National Newswatch has been pulling this sort of crap for months.

Actually, yesterday they torqued the headline of Poilievre's age of consent initiative to say "MP offers prize to teens who pimp his sexual consent petition" (italics mine), when the original MSM torqued headline was: "MP offers prize to teens who peddle his petition". NNW actually went out of their way to out-tourque the original torqued headline; why, I don't know.

What I do know is that torquing it to say "pimp" instead of "peddle", within the context of a story dealing with age of consent and a Conserative MP, is pure expletive bullexpletive. If anything they should use their opportunity as news aggregators to de-torque torqued headlines like NealeNews did ; why aren't they doing that?

Proof that NNW said Poilievre was "pimping" to children:
64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:5C57qlH7zg4J:www.nationalnewswatch.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D22100%26Itemid%3D41+MP+offers+prize+to+teens+who+pimp+his+sexual+consent+petition&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=ca&client=firefox-a

From NNW: "NNW Headline Policy: Post Headlines Exactly as published by the source. Only edit for length, possible legal issues..."

Well that's a lie and I just proved it, see above comment.

I've noticed more and more stories from the Star on National Newswatch lately. They really seem to zeroing in on the Mulroney thing along with the usual Harper bashing. Perhaps they could also light the torch on the Chretien Shawinigate scandals among other things?

This is the news article I am referring to in my first comment, notice how NNW tourques the headline to actually make it longer and more libellous:

www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2007/11/08/ot-petition-071108.html

What do you expect from the Toronto Pravda ?????

Am I missing something here??!!!

I haven't been able to find NNW for a couple of days now.

This is all I get.

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I have never found that NNW ever does this sort of thing. However, the Toronto Star and the CBC do this sort of thing all the time.

NNW has emerged since its inception to become a serious internet news aggregator.
However as I stated early in their emergence, no principals of the blog were ever identified, at least to my knowledge.
Headlines in newspapers are notorious for reader suasion ( handy for short attention span ) and one begins to suspect that NNW are using a similar tactic.
Let's now begin urge the principals operating NNW become known, lest they lose their credibility as merely an adjunct / appendage of some leftist MSM in Canada.

It’s not National News Watch – it’s The Star.

I saw this on the subway this morning. Someone was reading that disgraceful newspaper and that’s where I first saw the headline. No scare quotes around what PMPM “said” because he didn’t say it.

The paper had an inset that explained why the words were chosen – something about them mimicking what was done in relation to an event in the U.S. decades ago – sorry, couldn’t see well enough to see what exactly was written.

And they wonder why people don’t buy their fish-wrap.

"...no principals of the blog were ever identified, at least to my knowledge..."

That piqued my curiousity, so I did a "Whois" search. Their domain name is registered through "GoDaddy.com", often used by those who wish to remain anonymous. Nothing nefarious there, of course, but I find it a little strange...

Message to Red Star: stop pushing liberalism in the City of Toronto such that a conservative will never be elected in this city. Else federally this place will fall off the map.

Meanwhile, the truth is buried in a column in the back pages of the star:

(Harper speaking in Toronto yesterday)

"Here in the GTA, our government is investing nearly $1 billion in our long-term transportation action plan, including extending the Spadina subway line to the Vaughan corporate centre," he said.

"We're helping to develop parks, beaches, and trails along Toronto's waterfront, improving clinical and stroke recovery centres of excellence at St. Michael's Hospital and the Heart and Stroke Foundation Centre."

"And we're unleashing millions of dollars in support to key GTA cultural institutions by enhancing tax benefits on donationss," he said.

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The star is filth. Obviously they have no code of ethics.

gl1800 - If you work in certain public sectors, your internet access may be restricted. I know the Ontario Gov't does this to its employees. I think some of the hospitals do it too, but I can't confirm.

RG

Earth to the bird cage liner paper from Commironto:

Cities, including Miller's mega union sesspool are PROVINCIAL responsabilities first!!!

(Of course if McGuinty's Government happened to be Conservative.....)

Not sure what this fuss is about. The headline in the paper edition of the Toronto Star that was delivered this morning in the Beaches in Toronto was "PM to cities: Drop dead".

Granted this is not the same wording as what the NNW item quoted the Star as having used as a headline on the Star's website. The wording in the paper version is even more misleading--the colon followed by the upper case "D" on "Drop" is impossible to interpret as anything other than a direct quote. The headline in the NNW item is, at worse, interperable as an indirect quote and is, at least possibly, interpretable as a summary description--albeit editorially biased--of what the actually PM said.

I have a copy of that paper in my hand; it is not going anywhere.

(The headline actually caused me to read the story because I could not believe that that was what the PM actually said. It is not my usual practice to read newstories of what politicians say since I normally regard doing that as pointless. What politicians say about the world is too sparsely connected with facts to be a usable guide to reality; too rarely connected to actual theit thoughts to be a guide as to what they actually think; and normally much too meally mouthed to be a guide to their future conduct. On top of that what they actually say is then filtered through the reporter's own biases to produce a condensed version. Perhaps I should sue the Star for wasting my time, since I think it was breach of their contract with me to provide me with a newspaper containing statements by the Star designed to intentionally mislead the reader.)

Andrew: I too caught the "pimping" of the headline by NNW and emailed them on it. Its not the first time it has happened by a long shot. Unfortunately NNW has also become all harper, all negative, all the time. I find Jacks more balanced.

I'm at home on my own computer.
I haven't been able to get it for a few days now.
Was wondering if they were down?

The sooner that the feds investigate-and deal with- the Mulgooney bizness; the sooner they can jump on Jean Cruton! (I can understand Harpoon's reluctance to do this- it will be painfull for him to be forced to admit that our glorious former leaders are accountable to no one.
(That's how our federal goverments set it up for themselves).

Message to Red Star: stop pushing liberalism in the City of Toronto such that a conservative will never be elected in this city. Else federally this place will fall off the map.
Posted by: Real Conservative
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LOL. It's not the Star who is ruining the chances of the Conservative Party of Canada in Toronto. The Star is a pathetic joke that would be in banruptcy if it wasn't for their Harlequin romance business.

It's the city haters and bashers at the CPC, with an especially venomous hate for Toronto.

I'm a PC party member through every metamorphosis (PC, Reform, Alliance,CPC), and it seems pretty clear to me that the movers and shakers in the current crew take some glee in Toronto's difficulties. Endless lectures about how Toronto is fiscally irresponsible, when the fact is that the current financial crisis is largely a creation of the provincial PCs, and that the ethnic/immigrant issues are purely a creation of the Lieberals. And never mind that the murder rate per capita is far higher in Edmonton than in Toronto.

All the Toronto haters are accomplishing is to cement the Lieberal chokehold on the biggest city in Canada. Talk about shooting off your nose to spite your face.

[...awaits Toronto bashing responses. ]

Lori: I love Toronto. I did graduate work in the city and lived down town for many years. However, it has become a city that is controlled by leftists and gangs. I believe that it will go the way of many US cities before it will recover.

Why Investigate the cold money trail on Muldoom when there are still hot Skeletons in the closet from the last federal Librano syndicate?...I Bet Chretien banked 40 mil alone on conflict of interest plays.

Gotta wonder how a penniless stump lawyer from Shawinigan retires a multi millionaire on his fed salary.

I'm still waiting for Harper to prosecute the identified government crooks from the ADscam hearings and jail them...or am I the eternal optimist?

Now that Harper is calling on an independent person to look into the new accusations of the jailbird Schreiber against Mulroney, maybe he should toss in a few more investigations for Chretien and his dealings. It's still all muddified, let's clear the air on all "sides".

The Liberals are having orgasms over this, manna from Heaven in their desperate time of need.
Too bloody bad, Harper stole their thunder by doing the right thing. However, buck up for the hypocrites like Goodale, Jennings, Holland and other spewers of vitriole.

This Conservative government is new, is clean and had no part in anything that went down in the Mulroney PC era. The present Liberal party is awash in corruption and more is coming out on a regular basis.

Lori..the city of Toronto is my place of birth, and continues to be my part time home..until the leftists at city hall get their fiscal house in order, any level of govt would be foolish to give them cash..especially conservatives..why? because the lefties take fistfulls of this money and give it to the myriad leftist special interest groups, to promote as well as keep the status quo of socialism in the city.

They want their cake and to eat yours too..

Torontonians..want to see real change? vote CPC

If not, you are forever doomed to liberal politicians making promises they won't keep , because they view your vote as in the bag already..they know you will vote liberal or NDP, even if they ran a stick with bucket on top as a candidate..

Meh. I live in Toronto. My parents live in different part of Toronto. My brother and his family live in a different part of Toronto. My mother in law and her family live in a different part. Three other siblings-in-law live in other parts, in homes and in apartments.

8 different locations: no muggings, no gangs, no problems. Biggest hassle is garbage pickup.

I work in downtown Toronto. I go to my car at night, between 8 and 12 frequently. Never a problem in the last 15 years.

Yes, there are a couple of neighbourhoods I would not go at night. Tell me that ain't the same in Vancouver or Winnipeg. Hell, it's probably true in Timmins.

As for lefty politicians? Yes, of course, all cities have them. It's the nature of municipal politics. But prior to Miller, We had Mel Lastman here. He was nuts, probably senile, but he was not a leftie.

Now we are stuck with Miller, who is definitely a leftie, but that's largely because he had no credible opposition in the last election. He is vulnerable now, and a credible centre right candidate can take him down.

People point fingers and say that this is all due to our leftie councillors paying themselves too much, or keeping too many community pools open. but the bottom line problem here is downloading. It dumped 1/4 billion $ of provincial costs onto Toronto. You can close every pool, cut the pay of every councillor, eliminate every outdoor education site (whatever the hell those things are) and force all the unions into a pay freeze for the next 5 years, and that won't cover the interest on the money that has been borrowed to pay the arbitrary dumping of this cost on Toronto in the past decade.

Look, I voted for Mike Harris every time, and I
would do so again. In many ways he saved Ontario. But that goverment fu@ked Toronto good. When someone admits this, and redresses the injustice, then Toronto will be on the way back.

Way too simplistic Lori.
Liberals offloaded onto the provinces. Lefties wanted mega toronto and were going to save due to economies of scale. That did not work out. They then borrowed and borrowed to maintain all their silly programs without regard to cost. Did they not buy a theater just as they postponed the original tax hike?
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remember the days of subsidizing the toronto snow removal budget, using the armed forces?

we all got to pay for trona the good.

they built the CN tower there just to give the world something to rotate around.

Lori, the downloading cost were minimal, according to Levy of the Sun about $170 million in a budget of several billion. She outlined a minimal savings with councillor De Grande of over $400 million a year with solid easy to do items. Just cutting $5.00 of the stupid Fair Wage Act would save over $200 million. Leftist Miller was not interested as it would hurt his union buddies.

As Flaherty stated there is lots of money in Toronto's budget and the CPC is providing billions more but the socialists have their agenda and wont budge.

Toronto is filled with unions like the teachers, immigrants and every lefty group you can imagine and will stay solidly Liberal/NDP so why should Harper make any effort to help us. Its not like he will lose any seats over our bleating.

If you want to see costs escalate just watch the millions that are wasted placating the black community especially if they are given their own schools and all the expensive infrastructure that will go along with it.

Check out the G&M photo of Harper, apparently shrugging. This bunch are both hopeless and helpless.

"take some glee in Toronto's difficulties. Endless lectures about how Toronto is fiscally irresponsible, when the fact is that the current financial crisis is largely a creation of the provincial PCs, and that the ethnic/immigrant issues are purely a creation of the Lieberals. And never mind that the murder rate per capita is far higher in Edmonton than in Toronto.zzz"

B.S.

I was born and raised in Toronto. Live and work downtown. I've seen this city crushed by socialist engineers and activists. Can a socialist balance the books? Does one even know what that means?

David Miller is an idiot. John Tory helped the idiot raise money to pay off his campaign debt from his original election, cause he couldn't figure it out.

As I said, I work downtown. Last week there was a gang shootout across the street from my office where 40 bullets were fired and miraculously, only one innocent pedestrian was shot. Nobody killed.

I love Toronto. I hate the moonbat idiots that have migrated here, like Miller, and hijacked it. The bleeding hearts who find affinity with the murderers and not the victims.

"the current financial crisis is largely a creation of the provincial PCs."

Really. Where do you live and work in Toronto?

Remember Mel? The city was ok then, when Harris was in government, BTW.

Prior to that, with another socialist, Barbara Hall, it was in the toilet.

Remember Bob Rae doubling the deficit left by Liberal David Peterson, to $96 billion? What did Mike do with that? Oh, he left the current swine $6 billion.

If you're a Conservative, get your facts straight.

Nat Watch has been my home page ever since Neil News packed it in.

Kate's tip; news.google.com --- make your own aggregator with key words. Cool.

– something about them mimicking what was done in relation to an event in the U.S. decades ago – sorry, couldn’t see well enough to see what exactly was written.

It was a New York Daily News headline about Gerry Ford refusing to provide a federal guarantee for NYC bonds when the city was facing bankruptcy. The headline ran "Ford to City: Drop Dead"
It is quite a famous headline - at least among the political junkie set... I caught the allusion immediately.

Saying the city was OK with Mel here is wrong. Mel was able to borrow money to pay and hide the initial costs of downloading. He left an evolving mess behind.

But that money has to be paid back at some point, and until then it requires interest payment. And Toronto's credit line apparently is no longer available.

And if I hear the tired old phrase "economies of scale" one more time.....argh.

Fact is, it didn't pan out. You can't merge 6 different organizations and turn it into a single finely honed efficient organization in 2 years. Maybe 20. Or maybe, as is usually the case, never.

Like I said, Harris probably saved the province. But he didn't need to shaft Toronto. In the big scheme of the budget the 250 million Toronto got dumped with was not the reason Harris succeeded. It was the massive welfare payment cuts, forcing people to work again. He was spectacularly effective with that.

And I hate the freaking teachers unions as much as anyone here. But the Prov government controlls the strings on that. Saying "oh yes, the TDSB will negotiate with them, and wrestle (arguably) the richest and most powerful union in Canada to the ground" is cynical beyond belief.

Well, you're all wrong.

Mel was an idiot, but David Miller makes Mel look like a genius.

Until there is fully privatised garbage in Toronto proper, until there are road tolls to enter into Toronto, until the Youth Criminal Justice Act is revoked, until City Council becomes SIGNIFICANTLY smaller, and until this city understands that when a union contract is up doesn't mean an automatic 5% raise, this city in 2017 will be Detroit now.

What exacerbates this? Any school board that seriously considers as black-focused schools as a realistic method of having more folks graduate. Mr. Tory proposes equity for religious school funding, everyone goes bonkers, this comes up, but a mere protest. This is why Toronto is not a real city.

I am counting the days when I have enough money to move out of this cheap excuse of a craphole of a city.

What does the Youth Criminal Justice Act have to do with running Toronto? Ths is a federal issue.

Toronto ain't turning into Detroit. The downtown core is being densely populated with moderate and high end condos. Condo devlopments are selling out before they even have a model to show. Retiring boomers are moving INTO the core in huge numbers.

Sure, some of this is market speculation, and yes there is likely a market value correction coming, but the city's residental tax base is doing just fine thanks.

And, as one last shot in this predictable turning of the discussion, in which few seem to have any facts, only visceral hate of teachers unions and Toronto, here are some Canadian statistics on crime :

http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/85-002-XIE/85-002-XIE2007005.pdf
figure 2: Ontario has lowest crime rate of any province. Yet, the GTA accounts for half of Ontario's population... how is that possible. I guess every single crime in Ontario occurs in the GTA.

http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/060720/d060720b.htm

Toronto's rate of 2.0 homicides per 100,000 population ranked in the middle of Canada's nine largest CMAs. Edmonton had the highest homicide rate among all CMAs, at 4.3 per 100,000 population. Edmonton's rate was its highest since 1981, when CMA statistics were first collected. Regina, Winnipeg and Saskatoon reported the next highest rates.

Yes, of course, these are false stats that the government made up as part of its plot to hide the fact that Toronto is turning into Detroid next year.

Time to agitate for an inquiry into interference by the RCMP/Chretien in Shawingate investigation. Just saw Mike Duffy Live and read this a.m.'s Sob & Wail and you can see how they are pulling out all the stops to try to link current Tories to Mulroney's shenanigans. What's wrong with Ontarians, anyway? Seems they'll believe just about anything.

Miller and McGuinty versus Harper.

Harper is reducing federal government interloping, as any Conservative would.

McGuinty on his first day after re-election celebrates by declaring a provincial holiday in February, costing the taxpayers $500 million. $150 million more than Tory's private school funding.

Do ya think the drunken sailor might'a helped Toronto, instead?

Lay the turd at the foot of the one who deserves to step in it.

Agreed. One flaming bag of poo at McGuinty's door step. It doesn't help to keep bitching about what has come before. What's done is done.

The future, though, would be a better one if Torontonians inclined to vote conservative (of which there are many... despite the impression one would get from reading this discussion, most Torontonias work hard and resent paying taxes) did not have the feeling that they were being written off by the CPC.

The facts were buried in a single column on page 29 or so.

(Harper speaking in Toronto yesterday)

"Here in the GTA, our government is investing nearly $1 billion in our long-term transportation action plan, including extending the Spadina subway line to the Vaughan corporate centre," he said.

"We're helping to develop parks, beaches, and trails along Toronto's waterfront, improving clinical and stroke recovery centres of excellence at St. Michael's Hospital and the Heart and Stroke Foundation Centre."

"And we're unleashing millions of dollars in support to key GTA cultural institutions by enhancing tax benefits on donationss," he said."

I think I'll believe my own eyes and ears over a McGuinty or a Miller.

Lori,

Many very good comments about the city of to but a couple of corrections are needed. I worked at The City of Toronto as a Management Consultant just after the amalgamation and a little clean up aound y2k. The waste is laughable as I toured all former cities/broughs "city halls" to find expanded staffing, not less. The judicial inquiry concerning said y2k read like a soap opera and offered up an excellent picture of the problem. No one read contracts worth hundreds of million to catch basic escalation in the costs of financing. Multiply this across hundreds of offices around the city and you get waste beyond the pale.

The city government is poorly run, wasteful and the citizens are not getting what they deserve: good basic stewardship.

Look at voter turnouts for municipal elections: pathetic. The city soaks renters and they never bother to vote. Turning your personal experience with crime into a reliable picture of law and order in toronto isn't too helpful.

I lived in Little Italy along College for many years and fondly remember the city despite the deterioration. To think it needed Mastercard to open the rinks before Christmas makes me wince.

It needs an administration like Guiliani gave NYC. Smart, tough, shrewd.

Yes downloading impacted TO but so, too, did the province get the same treatment when former PMPM was the Finance Minister. despite the odds, Mike Harris cleaned house within his first term.

I am watching a leftwing city council in a state capital in the midweast of the US do much the same thing while a DMC dominated state government lives beyonds its means. It's a vicious pattern practiced by gutless, left-leaning politicos who confuse talk with action: David Miller writ large.

I appreciate the comments jrb. I don't doubt the waste is hideous. But is any more hideous than any other municipal government?

I do take exception to the "turning my own experiencing with crime" bit. I've quoted the stats. No one else has. Please refute this if you can.

Speaking of crime rates and New York City: what was New York's crime rate as of 1960? 1965?

(Of course the situation between New York then and Toronto now isn't quite comparable, as a condo building has private security. A 'Renaissance Centre'-style dealie could serve as a gated community inside a single building.)

Well, according to the first google match, for 1965 I found 836 murders in a population of 18 million for New York.

= 4.6 / 100,000. Roughly equal to Edmonton, and about double Toronto's.

NY murder rate peaked in 1991 at 14/100,000. It's down to about the same level as 1965.

Detroit murder rate, 2004, for perspective, is 39/100,000!! Holy crap!

Dion was on TVO tonight, Paiken's show, and said something like:

'I was in PEI when things were looking bad for Premier Graham against Bernard Lord'.

Dion actually confused New Brunswick with PEI !!!!

I recall Obama making comments not long ago about the middle east and the region around Pakistan and Afghanistan that revealed he has little knowledge of geography. I wonder if he is one of the 35% of Americans who cannot find the USA on a map of the world. Oh well as long as he is president what does it matter.

Now that Harper is calling on an independent person to look into the new accusations of the jailbird Schreiber against Mulroney, maybe he should toss in a few more investigations for Chretien and his dealings. It's still all muddified, let's clear the air on all "sides".

That's exactly what he's doing. The libs were warned a few days ago and yet they persisted. Now they're going to reap the whirlwind...

Dat is not fair , dat is not fair.

Dion was on TVO tonight, Paiken's show, and said something like:

'I was in PEI when things were looking bad for Premier Graham against Bernard Lord'.

Dion actually confused New Brunswick with PEI !!!!

so lets see. mulroney won his lawsuit. cretin lost. what a bunch of political crap trying to screw mulrony over after the fact. hammer the crap out of the dishonest liberals and keep hammering until cretin is behind bars and all liberals who were part of adscam etc are removed from any and all government positions, dion included.

It seems that, that the Liberal henchmen will regret the fact that they asked for an inquiry in the Mulroney case.
The whole liberal endeavour is so political driven that the damage to the Liberal party will be defastating, and the more damage the better.

I dont think you will see Harper go after Chretin/Martin until a Majority is secured.

That Dion confused PEI with New Brunswick should be front page news in the Toronto Star, well would be if it were a Conservative.

The Liberals will rue the fact Harper is going to delve into this latest accusation by about to be deported and behind bars Shreiber.
Right now the biggest blow bags in the Librano fold are orgasmic at the idea of having something to beat the Conservatives with, forgetting this is NOT the same Party as Mulroney led. They're dealing with the very shrewd mind of Stephen Harper and they better be careful what they wish for.

Liz, If a Conservative (say, Stockwell Day) suggested that the Niagara River flowed from north to south, it would be front page news, right? Front page?

STOCKWELL DAY THINKS THAT NIAGARA RIVER FLOWS NORTH TO SOUTH!!

Details at 11!!

You're delusional.

By the way, the Tories are not clean, and it's becoming more plain every day.

Probably not, Tewchip, but the Gliberals have set the precedent, and I am pretty sure that down the road there will be Hell to pay for it. Mr. Dithers and the Cretin might be well advised to seek asylum in a 'friendly' country like China before the excrement impacts the rotating blade.

Now we can re-open Adscam, we can re-open tainted blood, we can re-open.....hell, we could re-open the declaration of Martial Law if we wanted.

Why the heck does anyone bother to go to National Newswatch???

Any news site that constantly links to the Toronto Star doesn't deserve to exist.

The only thing worth reading in the Red Star is Hebert.

Seriously, this is no different than Bourque shilling for the Globe and Mail.

These guys aren't worth the bandwidth they use.

Crabgrass , it was front page news.and a top story on CBCpravda .

heres an little known tidbit on directions, the Atlantic entrance to the panama canal is west of the Pacific entrance. the water on the Pacific side is often 6 meters higher than on the Atlantic side due to tides not global warming.

Do you think it's easy to name provinces ?

Can anyone explain why all the past PM's that are suspected of any wrong doing are or at one time were associated with Power Corp??

Looks like I've struck a nerve there "Crabgrass", truth does sometimes hurt.
I'd worry less about a small and unimportant error by Stockwell Day re the direction a river flowed and more about Dion, leader of Official Opposition who confuses PEI with New Brunswick.
It is so EASY to confuse those two provinces, they're so much alike, RIGHT Crabby?

It does prove the point that small, unimportant little glitches by Conservatives is BIG news in
the Lefty media, showing extreme desperation.

Every time the Star and the G&M go to press they sow the seeds of their own destruction. Kind of like the Romans drinking wine from their lead goblets.

"Every time the Star and the G&M go to press they sow the seeds of their own destruction."

Of course they do.

How's Ezra's paper working out?

small, unimportant little glitches by Conservatives is BIG news in the Lefty media, showing extreme desperation.

Yet after the Mountie was shot last month in Hay River, CTV ran a clip for 24 hours about "Hay River, Alberta."

Did no one think that was ridiculous?