Nice Buck!! Congrats

He's a beaut!! Nice shooting!

HoHoHo -- Merry Christmas !!

Santa and Rudolph had a falling out....

kate....you're awesome lol...

That's one Big Dead Animal...

Kate, He's nicer than the buck I got...with my truck last week.......I hate getting them that way, your way is better! Good shooting girl!

Before anyone gets too congratulatory, I did not shoot this one. (I did hit a doe the first morning, but she eluded us despite 3 hours of tracking.)

But as far as this buck goes - I pushed about 10 miles of bush over 2 days, had it in my sights at one point but held off as I didn't have a clear line of fire, and helped drag the SOB out of the bush. And it wears my tag. I think I earned the right to claim at least part of the credit. :)

The look on that deer's face is familiar .......oh yeah Lorne Calvert. Excellent metaphor for the political landscape .....except the deer should be wearing the red suit.
Many more good shots Kate.

Nice fashion statement. You probably have those flatlander lads drooling with that red skidoo suit ;-)
Seriously, since that buck probably doesn't do auto body work, I'm sure he will be of more use on the dinner table.

Your dogs will love it and get really big and strong -;)

Yup. Nothing turns heads quite like multiple layers of fleece and a red touque.

He's giving me the evil eye ... there's a UFO in the top right of the picture ... what red toque?

The picture caption should have been"largedeadanimals"

Ah Kate - you are my husband"s fantasy wife!! I just cannot live up to the standards you have set.

Nothing like barbied venison steaks on New Years Day. Nice buck.

Dinner at Kate's!!!

RG

uh oh women! with guns ! in our bush ! in canada! ey yi yi !

...blame it on global warming.

Deer jerky! Yumm. Great job Kate, never let it be said that it's all about the kill, I've pushed bush and had a heck of a time without firing a shot. (yes I know my name is Hunter, but last time I tried hunting I landed on my butt, and I can still see the rifle's recoil mark in my shoulder 20 years later.)

You are breaking ground for us females. It's now cool to hunt, kill your own food, and wear red, supporting our troops, all in one fell swoop! (Now if my brother would have just told me to hold the gun TIGHT to my shoulder, I might try hunting again.)

I question the timing . Mine was Wednesday morning 8:15 ish , narrower , but taller . And yes is sucks having to drag them back to the truck ( damn near a thousand yards , in my case ). Nice deer , good job . Next season , teach Shaidle how to gut one .... don't let her shoot one , unless , of course it's breaking into her house .

That would be "payback" for ... what, the deer turds on your front lawn? C'mon kate, you jacker of deer, payback for what?

Now, now. To be a fantasy wife you have to gut, hang, skin and de-bone that sucker. Extra points for having a sausage grinder and a supply of tubes on hand.

Nice typical rack on that one. You've made a dozen animal activists across the country faint, Kate. :)

There's an idea for a thread , hunting pics !

Keith ,
Click on the asterix ..... kind of a recurring theme 'round here .

Keith Talent,

The * under the pic is a link

A. Cooper: "To be a fantasy wife you have to ..."

I'm assuming that you left out the part about her helping you finish a crock of whiskey and throwing the empty bottle into the gut pile because, it's like, a given tradition.

Nice rack.

Rudolf is a Reindeer.

Reindeer however are "OUT OF SEASON"!!!

Christmas preparations are under way, so check your fire!

BTW nice Christmas suit.

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

oh-oh..is PETA watching????

I'm assuming that you left out the part about her helping you finish a crock of whiskey and throwing the empty bottle into the gut pile because, it's like, a given tradition.

ural , the first rule of hunt club .....

"Nice rack."

Yeah, and the buck looks pretty damn fine, too. :-)

Great shot - goes good with toppling the NDP!

BRAVO!! CHEERS!! AND HAPPY YANKEE THANKSGIVING!!

SUH-weeeet! That's a beauty!

Better looking than the doe that ran out in front of me tonight. There's so many around here they've grazed the woods bare, and they're starting to get kinda scrawny.

Waaah!

She killed Bambi!

/Well, somebody had to say it.

Better to get them before they get you. I used to work with a girl who went berserk when one of the guys on our crew aimed for and hit a gopher. Everyone one defended him and had multiple stories about the damage they do to livestock and people. Didn't make a difference, she quit soon after.

And with a bow (if I correctly spy an arrow through his neck). Nice job indeed.

A bow? Hell, no. I had a Savage 30-30 bolt action, my partner a newer .308 with a scope.

Kate, you are really cool.

That thing you are holding up in the truck looks a lot like Stephane Dion with antlers.

Here we go again, glorifying the death of animals...

Am I the only conservative leaning person who thinks this is ridiculous and just a bit old fashioned?

Nice one guys!

Yum, oh boy, just love deer roast.
Tonight we had rain deer in the fondue, and the shrimp were the dessert.
Done in peanut oil, the meat (just cubed) is very tasty and the shrimp well, it's just so good.

Sort of my bastardized version of 'surf & turf'.
;)
Be interesting to try moose meat, this way.

And to follow on from my previous post...

Can someone explain to me what glory there is in celebrating the killing of an animal? I just don't get it.

I'm happy to put a good steak on the grill, but at the same time I don't prance around celebrating the fact that some poor cow lost his life in the process.

To each his own I suppose, but I've never understood this notion that killing an animal could make someone beam with pride.

Lived in Africa years ago, and Americans and Germans used to come along and think it was cool to poach lions, elephants, etc. It seemed so utterly absurd to kill those magnificent animals just so that some man could get a high and feel he was important.

Are you married?

Very nice Kate.
I regret that I've never been hunting yet.

As to the glorifying the death of animals, this is just as beautiful and natural as the hunting done by native Canadians or native Americans. Our hunting culture needs to be respected as well.

TJ, No cow ever lost "his" life in any process. As for the deer, if somebody doesn't shoot some of them we'll soon be overrun by the little buggers. They're the best speed cops ever, at least at night. Around here, between the deer and the moose it's worth your life to drive too fast after dark.

Wonder what that rack would look like on the gopher.

Er, TJ: being "old fashioned" kinda IS the very definition of conservative...

And I doubt even the krauts you encountered ATE those elephants, although I wouldn't put it past the buggers.

[quote]Here we go again, glorifying the death of animals...

Am I the only conservative leaning person who thinks this is ridiculous and just a bit old fashioned?[/quote]

No you're just liberalized and out of touch with your inner self.

tsk tsk.

"Here we go again, glorifying the death of animals...

Am I the only conservative leaning person who thinks this is ridiculous and just a bit old fashioned?"

No, you're just liberalized and out of touch with your inner self.

tsk tsk.

Love the smile on your face. That's what happiness looks like.

Bragging about the unnecessary killing of innocent animals is a bit depressing,obviously showing a slight decline in evolution.I hope you are aware that the cruelty exhibited by chretiens kind is spreading.
If you don't soon start showing a respect for living life you aren't going to like what the little (now) kids will be doing to you,once they reach the age of freedom,with only the youthful memories of taser,shoot,beat,intolerance,pepper spray.It always amazed me how the critics of the hitler types,showed the same signs and naturally pass it on to their kids.
Imagine!,just the other day,a celebrated picture of a obviouly failed primeminister,and failed human,with his chokehold image proudly displayed across canada.

Exactly, the bear. The sad fact is, many so-called Canadian conservatives are really just liberals who want lower taxes. They really have no feel for the culture of conservativism. They think being anti-Political Correctness is enough of a qualification, when all that indicates is that they aren't totally brain dead.

Its called DIVERSITY, TJ. See, not -everyone- shares your feelings about shooting animals. Some people -like- hunting.

Be a little more celebrational with the diversity thing there eh? We might have to call the CHRC and have them ban you from the internet.

nice truck - wouldn't be for sale by chance?

I used to do a little hunting (just partridge)when I was a kid. I loved "the hunt" but never cared too much about "the killing" or the eating (what little I've tasted of game is too gamey for my tastes).

I think the hunt evokes long lost primal hunting instincts and the killing evokes other primal instincts.

TJ, this is the way of life on this planet. There are predators and there are prey. The prey consume the vegetation and breed a lot...and the predators hunt and kill the prey. If it weren't for a human with a rifle, the deer would be hunted by wolves...or by Chevrolets...or slowly die of nalnutrition...or, likely rarely, live in a utopian dream existence.

You don't have to like it...but, to each his/her own, though, eh? I can't understand why anyone would waste their time listening to RAP...you can't understand why people hunt. You need to be more "tolerant", son. ;)

A Cooper: "To be a fantasy wife you have to gut, hang, skin and de-bone that sucker..."

Isn't this what Kate does to the disloyal Opposition in this country day after day? The buck's a nice trophy, but Kate's catching the Dippers and Libranos in the headlights is even more deserving of credit, IMO.

Either way, Kate's a force to be reckoned with!

Bon Appetit, Kate!

Tj the deer at least had a chance to elude the hunters and most likely was killed instantly.Have you ever been to a kill floor of a meat processing plant for pork and beef.If not go to one and ill bet you will end up a vegatarian lol.I can tell you if you would like to know how they die and it isnt instantly.Kate what was the dressed weight of your deer.

Just to make it a little interesting give deer guns so they can shoot back. Then I'm not sure that smile would be quite so wide.

I realize that deer would die of starvation or vehicular mishaps.

It's just the look on deer hunters faces after taking a life that gets me...No bravery, no skills, shoot a defenseless animal then stupid bravado...tracked it for 10 miles...gimme a break!

Ural,

Gut pile? That's left in the field for the magpies. Besides, no such discerning tastes here; a case of Pilsner, properly chilled, would suffice.

BATB,

Agreed. Wouldn't want to be caught in our host's sights in either case.

Good grief. I (and others here) could try to explain that hunting is a right of passage in some families; that it is a tradition handed down like an heirloom; that to some of our granparents generation, it was the only meat to make the dinner table at all. But most of you squeemish quislings have never even held a rifle in your hand, and think that meat in it's natural form comes from a styrofoam tray.

By all means, let's give the deer guns. We can then change the name from "hunting" to "a Toronto Saturday night".

Liberal Ron,

You may want to take a look at your leather shoes, jacket and belt and explain the situation to me again!

Can you post anther picture with the deer AND the gun ?

"It's just the look on deer hunters faces after taking a life that gets me...No bravery, no skills, shoot a defenseless animal then stupid bravado...tracked it for 10 miles...gimme a break!"

Baby......

Security

"defenceless" ?

umm.....they have legs you know.

HEY LIEBERAL RON,read my first post.

HEY LIEBERAL RON,read my first post.

Cherie,

You can do better than that.

My jacket is canvas, belt is pleather and shoes are rubber/composite.

Unlike some of you, my work as a refrigeration engineer has taken me to the kill floor of many abatoirs. Believe me, nobody is smiling and I doubt if much pleasure is derived from the process.

BTW, I don't eat red meat...the only reson being is it impacts the colon and is not necessary for a healthy long life. When friends or family come over I'll gladly BBQ steaks and chops for them.

"Just to make it a little interesting give deer guns so they can shoot back. Then I'm not sure that smile would be quite so wide."

No,the smiles would be grim, and we'd organize something we like to call "war".

We'd exterminate the dangerous pests.

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Santa Kate! I like the look.

Want some Venison recipes?

Congrats...nice 4pointer...is this the first?

Ralph,

Which one? I'm seeing double.

Kate,

You're welcome to come out to my strawberry farm any time and shoot all the deer you want. We're overrun with them, and they're chomping away at my plants like there's no tomorrow.

BTW Sorry about the missed Doe...it really hurts to have an animal get away ..particularly a wounded one...tears your heart out...enforces the importance of a one shot kill....either more gun, closer shots or a better scope.

No missed shot next year..Ya hear! ;-)

Whoa, looks like winter up there; doncha have any global warming in the 'hood?

TJ: The only "American" I know that went to Africa to shoot animals was a Catholic priest from Connecticut, who stayed on there for better than thirty years tending to the souls (and hungry bellies) of his parishioners.

Seems TJ needs a few weeks out on Uncle Ted (Nugent's) farm to "man-up" ...frick, don't you think this whiney, feminized sensitive 90s guy BS is a tad passe'?

We're over run with white tails most places in Saskatchewan - they're like jackrabbits. We were down in the southeast, and probably saw upwards of 20 that day in the 3 square mile area. Most of them running. If you think it's easy to sneak up on a white tail through stubble, thick bush and deadfall, you ought to try it sometime. I got 5 shots away in two days, my hunting partner 7. Two bucks to show for it.

But trust the bleeding hearts to see someone "glorifying" the killing of a "defenseless" animal, or (and this is a new one) - sniff that someone should "give the deer a gun". Sure, give the deer a gun. If he can get his little hooves inside the trigger guard, more power to him.

I see someone celebrating hard work, skill, and meat on the table. And this particular buck saw a more humane ending than any of the 50 or so carcasses in the ditch south of Saskatoon.

HEY LIBERAL RON. I don't care. Give deer all the rifles they want. They don't have opposable thumbs so they couldn't even load the rifles let alone shoot them. You lefties are hilarious.

Oh Yeah. And congrats to Dianna, the Huntress.

I think Liberal Ron led a sheltered existence and compensates with a form of fraudulent moral exhibitionism that hides his phobias ( you kanow what Freud said about fear of guns)...typical maladjusted twink...too many interesting and real people in the world to talk about other than some xenophobe wallowing in self validation therapies...on to someone interesting....

>>>so Kate...how far was the shot on that buck?, what cartridge was the rifle chambered for? and how much usable meat did you lose in the wound channel?

Be weel slow an sneak up on dat waskally wabbit... /appologies to Mr. Fudd/

Defenceless animals? Ever do a tree dance with a buck during rut? I have and he didn't look to defenceless to me then. But I did manage to get off a shot or two but my Nikon 35mm didn't seem to scare him off.
The smile with your catch is the pride of accomplishment, part of the old culture of putting food on one's table. contrairy to popular belief, the critters don't just stand there all lined up waiting for hunters. Heck, i've seen elk move on to National Park land when hunting season starts down by Waterton.

btw, I don't consider hunting for trophys real hunting unless you can eat it or it is trying to kill you. As for eating an elephant, probably not because I'd more than likely hurt myself putting it on the BBQ.

Those who feel it's wrong to glorify success at hunting will, I trust, also scream loudly at sports celebrities who boast of their achievements, actors/actresses who win Oscars, Emmys, Obies, etc., politicians who get elected, garbage collectors who manage to get the trash into their trucks - in fact, anyone who achieves success of any kind.

It's not about glorifying animal death - it's about having embarked on a successful hunt.

And, deer are becoming a REAL nuisance. I grew up in the Rochester, NY area - where all of Bambi's millions of grandsons/granddaughters are roaming in the suburbs. They eat the bushes next to your front door, wander into your garage, fall in pools, run in front of cars (killing people all too often) - all because **hunters** are an endangered species, thanks to folks who fail to understand that it's OK to keep animal populations under control - especially when we've done away with natural predators; wolves, bears, etc.

Kate - nicely done!!! Enjoy (yum yum!)

Kate: "...over run with white tails..."

Ditto that.
The bleeding hearts can be ignorant hippocrits sometimes.
A couple of years ago, on New Years Day, I was laying in bed with a nasty cold. I heard the unique, chattering howl of a loaded 18-wheeler with the brakes locked up, followed a few minutes later by my wife telling me a big deer just hobbled through the yard on 3 legs. (We live a few hundred yards from the highway)
What does an insensitive conservative do? Haul my ass out of bed, dress, gather up the .303, track the thing through the fields and bush and put it out of its misery.
With the thanks, I might add, of the provincial game wardens.
And I haven't hunted in years.
Every deer a hunter takes around here is one less damaged car or killed/hurt driver.
I will also not apologize for being a member of the dominant species on this planet. I like it that way.
Hunters are by far the most responsible wardens of our natural environment. The loss of this traditional sport will cause a lot more damage to both the deer and us. Utopians need to understand that.

Nice buck Kate. Saskatchewan farmland whitey. Now them's good eating.

Back when I lived in Southwestern Saskatchewan I hunted on a friend's land. He had so many whitetails there that they lined up with the cattle to eat silage out of the troughs. They were devastating his bale stacks, and costing him money. The government issued him depredation tags, and a buddy and I scored 4 of them. Those, along with our two general tags were duly filled that fall. My wife and I were newly married, and didn't have the proverbial pot or window. But we had lots of meat, and we did not starve. To this day, when my wife sees me bring a deer or an elk home, she is happy that she married a provider who is not afraid to get his hands dirty.

And yeah, I feel good because of it. No apologies. You can't understand it if you don't understand it. I'm guessing that slipping out for a couple of late night to go lattes doesn't quite compare.

"Just to make it a little interesting give deer guns so they can shoot back."

We tried to give the Liberals guns, but they don't want them. Which means that it's actually more challenging to hunt deer.

Nicely said Karl,

There is pride at being a provider, pride of accomplishment, and pride of self.

No one can take that away unless you let them.

But wearing pleather, like Liberal Ron, man the carbon imprint and environmental damage caused by such a fashion statement. That is so liberal.

Oops. Remind me never to accidentally stroll through the woods near you

;)

Security why are you here, I think you would be happier somewhere else celebrating trangendered diversity at a peta website?

WL Mackenzie Retread,

I think if our posts were both evaluated by an independent panel (non SDA sock puppet conbats). They would conclude that your posts are the ones that are xenophobic in nature.

Carry on though, your foot-in-mouth ramblings are both entertaining and revealing.

"conbats"

Heh. Proof once again that leftards have zero imagination. And their feeble minded attempts to insult make no sense whatsoever.

The 'Liberal' part of Ron's chosen moniker is already a pejorative and hardly needs further insult.

Cherie,

Pride is one of the seven deadly sins.

Do you really think taking life should fill one with pride?

What about, thou shalt not kill.

But trust the bleeding hearts to see someone "glorifying" the killing of a "defenseless" animal, or (and this is a new one) - sniff that someone should "give the deer a gun". Sure, give the deer a gun. If he can get his little hooves inside the trigger guard, more power to him.

I see someone celebrating hard work, skill, and meat on the table. And this particular buck saw a more humane ending than any of the 50 or so carcasses in the ditch south of Saskatoon.

True enough.

In the Netherlands, hunting is normally illegal, but it was (still is?) legal right now to hunt for wild hogs. They're out of control. I believe there's place, in a certain part, for 500 of them, there are 5,000.

They're destroying everything.

So Dutch hunters are allowed to shoot 90% of them, for if they (we) don't, they'll ruin nature and push other animals into extinction.

For those who wonder: most hunters are actually more fond of nature than most non-hunters who cry when an animal gets shot.

Irwin,

No insult intended, but interesting to see that you relate to it.

Posted by: Kate at November 22, 2007 11:44 PM

"Hell, no. I had a Savage 30-30 bolt action,..."

Nice firearm. Accurate, low recoil, very effective to 150 yards, unless you strech that with handloads.

Damn. You wouldn't believe how long I have been waiting to find a good used Savage bolt 30-30 on the used market around here. Fine, rifle in my favorite cartridge. People who have them tend to hold on to them.

Sold off my deer rifles when I had to give up the hunt, but held on to my Winchester Centennial Model 94 in 30 WCF. Still want (need?!?) that Savage though... :-)

Nice finish to the hunt. Congrats.

Deer around here are absolutely destroying the yard, cleaning out the bird feeders every night, and hoovering up the recently planted winter wheat in the south and east fields. Last night there were 12 in the yard. We need an intensive doe season here. Auto-deer accidents are epidemic in this county the last 5 years. Contrary to local reports the wolf population hasn't began to dent the whitetail numbers.

"Pleather". Ya, right, L. Ron. And Kate's deer was actually made of tofu. Caught being hypocritical, eh?

Far be it for me to interperet scripture and the ten commandments, lib ron, but I do believe "What about, thou shalt not kill." doesn't refer to the future food on your plate, gophers, mosquitos, rats, cockroaches and the like. Remember tofu was once a living thing (sort of).

"What about, thou shalt not kill."

I assume you are referring to the Sixth Commandment (Exodus 20:13) as rendered in the King James Version. The Hebrew word should more accurately be translated "murder", and is in most recent translations, e.g.
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020:13;&version=51;

"Thou shalt not kill." Is there anyone who believes that what they meant is "thou shalt not kill animals"?

Have you even read the Old Testament? They sacrificed animals for God. They hunted. That's how they got their meat.

Thou shalt not kill means: "Thou shalt not murder a human being."

Lib Ron, I can not thank you enough for helping state my point.

"There is pride at being a provider, pride of accomplishment, and pride of self. No one can take that away unless you let them."

The old church that created the Seven Deadly sins, used those sins to stop freedom of thought. They wanted people to only fear the church and its teachings. They taught pride was a sin, so the church would remain powerful.

...things you see without a bazooka...

Joseph Campbell said that vegetarians were people who liked to eat things that couldn't run from them.

Nice buck. It was hard to tell, but it looked like 6 or 8 points.

I guess that blows the Liberal theory that all right wing female bloggers are fat, ugly, and sit in front of the TV eating popcorn all night!!

Cherie,

Your welcome. (no sarcasm intended)

Michael,

I've never read the old testament and don't care to. All I know is back then they had to hunt to survive, I also know that there was a certain amount of respect from the hunter toward its prey.

Today its about strawberries, bird seed, wheat and automobiles...essentially selfishness.

I haven't posted in awhile and see that there is now a 'Cherie'. Just to clarify it's not a mistake.
BTW, I agree with her on the pride of being a provider. We are a family of hunters. Even my daughter goes with her Dad and brothers.

Ron,
Here's a thought. If you've never read the Old Testament and don't care to, then maybe you should refrain from quoting it (inaccurately) to bolster your silly argument.

Anyway, I for one am going to stop feeding venison to this troll. waste of good meat.

Karl,

If you did your research you would know that the 7 Deadly Sins as a concept were borrowed (stolen) from ancient Greek philosophy by early Christians.

What's your personal value system based on?

Both bucks had very little meat damage. The first was shot through the spine, (and put down shortly afterwards.) Entry wound on the larger buck was dead center at the base of the throat, into the heart and exiting out the rib cage. Dressed weight for the two was 91kg.(200 lbs) The larger buck was probably 20% heavier than the yearling.

Ron,

Yes, it is selfish to care about the fact that the deer population has grown so large that they are eating up my strawberry plants. So what? I don't regard rational selfishness as a vice.

These deer are costing me a great deal of money. I make no apologies about my reluctance to sacrifice my livelihood for the sake of our furry friends. Not to mention the road hazard they present. I suppose that a true altruist wouldn't mind if a deer makes its way into the car via your windshield though.

I've invited every hunter in the neighborhood to hunt at my farm. So far they've bagged four of these pests.

Dennis,

You have every right to protect the interest of your farm and the hunt is perfectly legal.

The truth is that I am a liberal at heart but usually vote Conservative because Liberals while being well meaning usually let their emotions get in the way of good decision making.

Someone has to play devil's advocate here or the discussion threads would run like excerpts from the Bobby Bitman Show.

Look all I asked is this: why do some people glorify the killing of animals?

It's amazing how some folks can get so unbelievably sensitive about that question.

It's a fair question, and so far I have not heard one sensible answer.

If I find a coyote on my farm eating my chickens I'll shoot it if I have to, but that doesn't mean I celebrate its death.

Why do some people feel the need to celebrate the death of animals?

I'm intrigued that the only response that people can come up with is that I'm not a real conservative.

I'm not a fan of hunting for myself. I like animals and often go out with camera rather than gun.

Unlike leftards though, I notice that a large portion of the people who are the most interested in conservation are meat-eating, rifle-carrying hunters. You can't go into the field to hunt if there are no fields and no game.

Ducks Unlimited is a conservation group started and funded by hunters and unlike poseurs like Greenpeace, they actually help the environment. They do so because they use their money to act instead of using their money to travel and hang about demanding the government "DO SOMETHING!" with other people's money. Conservatives get it done, leftards demand other people do the doing.

As for hunting, each to their own - shaidle's foolish comment notwithstanding.

"Today its about strawberries, bird seed, wheat and automobiles...essentially selfishness."

For your information, hunters actually often provide a service. If they didn't do what they do, more often than not nature would have a problem.

Canadians, unlike Europeans, can own long guns and can go hunting. That's one of the reasons our forebears left the Old World, where only the landowners could hunt and it was worth a man's life to poach the laird's deer.

John,

I've often felt the reason the Eurotrash continent is in such a mess is that the good Europeans are all in the new world.

My husband grew up on a farm - they raised beef and grew wheat, oats, barley, etc., etc., but he never tasted beef until he left home. They shot many a deer and that is what they ate. Deer makes darn good sausage, even without pork added.

You can buy deer horns for under ten bucks at Canadian Tire that stick onto the front bumper of vehicles; I guess the deer can hear the sound of the air going through the little gadget and it frightens them from the roadway. It seems to work for me - knock on wood.

Hey TJ. We glorify the death of whatever we are hunting because we were successful at our endeavor. I'm proud as hell to put good meat on the table for my family and it will show in my big smiling face as I pose with my kill. I have never met a hunter yet that doesn't have respect for these animals. However, when It's hunting season we are eager to kill one of them. The rest of the year we are as happy as anyone to see them in their natural habitat.
The tone in your responses is so very typical of someone that really hasn't any clue about what hunting is all about. It seems to me your real motivation in these responses is to try to establish some sort of moral superiority. I have found that those people with a shakey moral compass are the first to look down their noses at others around them.
Liberal Ron on the other hand just sounds like a angry little collectivist. Hell, I don't even need to remove my cowboy hat to deal with guys like that. Them poor little non-meat commies fall right over just by looking at them wrong.

One thing is for sure. The Dodge Ram tells me you couldn't have chased him!! You got him legally!! Now if that was an F-150.....

Posted by: Liberal Ron at November 23, 2007 2:19 PM

"Someone has to play devil's advocate here or the discussion threads would run like excerpts from the Bobby Bitman Show."

Translation: I'm out of ammo and my tail is shot off, so I'd better bail out and claim I was just practicing my marksmanship.

Posted by: Joanne at November 23, 2007 3:23 PM

"You can buy deer horns for under ten bucks at Canadian Tire that stick onto the front bumper of vehicles; I guess the deer can hear the sound of the air going through the little gadget and it frightens them from the roadway. It seems to work for me - knock on wood."

Called deer whistles here. Were big for a while back about 15 years ago, till the deer got used to hearing them.

I'll always remember the fellow I worked with who liked to brag that he had driven for 40 years in deer country and had never hit a deer. When they came on the market he bought a pair, installed them, and promptly hit a deer two days later on the way to work. True story.

One of my last National Geographics had an article about hunting in North America. They mentioned that if it weren't for hunting, some bird species would not survive. I thought NG would have been one mag that wouldn't like hunters, but not so.

TJ, your question is rather misleading and within the context of the original post, rather inflamatory. A picture of Kate with the results of a sucessful hunt and the fact that she is smiling has somehow turned into Killer Kate is taking pride (or some other deadly sin as claimed by someone who hasn't even read a bible) in the killing of Bambi. Man was and still is a "hunter-gatherer" and the instinct runs deep in some. To be able to put food on the table with your own hands is something to be proud of. True, back in the day not everyone was a hunter but you can be sure that the blacksmith got some of his pay in venison, bushel of wheat, or some fresh pickeral fillets (mmmm).

Remember too that we are at the top of the food chain for a reason.

Warren the argument you make, "I have never met a hunter yet that doesn't have respect for these animals.", I can believe.

But holding the dead animal up and smiling about, reveling in its death, seems to cancel out any respect that you might have had for it prior to hunting season.

I suppose I'll never fully understand it.

I can say that when we lived in Africa it used to piss us off no end when people would want to hunt a lion (usually illegally) simply so that they could have a picture with the dead animal to show their friends. Bragging rights is essentially what is was all about.

As for those who imply that only "real" conservatives enjoying shooting animals, all I can say is keep that narrow-minded hillbilly attitude up and we'll get stuck with the bloody Liberals again.

Yoopie tee Doo,

"Translation: I'm out of ammo and my tail is shot off, so I'd better bail out and claim I was just practicing my marksmanship."

Reality...you've made a potential fatal error, as any of the brave men and women battling the axis will tell you, never assume they're out of ammo.

This will get those animal rights wackos from PETA upset and this will also upset dumb bell groups like FREINDS OF ANIMALS,HUMANE SOCIETY,DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE,COMMITY to ABOLISH SPORT HUNTING, and those various nit wits from hollywood. AND BUNNIES DONT LIKE BUNNY HUGGERS BECUASE THEY SQUEEZE THEIR BREATH OUT

"nice truck - wouldn't be for sale by chance?

Posted by: Chris in Ontario at November 23, 2007 7:07 AM"

I have a 91 Dodge Ram here in Ontario for sale
;-)

TJ: " ... hunt a lion (usually illegally) ..."

We use a loophole to trophy hunt lions in Canada.

TJ, can you understand why someone beams happily when they've scored a touchdown? Or when they've hit a home run? Or when they came from love-40 down to win? Or hit a hole in one? Or climbed a mountain? Or solved a puzzle?

Hunters hunt and it can be a tough go. They battle the weather, the terrain, the bugs and they cunningly track their prey. They finally get their shot and bag a beauty! They were successful! Hurray! Why would they frown? Why wouldn't they smile?

The answer is pretty obvious...so I suspect that you're just looking down your nose in some presumed morally superior way. Be sure not to tell us anything about your life or beliefs, though...you'd not like one of us looking down our noses at you and your beliefs, now would you?!

I love Spurwing Plover.

Over the years we've been bemused looking at the magazine stand.

Nowadays magazines directed at enjoyment of the outdoors and the wild are divided into two camps.

On the one hand there are the old magazines like Field and Stream, and Outdoor Life, that are largely directed at hunting and fishing. And naturally everyone has guns and brings them into the field for hunting or protection or both.

Then there are magazines like Backpacker and others that have all of these people out there devoted to hiking, climbing mountains, and what have you, and they assiduously avoid caring guns at any time.

I think all of this is nuts.

Back in the day, there was no division between people who wanted to backpack and people who wanted to hunt. Sometimes one would be there for hunting and fishing, and sometimes one would be there for backpacking.

One almost always carried a gun, simply as defense against predators, to fire a warning shot, or a shot of distress. There were even "kit" guns that were just thought of as an ordinary part of gear along with a knife, canteen, and so forth.

And often someone who had no intention of fishing would tuck some line and a few hooks into the pack just in the event someone happened on a miraculous fishing hole or found it convenient to fish for a few meals.

Obviously, the urbanization of our cultures has created a whole huge species of citizen who just has no earthly idea of what it can be like on an autumn morning to wander around shooting crabapples of a tree with a new .22.

From my point of few, all of these activities are completely integrated, and I find the division between these various groups completely contrived, artificial, and meaningless.

I love reading your blog. I notice you ride bikes,which I love and now you hunt too. I screamed at the radio as well "You don't speak for me!!"
Best Regards
Dan

TJ, your question is rather misleading and within the context of the original post, rather inflamatory. A picture of Kate with the results of a sucessful hunt and the fact that she is smiling has somehow turned into Killer Kate is taking pride (or some other deadly sin as claimed by someone who hasn't even read a bible) in the killing of Bambi. Man was and still is a "hunter-gatherer" and the instinct runs deep in some. To be able to put food on the table with your own hands is something to be proud of. True, back in the day not everyone was a hunter but you can be sure that the blacksmith got some of his pay in venison, bushel of wheat, or some fresh pickeral fillets (mmmm).

For what it's worth: Kate - at least - has the courage to kill the animal she eats. Most people are moral cowards: they buy meat in the supermarket but don't want to know how the meat got there in the first place.

Also: it's far more humane to kill an animal in the wild the way Kate did, then to keep it inside, stuff it with food until its big enough to be killed.

The Liberal Ron thing spits and hisses:

"I think if our posts were both evaluated by an independent panel (non SDA sock puppet conbats). They would conclude that your posts are the ones that are xenophobic in nature."

Meh...it wasn't me that suggested that humans be killed rather than game animals...add anti-human and sociopathic to your xenophobic list of frothing.

Please forgive me for being an old school marm: But, how come this thread seems to be more about Liberal Ron than Kate's original post?

Don't feed the squirrels. They just keep coming back, and they steal food from other, more deserving, critters.

Batb....you nailed it....darn thieving squirrels.Let the troll starve on its tofu.

Didnt you win some sort of wierd poll?

Kate:

You are now my 4 1/2 year old's (who is aptly named Hunter) hero.

Hunter: Holy - can we go see her?

Dad: Maybe.

Hunter: She shot the gopher and the deer. I knew the gopher wasn't sleeping.

Dad: Yes she did.

Hunter: When are they going to carve the deer, Dad.

Dad: After it hangs for awhile, Hunter.

Hunter: Is it a DP deer Dad.

Dad: I don't understand, Hunter.

Hunter: You know - an election deer...

my sides still hurt...out of the mouths of children.

One government brought down, Bambi converted to hamburger, and enticed a small child to the Dark Side ... my God, what a great month November turned out to be!

deja vue...this is a lot like the discussion last year when Kate hit the deer.

So for the anti-hunter crowd...just be thankful when you are tooling down the highway and there are a few less critters getting in your way.

santa??!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why kind of sick and twisted person poses with a dead moose holding it my the antelers?

you should have gone hunting with cheney.

i hope you plan to wat that whole thing, you cow.and even then, you are still a sick person for smiling while holding a dead animal.

i hope the people at the morgue treat you with the samerespect one day.

why kind of sick and twisted person poses with a dead moose holding it my the antelers?

That would be "dead miniature moose". Don't you know anything?

Jason - you are in an elite group.

Please feel free to continue choking your turkey...

Hmm, what's this? Your readers attacking me. Surprise eh! I didn't make that comment to be crowned Prom King!

Go ahead and glorify the killing of animals all ya want I would expect no less from you Conservative wastes of time. There's a big difference between eating meat and chocking a turkey.

I won't be returning, you'll be happy to know. So, good day. I can't wait until you all get caught betting on them cock fights!

I should have known better...If you didn't know the difference between a moose and a deer; how could spot the satire in choking your turkey (chicken). And that's choking not chocking.

Look it up. Its your own personal cock fight and I won't be betting on it.

It's Bushes fault -- oh, wrong thread --- but nice buck Kate! I let a nice 6 pointer go this week -- don't know why though...

Jason -- don't go!!! We need your enlightened analysis here ! Calling Jason, Jason, Jason....Here Jason, Jason, Jason. Here Jason, Jason, Jason...