Language warning, as is standard when a liberal feminist makes a startling discovery, a profanity-laced rant against the state of the world results:
Are you F------ kidding me? With relatively little training, men in my weight class can lift ONE HUNDRED POUNDS MORE THAN ME? Just a few months in, y'all can lift 274 lbs to a woman's 174? 57% more? A HUNDRED POUNDS? Are you f------- kidding? That much more? I had no idea. You guys are that much stronger? Serious? I got genuinely angry. I still am. I didn't know, and it is so UNFAIR.Posted by Jaeger at October 4, 2007 6:56 PM
Actually Jaeger, I think she's expressing a (mock) grudging humility, and tongue-in-cheek mock-anger.
Posted by: EBD at October 4, 2007 7:12 PMI think so, too, EBD. It seems quite good-natured to me.
Posted by: Silicon Valley Jim at October 4, 2007 7:13 PMI had a girlfriend, marathon runner, in shape, who thought she because she was in shape and I'm, well, not :-) that she was stronger than me. I tried gently to dissuade her with words. She demanded physical proof. She got it. She was pissed!
Posted by: The Rat at October 4, 2007 7:16 PM"and it is so unfair"
Sounds like Stephanie D-Yawn.
Posted by: Bruce Randall at October 4, 2007 7:23 PMShe isn't tongue in cheek, she is actually surprised at this realization. Trust me, I had an old girlfriend that was just as clueless. She may have tossed some humour in there, but she is genuinely distressed by this "revelation"
Posted by: Eric at October 4, 2007 7:25 PMI was both. I was actually surprised and temporarily angry, and also tongue-in-cheek, because my usual readers and I are friends enough that I can joke with them.
Posted by: Megan at October 4, 2007 7:30 PMConsider that most Liberal women weigh more than their boyfriends to begin with. That is their real problem.
Posted by: John West at October 4, 2007 7:37 PMYou think that's bad, Just wait until she finds out that the evidence strongly shows that capitalism has done more for poor people than any other system.
(if she's not a modern liberal she'd already now this though, and then my apologies.)
Posted by: langmann at October 4, 2007 7:41 PMI had a girlfriend whose teenage daughter was in the militia for the summer; a fairly big girl, fit, and about same size and height as me (i'm not a big guy, but i work out a lot). Embarassingly, she insisted on arm wrestling and was genuinely shocked when a "little guy" beat her easily.
Of course, it's a no-win situation - either you take their crap or you embarass yourself by winning.
Quite consistent female reaction if you ask me. The majority of women I have met, no matter how flawlessly attractive, dislike their bodies in some way. This girl is not tongue in cheek. I figure she has simply found "one more thing" she dislikes about herself.
Like "most" women, she also blames an outside someone/something for making her feel pissed. (read the longer post)
Hard to feel sorry for such a pissy little brat.
Wonder if any flaming arrows will come my way.
Posted by: geothermal at October 4, 2007 7:47 PMTongue in cheek my left asscheek; this is typical of the young modern Canadian woman and I too have a corroborating story:
This past winter I'm eating breakfast one morning after a heavy snowfall when I hear my neighbour's wheels spinning in his driveway. I put on my jacket and boots and do what Vimy Ridge Canadians do.
I get there and it's my neighbour behind the wheel and his girlfriend standing there (tight driveway, his car). "But I already tried that!" she says as I go to push him out. Actually I "bounce" him out, using leverage, as I learned from my male elders. Strength may not have been an issue.
Anyway, she offers a "You're so strong!", as if she's embarrassed that a guy is stronger than her. I wave to buddy, he waves to me, I go back to breakfast.
It's true; the average young Canadian woman is so brainwashed to believe boys = girls that even though they are bombarded with evidence daily of male physical superiority their cognitive dissonance won't allow them to believe that men are stronger than women.
Posted by: Andrew at October 4, 2007 7:57 PM*
hey lady... you're worried about what... self defense?
how many ounces is a colt airweight... er...
uh... how about you maybe get a dog?
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Posted by: neo at October 4, 2007 7:59 PMJust watch. Next she'll be clamoring for the requirements for women to be less than men for some jobs i.e. firefighters. If your a woman you only have to carry little kids and anoxeic females out of burning buildings.
Horny Toad
Posted by: Horny Toad at October 4, 2007 8:07 PMWhat a pity she took all those courses which proved that masculine strength was just a social construct.
Ah well, mere muscles don't matter all that much.
"Ah well, mere muscles don't matter all that much"
Not that true! A combination of muscle and smarts is more of a helpful tool in life than say, skinny or fat combined with smarts.
The military comes to mind.
Sounds like she was having a bit of fun with it to me, but surprised as well. I wouln't paint her as a rabid, genuinely upset and jealous uber-feminist like some would.
Posted by: Griff at October 4, 2007 8:31 PMNot to worry. All she needs to do is take a course of special vitamin injections.
Posted by: Mystery Meat at October 4, 2007 8:36 PMI can think of a lot of words to describe radical feminists, but not one of them is .... classy.
I mean, having a foul mouth is like so rebellious, outrageous and a badge of honour.
Posted by: set you free at October 4, 2007 8:58 PMNotice the "That is so unfair." Resembles Dion's "That is not fair" whining routine.
Posted by: Ryan at October 4, 2007 9:00 PMfeminist discovers that she is not /will never be
equal in sum way as a MAN
there is a god I say!!!!!!!!!!!
Liberal women are like cats ... they like to very independent and come and go as they please, but they expect you to do everything for them.
Posted by: John West at October 4, 2007 10:10 PMI see that Jay's reading comprehension skills haven't improved. This thread in not Kate's but courtesy of Jaeger. While you may go looking for love in a sock or apple pie, previous polls of Kate's contributors show a high number of professionals and small business people. And besides some of the trolls, they tend to be boomer with grown kids and not living in mommy's basement.
Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 4, 2007 10:22 PMJust a few of the things where being stronger does come in handy:
Soldier, fireman, policeman, lineman, construction, landscaping, home reno's, bar fights, self-defense, etc, etc, etc. And contrary to what little leftoid girlie-men say, a great sense of security and self-esteem comes with being the toughest guy in the room. GO ARMY!
Posted by: kingstonlad at October 4, 2007 10:42 PMPerhaps our liberal Feminist should be told that men have a certain organ that the women don't have. Would she be envious?
Posted by: Hannibal at October 4, 2007 11:38 PMI thought she was funny. Don't know if that was her intention.
Of course I thought Hannibal's comment was funny also. What can I say?
Posted by: Paul at October 5, 2007 12:03 AMI don't know why feminists insist on competing physically against men, it's about the only place they are at a natural disadvantage, and no one with a brain thinks any less of them.
I carried a faller's saw, Husky 2100 with 30 inch bar, when I worked in the bush many years back. My wife couldn't even lift it.
She works as a nurse, and her descriptions of the things she has to do, and endure at work have me heaving up my lunch. I couldn't do her job in a million years.
Who's stronger, who's tougher? Don't ask.
I cringe when the sports media demands women have a chance to compete against men, like Hayley Wickenheiser playing pro hockey in Finland.
I don't know what the Finnish league told their players, but in a typical Canadian junior "B" league, Wickenheiser, whom I respect as a great WOMAN's League hockey player,wouldn't last five games.
Anyone want to match Laila Ali against Lennox Lewis? Even though he's retired, he'd still kill her. Remember Bobby Riggs vs Billie Jean King?
Men and women, well, the French say "vive le difference", and that about sums it up.
And if my house ever catches fire, please send some big strong, male firefighter to carry my 230 pound carcass out of the flames.
Posted by: dmorris at October 5, 2007 12:18 AMPerhaps our liberal Feminist should be told that men have a certain organ that the women don't have. Would she be envious?
Nope...They would just run off to the local sex shop and by something bigger and have enough vibrating power to jack hammer a large hole into your drive way and ask "who's envious now"
No doubt about it that men are stronger than women. Also I think women have the ability to concentrate on more than one or multiple things at the same time where men seem to be able to focus on one thinght. I also think that men can be bigger babbies when were sick.
If you tell women today that the standards have been lowered in some proffesions so as to include women,thier hair stands on the back of thier neck and really pisses them off. You have very few women in combat arms trades in the forces today. I can definatly garantee you that very few women if hardly any could have handled the physical standards that were imposed 25 to 30 years ago. I remember the training I did as a young paratropper really kicked the shit out of me and several other young guys as well.
Sorry dear,those gals kicking the snot out of several big guys at once on the liberal hollywood movie screen just aint true.
We get the wide deoderant stick for a reason so stop your whinning gals.
Posted by: Shawn at October 5, 2007 1:25 AMsince physiologically a man will be 50% muscle and a woman would be 25% at the same weight, why would anyone but a dumb feminist be surprised? did she think she gets her strength from the hair on her legs or her armpits?
sexual dimorphism - almost universal amoungst all species for very specific but varied reasons. in humans it would be childbearing vrs hunting/protection/warring.
Oh she's definitely genuinely irked. She certainly didn't like my post about math and spatial relations...
Like a dog returning to vomit, I just couldn't resist taking another stab at it:
"HAHAHAHAHA. With all the misogynist and misandrist statments on here, with all the profanity and other assorted cursing, you choose the word 'liberal' to cease on and delete my comments - devoid of cursing and bigotry?
Sucks when those who are supposed to support free speech and oppose censorship don't.
Hilarious. But hey, it's your site. Enjoy blogging to your two friends and parents.
Ciao!"
Posted by: Gen. Lee Wright at October 5, 2007 3:52 AMMy wife grew up in a farm supply business- spent her childhood unloading semis.
She's somewhat stronger than the average-sized man.
I grew up doing construction work- and despite being smaller than she, I'm still the stronger. Go figger...
Posted by: backhoe at October 5, 2007 4:46 AMIt's hard to tell if her rant is tongue-in-cheek when it comes from a potty mouth, chock full. Her injunction to reply with only feel-good comments despite her self-acknowledged rant suggests it was not tongue-in-cheek. What makes it seem tongue-in-cheek is that the supposed revelation is so patently stupid that she must be tongue-in-cheek. Is this s subtle barb at feminist "science" or is it truly stupid?
Posted by: murray at October 5, 2007 6:10 AM"It's hard to tell if her rant is tongue-in-cheek when it comes from a potty mouth, chock full."
There's never any shortage of baby boomers ready to make excuses for the mess they created. Thanks guys! I have to work with these broads for the next 20 years. Thanks a bunch!
Posted by: Andrew at October 5, 2007 7:04 AMMen and women have strengths and weaknesses; men are better at some things than women and vice versa. We would do well to celebrate them and learn to promote, accept and leverage the strengths of the respective sexes, rather than b!tch and complain about equal outcomes in all respects.
Posted by: mark peters at October 5, 2007 8:52 AMThere is a generation of females who have been deluded by the feminist men haters into believing 'equality' means 'no difference'. Reality bites, eh?
By contrast, when we accept the differences there can be mutual respect instead of faux 'equalness'.
Why is it acceptable to postulate differences in physical strength between men and women but not in other areas? Wasn't the Harvard Preident recently censured for exactly that? And this from a society that claims to be centred in science?
Posted by: Richard Ball at October 5, 2007 9:18 AMFrom a male perspective, I should think the gift of multiple orgasms would far surpass the downside of lesser upper body strength for women.
Posted by: Joe Molnar at October 5, 2007 9:33 AM"It's so unfair"
Pity. Shame. Tears. Boo-ha-ha-hoo!
Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at October 5, 2007 9:40 AMWell, one thing is for sure. Successive moonbat regimes have been jamming employment equity (one way, of course) down our throats for so long, that it is no surprise that some females think they are physically equal to men. I saw it in the army(clusterf#$%), I saw it in the utility industry(clusterf#$%), prison guards live with it every day, not to mention firefighters, police, etc. It is not sexist to say that men are stronger than women, period, end of story!
Posted by: kingstonlad at October 5, 2007 9:45 AMI for one, like the differences between men and women, young and old too for that matter. Makes life much more enjoyable. no matter how you slice it, while I may be able to carry a beer barrel (or belly) further than my wife, I can never carry a baby (for 9 months). viva la difference!
Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 5, 2007 9:48 AMI'd love to know where the myth of all females being able to achieve multiple orgasms came from. In poll after poll over the years, most recently in the Nat Post, close to half of all women report never having achieved one in their lifetime, even by their own hand.
Male orgasms are essential to the procreative process while female orgasms aren't. It's why nature made male genitals for ease in doing so, while she has to work at finding her G spot and explaining it to us.
Thank God that there is far far more to life, but if frequency and intensity of orgasms is a basis of competition, we win that one too, Joe.
"Liberal feminist makes startling discovery"
Did they discover that a woman's upright posture is naturally physically conducive to pushing a shopping cart, ironing, and doing dishes?
..or maybe they discovered their wombs are naturally suited to child birth?
Funny, even Mooselim women know this ;-)
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at October 5, 2007 12:25 PMTwo responses:
1. That is the reason why real men are not supposed to pick on women, and instead are supposed to defend them against the actions of girly men and child-men. It is why my sons knew I would smack them if they did not help out a woman in distreas and still believe I will, even though they are now bigger and stronger than I am. (Fortunately, they will never be as sneaky or mean as I can.)
2. That is also why, due to the shortage of real men and an environment where there are far too many child-men, a woman should make close aquaintance with Mr. Glock, Mr. Smith & Wesson, or Mr. Baretta. All men and women are created equal. Samuel Colt made them that way.
Posted by: Mark L at October 5, 2007 2:27 PM"Male orgasms are essential to the procreative process while female orgasms aren't."
Bob C, I'm not sure if that's entirely accurate. Orgasm=pleasure=relaxation=greater chance of fertilization as opposed to wham-bam thank-you mam hit the showers=less chance of fertilization. There is usually a purpose in all of nature;)
Posted by: anon at October 5, 2007 2:29 PMLOL
I hope it was a joke. If not, I hope she is blonde.
Posted by: Manny, in Moncton at October 5, 2007 2:56 PM"Male orgasms are essential to the procreative process while female orgasms aren't."
If momma ain't happy, then nobody's happy.
neo: I think you'll find it's Smith and Wesson who make the Airweights.
(Or Taurus, for those of us who are on budgets.)
Anon: Note he said "essential", not "helpful".
I have no need whatsoever to pretend to read Megan's mind, and will happily take her word that she was both really surprised and being tongue in cheek (especially the latter).
But it sure does seem odd to have never noticed that men really are (taking the averages of both sexes, and the records of world-class weightlifters) a lot stronger than women.
Posted by: Sigivald at October 5, 2007 5:06 PMSigivald I stand corrected!
Posted by: anon at October 5, 2007 6:32 PMHey Warwick, watch out with the Startrek shots ;-) Some of us old farts remember when Bill Shatner first trimmed his sideburns.
BTW, that joe character is actually that troll that Kate has kicked off several times before under other names/aliases. He is that all knowing computer whiz with a hate for his local police department. It must be time to renew his prescription again I guess.
Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 5, 2007 6:56 PMI'm sure that the liberal feminist could cut down the strength deficit considerably with a bit of testosterone or decadurabilon. There are a few minor side effects, but shaving doesn't take much time.
This reminds me of a time when I was a lot younger and a friend of mine who was a kickboxing instructor decided to have a self defence class for women. A few of us were to serve as human punching bags to get women used to defending themselves. There was no way I'd take this role if I was being attacked by a male, but the women did their best flailing away at us and we'd keep telling them to punch harder which they couldn't. One of the women had some martial arts experience and wanted to spar with me which I reluctantly agreed to and she was able to land some kicks and punches that would have caused damage if I was sparring with a guy, but they didn't feel like much of anything. When she accused me of holding back, I ended the fight by kicking her in the solar plexus. Now if women ask me about self defence I suggest they get a gun.
Nemo2,no shit and well said.The only rule of love is that your happiness is dependant on her happiness. Vice versa,if only we could all wrap our head around that. And joeconstanants,have you decided to leave us and check your spelling?
Posted by: wallyj at October 6, 2007 1:36 AMThis rant would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
Poor little entitled feminist.
My main concern is the safety of male police officers and firefighters, who are put on the beat or in a fire truck off to a three-alarm blaze, with their much less physically able female counterparts.
So, the makeup of males is that they're physically 60% stronger than females? So what? That would explain why they go hunting while women go gathering, and why it's typically males that go to war and women who keep the home fires burning. (Hey, we have breasts with which to feed our young, but that's another story.)
Male strength makes me, a female, feel protected by the males around me, not pi**ed off. I'm grateful, not envious.
But then, I'm not a poor little entitled feminist.
Posted by: 'been around the block at October 6, 2007 8:46 AM"Male orgasms are essential to the procreative process while female orgasms aren't."
Actually not exactly true. When a woman has an orgasm is helps propel those male sperm on their merry way on their journey to seek out the egg; as for the female sperm, they don't need any help - they're already great swimmers.
Posted by: Joanne at October 6, 2007 12:46 PMI think women who are quite tall and/or heavy might feel they should be as strong as men of similar height and weight, but the fact is the strength of a being is in the design and the amount of the muscle. Take a gorilla for instance, you wouldn't want to mess with one - they are powerful animals - all in the design.
The strongest muscle in the human body proportional to size is the uterus, so there you have it - women rule! Mind you, I'm sure men could make a similar claim if they had a mind to - pun intended.
Posted by: Joanne at October 6, 2007 1:03 PMSpeaking of male strength: A few years ago I was driving to a picnic on an army base, and managed to get one set of the minivan's wheels in a ditch. A group of soldiers was jogging past, noticed my dilemma, and offered to help. I started to get out of the car to get my kids out, but they said, "Stay where you are, ma'am." About 6 (or was it 8?) of them LIFTED the minivan out of the ditch, with us in it.
It was as close to swooning as I've ever come ...
Thanks for sharing the tip. Because of an left-arm fracture two years ago (spiral below the elbow, with crushed wrist at no extra accident), I have to use a 15-lb dumbbell for bicep curves, palm up, in order to get my left bicep comparable with my right.
Daniel, I can empathize. About 4 years ago I shattered my arm in a mountain bike accident; 14 fractures, one compound. It took me about two years to get back to 95% and after three years 99% of the pain is gone but my arm is still not quite as big as the other. I use a curling bar and now put 5 extra pounds on the injured side. The first three months after the accident I would have killed myself if I had the strength, it was a nightmare.
Posted by: Apollyon at October 7, 2007 9:10 PM