Anti-Americanism in Europe - a six part documentary in Youtube.
Looks like the videos have all been removed from you tube.
Posted by: MikeP at October 28, 2007 11:25 AMOH crap. I was saving that for this weekend, and should have checked....
Posted by: Kate at October 28, 2007 11:35 AMWait - I did check again just now. They seem to be working fine for me. There are six different videos on the linked page - perhaps it's the loading time?
Posted by: Kate at October 28, 2007 11:43 AMThey still play on the guy's website Kate. A bit slow, but working.
These videos remind me of me when I first moved to New York in 1993. I was paranoid as hell for the first six months, expecting hordes of muggers and who knows what.
Then, gradually, I discovered that pretty much everything I thought I knew about the USA and New York was complete crap. Utterly wrong. Absolute nonsense. I was expecting NYC to be like a Hollywood movie, since that's pretty much all I knew about it. Surprise, it isn't that way.
After a year of asking questions and walking around with my eyes open, I concluded that the USA has suffered from the most vile hate campaign imaginable since the 1960's. Conducted by their own media too.
At first I was embarrassed at having been so completely suckered by the whole scam, but then I met some Manhattan Islanders who believed it all too. In spite of the fact they lived there and could see it wasn't true every morning when they went for coffee. So then I didn't feel quite so bad. It is an -effective- propaganda campaign.
The Euros think America sucks because they've been watching American TV too much. Same TV I was watching.
Its nice to see the NY Slimes and Time/Warner and all those LYING BASTARDS finally reaping what they've sown for all these years. Bring on the whirlwind!
Posted by: The Phantom at October 28, 2007 12:01 PMI should add that part of my education was listening to Rush Limbaugh at the local gun shop and talking to all the cops and soldiers that came in, then comparing that to all the stuff I was hearing on the MSM and at medical school.
Rush Limbaugh came out ahead in accuracy. By a mile. (That's about a kilometer and a half, for you metric lovin' Lefties.)
That's why Limbaugh has 25 million listeners daily and the NY Slimes is bleeding red ink. Now ask yourselves why we don't have anything like the Rush Limbaugh Show in Canadian radio. Boils down to four letters. C.R.T.C.
Posted by: The Phantom at October 28, 2007 12:15 PMPhantom (pardon me... "you crazy Scotsman"),
just what in the heck did you think the US was like before you came to the US?
Before I started posting up here I thought that Canadians were in disagreement with some of our foreign policy initiatives, and so they bounced off that with a lot of amplified, perjorative, inflammatory rhetoric.
Because of posting here and earlier at the Shotgun, I have become aware of the fact that a lot of Canadian opinion is much subtler, malevolent, and nuanced than what I've said above.
This is all really weird to Americans who basically think of Canadians (as I've said before) as friends and extended relatives.
It now appears to me that Canadians see the spectre of some kind of metaphysical flaw or evil in Americans. Too enlightened to see it as a touch of Lucifer himself, but some sort of ontological evil or taint that would require an exorcism rather than a simple change of opinion.
So kindly do a simple Texan a favor should you have the time: Just what does the average Canadian think is going on down here in the US? Cause some of the things I've heard Canadians say are not just wrong, they border on the enigmatic.
Posted by: Greg in Dallas at October 28, 2007 1:31 PMDegenerate socialism cultures and encourages scapegoating economically successful nations for the failures of socialism to provide similar opportunity/affluence for its nanny-state sucklings.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at October 28, 2007 2:04 PMthe politics if envy...number one public manipulator in the dogmatic socialist's arsenal.
Other than this vile over tone, all I saw was a bunch of Euro-trash making typical buffoons of themselves with their fraudulent superiority.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at October 28, 2007 2:13 PMI pretty much thought of it as the kind of place where you could expect to really -need- a .45 automatic, and that New Yorkers would be the kind of morons who would put up with that kind of environment. It's the message that's unrelentingly pounded on -American- network TV all day every day.
Example, there's this crime show on Wednesday night called Life. Last Wednesday the story is about a Russian mobster throwing some stripper out a window, Our Hero arrests the guy, but he walks because Homeland Security is using him as a snitch to catch terrorist arms shipments in the War On Terror. Translation, the US government is corrupt to its very core, and Americans are idiots for letting this happen and voting for Bush.
There is no movie or TV show or news cast (other than talk radio and Fox news) which does not have this message. Half the political class in the USA is running on the message that the USA is some kind of post-apocalyptic dump where the poor are left to die in the streets, old people eat pet food, and torture is a spectator sport in military prisons.
What the hell is anyone supposed to think, given that? Our media just takes that message and runs with it. Harper is Satan because he won't denounce George Bush and the Republicans. Why, because George Bush lets Russian mobsters throw innocent yet really well endowed strippers out of windows.
There's no logic involved. All propaganda, all the time.
Posted by: The Phantom at October 28, 2007 2:17 PMMeh. I've seen far worse demonstrations of Anti-Americanism while travelling inside of America. In fact, during my travels in Europe this summer (primarily Norway and the UK) I found the average person have a positive feeling of America even if there were some criticisms.
Posted by: Ryan at October 28, 2007 4:17 PMI finally had a chance to watch the whole thing. Very funny and pretty interesting. A few reflections...
It seems to me that the anti-Americanism is actually frustration over the success of capitalism and technology.
The partnership between capitalism and technology has been a tremendous success, at least in their own terms. However, neither capitalism nor technology is exclusive to the US, though of course America has been very much in the vanguard.
Today big business becomes more and more multi-national.
I also sympathize with some like France who feel that their culture is being taken over by the imperatives of economic pressure.
I doubt that there is anything to be done about it; at the same time, if you don't want your puppet show to be taken over by Mickey Mouse, there's no reason why you should feel good about it.
I'm afraid they will simply find it necessary to adapt, because it's not likely that anything will stop the forward momentum of globalism and the global economy.
In the US, we gripe about US problems constantly, and that is what makes our gripes different from the ones on YouTube.
They're all griping about things that are largely unknown or irrelevant to Americans when we have huge problems all the time that demand attention yesterday.
For example the Pole griping about Puerto Ricans. Well, Puerto Rico is a US territory, and to the best of my knowledge, our big problems these days are with illegal Mexican immigrants. So we have an enormous brouha going on about illegal aliens, but that doesn't include people who are part of an American territory.
Incidentally, the Canadian retail chain CVS is making enormous inroads in the US. (It might help if they were offer decent service -- hire enough employees.) But we have companies here that originate from other countries all the time.
Posted by: Greg in Dallas at October 28, 2007 7:26 PMJust back from a hike with a group here on the Left Coast. One of them said he was going to Cuba (again) before Raul Castro loses power and "the Americans come in and ruin it....turn it into another Cancun".
He then laughed and said he "kinda likes the third world abience". Another chimed in to say that it'w "authentic" (unlike Cancun, I assume).
I wanted to call him on both his willingness to spend Canadian money on a communist regime (but hey, it's his money) and his assumption that a booming tourist market economy ala' Cancun, was a bad thing.
But it was a nice day and I just didn't want to get into a big debate. I just said, "Gee, I wonder how the third world Cubans serving you enjoy their third world authenticity?"
The smug moral superiority I see here in Canada is disgusting - especially those on the left who actually exploit third world Cubans for their own amusement and comfort because they like 'charm and authenticity' during their comfortable champagne socialist vacations.
Posted by: no guff at October 28, 2007 10:10 PMI think that one of the big causes of anti-Americanism is their historical isolationism. The person that pointed out that being anti-communist in post war Poland is actually taking a risk is correct, and the same goes for folks in Czeksolvakia, Hungry and Rommania as well. But in quite a few Americans seem disinclined to travel and actually see other countries. I was born in New York City and at the time my father was working wor SAS airlines, a job he got after he left Bomber Command in the 50's. A co-worker was going to drive to Las Vegas for his honeymoon and when asked why he passed up the free 1st class tickets to anywhere SAS flew his response was "too many foreigners".
Also there is the thing that many Europeans look at the US and understand that their culture has had an impact on the US culture, especially Britain, and that this contribution should somehow lead to a continued mentor role. Kinda like saying look, class isn't over yet.
So there is this disjoint, one country's citizens unwilling to leave and experience another country and other countries' thinking they still haven't finished teaching the needed lessons.
Posted by: Iain at October 29, 2007 8:33 PM