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October 16, 2007

Watch Dion

Swallow like a man.

That's my prediction.

Open thread on the throne speech.

I'm in a deliciously mean-spirited mood, so watching a CBC alumnus read this is sweet, though I swear I just saw her husband try to claw fabric off the arm of that chair.


Reaction from Liberal leader Stephane Dion:

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Dion: "This is not fair."

No huge surprises in the leak.

Posted by: Ryan at October 16, 2007 6:52 PM

The GG's "Piat D'Or" accent is fake.

Posted by: Andrew at October 16, 2007 7:05 PM

You can hear her gag a bit speaking all those conservative words: "hard work", "accountable", etc.

Posted by: Andrew at October 16, 2007 7:07 PM

i know its against the rules, but I can't help feeling a little teeny weeny, weeny bit sorry for Steffi.

Despite his problems being the political equivalent of self-inflicted wounds.

See how he bleeds.
See how he bleeds.


Posted by: Fred at October 16, 2007 7:13 PM

The GG's husband--I can't remember his name--looks very uncomfortable indeed. And, yes, I'm sure that the accolades for the present, "clean government" must have been very difficult for her to read as well. But, hey, that's the price of accepting a political appointment with loads of perqs.

But I'm sure the GG and "mari" will be heroes with all their leftie friends for making such a sacrifice, and they'll be commiserated with for bravely condescending to be in such close proximity to C(c)onservative neanderthals.

On the other hand, I'm heartily enjoying every pin to the Liberal/NDP/Bloc/Green balloons.

You go, Stephen!

Posted by: lookout at October 16, 2007 7:22 PM

Phil Fontaine wears emo glasses.

Posted by: Andrew at October 16, 2007 7:25 PM

Indeed:

Tax cuts -- NOT FAIR!

Tough on crime -- NOT FAIR!

Reasonable approach to global warming -- NOT FAIR!

How much longer before Dion finally slits his wrists or does the honourable thing, like that Japanese agriculture minister several months ago, and hangs himself on a door hinge?

Posted by: Werner Patels at October 16, 2007 7:34 PM

thank goodness this tripe only represents 36% of this great country...bring on the election.

Posted by: Sean S. at October 16, 2007 7:37 PM

Arg - I'm stuck without a radio or TV, and the firewall won't let me watch live... Somebody please tell me what's going on?

Posted by: virtual at October 16, 2007 7:37 PM

virtual - GG is reading how we can't meet our Kyoto targets, beautiful stuff.

Posted by: Andrew at October 16, 2007 7:39 PM

Steffi courtesy the Red Star. No autopsy required.

http://multimedia.thestar.com/images/assets/178289_3.JPG

Posted by: maz2 at October 16, 2007 7:39 PM

As a teacher, I've also noted the GG's extremely disrespectful posture.

If I were working with a student, I'd point out that leaning forward, with hunched shoulders, head down, legs leaning to one side--left, BTW!--and holding the book, resting on her knee, on one side--also the left!--is not an appropriate way to deliver a public message of this kind or importance. The GG also scratched her forehead at one point, while also looking quite bored.

Of course, all of this is quite deliberate on her part: she does want pats on the back from her ilk.

However, if she were open to coaching, I'd tell her to sit up straight with her shoulders aligned, back against the chair, legs facing straight ahead. I'd tell her to hold the book directly in front of her (get a rest for it if necessary), with her head held respectfully high. If possible, I'd suggest she look up at her audience on occasion and read with conviction and expression. I'd also counsel against scratching her face while reading.

Is this too much to expect from a person who's Canada's representative of the Queen and paid very large Canadian taxpayer bucks to do her job?

(The speech has just finished. Her haughty body language is a disgrace.)

Posted by: lookout at October 16, 2007 7:46 PM

What a wonderful picture of Dion hanging himself with his own scarf. A picture tells a thousand words.

Posted by: jack at October 16, 2007 7:51 PM

Great images, all. Sorry I missed it.

Posted by: virtual at October 16, 2007 8:01 PM

I agree with lookout. After kicking Dion in the ass, then next person in line should be the GG. For heaven's sake, look like a head of state for once.

Posted by: mark peters at October 16, 2007 8:02 PM

My favourite part was half-way through the speech (before the mention of Kyoto) when CBC put on the screen something like "Jack Layton tells CBC the NDP will vote against the throne speech." Well, duhhh.

If a Conservative throne speech said, "the grass is green, the sun is warm, and the sky is blue", the NDP would refuse to support it.

Posted by: bryceman at October 16, 2007 8:08 PM

Oh hum. Same-ole same-ole. Held my nose and voted Regressive Conservative last time will not do that again. No change. Same shit, different pile, same stink.

Posted by: Tony W at October 16, 2007 8:09 PM

I can imagine how funny it must have been to see our left-wing GG reading a Conservative throne speech.

"Lookout" thanks for your very interesting comments.

Everyone new the truth of course from day one: our GG was appointed not because she was the best and brightest candidate for the job, but because she fit liberal ideology.


Posted by: TJ at October 16, 2007 8:13 PM

Bloc sitrep by Gilles
NDP sitrep by Jack
Liberal sitrep by Iggy?

Posted by: Jim at October 16, 2007 8:16 PM

Those critizing the throne speech must be off the deep end on the right or the left. It is definitely a conservative throne speech. It contains tax cuts, defense spending, returning of jurisdictions to the provinces, Senate reform, and law and order measures.

Posted by: Ryan at October 16, 2007 8:17 PM

And of course watching this meant a great personal sacrifice, namely tuning into CBC.... have not done that in about 5 months

Posted by: Jim at October 16, 2007 8:18 PM

What a great throne speech by the Harper government.

Dion should bring down the government and then we can make sure all of Harper's agenda is passed.

Posted by: Fred Bracken at October 16, 2007 8:22 PM

Kate ,
C'mon we need cake .

Posted by: Bill D.Cat at October 16, 2007 8:23 PM

"Given the disarray in the party, one senior Grit said Dion's preference for an election [sic] is "suicidal'' ...
ctv.ca
Two of Citoyen's cabbages lost their heads today.
Will Citoyen now wear the scarf voluntarily and stef down?
Will he take the three steps forward as ordered by the hangmen of the Liberal Party?
The suspense ends here!
...-

Posted by: maz2 at October 16, 2007 8:25 PM

Swallow like a man tho ...... not bad .

Posted by: Bill D.Cat at October 16, 2007 8:29 PM

Preston Manning for GG. Then, load up the next throne speech with the word Reforrrrm. Promise to reforrrrrm the CBC. The Senate. Federal-provincial relations.

The entire media-political complex -- Liberals/CBC/NDP/Greens will blow a cyborg gasket.

Posted by: Richard Ball at October 16, 2007 8:35 PM

the patronizing,blather & b.s.that came out of the 'igster'was just a puke-fest! I cannot take listening to that self important prig.

Posted by: Sammy at October 16, 2007 8:37 PM

I thought it was an excellent throne speech, specific and clear. None of that empty rhetoric of empty promises. Very specific.

It had a focus on development (the north is emphasized, applied research is emphasized, the economy); on enabling better economic productivity (interprovincial trade, lowered corporate, capital and consumer taxes); more power to the provinces - exactly as our original federation was set up to run. Honesty about Kyoto and instead, a clear agenda of dealing with emissions and pollution.

Again- an excellent, practical platform. Not utopian and vapid (as were the Liberal agendas).

The GG? I didn't get that impression that lookout received. I certainly have never agreed with her as the GG; there were many people who have contributed to Canada who would have made a better choice, rather than a separatiste French citizen (and her husband is the same). But, I didn't get the impression from her posture that she was undignified or disrespectful. I thought she carried out her role very well, and - read the paper well - except for the accent. [The majority of Canadians are anglophones; why do so many of our public figures have trouble speaking English????]

An excellent agenda, Mr. Harper. Layton opposes? Not because he cares about Canada, but he wants an election NOW, for partisan reasons. He's after weak Liberal seats.
Duceppe? He wants an election for partisan reasons as well. He wants to get his Bloc re-elected before the Conservatives eat up more Bloc seats.

Dion? He's like Chretien; a narcissist. And, he still thinks he's in the seminar room, where what he says - it The Sole Truth. He actually thinks the Liberals can win an election.

But, the rest of the party are scared stiff of being reduced to nothing in the House. The only Liberals who want an election are those who would use it to get rid of Dion. And - can you imagine - but Duffy and Newman are actually saying this openly, publicly, as a Liberal tactic - to get rid of Dion.

I'm not sure of the roles of Rae and Ignatieff. Is Rae bonded to Dion - and is Ignatieff the Evil One? Would an election be set up so that Rae would effectively be the public persona, rather than Dion?

Posted by: ET at October 16, 2007 8:37 PM

One word to describe the look on the faces of every single opposition member I've seen interviewed:

panick.

Posted by: biff at October 16, 2007 8:38 PM

Jim, you're right about the sacrifice of tuning in to CBC: my husband and I commented that nothing's changed--the same talking heads taking ages to say NOTHING (but biased, left-wing nothing) worth listening to. The only reason we stayed tuned in afterwards was to see what the Conservative representative would say. WHAT Conservative? There wasn't one.

I have to give Iggy credit though. When his interviewer opened with a nod to the NDP--gross unprofessionalism (and earlier, Keith Boag couldn't get one sentence out coherently!)--he soundly put her, and the NDP, in their place.

Posted by: lookout at October 16, 2007 8:38 PM

lookout @ 7:46pm:

You're bang-on. But what can you expect from an emotive appointment from dilettante Martin. He couldn't see past that she was a ho-hum CBC journalist, female, minority - the perfect Lib combination. Credentials? Distinguished career? Service to the country? What the heck do those matter?

Harper should have bought out her term as soon as he took office and arranged an appointment to that office for someone who had the gravitas and the credentials to occupy it. Someone above suggested Preston Manning; that would have been a decent choice. Alternatively, just eliminate the office and briefly endure the disentitled screams of a generation of CBCers.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at October 16, 2007 8:50 PM

'Course I shouldn't be surprised: On the CBC, it's all about the Liberals.

Liberals, Liberals, Liberals.

What will Dion's reaction be? Libs lost their Quebec lieutenant. Blah, bloody, Librano, blah, blah, blah...

Except for Prime Minister Stephen Harper sitting beside the GG, you'd barely know that Canada had a sitting Conservative Government.

Thanks, lookout, for your perceptive analysis of the GG and her husband's body language. I noticed it too. Michaelle Jean looked tired and bored; and you could almost hear the internal gag reflex every time she said something complimentary about the CPC achievements over the past two years.

LOL!!

And, mark peters, I'm with you about the GG looking vice-regal for a change. She looked more elegant as a two-bit, politically correct journalist. Jean's and her husband's obvious lack of respect for the office she holds is disconcerting, to say the least.

She needs to go.

Posted by: 'been around the block at October 16, 2007 8:51 PM

SH's first GG appt immediately after the CP gets a majority is a no-brainer - the most famous man in Canada - Don Cherry.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at October 16, 2007 8:51 PM

This carbon-emissions-trading thing better be a joke...hopefully it will be along the same timeline as the 2050 emissions targets.

Otherwise, a great speech. A terrific platform to run an election on, if the Liberals are stupid enough to pull the plug. If the Libs want an election over this, they'll be running against crime fighting, another GST cut, broad income tax cuts, and a federalism policy that Quebecers love. It would be suicide.

Posted by: flaggman at October 16, 2007 8:52 PM

Mickey I., when interviewed, gave the impression of a dauphin.

I thought the GG combined an outfit that was close to sexy with great dignified use of black and decoration. Couture at its best. Plus her English, if one listens closely, is much closer to received standard English as spoken by someone not from Britain (note her lack of "r"s) than anything like a Quebecois or French-French accent.

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 16, 2007 8:54 PM

"I'm in a deliciously mean-spirited mood..."

I'm not sure that this is anything new. ;)

Beyond that, the throne speech was pretty moderate, hardly a win for conservatism in this country.

In fact I would submit that if you identify as a conservative and you're jumping for joy over this speech, you have shown that you're actually more of a party hack than a true conservative. It might be a win for Harper, but not a win conservatives, at least in the short term.

Posted by: steve at October 16, 2007 8:54 PM

Watching Stephane Dion figurativly wetting his pants in public is entertaining...I'm actually going to miss him (after the next election).

Best quote I've seen this past week about Dion (by a columnist whose name I forget): "Stephane Dion makes Barney the Dinosaur look like a Navy Seal".

Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2007 9:02 PM

Good thing my teacher was not there, she would have been after the GG with her yardstick, first a whack across the legs, then down her dress to make her sit up. I love it when lefties have to pretend to support PMSH.
Dion's prayer, Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray my party I can keep.

Posted by: MaryT at October 16, 2007 9:02 PM

steve: Whether or not one agrees with the tactics, it's the Flanagan strategy.

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 16, 2007 9:03 PM

steve @ 8:54: "It might be a win for Harper, but not a win conservatives, at least in the short term."

Isn't this what it's all about at this point: the short term? Until the CPC has a majority, politics in Canada is definitely the art of the possible...

Posted by: 'been around the block at October 16, 2007 9:05 PM

Kate,
Why no MSM comment on this line in the speech.
It will again ask Parliament to repeal the wasteful long-gun registry.

Posted by: Bill Franks at October 16, 2007 9:06 PM

Does anyone recall a time when the Leader of the Opposition (of any parliamentary democracy) ran and hid following a Throne Speech?

Might as well give the job to Iggy right now.

Harper says Dion's Kyoto has no clothes... and the guy turtles in the shadows? Wow.

For anyone who didn't already know that Dion is a dead man walking in terms of his current job... his abdication of his duties tonight put an exclamation mark on it.

I can see the Liberals triggering an election and taking their medicine... just to get rid of their boat anchor of a 'leader.'

Posted by: gwgm at October 16, 2007 9:06 PM

steve, look at the big picture. Reduced centralism, tax cuts, Senate reform, crime legislation - it's all good stuff. But if you're looking for a first-term minority PM to sound like Anne Coulter or Mark Steyn, you're dreaming. Harper's doing better than anyone could have predicted. Cut him some slack and enjoy the fact that some good things are happening - as opposed to nothing good happening in the previous, what, 100 years?

Posted by: flaggman at October 16, 2007 9:06 PM

flaggman and batb, at this point, my sentiments re PMSH exactly.

Posted by: lookout at October 16, 2007 9:11 PM

Laytons on Tv now pontificating about how his party is going to act on principle.But Jack,do you want an election now? Jack says,in too many words"I am going to avoid that question".Harper rocks,I haven't felt this good about Canada's future since the conservatives won thier minority.

Posted by: wallyj at October 16, 2007 9:12 PM

Good point, Mark. That's likely what's annoying steve, he was hoping for something "extreme" to scare people.
Although, I'm sure we all appreciated his advice regarding the appropriate degree of joy we should be feeling. When it comes to identifying a "party hack" it's tough to beat a liberal's powers of perception.

Posted by: dean spencer - fox at October 16, 2007 9:14 PM

Also,Marcel Proulx did not "resign",he was asked to quit by Dion. Dion was hoping to save a little face and Marcel just stabbed him in the back. This is great.

Posted by: wallyj at October 16, 2007 9:14 PM

A couple things I thought I heard on CBC's "wrap-up":

1. Boag actually spun "clean government" as a referral to environmental policy when he was speaking to Don Newman.
2. Susan (forgot-her-last-name), without any source or speculation, nor reaction from Newman, said twice that Dion is deciding whether he needs to go.

Did I misinterpret?

Posted by: L'il Walter at October 16, 2007 9:16 PM

Great,moving Throne Speech! Opposition stumbling over each other trying to find fault. All negative comments were scripted many days ago and were identical from representatives on CTV and CBC.
By the way,the coverage by CTV (Mike Duffy) was much superior to the CBC. Biggest disappointment was no mention of privatizing the CBC, turfing the Board and firing all producers--when will the Conservatives have the balls!!

Posted by: Mike Kyoto at October 16, 2007 9:20 PM

Go Stephen! Govern like you have a majority! Kill Kyoto. Kill the gun legislaltion (no pun intented). Force the vote. Canadians are finally getting it that you are not to be feared. Canadians are finally getting it that they have honest, responsible government.

Posted by: a different Bob at October 16, 2007 9:21 PM

Bill Franks: "...our Government...will again ask Parliament to repeal the wasteful long-gun registry."

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 16, 2007 9:28 PM

I love the delcious irony of this.

Not too long ago it was the Liberals that were attacking the NDP for helping to defeat their minority Government and installing Harper and the Tories. NOW it is Liberals having to weather attacks by the NDP on very possibly supporting the same Government that the Liberals attacked the NDP for helping install in the first place. Liberals - all hypocrisy, all the time.

What is more, yet another prominent Liberal quits on Dion. Just another example of Dion's "leadership" train continuing its slow motion crash.

Smell that fresh autumn air people, its a great time to be a Conservative! :-D

Posted by: Lycan Stark at October 16, 2007 9:40 PM

GWGM at 9:06 Dions no show was remarkable. Was there an official excuse I missed on why he could not be there to show his leadership?.

How tough could it be? Answer a few softball questions with a few routine answers and go home until tomorrow. That he was not there was one of the key stories of the night. The media not asking Iggy why was another.

Not showing on this night says to me Dion has lost the choice in whether he stays or goes.

My guess is that he will step down, and with no time or money for a leadership convention, Iggy will take over as party leader prior to any election. Media will swoon.

Posted by: ward at October 16, 2007 9:49 PM

Could there be anything more hilarious than Jack and Gilles ( pun intended ) , lined up to give their opinions BEFORE the speech had even ended .

Posted by: Bill D.Cat at October 16, 2007 9:50 PM

Well, once in a very long while I wish I had my TV plugged in and a cable subscription. I'll just have to take all your words for it or go see if I can find it on the net.

Posted by: Louise at October 16, 2007 9:54 PM

Swallow like a man. I think there is a pretty good chance he will spit because his party wants to dump him and the sooner the better.

They could even break ranks and vote against the speech knowing that their leader doesn't have the power to punish them, nor will be around long enough after the election to do anything to them.

This is great entertainment ... Spit or Swallow ... nice metaphor.

Posted by: John West at October 16, 2007 9:56 PM

I was watchin the CTV coverage with the big Duff.

It was so much fun watchin the liberals take both sides of the story... even the same person with conflicting positions.

Liberal: "Terrible speech, full of emptiness. Nothing in it for the poor, nothing for the environment, nothing for the economy, the wrong road on foreign affairs. etc etc"

Media: "But Mr. Liberal person (any one of them) Will you vote for or against this speech with nothing in it that you cannot stand for."

Liberal: "Well we are not sure. Canadians don't really want an election and we are going to have to balance going to the polls with doing what we believe."


Which is it going to be? Are the Liberals going to stand up for what they believe (or atleast their retoric? Or are they going to support Harper today. Will they end up doing either?

It's a good thing they have a strong leader to help them through this tough decision. lmao

Posted by: Barcs at October 16, 2007 10:00 PM

This is a great thread, but it's important to keep in perspective the fact that this whole ordeal is just as painful for Liberal faithful like the CBC, as it is for Dion.

At this rate, Harper will remain the Prime Minister uncontested as Bush retires, leaving leftists everywhere fresh out of lame talking points...

Posted by: Knight of Good Mr. Iron Man at October 16, 2007 10:05 PM

what can you say other than

CBCpravda -All Liberal, All the Time

everything is about the liberal spin, surviving the vote,
who gives a rats bahouki about governing the country, crime , taxes, stealing money, its all about some political game to get the libs back in power with a guy that couldnt beat Kim Campbell in a fistfight.

Posted by: cal2 at October 16, 2007 10:15 PM

Nice to see PM Stephen Harper flanked by Rick Hillier. True leadership on display!

Posted by: Fed-Up in NWO at October 16, 2007 10:16 PM

WARD @ 9:49 p.m.,

The jackals are always so adamant that they ask the tough questions, so you're right, it is astounding that no one admitted that the BIG NEWS of the night is that the supposed leader of the Liberal Party of Canada snuck out the back door without commenting on the Throne Speech.

Having Iggy perform Dion's duties this evening is on par with the Toronto Maple Laughs openly interviewing / courting "advisors" like Scotty Bowman to watch over John Ferguson Jr.'s shoulder while JFJ still wears the ceremonial title of General Manager.

Dion's vanishing act is THE STORY. Dion will be formally finished when the Liberal reporters (redundant?!) start to talk about - and demand answers for - why he's missing in action.

At that point, they will have received their orders from the real leaders of the LPC that it's time to turn the page on Dion.

Posted by: gwgm at October 16, 2007 10:21 PM

ward was bang-on with his last prediction awhile back --- media will turn on Dion, sacrifice him (quickly), then try again --- pump up the next Lib-leader.

ward's next could also nail it ---- Iggy to campaign pinch hit, media will swoon. Dion ? Babbling Idiot comes to mind. Intellectual ?? A misnomer.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at October 16, 2007 10:25 PM

Gulp!

Syncro

Posted by: Syncrdox at October 16, 2007 10:38 PM

cal2,That is so unfair,I happen to know that right now steffi's wife is teaching him how to make a fist. Ee is a orrier and an ero.Leave steffi alone !!!!!!!!

Posted by: wallyj at October 16, 2007 10:39 PM

Harper isn't worried about Iggy...it's Rae he fears. Iggy has no political instincts, Rae's are finely tuned. And Rae is a two-headed monster, with his brother behind-the-scenes working for him.

Posted by: flaggman at October 16, 2007 10:45 PM

The GG and her husband were a complete disgrace to the Throne speech. They are both so far left that if the world was flat they would fall off. We all knew Joke Layton and Le Separatist were going to vote against the Throne speech before it was given, and the Lieberals under Citoyen Dion( this dual citizenship will haunt him in the future, the Prime minister of Canada cannot have citizenship ties to another country)are all over the map, are in complete disarray tripping over each other wondering what to do...

Posted by: argee at October 16, 2007 10:59 PM

More to the point, Flaggman, Rae has Powercorp in his corner.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at October 16, 2007 11:01 PM

The throne speech: What I hoped for but not what I wanted.
I hoped PMSH would steer a centrist good government course leaving the opposition nothing to shoot at and nothing for the "mushy middle" to get upset about during the next election.
I wanted PMSH to steer a socially rightist course that tears down the PC industry in Canada.

Posted by: Joe at October 16, 2007 11:04 PM

How can Taliban Jack and Stephane vote against establishing Canada's claim for ARTIC sovereignty.
Harper will chew them up for breakfast on the campaign trail.

Posted by: Mr Perfect at October 16, 2007 11:06 PM

Every time that chipmunk-faced Elizabeth May shows herself on TV, I immediately have to change the channel before a word comes out of her nut-cracking mouth. She annoys me even more than Jack Layton does, lately. I know what she's gonna say before she says it and I won't even pretend to listen anymore. Stuck record.

Posted by: Soccermom at October 16, 2007 11:08 PM

Watch for the MSM's reaction to tax cuts.

Here's my prediction ... they're going to bribe us with our own money.

Posted by: set you free at October 16, 2007 11:13 PM

What made the throne speech even more delicious was the installation of an ELECTED senator, Albertan Bert Brown, on the same day. Game, set, match to Stephen Harper!

Posted by: Anne in swON at October 16, 2007 11:21 PM

Anyone willing to bet that citoyen Dion never actually does visit Afghanistan before the long knives of his lieberal friends bury themselves between his shoulder blades?

And this putz actually has the cojones to talk about our Afghan role in the House?

BTW, I'm in total agreement that the GG & her pool boy have got to go... total disgrace to the office.

Posted by: Alienated at October 16, 2007 11:39 PM

"Gee Gee, I-can't-read"'s lifepartner just gives me the creeps.
Now that the harvests over, do all the scarecrows get new suits?
Not really the point, though.

If princess steffani wanted to hold onto his entitlements and self delusional visions of adequacy, he would have to support the throne speech.
Surely he knows Bob Rae, Iggy and "the family" over at Power corp will throw him under the first bus, after he loses the election only he, right now, can stop.

I'm crystal balling that with only his own self interest in mind, Steffi chugs it down with a smile.

Posted by: richfisher at October 17, 2007 1:05 AM

Interesting times indeed.

I noticed that one of DeYawn’s friends – Jason Cherniak – has decided to shut down his blog today. I wonder if the LIEberals finally got hold of him and told him he is not helping the LIEberal Party. He acts like a LIEberal, with his censoring of all input on comments, yet like a LIEberal, he is accepting his censored “Praises” very well indeed. This is terrible news, how will I be able to get that job carrying his suitcase when he is appointed Senator? (I do not think he will give up the blog though, it gives him a sense of input into the leadership of the LIEberal Party.)

As for the things the Conservatives want to implement, it would take a Separatist, NDP and LIEberal person to see that it would be good for Canada and vote against the Throne Speech.

I guess DeYawn will parachute his friends and quota of women into ridings without the input of grass roots like he did in Quebec. I hope the same thing happens with the LIEberals as with the “Old” Conservative Party – two seats. They have lost the support of the average intelligent voter – that is why there are about 30% who still hope they will get back into power – who will vote for the RAG [RED (LIEberal) And GREEN] Party; the NDP or Conservatives. I heard that the LIEberals who moved to Alberta to work are finally seeing what the LIEberals were like. Their eyes and ears are open to a different opinion, rather than the center of the universe, and hopefully convince their “friends” not to vote LIEberal in the next election. Lets have an election as soon as possible.

Posted by: Clown Party of Canada at October 17, 2007 1:10 AM

The Libranophile MSM has not yet turned on him.

We'll know he is duck soup when CTV and the Red Star finally plunge the political knife into his back.

Posted by: Shaken at October 17, 2007 1:13 AM

I have never enjoyed watching a throne speech so much!!

The best part was listening to the GG gagging on her words while her left wing nut 'mari' clawed at the furniture. Meanwhile the Prime Minister sat solid and dignified and did not once recognize the obvious vulgar distaste for her job that GG was not classy enough to disguise.

The Prime Minister smiled politely and thanked her after her little 'performance'. To borrow the title of an old book about a different man from a different time: "Now Brother, There's a Man!"

Posted by: Jema54 at October 17, 2007 1:32 AM

Trouble is, Dion seems like a decent man.

That should have automatically disqualified him from leadership of the Liberals.

Posted by: set you free at October 17, 2007 1:33 AM

I posted this on the tips thread earlier, but it seems appropriate here.

On CKNW in Vancouver this AM, Bill Good's show, he had a phone-in poll: If an election today, who would you vote for, and why?

Cons - 29
Libs - 3
NDP - 2
Green - 2 (one said cons are second choice)
Canada Action Party - 1 (was very worried about the impending North American Union)
Abstain - 1

Posted by: randall g at October 17, 2007 1:41 AM

Personally I think it would be a lot more fun if the Conservatives achieve all their Throne speech goals with a minority...But that's just me!!!

Posted by: Paul at October 17, 2007 1:41 AM

Can anybody get a shot of the 'iggy' interview where he has that unbelievable 'sh*t eating' grin on his face as if he'd just won the lottery. Maybe he's just let the 'puffin' out of the bag. Perhaps we will see an election before Christmas and a new Liberal leadership race for next Easter, how appropriate would that be!

Posted by: Antenor at October 17, 2007 2:20 AM

"Harper should have bought out her term as soon as he took office and arranged an appointment to that office for someone who had the gravitas and the credentials to occupy it."

Don Cherry, baby!

(Chant with me now...)

Grapes! Grapes!
We want Grapes!

Posted by: Sean at October 17, 2007 3:03 AM

So, if they get rid of the long gun registry, they will also destroy the database containing that information, correct?

/crickets

Posted by: EventHorizon at October 17, 2007 6:58 AM

'Just read the National Post: even it let Dion off the hook re his non appearance last night. The paper just pointed out that he has some tough decisions to make. (Not a mention either of the GG's non-regal slouch and haughty demeanor.)

A Conservative majority can't happen soon enough!

Posted by: lookout at October 17, 2007 8:45 AM

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=89bc24f1-9011-4109-9faf-aadb9d88af79

Dion's choice: Save the planet, or save his political ass

Posted by: ol hoss at October 17, 2007 8:57 AM

Re the GG's performance (or lack thereof), for a TV journalist, she sure delivered a lacklustre reading of the Throne Speech. I'm sure an A-Channel TV newsreader could have done as well or better. She & her husband are an insult to the position. They could at least try to look dignified, ie, sit up straight, don't slouch - you know, the things your mom told you. And Mark, I don't care if she looks/dresses sexy - this isn't a Canadian version of Real Housewives of Orange County. She's representing the Crown in Canada.

Posted by: Skeptic at October 17, 2007 9:03 AM

Another throne speech... another law and order/justice bill on the docket...still no repeal of the duck gun registry or the federal criminalization of duck hunters....Meanwhile In morOntario McSleazy's evil flying monkey Bryant is make noises about locking up target shooters and stealing their pistols to cure a Jamacian drug gangster culture.

Is this CPC member written policy directive to REPEAL the gun registry forgotten or is Harper's recent loss of fear of mewling opposition hoplophobic zealots still not total.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at October 17, 2007 9:08 AM

Even better than watching Dion squirm is watching Elizabeth May's about face. Harper just announced the death of Kyoto and Elizabeth May says there is no reason to go for an election over this. Huh!?!?!

No wonder the Liberals are trying to kill Dion. Seems like he's the leader of two parties right now.

Posted by: john g at October 17, 2007 9:11 AM

Sorry, Sean, as much as I like Grapes for who he is, he's not the right person for GG office either. Still, he'd be better than what's there now, and he'd relate better to the average Canuck.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at October 17, 2007 12:22 PM

Skeptic: you didn't like Jean's "reading performance"? Here's what I wrote on my site:

First of all, I have to admit I didn't watch it. I started to, but then I couldn't handle Michaëlle Jean's raping of the English language. You'd think that for all the money she receives from taxpayers, she would have taken the time to practise reading the speech in front of a mirror at least once. Instead, it looked like an embarrassing Raise A Reader moment.

Posted by: Werner Patels at October 17, 2007 12:43 PM

Note to Stephane, "It isn't going to get any better."

Posted by: northbaytrapper at October 17, 2007 1:43 PM

Listened to the CBC this morning. They were wondering who the little people in the front were. Someone explained it was the justices of the Supreme Court.

They actually gave credit for presenting the speech live so actual citzens could hear it BEFORE the talking heads put the spin to it. It seems to really upset the press they don't get that 8 second sound bite.

Posted by: Speedy at October 17, 2007 2:51 PM

Liberals to bite the bullet on throne speech

Toronto Star Confirms National Newswatch Report: National Newswatch has learned that the buzz circulating among Liberal insiders this hour on Parliament Hill indicates the Liberal Party will not defeat the government on the throne speech. ...-


Outreacher MEmemememMeMe is a warmonger; wants War:


MP Garth Turner calls for WAR
Regular readers will be unsurprised to hear I argued in caucus Tuesday for war. You know why....-

Posted by: maz2 at October 17, 2007 2:57 PM

Warning! Since any reference to a noose is now a "hate" crime in the US now, I'm sure the picture of Dion trying to "scarf" himself might bring down the PC police.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 17, 2007 5:39 PM

Quebec legislature bans word 'weathervane'

Speaker says its hurtful and a slur after Charest called Dumont a weathervane one too many times ...-
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/267582

Citoyen Dion, aka AdScam Dion, is a Librano$ weathervane.

Posted by: maz2 at October 17, 2007 6:12 PM
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