sda2.jpg

November 9, 2007

Reader Tips

The founder of The Weather Channel doesn't mince words.

Age of consent mandatory. Celibacy vow at the discretion of the Archdiocese.

Why the Violence is Down in Iraq (Interviews with Senior Military Officials) at theLong War Journal.

Your Friday thread starts here.

Posted by Kate at November 9, 2007 12:08 AM
TrackBacks

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/mt/mt-tb.cgi/6176

Comments

Who's your favourite foreign politician today?

Notice the tricky wording of the question, which allows me to dodge the problem of not choosing Prime Minister Stephen Harper of the Dominion of Canada, whose government I have been quite satisfied with lately (given that we can't really completely get rid of government in the first place, and then allowing for the huge Henrys per Ohm values involved in steering the course of the ship of state).

So with that out of the way, I present for you my choice for the answer to the question: M. le President Nicolas Paul Stéphane Sarközy de Nagy-Bocsa of the Republic of France.

Cribbed from Wikipedia: M. Sarkozy is the son of a Hungarian immigrant father, Pál Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa, and a mother of French and Ottoman Sephardic Jewish descent, Andrée Mallah. Pál Sárközy was born in 1928 in Budapest into a family belonging to the lower nobility of Hungary. The family possessed lands and a small castle in the village of Alattyán, near Szolnok, 92 km (57 miles) east of Budapest. Pál Sárközy's father and grandfather held elective offices in the town of Szolnok. Although the Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa family was Protestant, Pál Sárközy's mother, Katalin Tóth de Csáford, grandmother of Nicolas Sarkozy, was from a Catholic aristocratic family.

For those of you keeping score at home, the ethno-cultural history of the current President of France is Hungarian Ottoman Protestant Jewish Catholic lower-nobility immigrant. And he's the President of France. This must be driving the pure wool people nuts ;-)

M. Sarkozy's legacy has seen a lot of oppression, a lot of freedom, a lot of honest men, and a lot of shysters. With that in mind, I recommend to you M. Sarkozy's address this week to the Congress of the United States of America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlt2GE4EYo4

H. L. Mencken said, "Government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods".

I haven't changed my opinion about that; assuming it is true: it remains up to us to pick the best auctioneer. I'd vote for Sarkozy.

Posted by: Vitruvius at November 8, 2007 11:26 PM

The first link won't load.

Posted by: soup at November 8, 2007 11:45 PM

Solar energy driven (Carbon-free!) web hosting:
http://www.floatingworld.ca/content/view/72/

Does anyone ever ask how much CO2 is produced during the manufacture of all the bits that go into making 'carbon free' widgets? What is the carbon return on investment curve look like? Should we just have a nuclear plant drive the web hosting environment, instead of driving all the plants that make the materials and components that go into a carbon free solution? Just wondering...

Posted by: Shaken at November 9, 2007 12:05 AM

Just read one about JOHN TRAVOLTAS new 707 and this wack is blabbering about this global warming poppycock bull kaka what a pathetic hypotcrit and all around pain in my tail feathers SQUAWK SQUAWK

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at November 9, 2007 12:25 AM

"It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming." By John Coleman

Now quoting a TV weatherman. Oh Kate, that is funny.

Posted by: albatros39a at November 9, 2007 12:33 AM

"Age of consent mandatory. Celibacy vow at the discretion of the Archdiocese."

Within the context of only 2% of convicted female pedophiles ever serving jail and 49 out of 50 Canadian federal inmates being male I have to say:

YES!!!!! YES!!!!!! SCORE ONE FOR THE BOYS!!!!

43% of pedophiles are women.

Posted by: Andrew at November 9, 2007 12:36 AM

Alby just for you I will use a Homer Simpsonism...

Temperature go up, Temperature go down, Temperature go up, Temperature go down, Temperature go up, Temperature go down.....

I hope you get the picture and stop flogging this dead horse.

Posted by: Joe at November 9, 2007 12:38 AM

No Joe, a horse would be a big dead animal.

Posted by: albatros39a at November 9, 2007 12:41 AM

Weird thing is....i know Father Dohey. Not on a personal level, but he's celebrated masses that i've been to before. It's a little disconcerting, to say the least. I was surprised when I heard the allegations and a little angry that this is still going on. In Newfoundland, the spectre of sexual abuse at the Mount Cashel orphanage by the Christian Brothers is still quite a haunting one, after all these years. Nowadays, a supermarket stands on the location where the orphanage used to be but the memories of the scandal are still quite vivid for many.

Posted by: Mark at November 9, 2007 12:43 AM

Amen Mark. As a Catholic convert, I'm devastated when I hear of this type of thing. Let me speak for all faith-loving Catholics out there, of our hope for the truth to be revealed in this situation, for justice to be wrought upon those guilty of doing wrong, and for healing upon those wounded by not only the direct harm caused to them, but for those who are scandalized and upset at yet another allegation of this nature.

This is not our Church, and not our God, that does these horrible deeds. For those who have been wronged in this way by members of our clergy, we the faithful offer our apologies and pray for your healing.

Posted by: Doogie at November 9, 2007 12:55 AM

Wild sounding Reverand Robertson Rant ..

Then Secretary of State Colin Powell echoed the president's remarks when he told a State Department audience, *This kind of hatred must be rejected.* The director of the American Jewish Committee called Robertson's *Nazi* omment *outrageous.*

On his *700 Club* program, Robertson has repeatedly defamed Islam and Muslims. He called Muslims *satanic,* claimed the Quran, Islam's revealed text, is *fraudulent* and said Islam is *a monumental scam.* Robertson also called the Prophet Muhammad *an absolute wild-eyed fanatic, a robber and a brigand...a killer* and said the goal of Islam is *world domination.*

He called Islam the *religion of the slavers,* claimed Americans who convert to Islam exhibit *insanity* and said he would be *wary of appointing Muslims to positions in the U.S. government, including judgeships.*

In announcing his endorsement of Giuliani, Robertson referred to the *bloodlust of Islamic terrorists.*

==================== NewsMax.com

Careful, one can easily become worked up and call for a Hangin* posse for Robertson.

It may be wise to check each Roberton anti-Muslim claim against the papers of the brilliant scholar, Winston Churchill.

Colin and Bush are decent enough in their indignation, but I suspect they never had time to do the research.

I am no fan of Rev. Robertson or of any religion, yet comparing Robertson notes to Churchill notes, all points seem to ring true.

Many a poor soul who spoke the shocking truth through history have been tarred and feathered and worse.

Robertson could have used more moderate words like, *Americans who convert to Islam are uninformed, rather than using *insanity*. = TG

Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 1:11 AM

Wild sounding Reverand Robertson Rant ..

Then Secretary of State Colin Powell echoed the president's remarks when he told a State Department audience, *This kind of hatred must be rejected.* The director of the American Jewish Committee called Robertson's *Nazi* omment *outrageous.*

On his *700 Club* program, Robertson has repeatedly defamed Islam and Muslims. He called Muslims *satanic,* claimed the Quran, Islam's revealed text, is *fraudulent* and said Islam is *a monumental scam.* Robertson also called the Prophet Muhammad *an absolute wild-eyed fanatic, a robber and a brigand...a killer* and said the goal of Islam is *world domination.*

He called Islam the *religion of the slavers,* claimed Americans who convert to Islam exhibit *insanity* and said he would be *wary of appointing Muslims to positions in the U.S. government, including judgeships.*

In announcing his endorsement of Giuliani, Robertson referred to the *bloodlust of Islamic terrorists.*

==================== NewsMax.com

Careful, one can easily become worked up and call for a Hangin* posse for Robertson.

It may be wise to check each Roberton anti-Muslim claim against the papers of the brilliant scholar, Winston Churchill.

Colin and Bush are decent enough in their indignation, but I suspect they never had time to do the research.

I am no fan of Rev. Robertson or of any religion, yet comparing Robertson notes to Churchill notes, all points seem to ring true.

Many a poor soul who spoke the shocking truth through history have been tarred and feathered and worse.

Robertson could have used more moderate words like, *Americans who convert to Islam are uninformed, rather than using *insanity*. = TG

Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 1:14 AM

Heidi Cullen, The Weather Channel nut case --- her blog is virtual war !! For awhile now. She will get lambasted by hundreds and hundreds of very qualified people.

This one by her is typical. It recieved 1100 replies;

An excerpt from the original post from Dr. Cullen on Dec 18, 2006.

"Meteorologists are among the few people trained in the sciences who are permitted regular access to our living rooms. And in that sense, they owe it to their audience to distinguish between solid, peer-reviewed science and junk political controversy. If a meteorologist can't speak to the fundamental science of climate change, then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them a Seal of Approval. Clearly, the AMS doesn't agree that global warming can be blamed on cyclical weather patterns. It's like allowing a meteorologist to go on-air and say that hurricanes rotate clockwise and tsunamis are caused by the weather. It's not a political statement...it's just an incorrect statement."
read the post here, including the 1100 + comments

http://www.theronhatch.com/blog/icontact/2007/01/heidi_cullens_blog_receives_gl_1.html

Posted by: ron in kelowna at November 9, 2007 1:14 AM

Got a double posting error message.. Nothing there.

Second try = 2 comments. Sorry. = TG

Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 1:19 AM

An Act of Kindness from Iraq

Iraqi Army officers in Besmaya raised a thousand dollars in donations for fire victims in San Diego, California, and the only place that seems to have reported the story is the military blog OPFOR.

Author Richard S. Lowry learned about it in a press release from the Multi-National Security Transition Command-Iraq Public Affairs, so it’s unlikely he’s the only one in the media who knows something about it.

MichaelTotten.com

UPDATE: CNN now has the story on their Web site. Good for them. = TG

Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 3:26 AM

Vitruvius: Henrys per Ohm? WTF? What does that measure? Or were you just being arch?

Posted by: KevinB at November 9, 2007 3:53 AM

CANADA GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD - FOR PEDOPHILES

From 580CFRA Web

"Man Wanted in Thailand Granted Bail in BC
Josh Pringle
Friday, November 9, 2007

A provincial court judge in British Columbia has granted bail to a Canadian man wanted in Thailand on child sex charges.

Orville Mader has been ordered to stay 300 metres from parks, libraries or any other public place where a child under 14 may be present.

The 54-year-old man is also not allowed to have a computer or cellphone where he may be able to access the Internet.

Mader was arrested at the Vancouver International Airport last week, after Thai authorities had issued an arrest warrant on allegations he molested an eight-year-old boy."

Libs make law to prosecute people trolling for kids in other countries then install lib judges to let them go.

Posted by: Pissedoff at November 9, 2007 8:07 AM

Librano$, aka Liberal on the lam, running from the law.
Anyone knowing the whereabouts of "Grit honcho", please call Lib leader Citoyen Dion. ...-

Grit honcho hunted

LONDON -- A warrant was issued yesterday for a former Liberal riding association treasurer who failed to appear in St. Thomas court.

Suzan Pawlak, 49, is charged with 42 counts of fraud and issuing forged documents.

Treasurer of the Elgin-Middlesex-London federal Liberal association from August 2005 to April 2006, Pawlak was charged after money disappeared from the association, prompting a police investigation that lasted six months.

Pawlak moved to Toronto and was working as manager of political operations for Southwestern Ontario for the federal Liberals. ...-
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Canada/2007/11/09/4642428-sun.html

Posted by: maz2 at November 9, 2007 8:23 AM

"Henrys per Ohm"?

My guess is that it's a clumsy attempt to communicate the idea of 'inertia' in a manner only comprehensible to another electrical engineer.

Posted by: Jared at November 9, 2007 8:50 AM

vitruvius - I fully agree with your support for Sarkozy. Quite the change from Chirac, isn't he.

Back to my speculative-conspiracy theory. I'm suggesting that the Liberal Backroom Boys are behind the current scuffle with Mulroney-Shreiber. Yes, I'm suggesting they are advising and even funding him. And advising the Liberal MPs who are fronting the issue in the House. After all, why is this issue coming up now?

Their agenda is to take the MSM focus off Dion, and above all, try to smear Harper and the CPC. They can't find anything on Harper. Or the CPC. So, they are trying the Proverbial Link by dredging up Mulroney, who is not CPC but PC.

Nevertheless, their agenda is twofold- take the heat off Dion and try to link Harper and the CPC with a corrupt Mulroney. Impossible to do 'de facto' but, heck, the MSM isn't interested in facts.

Posted by: ET at November 9, 2007 8:52 AM

http://www.zombietime.com/gore_in_marin/al_gores_secret_message/ this from best photo blog very amusing

Posted by: paul hamer at November 9, 2007 9:12 AM

CBC reports on Brad Wall announcing the time of the next election. Do you think they could have picked a stupider looking picture of him?

Posted by: Bruce at November 9, 2007 9:15 AM

Mao say: Blair rip off taxpayers.

Citoyen Dion rips off/plagiarises Blair.

It's socialism's pyramid scheme: Rip off.
$$$$$$

Dion to promise benefits to poor and working class

Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion will rip a page out of the Tony Blair playbook today with an election-style policy announcement that would offer tax breaks and other benefits to poor and working-class Canadians, as well as senior citizens. (national newswatch)
$$$$$$

China's media scorns Blair's £200,000 'cash raking' lecture trip
By Clifford Coonan in Beijing
Published: 09 November 2007

Tony Blair earned the scorn of the Chinese media yesterday for accepting £200,000 for a three-hour spin through southern China, during which he gave a "cliched" speech and fitted in a quick jaunt around a high-class villa complex.

"Is he worth the money?" asked some Chinese newspapers and compared the former prime minister's oratorical insights to those of a village official.

The Guangzhou Daily said the trip was simply a "money-raking" exercise and complained that China was becoming a place for celebrities and former leaders to come and cash in. The paper said it was time for Chinese sponsors to think a bit harder about who they invite to open their supermarkets and walk down their red carpets.

"We should exercise less ostentation and vanity... learn more new and genuine knowledge – especially when we are using even a cent of taxpayers'money," the paper said. $$$$$$
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article3143255.ece

Posted by: maz2 at November 9, 2007 9:17 AM

Bruce. no they couldnt . if they had one with a swastiki in the back they would have used it. the anti Sask Party CBC coverage started the night of the coverage when they stopped showing the seat count right when the Sask Party took the lead.expect 4 years of same.

Posted by: cal2 at November 9, 2007 9:26 AM

cal 2 - With any good fortune CBC will no longer exist within four years.

The billion and a half yearly of coerced tax money that feeds the leftist brute should be choked off and soon.
How about it Mr. Harper?
Use that billion and a half for stay at home mothers.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at November 9, 2007 9:46 AM

http://thechinagame.com/2007/11/08/chinese-diplomats-pressure-canadas-cbc-television-program-pulled/

Stunning (or maybe not) - CBC caves into Chinese government pressure on what to air.

Posted by: CSW at November 9, 2007 9:46 AM

The only way it can get any worse for men under socialism is if they just start rounding us up at random:

*************************

TOUGH new rape laws which make it clear being drunk does not constitute consent have been condemned by barristers, who insist: "It will turn our sons into criminals."
...
The law will define the meaning of consent for the first time, making it clear that being drunk or under the influence of drugs does not mean consent has been given.

It will also introduce an "objective fault test", meaning a man can no longer use the defence that he thought he had consent if the circumstances appear unreasonable.

"It will turn our sons into criminals," new Bar Association president Anna Katzmann SC said yesterday.

"For years women have been insisting 'No' means 'No'. What troubles us about this new legislation is that it introduces a new regime where 'Yes' may mean 'No'."

Ms Katzmann gave the example of a woman on a first date who might not want to have sex but after both she and the man had drunk too much said "Yes".

The next day she feels guilty and tells her mother, who goes to the police.

"That would be rape under the new laws," Ms Katzmann said.

www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22726261-5001021,00.html

Posted by: Andrew at November 9, 2007 9:52 AM

Ron Baul vs Bernake on Fed created stag-flation

http://tinyurl.com/35d49n

One of the most pertenent facts suppressed by the anti- Ron Paul media is that he has served 2 terms as chairman of the house banking committee and is well aware of the slight of hand the Fed reserve money-printers have pulled off....as he states to Bernake in this video.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at November 9, 2007 9:55 AM

A link for the week-end.

http://www.cdli.ca/monuments/


pax

Posted by: lwestin at November 9, 2007 10:05 AM

2 Very Misleading headlines today
National NewsWatch Says: PM tells cities to Drop Dead
Link to TO Star headline: Harper rejects aid to cities
the article then goes on to say Pm "Don't bother asking"
However,Mcguinty stated that the PM is receptive to the idea.
So receptive means No! or Don"t bother asking, He did not say that and once again we see misleading Headlines damage has been done, Who said there is no media bias.
The other point is that the meeting between the PM & Ont Premier was a 45min closed door meeting, we are going by what Mcguinty has stated leaving the meeting.

Posted by: bryanr at November 9, 2007 10:12 AM

Not Mincing Words .... Good Article there and yet I find the Weather Network regularly repeating the jargon of the Suzukiists and the Gore-O-philes.

On a somewhat related note .... there is a report going around that a convoluted effort to discredit the ANTI AGW argument has been discovered.
Flares Into Darkness reports and links to investigations by bloggers into this apparent SCAM .
My question ... Who has time and motivation to initiate such efforts?
Curious ..........!

Posted by: OMMAG at November 9, 2007 10:25 AM

Holy Hangovers

...Communion wine, in the tiny quantities the priest must drink at Mass, may now put them over the new and more severe Irish drink-drive limit. Some have three or four different villages to say Mass in, and have to travel. ""Perhaps it could be enough for you to fail a drink-driving test," the Rev. Brian D'Arcy, a priest from Enniskillen, told the Irish Times. "I don't like to use the word wine, as it is Christ's blood in the Eucharist -- but it still has all the characteristics of wine when in the blood stream."

Caroline Glick, Column One: America's Strategies for Victory and Defeat

The Battle of Iraq is nearly over. And the Americans have nearly won. Their enemies are on the run. Al-Qaida forces have lost or are losing their bases of operations. Its fighters are being killed and captured in ever increasing numbers. Iraq's Sunni citizens, who, until recently, refused to take any part in the post-Saddam regime, are joining the army and citizens' watch groups by the thousands.

...

The numbers speak for themselves. Over the past month, some 46,000 Iraqi refugees returned home. Since May, the number of civilian casualties has decreased by 75 percent. US military casualties have also dropped precipitously after the death rate rose in recent months of hard fighting. Neighborhoods in Baghdad that had ceased to function under al-Qaida's reign of terror have come back to life.

Businesses are reopening. People are rebuilding their homes. Even churches are reopening their doors. This is what victory looks like.

Yet the promise of Baghdad is a lone ray of light in an otherwise darkened field of failed US policies. As President George W. Bush prepares to enter his last year in office, America's international standing is at a low point. The forces of jihad, while being defeated in Iraq, are rising everywhere else. The price of oil races toward the once inconceivable price of $100 a barrel. New jihadist mosques open daily throughout the world. Pakistan is a disaster. Iran is closing in on the bomb.

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at November 9, 2007 10:43 AM

Pop Up: Canada's ex-Liberal PM Paul Martin, Jr.

Paul Martin, Jr., forever branded as: AdScam Martin.
...-

Martin emerges from his party's shadow
Former PM speaks out for aboriginals
[...]

For example, he declined to respond to comments in the recently published memoirs of his predecessor, Jean Chretien, who blamed Mr. Martin for getting Canada's military into "the killing fields" of Kandahar, Afghanistan. Others have spoken up on his behalf, he said, referring to Janice Stein and Eugene Lang, authors of a book on how Canada wound up in Afghanistan.

Mr. Martin did respond, albeit curtly, to Mr. Chretien's opinion that Mr. Martin should never have established the Gomery inquiry into the sponsorship scandal, one of the factors in the Liberals' defeat.

"The answer is: I don't regret it," Mr. Martin said. "I believe I did the right thing." ...-
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/canada/story.html?id=259c8e8a-8001-495d-948f-ef4c557c32d9

Posted by: maz2 at November 9, 2007 10:46 AM

Completely unrelated to anything at all, here's an amazing hack I spotted at Hack-A-Day.

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-2237947353453839215&hl=en

This guy has a pan/tilt videocam mounted on an RC airplane, feeding to a head set so the camera is controlled by his head movements. The movie is quite good, and lists all the equipment used in the credits at the end.

Off the shelf, baby. You can build anything these days.

Posted by: The Phantom at November 9, 2007 11:58 AM

I too am getting tired of National News Watch and their misleading headlines. Who runs that site ?

Any suggestions a Canadian news aggregator ?

Posted by: ron in kelowna at November 9, 2007 12:02 PM

Are there any other Canadian news aggregators ?

Posted by: ron in kelowna at November 9, 2007 12:04 PM

Lieberman suggests WWIII

In the stunning speech he delivered today, which I,[John Podhorertz],wrote about just below, Sen. Joseph Lieberman sheds some horrifying light on one of the issues that made last week’s Democratic presidential debate so contentious — the amendment he co-sponsored in the Senate declaring the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization for the purpose of imposing economic sanctions on the group. For her vote in the affirmative, Hillary Clinton came under withering assault from her rivals for supposedly giving President Bush a green light to attack Iran militarily.

Lieberman:

The reason for [the] amendment was clear. In September, General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker testified before Congress about the proxy war that Iran—and in particular, the IRGC and its Quds Force subsidiary—has been waging against our troops in Iraq.

Specifically, General Petraeus told us that the IRGC Quds Force has been training, funding, equipping, arming, and in some cases directing Shiite extremists who are responsible for the murder of hundreds of American soldiers.

This charge had been corroborated by other sources….It was also consistent with nearly three decades of experience with the IRGC, which has been implicated in a range of terrorist attacks against the United States and our allies—long before the invasion of Iraq.

commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/category/contentions/
==================================

In months past I may have suggested Bunker Busting Iran*s centrafuges, [ flippant blogger..tongue in cheek ].

Coming from US powerhouse Lieberman however, it makes one*s stomach churn.

With Russia and China ready to protect their interests, anything more than *conventinal counter measures* is loony suicide talk. = TG

Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 12:22 PM

Taliban Jack Layton-NDP's allies: Islamist Taliban, aka child murderers.
...-

Fifty nine children dead in Afghan suicide attack

KABUL (AFP) - Afghanistan's education ministry said Friday that a suicide attack this week had killed 59 children and five teachers, taking the death toll to 75 in the deadliest such bombing in the insurgency-hit country.

Six lawmakers and five bodyguards were also killed in the blast on Tuesday in the northern province of Baghlan, which has been free of the regular attacks by Taliban and other extremist militants that plague the south and east.

"We have got 59 school children, aged from eight to 18, and five teachers killed in that blast," education ministry spokesman Zuhor Afghan told AFP.

Nearly 100 more children were wounded, he said.

The children, whom one official said were from the same school, had gathered to welcome a visiting delegation of parliamentarians to a sugar factory outside the town of Pul-i-Khumri, about 150 kilometres (90 miles) north of Kabul. ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923436/posts

Posted by: maz2 at November 9, 2007 12:56 PM

The way we hear it in the media, the US economy is about to go over a cliff.

[The country remains on track to produce $50,000 in per capita GDP by 2010, up from $44,000 in 2006. The moment will be symbolically important - demonstrating that the "GDP gap" between the U.S. and the rest of the world will probably widen in the years ahead whether Americans produce the highest rates of growth or not. ] Neil Reynolds, Globe Investor.

Americans are simply a lot more productive than most. Especially Canadians.

[American GDP, however, is not simply living off its past success. In the third quarter, the BEA reported, worker productivity increased at an annual rate of 4.9 per cent (seasonally adjusted), a phenomenal showing by the statistic that heralds the rise of a country's standard of living.
And real wages did increase sharply in the quarter - personal incomes rising by a nominal 5.8 per cent, and disposable personal incomes rising by a nominal 6.1 per cent. On an annual basis, in the past 12 months, disposable incomes - after taxes and adjusted for inflation - have increased 4 per cent, a national increase in spending money of $340-billion. (Statistically, in the quarter, higher gasoline prices appear to have had almost zero impact on the economy, in part because consumer energy consumption, per unit of GDP, has fallen 50 per cent since 1987.)]Reynolds.

IOW, if energy is expensive, Americans will simply use it more wisely --- even without Maurice Strong nagging them.

[And the falling dollar?
The currency now hovers roughly where it hovered 15 years ago in the prosperous years of Bill Clinton's presidency.] NR

Compared to all currencies. Yen, Yuan, ect. Not just the Euro and the CAD. Canada is on a roll for a few reasons :)

Posted by: ron in kelowna at November 9, 2007 12:58 PM

in all the toil and strife a table to make us all feel insignificant.


http://haydenplanetarium.org/universe/duguide/app_light_travel_time_dista.php


Posted by: cal2 at November 9, 2007 1:00 PM

http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071109.wrreynolds09/GIStory/

Posted by: ron in kelowna at November 9, 2007 1:00 PM

Today's front page headline in the Moonbat Star:

"PM to cities: Drop dead"

Buried in a column in the back pages:

(Harper speaking in Toronto yesterday)

"Here in the GTA, our government is investing nearly $1 billion in our long-term transportation action plan, including extending the Spadina subway line to the Vaughan corporate centre," he said.

"We're helping to develop parks, beaches, and trails along Toronto's waterfront, improving clinical and stroke recovery centres of excellence at St. Michael's Hospital and the Heart and Stroke Foundation Centre."

"And we're unleashing millions of dollars in support to key GTA cultural institutions by enhancing tax benefits on donationss," he said.

And then there's the newest 'findings' from the Centre for Policy, scratch that, Moonbat Alternatives. They're claiming that the top 1% of earners are paying less in taxes than the poor. Of course, not a word on the fact that the top 10% pay pretty much all the taxes.

However, it's got all the outraged moonbats fluttering out of the cave. Girly man Dion's new key policy: "A bold plan on action on poverty."

Posted by: irwin daisy at November 9, 2007 1:09 PM

IraqTheModel blog is under fire from..
AntiWar.com

The first oddity that leaps out about the Fadhils is their rather singular outlook on the American occupation of Iraq.

The Fadhil brothers aren’t the only pro-occupation Iraqis blogging, but they stand out by virtue of their relentlessly positive postings and lack of criticism of events that most Iraqis are finding, to put it mildly, disturbing. Middle East expert Professor Juan Cole, in his Informed Comment weblog, speculated,


The MR posting (Martini Republic) brings up questions about the Iraqi brothers who run the IraqTheModel site. It points out that the views of the brothers are celebrated in the right-leaning weblogging world of the US, even though opinion polling shows that their views are far out of the mainstream of Iraqi opinion.

[Lots more in detail at:

antiwar.com/blog/2005/01/21/the-betrayal-of-the-iraqthemodel-bloggers/

============================ AntiWar.com

Not that I agree with anything they say but blog fights are informative. Wonder if the AntiWar.com backers are interesting folks? = TG

Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 1:15 PM

Women significantly more racist than men:

"Another clear gender divide, this one less expected, emerged in our findings on racial preferences, reported in a forthcoming article in the Review of Economic Studies. Women of all the races we studied revealed a strong preference for men of their own race: White women were more likely to choose white men; black women preferred black men; East Asian women preferred East Asian men; Hispanic women preferred Hispanic men. But men don't seem to discriminate based on race when it comes to dating. A woman's race had no effect on the men's choices."

awww.slate.com/id/2177637/nav/tap3/

Posted by: Andrew at November 9, 2007 1:22 PM

race ? race?
do women come in different races?

I noticed sizes and shapes but not much else.

Posted by: cal2 at November 9, 2007 1:28 PM

Guess who owns AntiWar.com

you can netsol.com/whois or sumthin'
or just take my word for it the irony of it all
webcommanders.com serves antiwar.com

surely from California.

anyhow that's my comic relief
or just plain 'hey lookie' for the night

shut em' down America

http://tinyurl.com/24mlqe
=========================== MacMinuteCafe.com
shut em' down.

= TG


Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 1:32 PM

I sent an email to John Coleman to ask him if Hedi Cullen excommunicated him from the AMS over this comment, as she threatened in a Dec 21 2006 post in her Weather Channel blog.

I honestly wish she does. What a debate this would be!

Posted by: Manny, in Moncton at November 9, 2007 1:37 PM

National Newswatch Bias in headlines??
Maybe it's just a reflection of what the headlines actually are!!

Posted by: OMMAG at November 9, 2007 2:09 PM

Kate's sidebar news aggregator suggestions ----- any reviews for 'Primeminister.ca' ??

Posted by: ron in kelowna at November 9, 2007 2:11 PM

American blogger, Dr. Rusty Shakleford (aka My Pet Jawa) has been threatened by a Muslim blogger from North Carolina:

"Jazakullah Khair to everyone for informing us of what the enemy of Allah, Rusty Shackleford aka mypetjawa (qatalahumullaah), had done with some of the pictures. We initially had a bad feeling of what he might do if we were to link the pictures from his blog.

So now that this true enemy of Allah has shown his ugly face, we say to him: we pray that Allah does not guide you, makes your whole life miserable, and that you are eradicated from the earth by a Mujaahid. We cannot wait to see your expression on the Day of Judgment when reality hits you in the face and the Angels who don’t know the meaning of Mercy will tear you apart into pieces for eternity. We hope that Allah gives you a severe torment in both worlds for your evil deeds. We pray that you die the way Pharaoh died… at the last minute, when his soul was about to be taken by the Angels, he wanted to become Muslim when he saw the truth (i.e., death)… but Allah rejected it and the Angel threw mud in his mouth so that he couldn’t pronounce the testimony which would take him to Paradise.

So let them laugh now, but we will be the ones laughing in the afterlife.

O Allah kill Rusty Shackleford and terrorize his family.

O Allah kill Rusty Shackleford and terrorize his family.

O Allah kill Rusty Shackleford and terrorize his family.

May this Kaafir rot in this world and be tortured forever in the Hereafter.

inshallahshaheed.muslimpad.com/2007/11/07/the-defeated-us-army/

--------------

Nice description of the Muzzie god and his angels.

Meantime a female muslim blogger in Florida discusses the "less than human" kaffir with other muslims on a thread from her blog:

At Friday, October 05, 2007 6:48:00 PM, Anonymous said…

You live in Florida in the United States and you use the word "kaffir" to refer to the people who live next door to you? I'm not trying to be rude but I'm just curious as to why you would do that...

At Monday, October 08, 2007 5:28:00 PM, abdullah said…

The kaffir (kuffur) are the enemies of islam. They are less than human unless they revert to the one true way. It is acceptable to be rude to them - regardless of where you live, for they are less than us.

At Monday, October 08, 2007 6:50:00 PM, Muslim Wife said…

Muniqaba: I pray we are amongst those who are called through this Gate of Jannah, ameen!

Zainab & Baraka: ameen! Hope y'all are having a great Ramadan and taking advantage of these last few days!

Anonymous: Did I do something wrong by calling a kaffir a kaffir? Anyways, Abdullah explained it well,masha'Allah, but I'll put it to ya like this...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

At Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:43:00 AM, Anonymous said…

I'm hungry.

On another thread she sez:

What Comes to Mind When I Hear
Car: stupid loud muffler
Murder: non-Muslim: Haha. Muslim: du'a

muslim-wife.blogspot.com/2007/10/whats-so-good-about-fasting.html

Alhamdulillah, A Muslim Wife
Florida, United States

---------------

And a Washington D.C. Imam calls for the overthrow of North America:

"As-Sabiqun is an Islamic movement that believes in the Islamic State of North America no later than 2050. Those who engage in this great effort require a high level of commitment and determination. We are sending out a call to the believers: Join with us in this great struggle to change the world!"

-------------

Just a day in the life of moderate North American Muslims, I guess.

Posted by: irwin daisy at November 9, 2007 2:29 PM

news.google.com

You can aggregate your own by subscribing to keywords, if you wish. They'll be delivered to your inbox daily.

Posted by: Kate at November 9, 2007 2:33 PM

Al-Qaeda Member's Account of His Stay in Iran
MEMRI

Columnist Fares bin Hazam, who specializes in issues relating to Al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia, published in the Saudi daily Al-Riyadh a personal account by a former Al-Qaeda member of Saudi origin. The article, titled "Iran Recruits Members to Al-Qaeda at Tens of Thousands Dollars a Month," describes the assistance the former fighter and his friends received from Iranian authorities after they fled Afghanistan, as well as Iranian attempts to recruit him as an Iranian agent in Saudi Arabia.

The following are excerpts from the account:

"After the disintegration of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan at the end of 2001 as a result of the American attack and the coming to power of other Afghan forces in the country, instructions were received from our leadership to retreat from Kabul in the direction of Kandahar. In the month of Ramadan, we received instructions from our commander to leave for Iran in order to seek refuge there. We arrived in Iran via Pakistan, where we did not stay very long. Our group consisted of about 30 fighters, among them Faisal Al-Dakhil, 'Amr Al-Shehri [both killed in 2004] and other prominent figures wanted by the Saudi government.

"We were aware that Afghani [Islamist] leader Gulboddin Hekmatyar, who resided in Iran [at that time], was acting as an intermediary and liaison [between us and] Iran's Revolutionary Guards. Hekmatyar promised us accommodation in the border city of Zehdan [in southeastern Iran], where the majority of the residents are Baluchi Sunnis. There we met with Al-Qaeda commander Abu Hafs Al-Mauritani, who had earlier opposed the September 11 attacks. [Al-Mauritani] assured us that we were in a safe place, and that we would be questioned by Iranian intelligence services in Teheran, who would provide for all our needs during our stay in Iran.

"Our numbers dwindled: only 10 of us remained after about two-thirds of our group had disappeared, Al-Dakhil and Al-Shehri among them. We moved to Teheran and met with the interrogators. They proposed that I collaborate with them from abroad, [that is,] from my country [Saudi Arabia], supplying them with information that they would need in the future. Their offer shocked me. I declined, and then was overcome with fear that the refusal would [harm the chances of] my release and return to my country. The interrogator began enticing me: '[You will receive] a monthly salary of $10,000, an Iranian passport, and military training with Hizbullah in Lebanon.'

"However, I was firm in my refusal to cooperate in any way. All I wanted was to leave. The [Iranian] officer said: 'You and us, we are both fighting the same enemy, the American [enemy], as well as everyone who supports him and helps him to remain in the region. Your jihad is our jihad, and a joint jihad operation of this kind is a duty incumbent upon us all. Do not fear, we will release you, and when you [decide to] accept our offer, you will have to contact (…) in your country, and within a few days we will convey to him [instructions for] you.'

"I do not know whether the rest [of our group] received the same offer. ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923427/posts

Posted by: maz2 at November 9, 2007 3:15 PM

Both Judge Judy and Judge Roy Brown are vying to hear a small claims court case filed by KS pro-life activist Mark Gietzen against late-term Wichita abortionist George Tiller, who was served yesterday.

Gietzen is requesting the maxium allowable, $4,000, for injuries he sustained after Tiller allegedly ran him over and then fled the scene outside his abortion mill last year.

Jill Stanek has the details...

FYI: George Tiller is America's most notorious late-term abortionist.

Posted by: SUZANNE at November 9, 2007 3:34 PM

It's easy to imagine how the NDP would have spun this story in the Saskatchewan election campaign: evil, triple-tier American health care system. The reality is much less sinister, it seems.

UT Southwestern offers special treatment to Dallas elite

UT Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas keeps a detailed list of wealthy, high-profile and influential people and their family members to ensure that they get favored treatment if they become patients.

UT Southwestern officials defend the practice, and some industry experts said hospitals and other nonprofits often take special care of donors or other powerful people.

...

Dr. John McConnell, executive vice president for health system affairs at the medical center, said people on the list only get a personal greeting when they arrive at the medical center, might get a special escort to their appointment, and sometimes get free parking.

...

But he emphasized that people on the list do not receive preferential medical treatment or free medical care. He also said no state funding supports the special treatment of people on the list.

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at November 9, 2007 3:46 PM

Maz2 @ 3:15 PM
================= Excellent!
[ .... ]
** Our numbers dwindled: only 10 of us remained after about two-thirds of our group had disappeared, Al-Dakhil and Al-Shehri among them.

We moved to Teheran and met with the interrogators. They proposed that I collaborate with them from abroad, [that is,] from my country [Saudi Arabia], supplying them with information that they would need in the future. Their offer shocked me. I declined, and then was overcome with fear that the refusal would [harm the chances of] my release and return to my country.

The interrogator began enticing me: '[You will receive] a monthly salary of $10,000, an Iranian passport, and military training with Hizbullah in Lebanon. **

freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923427/posts

=========Part of Maz2 @ 3:15pm = TG

Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 4:24 PM

Att. Mr. Heard: Your statement, " ... "The Grits support terrorists!"" has already been posted here.
You heard/saw it here first.
Once more: The Citoyen Dion Liberals, aka Grits support terrorists: Tamils, Sikhs, Islamists, Indian, etc.
...-

Memo from Ray Heard:
"Dear disaffected Liberal friends and acquaintances

I have told you this before. I am saying it again: This guy Dion has to go.

Like failed chief executive officers on Bay Street, he has to fall on his sword to make way for someone -- I favour the reinvented Bob Rae -- who will deliver returns to his stakeholders, the too patient and much too forgiving members of the Liberal Party. If he stays, we will go the way of Kim Campbell's Tories in the next federal election and Harper will get a majority rooted in Quebec as well as Alberta. (If Steve triumphs in Quebec he will devolve Canada out of existence, and Dion will take the fall for allowing this to happen, but that is another story.)

So, smart-ass Heard, where is the evidence to support your renewed demand for the head of Dion? The new bill of particulars includes Dion's outrageous immediate silence in the face of well-documented media disclosures that Liberal MPs in Toronto and in BC have been shamelessly trying to buy the votes of fringe groups by attending memorial services for terrorist "martyrs" -- Tamil Tiger zealots here, and Sikh thugs who shame their honourable creed in BC. Clearly, the Party now holds the facile pop liberal view that yesterday's terrorist is today's freedom fighter.

This is not the first time, of course, that our Leader has been silent in the face of infamy. Who can forget that, at the Montreal convention that elected him, he failed to speak up loud and clear when delegates supporting another top candidate came up to the beautiful Arlene Rae and told her not to vote for Rae because his wife is a Jew. It was then that I expressed the view that a leader who tolerates such blatant evil -- indeed, a hate crime! -- is not my leader.

I can just see the Conservative campaign slogan in the next election: "The Grits support terrorists! ...-
http://www.bourque.org/notes.html

Posted by: maz2 at November 9, 2007 5:04 PM

Wallet warning!!!!

Dion Quixote announced he will tilt at the Poverty Windmill with the creation of the National Department of Poverty (AKA NDP). Guard you wallets - in the next election vote Conservative

Posted by: Joe at November 9, 2007 5:17 PM

A public criminal investigation of the Liberal Party is now called for. This must go beyond the Gomery Inquiry.

The principals to be investigated include: Chretien, Martin, Dion, et al.
Among the items to be included in the investigation is whether the Liberal Party received money from terrorist groups, e.g., Tamil Tigers and Sikh terrorists.
...-

[Prime Minister] Harper announces review of allegations against Mulroney
[...]

"Just a week ago, Mr. Harper dismissed calls by the Liberal Party for a public inquiry, saying: “This is not a route that I want to go down, and I don't think that if the Liberal Party thought twice about it, it is a power they would want to give me." ...-
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071109.wharperpresser1109/BNStory/National/home

Posted by: maz2 at November 9, 2007 5:39 PM

@maz2, ET (8:52 AM):

If this investigation turns up dry then there's another explanation for the continual false alarming, which doesn't involve backroom deals:

"The Fifth Estate's Master - The Past, or 'Is It 1993 Yet?'"

This one might even get by ted.

Posted by: Daniel M. Ryan at November 9, 2007 6:28 PM

"The Grits support terrorists!"

Said by a Liberal.

Posted by: irwin daisy at November 9, 2007 6:32 PM

Liberals don't need to say they support terrorists, we know by their actions. They march with them, they attend fund-raisers for them and they attend memorials honoring the dead ones. What's left not to support?

Posted by: Liz J at November 9, 2007 6:42 PM

Suddenly, the future arrives.

Video: recapping Chevy's first green TV ads

AutoblogGreen.com

= TG

Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 6:45 PM

The media is years behind the blogs in covering this scam.

But at least the UK's The Telegraph leads with this headline;

*

** Weather Channel Boss Calls Global Warming 'The Greatest Scam In History' **

*

["Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild "scientific" scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda.] John Coleman, The Weather Network Founder

".. notable politicians .." ?? Al Gore ?? Naw, couldn't be.

["Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens.] JC

"... school teachers .. " ?? And to think we used to bring them apples for being dedicated to their job.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at November 9, 2007 7:55 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/11/09/eaweather109.xml

Posted by: ron in kelowna at November 9, 2007 7:56 PM

The AP reports that about three dozen veterans from the group New Hampshire for Peace wrote a letter to Congress this week calling for the 35 mpg level in the CAFE standards to remain in the final bill.

The reasons are pretty self-explanatory. If you see the broader picture, for example, the veterans say that the 35 mpg level would reduce imports by 1.2 million barrels of oil which is, as the letter says, *more than twice the amount we import daily from Iraq.*

The letter continues, *Much of the global oil supply is located in unstable and sometimes hostile nations, especially in the Middle East, and the burden on our military to safeguard access to that oil increases daily* and *the wealth we transfer to these regions in oil revenues has been used, and continues to be used, to fund terrorism and extremist, anti-American ideologies.*

An October letter sent by Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn, USN, Retired, covered similar ground.

=========== AutoBlogGreen.com

Exactly! = TG

Posted by: TG at November 9, 2007 9:03 PM

Do the climate sceptics feel vindicated tonight over the report that global warming is caused by CO2 emitting ocean bacteria?

dvorak.org/blog/?p=14451

http://uk.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUKL0887458220071108

Posted by: albatros39a at November 9, 2007 9:16 PM

One has to wonder why the LIEberals fight tooth and nail to have the age of consent at 14, instead of the previous 16; one has to wonder what some of them are up to.

Posted by: Joanne at November 9, 2007 9:54 PM

alby

I haven't seen sufficient evidence that CO2 natural or otherwise is a driver of climate change.

As I said last night, Temperature go up, Temperature go down...

Posted by: Joe at November 9, 2007 10:44 PM

Poll at GlobalNational.com gone terribly wrong...

Do you agree with the Conservative Government`s new hands-off policy on death-row prisoners?

Yes 87.17%

No 12.83%

I think Dion should keep pushing this issue since he is on the wrong side again!

Posted by: Al W at November 9, 2007 10:54 PM

Either you're not looking or you forgot your glasses Joe?

"As I said last night, Temperature go up, Temperature go down..." That's nice, it makes as much sense tonight as it did last night. Now let’s see you explain it.

Posted by: albatros39a at November 9, 2007 11:06 PM

Explain what Alby? Geological evidence shows that the globe has repeatedly been warmer than it is now (Temperature go UP). That same geological record shows the globe has repeatedly been colder than it is now (Temperature go DOWN). So simple even Homer Simpson understands it. Then of course is the geological record showing that CO2 concentrations acted almost independant of temperature although there seems to be a bit of evidence that CO2 concentrations seem to increase after the global temperature increases. As for meterological records forget about it. They haven't been kept long enough or accurately enough to indicate any kind of trend.

If you want to believe in AGW you go right ahead after all I believe in the right to practice one's religion as one sees fit unless it poses a real threat to those around the practitioner.

Posted by: Joe at November 9, 2007 11:33 PM

"geological record showing that CO2..."

Ok keep going, what "geological records" will show you CO2 concentrations.

"CO2 concentrations acted almost independant of temperature although there seems to be a bit of evidence that CO2 concentrations seem to increase after the global temperature increases."

Ok, why Joe. Explain where that CO2 comes from after the global temperature increases.

"As for meterological records forget about it. They haven't been kept long enough or accurately enough to indicate any kind of trend."

Don't even go there Joe. If you believe there is only one way to tell past temperatures, you're not equipped to argue climate change.

Posted by: albatros39a at November 9, 2007 11:45 PM

Well Alby I'd love to hang around and argue with you but since you can't imagine reading anything that does not confirm your pet theory (AGW) there is no point is there. Enjoy life, too soon it is over and all the fear, dread and loathing we suffer from is gone. Love while you have the chance, give when you have the opportunity and be all that you can be in the Grace that God has given you.

Posted by: Joe at November 10, 2007 12:03 AM

Samsung Electronics to stop selling in Japan

In a very interesting move, electronics giant Samsung has announced it will retire its consumer products from the Japanese market, although this will not affect its Business-to-Business dealings of memory chips and LCD displays, the company said.

But perhaps this is not as surprising as it seems to us living in the Americas or Europe where Samsung enjoys of an increasingly strong presence in consumer electronics. Instead the company cited poor profitability as the reason they are retiring from Japan, which reportedly accounts for less than 1 percent of the company's total sales at approximately $9 billion.

techspot.com/news/27823-samsung-electronics-to-stop-selling-in-japan.html
====================== Techspot.com

Japanese People have a national loyalty and a long memory re: China / Japan history.

We in Canada could afford to buy more Canadian made rather than *foreign bargain*. = TG

Posted by: TG at November 10, 2007 12:06 AM

Not so fast Joe, get back here and back up your claims.
Oh and don't feed me that god bs, I much prefer reality.

Posted by: albatros39a at November 10, 2007 2:28 AM

Yasser, the pervert: He's just resting.
Abbas is named "Palestinian President". There is no state of Palestine; ergo, there is no Palestinian President.
...-

Mausoleum of Arafat unveiled

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas unveiled a $1.75 million mausoleum for Yasser Arafat on Saturday, in a pomp-filled ceremony that helped him draw on the continued popularity of his iconic predecessor as he headed into peace talks with Israel.

The mausoleum, made of glass and beige Jerusalem stone, is surrounded on three sides by water, and a piece of rail track is entombed underneath Arafat's grave. The water and piece of track are meant to symbolize the temporary nature of the grave, officials said, with Palestinians planning to rebury their leader one day in Jerusalem, their hoped-for capital. ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923766/posts

Posted by: maz2 at November 10, 2007 9:03 AM

Oh and don't feed me that god bs, I much prefer reality

Alby obviously since you only read material that suits your preconceived idea the only reality you deal with is the reality which you created. That you deny the existence of God only confirms what I just said.

No man is so small as the one who will not admit the existence of One Greater. No man is so great as he who kneels before his Creator.

Posted by: Joe at November 10, 2007 9:47 AM

Many of Ottawa's most highly paid bureaucrats are set to retire over the next few years.

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=a5fa233d-e7f2-406a-b895-8ba2ba63ce71

"PS facing 'devastating' turnover

Top officials must be paid more, compensation advisor says"


Rather than paying these people more money, as this compensation advisor suggests, they should simply eliminate those positions entirely from the government payrolls. Sounds like a great opportunity for a kinder, gentler method of eliminating alot of deadwood.

Posted by: Mark R at November 10, 2007 9:49 AM

You keep telling yourself that Joe if a fairy tail is the crutch you need to get through life.
Now rather than running away and on an alternate tangent, why don't you explain yourself with regards to the claims you've made about climate. You seem to think you know a thing or two, and you’re claiming I choose only to read material that suits me. Now is your chance Joe, let me read climate science according to Joe. It should be good for a laugh.

Posted by: albatros39a at November 10, 2007 1:26 PM

Alby you accuse me of fairy tales and you're the one who believes in AGW? There seems to be a bit of a disconnect here. I base my world view on experience, study and much thought all of which include alternative points of view. If you think I am simply repeating what others have said, including I might add the Bible and common interpretations of same, you are sadly mistaken.
Likewise AGW. I am not a geologist but I know a good number of geologists and in discussions with them they all say that the geological record indicates that the temperature of the Earth has been warmer and colder in the past. They also say that CO2 concentrations have varied over time and that there seems to be no correlation between the rise and fall of global temperatures. Finally we get down the the measurement of temperature. How long have we been keeping accurate temperature of the globe? In fact ground based temperature on a global basis has never been done. Instead we gather a bunch of statistics from various populated areas and derive from that a mean temperature. However when we factor in things like heat islands, buildings, parking lots etc in the vicinity of our measuring device it becomes obvious to even a rank amature that the data base is contaminated and therefore useless. However even if we eliminate the contaminated data we still couldn't be certain that the Earth is warming or cooling. The reason is simply this. Time line. Based on a time line beginning in the late 1950's through the early 1970,s it was decided that we were entering an ice age. I have a certificate downstairs that proved I survived the big chill of 1969. That winter in Alberta the temperature reached -40 every night for 6 weeks in a row. What caused that cold snap that lasted just over a decade? Volcanos? Solar output? Ocean currents? Changing wind patterns? Polution?

Now are you prepared to tell me that although there is no real hard evidence indicating a temperature rise and without considering all the other factors that go into temperature readings that there is only one cause, HUMAN'S?

Did you send your bank account number to Nigeria again?

Posted by: Joe at November 10, 2007 2:13 PM

Alby and Joe. It*s OK to respectfully disagree. I just wish you could do it quickly while giving us some great links to check out. = TG

Posted by: TG at November 10, 2007 2:38 PM

No need to eliminate the senate but there is a need to limit the number to 17 senators with retirement age of seventy. = TG

Posted by: TG at November 10, 2007 2:43 PM

albatros39a - go Google this video "The Great Global Warming Swindle," and watch it. Scientists explain CO2 emissions; believe it or not.

Posted by: Joanne at November 10, 2007 4:14 PM

Now Joe you said -
"I am not a geologist but I know a good number of geologists..."
" Google this video "The Great Global Warming Swindle," and watch it."

So you read the bible and put your faith into it yet you turn a blind eye to observed scientific evidence. You tell me to watch a video yet that videocontains obvious untruths and you accuse me of "not reading anything that does not confirm your pet theory." I have seen that little video you are touting a couple of times, and I would laugh at if it were not taken seriously by so many people who don’t understand they are being misled by people who have a stake in keeping thing going as they are, instead of trying to fix a problem that threatens the planet.
Now Joe you have to admit whether you believe the thermometers or not, what is going on around the world tells us that things are warming up. The arctic ice is disappearing, glaciers around the world are disappearing, major storms are increasing in frequency and droughts are becoming increasingly severe. Now I know what you're thinking, seeing you are a true follower of the ostrich brigade and all, but guess what, record winter ice in Antarctica is a sign of a warming world.
Now I suppose I'm wasting my time but I suppose I should give you a quick lesson in climate change. Carbon dioxide being a greenhouse gas resists long wave radiation (heat energy) from escaping from the atmosphere, it acts like a blanket raising which will raises the temperature slightly. It may be slight but it's enough to increase the content of water vapour in the atmosphere, and water vapour is a much more potent greenhouse gas. It's what is known as a positive feedback where one thing (CO2) causes another thing (water vapour)to amplify a problem.
Don't try to pin the rising CO2 on the poor volcanoes because we know that the CO2 that has increased in the atmosphere is from the burning of fossil fuels. We can tell this because CO2 from fossil fuels have a distinct isotopic signature when put through a spectrometer.
You brought up Tim Balls favourity confuser that CO2 follows temperature. In the past this was quite true, but this time CO2 isn't following, it's leading the temperature rise and this time man is the one emitting that CO2. So where did this CO2 come from during past climate changes? Try this experiment. Take a bottle of Coke or whatever you favourite carbonated beverage is (interesting word “carbonated”, isn’t it?) and place it in the oven at 120 deg f. for about an hour. Take the bottle out of the oven, point the bottle at you face and then take off the cap. While the warm Coke drips off of your nose ask yourself, “now why did that happen?” It happens because water can’t hold as much CO2 in solution as it gets warmer. The ocean receives CO2 from rainwater in the form of carbonic acid. When the water is cool the CO2 stays in solution but when it warms up that CO2 is released from the water the same way CO2 is released from that bottle of Coke. Now the earth moves around the sun in an elliptical orbit (varying 71,000 years), it wobbles on its axis (varying 26,000 years) and its tilt towards the sun fluctuates in a predictable pattern between 22 and 24.5 degree over 41,000 years. It’s known as the Milankovitch cycle it results in the earth receiving a varied amount of solar energy resulting in warm periods and ice ages. The problem we face today is according to these solar cycles, we are supposed to be heading into an ice age yet things are instead warming. Scientists believe today that because to man’s influence we will in fact avoid the next ice age. preventing ice ages isn’t an all together bad thing when you think about it, but there is one major problem, we are overdoing the warming. We don’t know how much CO2 and warming the planet can take before we go from 1 or 2 degrees warming to triggering runaway greenhouse effect. Remember what I said above, water releases CO2 when it warms. Right now the southern oceans are reaching their maximum capacity for holding CO2 in solution. We now have an increased atmospheric CO2 level now. What happens when the oceans begins to release that stored CO2 due to warmer waters. To compound the problem we have the Arctic ice disappearing which would normally reflect the solar energy away from the water. Now with there being a reduced amount of white ice reflecting that energy, the temperature in the Arctic ocean is going to warm that much faster. This means we are much more quickly approaching that point where the oceans cannot hold the CO2. Its one of those tipping points you’ve been hearing about. In the past natural warming periods when the ocean released its CO2, the atmospheric content of carbon dioxide was low thereby warming the earth to a reasonable level, but what if the CO2 content of the atmosphere is high to begin with. This could lead to levels of CO2 that the earth hasn’t since the end of the Triassic. We don’t want to go there, because a sudden increase like that means the earth’s biosphere can’t adapt that quickly and will lead to mass extinctions possibly including us.
Now about that cool period which actually lasted from the 1940s until the 1980s. If you take the temperature record and leave out those forty years you will see that it is almost a linear increase in temperature from the beginning of the 1900s until today. The increased was caused by CO2 but the decrease was caused by fine particulate matter from industrial output of the war and post war boom. In simple terms, the earth was in a shadow of pollution during that time. If you take a close look at the temperature records you can even pick out economic downturns that occurred during that period. During the seventies and eighties much of the fuel used to power industries went from coal power to natural gas. Combined with a greater concern for the environment which pushed for cleaner emissions from smokestacks, the fine particulate matter was largely reduced. What scientists were looking at in order to predict an ice age resulted in a valid prediction of an approaching ice age. They got it right when they were looking at an increasingly dirty sky that was blocking out a portion of the solar energy that would have normally reached the earth and the fact that the Milankovitch Cycle was driving us into a cool period. What they didn’t count on was the fact that governments and people would actually do something about the pollution and clean up the air. It was probably a global catastrophe averted.
Am I prepared to tell you that there is hard evidence of an increasing temperature? Oh yea. It’s found in calcium carbonate shells in seafloor sediment, dendrochronology, lake varves, ice cores, speleotherms, coral rings, oxygen isotopes in ice and oceans and of course it’s in the thermometers of NASA, and in weather station thermometers around the world.

Posted by: albatros39a at November 10, 2007 11:06 PM

Alby please go back and find any reference I made to a video or website or text book or peer reviewed journal. After you are done please go for a walk in the great out doors away from trendy causes and worrisome nonsense.

A wise man said the best way to perpetuate a fraud is to speak to educated people using scholarly language. Me thinks you have fallen for just such a fraud but in the mean time - God Bless.

Posted by: Joe at November 10, 2007 11:43 PM

Oh yes I see now, Joanne posted that swindle video stuff. In my rush I had left my glasses in the other room I had assumed it was you Joe. Ah well the rest applies to you, all climate deniers are the same I suppose, and I will also assume you didn't bother to read the whole post and learn a fact or two.

Posted by: albatros39a at November 11, 2007 1:54 AM

Alby old boy you can assnume anything you want about me and you won't hurt my feeling one little bit.

I actually read these post with my glasses on.

However the information you supplied is not new to me and it does not generate fear in me either.

Mass panics bore me to death. The utter nonsense of taking a constantly changing environmental measurement and using it to panic people into irrational decisions is at best criminal. There is NO ideal global temperature!!!! There never was a time when global tempertures were not changing both short term and long term.

But mass panics affect real people in very real ways. My ancestors were shipped out of Britian 10 years after WW1 because of the panic that there were too many humans in Britian. They arrived in Alberta in 1928 with 10 children and another on the way to live in a little tar paper shack out in the middle of nowhere. Ten kids in a two bedroom house that after they moved on was converted into grain bin. Yes they moved on 1929 was the year all the money disappeared and the following 10 years was no walk in the park either.

So you keep on trying to ignite another panic. As for me and my family we shall serve the LORD.

Posted by: Joe at November 11, 2007 11:12 AM

If you had understood the science you wouldn’t have made the uninformed statements above.

I take it you are the type that when presented with empirical evidence that goes against you religious biases and your wallet, you just clutch that bible even tighter believing the earth doesn't matter, because you are going to be ruptured leaving global catastrophe behind.

But is there another reason for your illogical denial of reality, being a bible waving Albertan and all? Does your magic imaginary sky fairy talk to you and tell you money from the rape of the earth his way? Is wrenching oil from the tar sands worth jeopardising the well being of future generations of Canadians? Do you despise your children and grand children so much that you can't put that bible down for a moment in order to actually think for yourself? Here's a tip for you. Never listen to a geologist about climate change, especially an Albertan geologist, because in Alberta they are mostly petrologists and an Alberta petrologists is concerned with only one thing, oil.

Posted by: albatros39a at November 11, 2007 2:30 PM

Alby - so much hatred!! Why? Do you feel responsible for the whole world? Is your bright future besmirched by your own humanity? Fear not for Someone far greater than you or me created this universe that you and I might come to an understanding of His ultimate purpose. Please feel free to chase every will-o-whisp you choose but don't expect every one to bow at the altar at which you choose to worship. If you choose to live your life in the moment worrying about temporal matters then enjoy. In the brief time I am give to walk this wonderfull world I choose to bow before Him who was before, is now and shall remain .. forever.

Posted by: Joe at November 11, 2007 3:33 PM
Site
Meter