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October 14, 2007

You Can Vote For Any Party...

as long as it's the NDP.

Tom Graham, General Vice President of the National Executive Board of CUPE stated on John Gormley Live that they don't pressure their members on which way they should cast their ballots.

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If I see a Liberal or Saskatchewan Party sign on the same Union Centre lawn in Moose Jaw, I'll apologize.

Posted by The Greek at October 14, 2007 5:44 PM
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"If I see a Liberal or Saskatchewan Party sign on the CUPE lawn in Moose Jaw, I'll apologize."

And if I see one I'll eat my shorts.


Posted by: Pierce at October 14, 2007 5:53 PM

Some union guys (construction, not union) told me this weekend that while the NDP has the union brass, the core of the membership is no longer trusted to vote NDP.
Also, several SK CUPE leaders are off to Toronto next week for the CUPE convention.
Aren't gov employees, by law, supposed to be neutral?

Posted by: Bushman at October 14, 2007 5:59 PM

sorry, construction, not CUPE

Posted by: Bushman at October 14, 2007 6:00 PM

what is the law for taking down signs on private property.
I had a sign put on my fence with no permission
will I kick it down, or force them to move it.
If it was NDP can I sue for defamation of Character

Posted by: Gerrid at October 14, 2007 7:07 PM

Lot's of union members, especially those in the construction industry and mining, are no fans of the NDP.

Posted by: Stan at October 14, 2007 7:12 PM

I'd put a sign beside it saying:

"This NDP sign is violating personal property. Just like Murdoch Carriere."


Posted by: Kate at October 14, 2007 7:14 PM

Wow, a lawn sign on a lawn during an election campaign.
What a huge deal...

Posted by: Knight of Good Mr. Iron Man at October 14, 2007 7:38 PM

I truly hope the people of Sask. are smarter that the sheeple of Ont. when it comes to voting.

Posted by: Rob C at October 14, 2007 7:40 PM

CUPE . . . a government granted monopoly, a union with high dues and no organizing costs . . of course they are going to bend over backwards to support the political party that depends on them for money and manpower.

Posted by: Fred at October 14, 2007 8:10 PM

Greek, you should apologize to the internets for wasting bandwidth on such an utterly lame post.

Posted by: manny at October 14, 2007 8:46 PM

The NDP will share some of the wealth with unions. Who are the SaskaTories aligned with? There are over 500,000 people who hold jobs in Sask. There are 44,000 farmers. So who do I vote for? The Sask party make no bones about it they are not for working families. union or non-union.

Posted by: ok4ua at October 14, 2007 9:13 PM

ok4ua, do you know what industry is the number one employer in the province?

Here's a hint - it begins with "agriculture".

Posted by: Kate at October 14, 2007 9:28 PM

"Tom Graham, General Vice President of the National Executive Board of CUPE stated on John Gormley Live that they don't pressure their members on which way they should cast their ballots."

Mr. Graham is full of nonsense if he thinks that is the truth. Unless I'm confusing him with someone else, it was he at a CUPE meeting that told me and a group that I was with that we had to vote NDP if we wanted any hope of dealing with the government. No consideration at all for either the Liberals, or Sask Party.

I don't understand the blindness of CUPE executive who think that way. Under the NDP there are all kinds of problems for unions, yet they don't use their voting power to put the slightest pressure on the NDP. If there's no risk that someone will put their vote elsewhere, there's no incentive for politicians to act.

Actually I do know why, it's probably because the majority of CUPE execs are bigwigs in the NDP exec too.

Posted by: Saskboy1 at October 14, 2007 9:31 PM

I say Unions lose their tax exempt status.

Any other "charity" like churches started promoting the Sask Party, the first the socialists would be calling for is the removal of their charitable status.

Posted by: notasocialist at October 14, 2007 10:20 PM

Not everyone will follow the union.

Posted by: pissinginthetent.com at October 14, 2007 10:54 PM

ok4ua, don't worry, it will all be over soon. we will then see the sask party rise to the top and do what is right for all working people of this province.

PS. you may feel after the election that the province is leaving you behind with your old way of thinking, WE DON'T CARE FU

Posted by: dj at October 14, 2007 11:30 PM

Saskboy, it sounds like he was giving you an informed opinion. In what way is that pressure to vote one way or another?

Churches SHOULD lose their charitable status, as unions should lose their tax status, as a whole host of special interests should lose their preferential status. But first and foremost farmers should lose their freeloader status.

Posted by: manny at October 15, 2007 12:42 AM

Manny -

Farmers would be happy to drop what you call their "freeloader" status the minute you start paying an extra 33 to 50% for your food in order to let them make a living without having an off-farm full time job. Until that happens, I suggest you quit complaining about the 1% of governmental programs that ensures that you have food on your plate.

Posted by: Andrew at October 15, 2007 1:22 AM

Manny, you sound like a troll by the name of Maryjane that was on SDA about a year ago.

Posted by: Saskboy at October 15, 2007 1:32 AM

Manny:

Sure...take away church tax exempt status and see just what happens to your tax bill.

Every dollar a gov't takes in to use to support programs for the needy costs us about $13 before it even gets there.

Close to 98% of every dollar churches use to support programs for the needy goes directly there.

Of course the Salvation army is also a religious organization........guess we can kiss all those Christmas hampers and disaster funds good bye too.........right?

The only thing a union does with its money if pay a bunch of freeloader union fatcats with the sweat of another guys back. Then turn and give the money to the NDP. If people think unions are there soley for the benefit of the workers, then they had better think again. They are nothing more than a political tool for socialists. Another way to funnel money into a polical party. The difference being......it always tax exempt money, and that is where the problem is.

As far as farmers go.....check out there tax bill on education...........they are probably subsidizing alot of the complainers education bills.......

Posted by: notasocialist at October 15, 2007 2:03 AM

Keven Yates says NPD will lose in Saskatoon Sutherland! WOW!
What's going on inside their cacus!!!

Posted by: djcanuck at October 15, 2007 2:44 AM

Farmers would be happy to drop what you call their "freeloader" status the minute you start paying an extra 33 to 50% for your food in order to let them make a living without having an off-farm full time job
The presupposes that current farmers have some sort of right to be my food provider; I do not believe that to be the case. I really don't give a tinker's damn whether whether Canadian farmers can make a living, with or without an off-farm job. If they cannot, then it suggests that consumers are buying from other farmers, who obviously can make a living (one way or another), since otherwise they would exit the industry, no?

Posted by: DCardno at October 15, 2007 12:43 PM

In the near term the very best thing that could happen to Saskatchewan is to see the NDP obliterated!
It's not going to happen .... but that's sill a noble objective.

Possibly after a couple of years of Intelligent (non-Socialist) governance the leftards will be put in their place once and for all.

Posted by: OMMAG at October 15, 2007 1:50 PM

The vast majority of Canadian Unions are nothing more than organized criminal appendages to the NDP. Internal democracy is a joke, membership is compulsory, laws are tilted to prevent competition, and compulsory funding for the NDP is beyond question. Most enjoy a long term strategic behavioral direction which will ensure the ultimate demise of their employer and member's jobs except for the public sector unions which are a full order of criminality worse.

Public sector unions have taken a work force generally immune from short term market cycles in terms of job security and monopolized the looting and redistribution of taxpayer money to the NPD. These folks, if "union members in good standing" are in conflict of interest when they vote. The private sector workers are market bound while the public sector simply votes "correctly". Monopoly power over most essential services and the "right to strike" is just more icing on their criminal cake ensuring that even non-NDP governments are too intimidated to attempt any reform.

Posted by: John Chittick at October 15, 2007 1:53 PM

Agriculture is 8% of our GNP. Don't BS us. Mining is bigger,workers paying taxes is bigger,oil is bigger. Manufacturing is bigger,housing is bigger. Go check your facts out.

Posted by: ok4ua at October 15, 2007 7:29 PM

DCardno, wouldn't it be great if Canada didn't have a national food supply and we outsourced it to China where they know how to poison wheat properly?

Posted by: Saskboy at October 15, 2007 11:31 PM

"DCardno, wouldn't it be great if Canada didn't have a national food supply and we outsourced it to China where they know how to poison wheat properly?"

GOOD POINT !!!

Posted by: Notasocialist at October 16, 2007 12:50 AM

Sure, the signs may be annoying, but did anyone really expect anything different?

Posted by: tower at October 16, 2007 3:10 PM

Saskboy - so, inspection doesn't work any longer? If Saskatchewan farmers can't produce products at a competitve price, then the invisible hand is telling them to get out of farming. If it works for loggers and fishermen in BC, textile manufacturers in Quebec, automobile ploants in Nova Scotia, or cucumber greenhouses in Newfoundland, why can't it work for farmers in Saskatchewan? I'm all for doing away with the Wheat Board and marketing boards - but stop behaving like you have some divine right to your occupation.

As for having a national food supply - we seem to do alright without (among others) a national semiconductor supply, a national TV supply, a national Bourbon supply, a national (decent-quality) wine supply, or a national running-shoe supply. As a nation, we make our living by producing things we are good at, selling them to foreigners, and using the money they pay for minerals, timber, machine tools, automobiles, and so on to buy stuff we are not good at making. When we cannot produce agricultural goods without off-farm jobs to supplement the income from the agricultural operation, it is a signal that we are either making something we are not naturally good at, or that the producers are incompetent. Take your pick, but either way it does not deserve a government subsidy. It represents a diversion of labour and capital into a less-lucrative and less-productive use, and results in a diminishment of national (and global) wealth.

Posted by: DCardno at October 16, 2007 4:17 PM

Lefties!!

How much education tax do the farmers pay vs. those in towns in cities? Who has divided this province...
uuuummmmm THE NDP!

Posted by: djcanuck at October 17, 2007 2:29 AM

test

Posted by: lberia at October 17, 2007 8:50 PM

How much taxes does an acre of city property with houses on it pay? A hell of lot more than farmers pay. In say Walsh Acres or Albert Park. The Sask Party devided us. It started with Devine. Go BS someone else.

Posted by: ok4ua at October 18, 2007 12:21 AM
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