supposed impending global catastrophe as nothing more than an opportunity to politically grandstand.

To those who openly support this man,how f**king stupid can you be to believe a man who failed to accomplish ANYTHING when he had all the chance in the world.

Blind partisan airheads.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posted/archive/2007/11/30/stephane-dion-s-first-anniversary-at-least-no-one-is-calling-him-celine.aspx

celine would be a compliment

PMSH has to stop this b.s. with the Liberals once and for all.

Bring forward, as a matter of confidence, a vote to adopt the CPC environment plan as official Canadian policy.

If the government falls, we get an election and a certain majority government despite what the Liberal lackey pollsters say.

If the Liberals sit on their hands again and abstain, they can forever shut their pie holes.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

clair voyant,

You ignore the realities of the current political landscape in Canada.

An election with the environment as it's core issue would be a very happy hunting ground for the insincere LPC and it's MSM sycophants.

As much as I consider a Harper led government miles ahead of any recent LPC led one,the polls continue to show Canadians are NOT willing to give Harper a majority.
One cons mistep and we are back to a lib minority.

A New Debate on Female Circumcision

Dr. Ahmadu, a post-doctoral fellow at the University of Chicago, was raised in America and then went back to Sierra Leone as an adult to undergo the procedure along with fellow members of the Kono ethnic group. She has argued that the critics of the procedure exaggerate the medical dangers, misunderstand the effect on sexual pleasure, and mistakenly view the removal of parts of the clitoris as a practice that oppresses women. She has lamented that her Westernized “feminist sisters insist on denying us this critical aspect of becoming a woman in accordance with our unique and powerful cultural heritage.”

http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/a-new-debate-on-female-circumcision/

I'd say chances are good that the self-loathing radical feminists are in agreement. Hey, they are giving this human deformity a place at the table. How sick is that.

Fair enough, Teddy re: Tory mistep leads to Grit minority; however, we cannot ignore the gaffes Dion will surely make in campaign. Just picture the guy in english debates to get idea of what I mean. In an election, statements like "I will end poverty" will be challenged with reference to policy to achieve goals. I can't wait for their Kyoto implementation policy, complete with carbon credits to China.

Harper and Tories are way more organized, have way more money, and have proven they can formulate policy, unlike the Liberals, who are making fools of themselves, and this country, by spending their time supporting criminals like Kadr, Morton and Schreiber.

When Canadians actually think about politics, in election campaign, then we will see how hesitant they will be to give Tories a majority. Having said, that, the large cities, particularly Toronto, seem to still buy into the idea that Tories are mouth-breathing religious zealots who want women in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant without access to abortion, who want to bring back capital punishment (kind of ironic don't you think, given the stereotype of Christian fundamentalists, who as a group oppose capital punishment).

Then again, common sense is not the strong suit of the electorate. No way Dion becomes PM. No, it's not the same as Harper's experience, where the same things were said about him. When Harper became Tory leader, he rebuilt the organization and financial health of the party, then moved onto his strong suit, policy formation. Harper didn't get the keys to 24 Sussex Dr until he did that.

Dion has failed to do either, seeming to think he can get Canadians to trust him by slinging mud, humiliating Canada on the world stage, and cavorting with criminals and terrorists. It won't wash

Hexcuse monsieur, reserf table pour M.Ciroen et entourage.
"I'm sorry sir, this reservation is for the lonng tables in the common area. Now if you don't mind, we have heads of state and other important personnages arriving..mmmk?"
HI NOT UNTERSTANT Mon Dieu! From Canada wit full entourage hwe come safe da worlt!
"Sir, if you don't mind please, I'll be forced to call security."
HIME HAreal Canadian EARHo hi demant table wit d'importants. Da worlt depent hon me.

Is it my imagination or is the MSM constantly talking about what the Liberals should do to get back power? Isn't it all about the Liberals and what they should do to GET the Conservatives and how Dion MISSED so many chances?

Not one bloody word about the great work this government is doing in such a short time, run by an honest, straight shooter like Harper.

Today I was sickened by the lawyer for Schreiber who was giving Harper the gears for treating his client, Schreiber so harshly.

How the hell can anyone deal with such a stacked deck and still run a credible government with such a bunch of Liberal hacks, hounds and sucks?

This is the sort of slime that brings down governments in Banana Republics. Are we there yet?

Just had a vision of Dion at the Swim up Bar! Some of my supper just came up.
-27c for a low tonite, gotta love this Global Warming.
Mert.

"These opposition media whores are making this country a complete laughingstock internationally. You do not see Condolezza Rice berated in Israel by Hillary Clinton who followed here there to state the Democratic platform."

I seem to remember Stephen Harper using his podium recently in Australia to air Canada's political laundry to the world, which is not very statesman like IMO.

Steve, that comment is so stupid it doesn't even warrant any response.

Hey Shamrock, does it make you an idiot if you preach about how unworthy of a response my comment is while you're responding to my comment? It's kind of like a fat guy preaching against eating hamburgers while eating one. Thanks though! ;)

No it doesn't.

As the scam unravels more and more rapidly the screaming lefties get ever more shrill with their rhetoric about the impending demise of the planet. Yes this 5 billion year old planet is in need of Steffis help and along with those high IQ fellows like Gore and the old Suzukelele they will single handedly save our planet while plucking your wallet. Only a Lieberal would be stupid enough to try to stop global warming as the jets fly people non-stop during every winter, to warmer places than this 30 below place. Think of the carbon you morons, from all those planes, give it up your now pathetic with this modern day tulip bulb hoax.

Shamrock wrote:

"No it doesn't"

Ok, perhaps not an idiot, but a wee bit slower than the average bear.

steve, I assume that you are speaking of PM Harper's comments on the Senate.

It's amazing that you would hold your nose and use the unelected and unaccountable senate to try to demonstrate how the Prime Minister, elected to that post by the people does not... in your twisted opinion... have the right to speak for the people of Canada.

Shamrock is right... Your comment is stupid.

Shamrock is right... Your comment is stupid.

actually shamrock is wrong, the stupidity should be assigned to the commentor

Stevee.......tell me how great the accomplishments of the lieberals are from their stint in power, how they reduceded gorebull warming, how they traced the"brown" envelopes and punished those involved, and ALL their other little escapades

Dion: Harper can take a page from Clinton. When Clinton went to China, GOP speaker Neut G insisted on going. Clinton put him in the "back" of the Plane. Nuet was so furious he spent the whole trip complaining to the Press. Neut's sulking followed his career.
Harper could go one step better and "bump" Dion from his ROOM for some minor (NDP) player.

California problem (National Post)
[quote]What kind of tracking systems can measure greenhouse gas emissions, how can businesses determine what their emissions were in 1990 and how can the state verify emission cuts are happening?[/quote]

What have they been doing in California for the last 40+ years. I remember reading a (1995 Harvard Bus Review) study that reported that Enviormental Initiatives lacked both valid science & results tracking.The only benifit was jobs for the Green folk. I guess when they gave the little dwarfs a blank check they should have at least "suggested" Scientific measured results.

The Connection between BIG OIL & these Canadian Enviormental Jobs, like "Pembina institute" and Aldyen Donnelly, must have been the result of previous & ongoing GOV funding & regulations

Every Gallon of Gas you burn these GREEN Dwarfs
& Big Oil profit.

GYM, as I said in another post here today I really think using terminology like "liebrals", "KKKlinton", "Bushitler", "Hellary", "leftards", "Rightwingnuts", etc. really demeans an argument. "Gorebull" is a new one for me, but equally pathetic and childish.

There are people on both the right and left who do this and I can't for the life of me shake the image of a 5 year old typing this stuff when I see it.

But I guess to address your comments, I don't have any particular affection for the Liberal party or any party for that matter. How you guys can be so blatantly partisan and assume all of the good guys miraculously landed in a grouping of infallible greatness called the Conservative Party of Canada, is beyond me. But hey, if being a partisan hack (aka blissful ignorance) happens to be your fancy, why should I go on judging?

As for someone else ("Zip") who concluded that my opposition to Harper airing Canada's political laundry while on official state business abroad was tantamount to supporting the status quo in the senate: Oh how wrong you could be. I actually support an elected senate. Proportional representation in the upper house would be even better!

Just because I want my prime minister to grow up and act like a statesman doesn't mean I don't agree with what he's espousing from time to time.

Hey, they are giving this human deformity a place at the table.

But male circumcision is routine, accepted and defended usually as a "cleanliness" issue.

That's a good argument if one wears a robe-type garment without SpongeBob UnderPants in a sandy environment, eh?

With adequate H2O and soap in the western world the original purpose for this surgery may no longer be required, from a hygenic and health perspective.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ike's_Wee_Wee

steve, PM Harper was commending the Australians on their elected senate.

pendant.

Steve,

Define political laundry.

Is it that he did not kow-tow to the Liberal Doctrine of "Bend Over" on foreign policy?

Harper IMHO did well.

Lorraine, Dion's trip does border on Treason, it's all about going against the government of this country. It's all about getting attention for himself and his desperate beyond reason Liberals and of course their hacks and hounds in the MSM who will report his every move.

Watch for it,front page for Dion, page four for Harper and the Official delegation of the duly elected government.
He'll have nothing to say officially while there,so who's padding the Liberal wallet to send him there?
So, the headline should read, Mr. Dion spews jet fuel to go to Bali to say "HI" and save the Earth from certain ruin by Harper and Baird.

God in Heaven, how have we come to this in the Canada of 2007?

Steve: Your desperation is showing.

FYI we have the smartest, Straightest Arrow Prime Minister in memory. I shudder to think what we'd look like globally with the likes of marble mouth Dion representing us. Give your head a shake.
It's time to put the country ahead of inane political ambition, something the Liberals are not capable of doing. They've proved it over the past decade.

Right on Liz!!

When ever I think what's wrong with this country, two words come to mind: f***in Liberals.

Since Liz and LEDA failed to read all of my comments I'll quote from above.

Steve said:

"As for someone else ("Zip") who concluded that my opposition to Harper airing Canada's political laundry while on official state business abroad was tantamount to supporting the status quo in the senate: Oh how wrong you could be. I actually support an elected senate. Proportional representation in the upper house would be even better!

Just because I want my prime minister to grow up and act like a statesman doesn't mean I don't agree with what he's espousing from time to time."

and

"I don't have any particular affection for the Liberal party or any party for that matter. How you guys can be so blatantly partisan and assume all of the good guys miraculously landed in a grouping of infallible greatness called the Conservative Party of Canada, is beyond me. But hey, if being a partisan hack (aka blissful ignorance) happens to be your fancy, why should I go on judging?"

God forbid criticizing Prophet Harper who by the sounds of things is entirely incapable of making any mistakes for which he should be held accountable.

Today's ignorance is brought to you by Partisan hackery and populism; dumbing down the argument with simple diametric sides composed of good guys and bad guys: Partisan hackery and populism, get yours today!

Steve; Yeah, right, whatever.

Liz, are you having trouble comprehending the idea that someone can have political opinions and convictions without being blindly tied to a particular party? If you are, I highly recommend you try it. It's quite liberating when you can critique a political decision on its merit rather than the stripe from which it was born.

Steve, I have no problem deciding what I deem to be right. At this point in time I believe the Harper Conservative party is on the right track for the common good of this Country.
That is my right and my opinion. You are on a different track and agenda. You will not change my opinion. I wager I've been around much longer than you and know a peck about what constitutes good public policy, good government.

There is a difference between Conservatives and Liberals that isn't mentioned often. Liberals will stick with rot and corruption, defend and deny and do anything to get and retain power.
Harken back to the Mulroney years, when he was decimated to two seats in Parliament. Do you think it was ONLY Liberals who voted against him? Absolutely not, we do not reward anything we think is bad behavior.

Liz, my primary goal or "agenda" at smalldeadanimals.com has not been to change anyone's opinion. I'm more concerned with detaching people from treating political parties like sports teams; for which an allegiance often exists independent of the track record of the party or its people. It's great to support the Rider's when they're down or they make mistakes, I'm not so sure that the public should do it for politicians.

Political parties are more than capable of engaging in PR and promotional tactics, and shouldn't rely on citizens to stick up for them. Rather they should be held accountable by even those who voted for them.

I'm also trying to get people here to move beyond broad based generalizations like,

"Liberals will stick with rot and corruption, defend and deny and do anything to get and retain power."

Liz, we've seen corruption and scandals in the right and the left, pinkos and capitalists alike. Glen Clark's NDP in BC had elements of corruption, as did Divine's conservatives, as did Chretien and Martin's liberals. Corruption is not endemic to any particular party, rather its more often a systemic result of being in power (most often).

Perhaps you are older than me, but I am well versed in issues that are politics, both out of personal interest and formal education, with a specific focus in political studies and public policy analysis. I don't like to volunteer that information, because I don't contend it makes me an expert or that my opinion is more valuable than anyone else's here. At the end of the day any viewpoint has those capable of presenting a well articulated argument. So I only say it to suggest that we both may know a thing or two about what we are talking about.

I can fully appreciate that you may be happy with the general direction of the Harper government, but is your pleasure with their governance a result of relative comparison or absolute results? I'm guessing its mainly not the latter in which case there is room for critical review. Democracy benefits when we continue to up the bar rather than becoming complacent cheerleaders for our favourite political parties (not suggesting you necessarily were doing that).

Steve, at this point I've deducted your full of the old stuff.
If the Liberals were in power, you sure as hell would not be on this sight and you know it.
Maybe you should go visit Garth Turner's Brag.

It's how corruption is dealt with that matters and we know cover-ups and denials are the last refuge.
It was not well dealt with over the past decade by one specific administration.
At this point they're still trying to sling the muck with the Schreiber/Mulroney dealings over two decades ago.
That's the worst kind of desperation when they're willing to make a mockery of our country and it's government, which had no part in it, to score points.

Liz wrote:

"If the Liberals were in power, you sure as hell would not be on this sight and you know it."

Not true at all, prior to spending my time here I was highly active on American conservative message boards and still am to an extent. Quite honestly, I'm from Saskatchewan, but I hadn't heard of SDA until about three or four months ago. I like having my views challenged and trying to understand where people with different political convictions than myself are coming from. Left, right or whatever, I think there's some common desires in humans, at least those of common or similar cultures. The disagreement is on how to get there. I realize that the less adversarial nature of my political beliefs and tone may make it less enticing and/or exciting to follow. After all, some people seem to need answers of what's right and wrong, who's good, who's bad. Religion is a case in point. Unknowns are undesirable for many. To some its probably therapeutic to get reved up and point fingers a the antithesis of their ideal and then turn to the hero/heroine who can deliver their desires, but usually life just isn't that simple. There are some objective truths amidst it all, but often not on the plain of what most partisans espouse. You can find merits and drawbacks in most political ideologies/belief systems and in practice its usually the same thing.

So I'm in no way sticking up for the Liberals and the sponsorship scandal. An inability to control some bad apples in their ranks lead to their downfall and they got what they deserved. Making a generalization though, about them or any other party is tantamount to positing conspiracy theories. I would surmise that if Harper's government manages to stick around for a decade or more, scandals will begin to be unearthed. Government's and political parties are big bloated entities. Even if Harper were Stalin he wouldn't and won't be able to prevent someone from screwing up eventually. It's just the nature of the system and the odds are greater that it will happen the longer a party is in office.

And as for the Mulroney thing. Yeah, I agree with you. I'm totally convinced that it has everything to do with the NDP and the Liberals playing partisan politics in an effort to embarrass the Harper government. That's obvious. Maybe there's an announce of merit in it, but that's not their motivation at all. That said, I'm not so blind as to not acknowledge that the conservative party would be doing something of a similar nature if they were in the same circumstances. These things are the nature of politics. Perhaps I'm younger than you, but I learnt a long time ago that its futile for political parties to claim a moral high ground. Politicians are not inherently corrupt. Most are hard working people who have a sincere desire to create better government, but each party has its exceptions and this tends to surface in a party with time.

I can tell you don't really like what I have to say, but I think its fairly spot on in terms of my general thesis which suggests that party behaviour from an ethics stand point is usually just the same sh *t in a different pile from one place to the other. It's the nature of the system. There are exceptions, but overall it happens everywhere.