David Fodey wouldn't happen to be related to the infamous Jim Fodey, would he ?

Mike Pinder....wow the old keyboardist for the Mooody Blues lives in Saskatchewan?? ;->

I wonder if the penalties under the elections act apply to "youth"?

Clearly these acts are the pre-meditated actions of kids old enough to know what they are doing.

These people have broken a federal law. Should they not be charged? Or are they also above the law like the balance of the NDP campaign...

Of course they should be charged. Nice to see the shallow end of the petri dish is getting even weaker as they document with photo's and comments their stupidity.

given Jim Fodey's record thats probably his kid in the picture.

looks like this bunch has declared themselves guilty by making a listing of members and posting pictures. as youth they will declare themselves naive of the law.

Maybe it is an new NDP youth employment/pest removal strategy modified from the old gopher bounty program. Instead of 2 cents for a gopher tail the teens get paid on a per sign destroyed basis.

These boys need a good ol' prairie style hide whoopin' and no computer for six months!

Only problem is that their parents are socialists and will only send them to more therapy.

I was that young, once, just trying to remember if I was ever that stupid...oh yeah, I was...

Gormley is picking this up this morning. These kids are about to become famous....

Ha!! love that facebook!...the kids just can't hold back anything.
Who needs security cameras with these kids proudly doing digitals of their 'group' breaking the law?

Hmmmm, seems like a good sentence (If I were the judge) would be 100hours each community service erecting Sask Party signs at their own expense with their negligent parents helping with funding for the signs.

My friends and I made some youthful “indiscretions” way back in a different era. But we sure as hell were scared of getting caught and made detailed plans to avoid it. Not getting caught was where the excitement was. With these guys, leaving their trail of evidence, it appears that they get their kicks from being defiant. Interesting to see if it will all end in tears for them.

Looks like a great opportunity for some "Red Forman" discipline.... Gotta love a classic "dumbass" !

Guess these "kids" are not afraid of consequences. There is no fear of their parents or the law.
In my day, everything I did, I knew that I would have to face my DAD!

Cal that's a good point. When I was a young lad I did get up to a bit of mischief, but the whole point was not to get caught.

And I have always been rather proud to say that I never idolized anything the left had to offer, even in my youth.

I hope these kids get their comeuppance. Maybe they should be forced to install a few hundred signs for the Sask. Party.

Can't wait until the police become aware of this group. Nothing like breaking the law and then posting evidence of doing it, photos and confessions and the like. Some little buggers are about to wish they'd never used the web.

They just had their names read off for the entertainment of 100,000 radio listeners...

Hhahahahha

It is incredibly thoughtful of them to fully document all of their activities and to provide information as to which school they'll be at today. The police won't need to gather any information and they won't have waste any time looking for them.

It's as if they reported themselves to Crimestoppers.

They are used to not having to deal with consequences from being in high school. Wouldn't want to hurt junior's self esteem now would we?

It's a good thing that children aren't the future... what? They are? We're screwed.

Listening to Gormley now... Beautiful!!!

They're going to have to call themselves the "New SK Just Jot Our Asses Kicked Party"

Just the mentality of the NDP youth groups encouraged by their parents no doubt.

Sounds like the NDP parents are pretty desperate when they get children to do the dirty work that they won't do because as adults they would be carged.

This NDP tactic is similar to drug dealers using children to do their dirty work.

Sad state of affairs for the NDP to stoop this low.

So, when these idiots get out of college etc and apply for jobs will they put this on their resume. And, if they ever want to run for office will this come back and bite them you know where.
Can't wait for the cbc to whitewash this, or for jack layton to condem this action on his behalf.

Today's youth have no respect for authority (parents, law) anymore, particularly those in left-wing households (who are, by nature, more prone to criminal and/or anti-social behaviour)

Now it's on the news clips... Too funny!

This is another important reason why the Left is on the wane. Most civilized people regardless of their leanings, don't like thuggery.

The Left has consistently shown itself to be an loose organization of pure criminal thugs, drug and sex deviants at the bottom right up to vicious unionists in the middle ranks and collectivist communist freedom hating elitists at it's top end.

No normal reasoned person wants these people in charge of a civil society.

So keep it up kids, what you are kicking is your own political party right where it hurts. Works for me.

Looks like the site has been pulled... Someone get a screen shot of all the pages?

Good thing you don't live where i do. I'd walk you down to the police station myself.

Let them kick the signs! We (SP) are going to kick their asses so bad on Wed. night, (Nov. 07-07), they won't know their anus from their eyelids!!

Holy sh*t guys, relax a bit. Did they actually kick the signs over or just pose as if they were about to? I only saw the one pic on here, and beyond that, they're in fricking high school. What they did was stupid, but you all sound like you're lusting for blood.

An fitting penalty would be to have the kids wear SP signs (sandwich-style) for a few days. Then have them work at an poll station to learn about the importance of elections in our democracy.

I wonder if the creator of the sign kicking facebook site, Mr. Hamilton is related to another Mr. Hamilton recently profiled by Kate, as the editor in Chief from the Sheaf???

game over boys and girls. one of the kids must have taken the group apart.

Yeah, I noticed that the Facebook group is down already. However, a new group intent on pursuing the original idiots went up just as fast.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6964742287

I think we should be praising these youth. They have shown incredible bravery and strength of character by kicking over cardboard election signs. Forget our youth who volunteer at homeless shelters or spend time visiting the infirmed at our local hospitals. These guys are the real heroes. And who can question the brilliant move of posting their destruction on Facebook? Pure genius!

Do a search on Facebook for Chuck Hamilton. View his friends, and you will see Will Hamilton is listed as his brother. I bet their parents are proud.

Publishing their acts on facebook has to be the dumbest thing in a while.

And is this the NDP's idea of "justice on the streets," a slogan I keep hearing?

Have the Trauma Counsellors left for the schools yet?

Let's see here, these aspiring young socialists are happy to brag to the world of their heroic actions. (Who said todays youth aren't involved in politics) But wait - if one of these future pillars of the protest movement is actually charged with vandalism SDA will have to remove all refrences to said youths so we don't know who they are. Make sense?

Good point Garry............ hitting PrtSc now ;)

Ummm....Now do you understand why you can't run for office or vote, guys?

Well campaign signs are an eyesore, so I think those kids are doing the community a service!

If Brad Wall was smart - and according to messaging I keep reading on SDA, he's pretty much the second coming of Reagan, Gingrich, Gandhi, and Moses! - he should respond directly to this by meeting with the kids. All partisan boobery aside, I think it'd be a great move. He could publicly say that he hopes the police don't press charges - and then take the kids to places where their energy could do some actual good: soup kitchens, homeless shelters, an animal shelter, etc.

(For the record, I would have no problem with the kids being charged. Anyone who advertises their crime is simply begging for some justice.)

Got a screen cap and the Gormley audio up: http://no-libs.com/?p=2033

this was one of the destructive little twerps at an earlier age, they reward them for this behavior.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXXm696UbKY

great work Richad Evans.

so how are they all going to deny that screen capture? I think the dippers got some 'splainig to do. ma and pa dipper will have to explain the world to the horrid spawn. it their eyes it will be the vast right wing conspiracy after the youthful exuberance expressing their democratic rights.

This story is up at the G&M, and it is mentioned that the fine for destroying an election sign is 5,000.00 and 2 yrs in jail. Wonder if those idiots knew that. Charge them and fine them, suspend sentences until they pull another stunt, get a DUI, speeding ticket or whatever. If one of them do something to break probation, all will have their probation cancelled. If charged with something, and found guilty, it will bar them from the US, and put them all on the no fly list.
Their 15 minutes of fame could turn into a lifetime of shame.

Mary T,

Of course nobody will know because they are minors and arent supposed to have their names mentioned.....

But yes that is the path that would happen.

I am sure their parents are horrified at the stupidity of publicizing their actions, whether they are equally bothered by the actions that are documented is another matter.

What a bunch of maroon's

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like that guy who stole the laptop that broadcast naked pictures of
his dumbass self to the world.

how high do you have to be to commit crimes and simultaneously
dime yourself out to the world?

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Proving once again...SDA gets results.

for your viewing pleasure.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6964742287

Yesterday it was revealed that a person involved with Fred Thompsons campaign had a criminal record. Drug charges etc. Sounded like it might be a recent event. But, it was something that was done over 20 years ago, and he has stepped down today. These idiots on Facebook might think this is just a passing prank. Wait for any of them try and run for office at any level, or get a high profile job, they are finished. Actions have consequences. They are still in high school. Would you want them to be your daughters grad date.

Alby lives in Saskatoon and has kids??

Calvert wants citizens to look at voting age, fixed election dates

Hmmmm.

Perry, that is an excellent idea.

how come so much sadistic satisfaction in some comments?
Forgot when young we were?

i know 5 of the leaders and at least four of them have had there parents get a divorce

I also know that the four kids I know well have at least a 80 % and that at least one of them is on the high honour roll

These kids think its right because they have seen on tv the hate ads by both parties and think the way that they make a point is by making the other party look bad

Why would you mention that Wall should do this or that?This is a FEDERAL offence and as minors cant be charged,the parents or guardians should be.

Because Goerge,when we were young and got in sheeet,our parents straightened us out very quickly.The cops had no problem picking us up and bringing us home,because they knew that nothing they could do would compare to Mom and Dad. Know,well,we hide their names,and let them go home to play videos in the basement.And Mom and Dad can't discipline the little thugs because then they will scream parental abuse. BAH. Take your feel good mommy state and put it were it belongs,in the garbage.

"george asks, "how come so much sadistic satisfaction in some comments?"

Because it's SDA, silly. We tell other people that it's a place to "debate the issues," but really, we just like slagging off whomever we don't like. Also, speaking personally, I find that airing my opinions among others whom I know will agree with me all the time helps to validate my own self-worth.

Posted by: Jennifer at November 5, 2007 6:03 PM "

Says it all.

@Jennifer:

What you descibe as "I find that airing my opinions among others whom I know will agree with me all the time helps to validate my own self-worth" is a slightly exaggerated description of normal socializing. Just to let ya know.

surely there isn't anyone here, who really thinks anything will happen to these young adults! they are, the way they are, because thats the way they have been parented, so why would anyone here, think something might happen to them when they get home! ( mom or dad are probably their "best friends") If they were ever found guilty in a court, the best ruling by a judge might be, "that if you like to take down signs, maybe you 6 or 8 or 12 kids should be responsible to take down every sign in the entire city!"

Changing your name and replying to your own post is just showing how stupid you are.

Bad advertising for the schools. I certainly wouldn't have been so dumb as to leave a trail of evidence!

Looks like the little hooligans are lashing out...

Boy, the Junior Stalinists sure get pissy when someone ruins their federal offense fun.

This is boring.
What have lawn signs ever accomplished in all of history? Anyone who's vote is influenced in anyway by a lawn sign, is an idiot that isn't about to actually vote. I mean really...

Er...thanks, guys. (If this keeps up, I'll be blushing my way into a pseudonym.)

You're right KGMIM, advertising has never worked, ever. Quite a scam all those ad companies are running.

what the kids did was obviously wrong, but i bet they didnt know it was anything more than vandilism. probably had no clue it was a federal offence. think about it. is spray painting innapropriate things on an elementary school so much better than kicking down one of hundres of cardboard signs? one is mere vandilism and one is a federal offence?

This may sound a bit extreme but, this kind of thing does bring to mind the history of brown shirts,swastika's and brainwashed youth............it just seems so familiar.

leo:

It's spelled vandalism, but this is much more.

You're not suggesting it's a random act of violence are you?

Or are you just saying they did not understand the consequences of their actions?

In the secular progressive's world, anything is excusable, including dumping a load of manure on a former field goal kicker's lawn.

Just another form of artistic impression, don't ya know?

I love how this is rationalized in these budding lefties' minds. It's cuz the mean old Sask Party has more money for Ads.

"It's not fair!"

Lawn signs are always a point in elections. Seems like they are meant to be an indicator of how much support a candidate has, window dressing. Unfortunately they're not really an accurate indicator of support by any means. I can remember in elections past as an Alliance campaign worker we were always fighting the "sign war" and there were the childish idiots whom I presume were Liberals stealing our signs. Did it influence the election? Perhaps it had a small effect but unlikely. Still, as my mom always told me; its the thought that counts!

Here's hoping the creator of this group, Will Hamilton, is not of any relation to our Chief Electoral Officer of Saskatoon, David Hamilton. That would be truly scary.

With all due respect I would like to try my hand at a synthesis of this thread.

Stupid kids thrash election signs and brag about it on internet. Kate spots the play and points bad behavior out. Folks express disgust and begin to yen for "back in the day". Others check in and proclaim "kids will be kids."

Updates roll in and it appears there might be a connection between the little darlings and the editor in cheef of the Sheaf.

A thinking person wonders. Pissing match ensues.

Conservatives are mean to their kids...liberals kind.

Reality.

One of my sons did $6000.00 vandalism damage along with two of his friends when he was 13. His mom and I are divorced, both his buddies live in "intact families'.

When the shit hit the fan the other parents stepped up and dropped four grand to "divert" their chillin from the court system.

The ex and I discussed things and took the other road. No money. Face the consequences of YO court and the economic consequences.

Community service and the 2K. He had to ride two busses after school to get to the jobsite I was working on for two hours of picking garbage. Every day until he was clear.

The day he paid his shit off I gave him a K. Sticks and carrots...but no carrots until you man up.

To me that is what conservative is about...help with correction and they will become self correcting.

Syncro

... and sometimes, the hard medicine is the good stuff.

It sure is easy to throw money at a problem and wish it all away.
thanks syncro.

Got to wonder how the other two made out.

No, these two are not related to David Hamilton. Same last name, but different relation.

Looks like Sarah Connor, NDP candidate, isn't immune from complete stupidity.

http://i24.tinypic.com/280pldl.jpg

Sarah Connor -- member of the "Elaborate schemes about burning down Walmart (sic) is the hottest pillow talk." group.

Synchro l- Great story and I admire the way you handled it. There is so little accountability for bad behaviour. This is mainly due to two things: 1. Bad (or no) parenting, and 2. Youth Criminal Justice system. But then why should the YCJ system be any different than our "catch and release" program for adult offenders. I sure hope the Harper government's Crime bill gets passed and soon.

john and george, who think this is a tempest in a teapot, are, IMO, either woefully ignorant or wilfully obtuse about today's youth, Justthinkin and a different Bob have got it about right. (Syncrodox too: I salute you!)

Since the Charter, kids' "rights" have become sacrosanct. Just about everyone—parents and schools—are afraid to discipline them. We now have a crop of entitled "toddlers" who think they can do whatever they like—and get away with it. In most cases, they would be right. As Yukon Gold observes, with our future in the hands of so many irresponsible louts, we're in big trouble.

Note that Rudy Guiliani turned New York around by using the "Broken Window" approach: hit the kids hard on their first offence. For most, it'll be their last. Overlook the first offence and the few after and they escalate.

I see this happening all the time in the public school system. The Behaviour Codes are only for show: they say what behaviours are supposed to occur. When the codes are broken, as they are countless times every day, administration caves. Consequences? Too"punitive”: the kids and their parents might get upset. Overwhelmed by the sheer volume of anti-social behaviours in their schools, administration soon turns a blind eye. “Hear no evil, see no evil” is probably board policy now for administrators, they so rarely do anything constructive to deal with the very serious misdemeanours of the growing number of miscreants in our midst.

The arrogant and destructive behaviour of these young men is no small thing: it shows the utmost disrespect for the rights of others. If that's the mindset that motivates them, stay tuned for more self-referential, selfish, anti-social behaviour. I don't think they're the kind of people one would want for an employee, a son-in-law, or father of one's grandchildren. Yes, PMSH’s Crime Bills, which, I believe, will contain some "Broken Window" provisions, can’t come too soon.

BTW, george and john, if you discovered a baby python or scorpion in your basement, would you say, “Don’t worry, it’s just little”? Smarten up, guys.

I know you kids are reading this. I hope you enjoyed your moment of fame and feel real proud of your so-called couragous acts. You all look like idiots.

I dare you to find some real courage and every last one of you individually appologize to the homeowners and candidates whose property you vandalized. Offer your help as restitution. Too chicken? I thought so.

BATB

I am a divorced conservative but no less real then when I was married. FYI we have been divorced for about ten years so I think the boy has had time to adjust and frankly I don't buy the root cause chorus BS. His, mine, hell all of our circumstances are what they are. The cards are dealt and what matters is how we play them.

The fact is I grew up in an intact home and got into more than my share of shit. The real problem with the boy is he's more like me than me. Strong willed and a little rough around the edges. Which were both contributing factors in my divorce.

That said, My job as his dad is to show him that there are consequences for his behavior both positive and negative. Strong personality characteristics can be the source of much strength and at the same time our greatest weakness.

In short.....As an individual I need to learn how to operate my own badass self...so does the boy.

Syncro

Here's an idea for some constructive discipline. Replacing and putting up more signs is a little late at this point in the campaign, but since they wanted to take down signs . . .
After the election, have them collect, neatly stack and return signs to the candidates' campaign offices (under parental supervision of course).

And today's award for " Going Off On A Tangent And Getting Lost" goes to:

Knight of Good Mr. Iron Man, for his thoughts on lawn signs are boring anyhow. Vandalism is still vandalism, whether or not the signs are effective is irrelevant. Your picket fence in your yard doesn't work because I can jump over it so therefore I can destroy it because it is boring...

RJW, well said! Your consequences are exactly the kind that are needed: first, acknowledge the wrongdoing: forget the excuses; second, apologize for it; third, do something constructive, that costs some humility, time, and effort, in order to provide restitution to the victim(s).

I like your challenge to these young men: I hope they have the cojones to take you up on it.

Unfortunately, even if they want to do the right thing, there will probably be a phalanx of ill-adjusted "adults" who will defend these boys' "right" to be coddled and excused. I see it all the time. And, as all kinds of posters have said, no wonder these kids behave the way they do.

That said, enough is enough: it's time they face the music. (In the short run, this actually shows respect for them by holding them to a high standard of behaviour; in the long run, accountability will benefit them and the rest of us. Win/win.)

Guess these "kids" are not afraid of consequences. There is no fear of their parents or the law.
In my day, everything I did, I knew that I would have to face my DAD!

Maybe their daycare will post a bulletin on the wall about respect.

Just out of curiosity, are the Hamilton brothers any relation to Doreen Hamilton, MLA from Regina?

From my previous post:
I know you kids are reading this. I hope you enjoyed your moment of fame and feel real proud of your so-called couragous acts. You all look like idiots.
I dare you to find some real courage and every last one of you individually appologize to the homeowners and candidates whose property you vandalized. Offer your help as restitution. Too chicken? I thought so.

I understand some appologies were made and restitution in the form of cleaning up signs will be done after the election.

Bravo! There is hope for the younger generation.

Andrew, word on coffee row is that the Hamilton brothers parents are a lawyer for the CRC and the other an eye doctor. Apparently whichever household the two boys come from it is a politically charged enviornment! Kudos to their youngest son Will for having the courage to come forward and apologize for his actions this morning. Apparently he is going to help Terry Alms take down signs after the election is over. No word on the other kids as of yet.

Brian, what's the CRC?

I think it is great that all the boys appologised this morning and agreed to help take down signs. Who wasnt a little "shitbag" at one time, and to be completely honest they wanted to get caught to make a stand on their position. otherwise what good would a broken sign on a front lawn be... yah just a broken sign, BUT THESE BOYS DID IT IN STYLE!!! and two cents for John Gormley. Hey you should quit rippin on those kids parents! Im pretty sure they are good people ... or did your mamma raise you to be an asshole to?

downwithsigns writes, "Im [sic] pretty sure they are good people ... or did your mamma [sic] raise you [sic] to be an asshole to [sic]?

Spell/Grammar Check's easy to use, which would work for three of the four errors. Who's "you"?

On second reading, it appears as though downwithsigns meant "you" to refer to John Gormley. Though by harping on his/her spelling and grammar, I kind of look like an asshole too.

The creator of the group and his fellow criminals masterminds are from affluent homes on the city's east side. This is not a case of poverty run amok. Unfortunately, I can say from knowing the family of Will Hamilton that the concept of entitlement, and spoiled brat syndrome, is a family tradition and I'm sure that nothing will be done at home to remedy this.

Oh and for interest sake - the father is a fairly well respected doctor and the mother a lawyer (how's that for irony).

I wonder why Hamilton and his crew failed to knock down the sign that adorns his own mother's front yard??

Brian - the mother of the Hamilton kid is a lawyer but not for the CRC - she works for a non-profit organization in the city. The info on the dad is correct.

Here's hoping the creator of this group, Will Hamilton, is not of any relation to our Chief Electoral Officer of Saskatoon, David Hamilton.

Can it at least be confirmed one way or the other that they are't the offspring of David Hamilton. If they are his kids I believe he must resign.

Just out of curiosity, are the Hamilton brothers any relation to Doreen Hamilton, MLA from Regina?

Hey, are the brothers related to perpetually suntanned actor, George Hamilton? Or Terminator-asskicking Golden Globe-nominated actor, Linda Hamilton? Or British F1 Racing phenom, Lewis Hamilton? Or perhaps any one of these folks?

Jesus Christ, you SDA conspiracy nutters...

Just read over at NDPBoogyman that two of the kids have connections to the NDP party. Will Hamilton is nephew of current Greystone Heights MLA Peter Prebble, and David Fodey is nephew to Jim Fodey, former NDP caucus chief of staff. Anyone who thinks their destruction of Saskatchewan Party signs was not partisan should give their head a shake.