How could it be harder. It's already almost impossible.

Yuo do realize that the website was made by a francophone, yes? And that en francais,'inquisition' means 'enquiry', not what it means in English.

There's a bar in Ste. Foy, "Bogarts." Very deep party place. I reccomend after the demonstration everyone gather there.

Yes, but how many other people get that? Certainly not the Anarchist Women's Group whose ears pricked up at the name, and certainly not the average Anglo.

We have to speak to people where they are, not where we are. And if you have an English/French site, and therefore presumably want English visitors, you have to take that extra five seconds to ask yourself: how will this site's translated name look to most people? Not: "who cares, if they don't get it they're stupid."

And the web page is designed by Torquemada no doubt.

Thumbscrews and rack anybody?

Almost as good as the misguided muslims running around with the "God Bless Hitler" sign in "IslamaBAD" (tm) last year.

Could be a black sheep there, ya think?

Baaaahhd.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden (Rheinisches) Nr.7
(Saarbrucken)

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

"Inquisition" is another way of saying "inquiry" in English too. But it's become associated with thumbscrews and fanatic priests burning Jews at the stake, so we don't use it anymore. People in Quebec, surrounded by English-speakers, have no excuse for being ignorant of that fact.

sooooo... they get no points for acting on their convictions?

I'm missing something....is openly defending your religious convictions morally inferior to maintaining a false public image of church dogma?

These people believe killing is wrong and their church says abortion is a sin...they are simply making that statement rather than projecting some fuzzy tele-tubby image of the church.

Where is it written that Christians are not to be "controversial" and not act on their beliefs?

I don't say you have to agree with them but you can't honestly denounce them as the type of moral cowards in corporate "pop" Churches who adopt new sanitized politically correct dogmas to appear less "frightening" to spiritually deprived secular culture.

WLMR:

Okay, they get two celestial gold stars for acting on their convictions.

For having people trip completely over their message, they have become a 'stumbling block'.

But then JC was a 'stumbling block', so one might give them an extra point for being spiritually 'cheeky'. Slap me one more time, while I turn that other cheek.

Cheers

"inquisition.ca" reminds me of why I am a Protestant. The St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre will never be forgotten nor forgiven, certainly not on Earth, probably not in Heaven.

If you go to the site, you'll notice that when he says "inquisition" he does in fact mean "Inquisition". To be fair, he distinguishes between "good" and "bad" Inquisitions, the latter being the sort that torture and burn people.

But you have to wonder about motives, or at least his PR sense.

Based on the people I know from Quebec, anything remotely connected to the Catholic church and its' history is mercilessly lampooned. The overreaction by leftist anti-family bra burners to the use of a word with obvious historical connotations appears to be one of their golden priveleges. Of course we can't expect them to respond well to being called modern day baby mass murderers (which I believe them to be).

The inquisition was known for the indiscriminate killing of many defenseless people with proof manufactured to fit the desired result. If one thinks about who the real inquisitors are, the pro-abortion "freedom of choice at all costs" bra burners fit that description quite nicely.

I checked out www.rvme.org. Only the French link works.

This is outrageous. Completely unacceptable. I feel completely humiliated. I say let's separate. Removing Quebec would leave more money for federal transfer payments to Saskatchewan and PEI.

Well said WLM Redux,"Where is it written that Christians are not to be "controversial" and not act on their beliefs?"

I would rather listen to a Christian who actually had convivctions than some watered down, lets hold hands and dance around rainbow 'Christianity'.

Well said WLM Redux,"Where is it written that Christians are not to be "controversial" and not act on their beliefs?"

I would rather listen to a Christian who actually had convivctions than some watered down, lets hold hands and dance around rainbow 'Christianity'.

oh yeah and a Christian who can spell right and not post twice:)

The point of the website is to expose Catholic clergy who promote heresy or are too wimpy to stand up for the faith.

If your goal is to win the unchurched to Christ (rather than just displaying your smug self-righteousness for all the world to see) PLEASE do not name your website inquisition.ca

How's it working for the Church? Being soft and girlie appeals to some, but has it won adherents?

It's not working.

Standing up for the Catholic Faith in the Catholic Church should not be so controversial. There should be some kind of inquisition-- not the kind with auto-da-fes and torture, but with the clergy made accountable for their opposition to the Catholic Faith. Just this morning, Raymond Gravel-- former priest-- was quoted as saying that he defends abortion. Why does nothing happen to these people?

I've lived in Quebec. They don't harden their hearts because of this. They harden their hearts because the clergy don't preach the faith in the first place, and those hearts get filled with something else.

But listen, give Stefan Jetchick some credit. When's the last time pro-life anything got in the news in Quebec City (my home town)? It doesn't happen very often. He's shaking things up. He should be commended. He's sick of everything and he's not going to take it any more.

And Kathy, given the abrasiveness of your blog, I don't think you should be giving people lessons on reaching people's hearts. You don't have any lessons to give on that point. Sometimes abrasive works.

In the 17th century, when St. Vincent de Paul was winning back the faithful from Protestant in the South of France, he'd send missionaries 2 by 2. One priest would be the lion-- the fire and brimstone preacher. The other would be the lamb-- the guy in the confessional.

It worked.

I kinda like the provocative title of the website.

The hate-filled child-hating marxists responded predictably.

Now it's time to use the time-honoured tactic the left uses ... focus EVERYTHING on their angry reaction.

Those who defend the sanctity of human life have nothing to be ashamed of.

Those who murder many more innocent children in one month than the Inquisition did in its existence will have to answer that fundamental question.

Don't know the exact number of Inquisition ‘victims,' but I know it's less than the number of people who died on 9-11.

I'll get back with the exact number shortly.

from www.thereligionofpeace.com

In its 350-year lifespan only about 4,000 people were put to the stake. Compare that with the witch-hunts that raged across the rest of Catholic and Protestant Europe, in which 60,000 people, mostly women, were roasted. Spain was spared this hysteria precisely because the Spanish Inquisition stopped it at the border. When the first accusations of witchcraft surfaced in northern Spain, the Inquisition sent its people to investigate. These trained legal scholars found no believable evidence for witches’ Sabbaths, black magic, or baby roasting. It was also noted that those confessing to witchcraft had a curious inability to fly through keyholes. While Europeans were throwing women onto bonfires with abandon, the Spanish Inquisition slammed the door shut on this insanity. (For the record, the Roman Inquisition also kept the witch craze from infecting Italy.)

Check out the site itself, and read WHY it is named www.inquisition.ca. It has a long and passionate explanation of why he conciously chose to use the exact word.

You will note that the reason is to unabashadly provote strong reaction. This guy got exactly what he was after when Kate posted a story on it, and when the child-killers mentioned it. His message is getting out there, and good on him.

Thanks, Kate, I would never have found this place without seeing it here first, and I am enjoying his point of view immensely!

In its 350-year lifespan only about 4,000 people were put to the stake

No, it was even less than that. There were 2 Danish researchers who went to Madrid to get the Spanish Inquisition's records. It was ahead of its time, as it recorded everything, and all its records (or close) were preserved. There were approximately 100 000 trials-- this is only on the continent, but I don't recall too much going on in the Americas. They managed to catalogue 44 000 of those records, and when you did all the math, it couldn't have been more than 2-3 per cent.

The Medieval inquisition is a different story, but we have no reason to believe it was any deadlier. (I'm talking about the one in Southern France/Northern Italy).

The US executes more people per year than the Inquisition did (on average) in 300 years. The vast majority of the "action" occurred in the first 50 years of its existence, otherwise, executions were sporadic after the 16th century. Usually they were held in groups.

The Spanish Inquisition didn't actually kill anybody. The King of Spain, who actually had the authority, decided that he would not have any subject in his realm who wasn't a good Catholic. The Inquisition determined who was a good Catholic or not, and they gave those that weren't a chance to change their beliefs. They didn't determine what happened to them if they wouldn't. The King did.

For what it's worth, the Catholic Church has never killed anyone for heresy or even advocated doing so. It certainly has considered it better to respect the undisputed right of a sovereign to put his subjects to death as it suits him than to protect people who wilfully reject the Church. Now obviously, that's grounds for hating them, so hate away.

"Where is it written that Christians are not to be "controversial" and not act on their beliefs?"

So how's the action on the belief that "abortion is murder?" coming along? For what is supposed to be the greatest genocide in history it's not generating much resistance. Or is that "belief" just a load of hot air?

For what it's worth, the Catholic Church has never killed anyone for heresy or even advocated doing so.

That's not technically true. Consider the fact that Rome had its own inquisition and the Pope was the temporal head.

So how's the action on the belief that "abortion is murder?" coming along?

I'm working on it.

For what is supposed to be the greatest genocide in history it's not generating much resistance. Or is that "belief" just a load of hot air?

For many it is. For dedicated pro-lifers, it is not.

Hot air. That's exactly what many Catholics spout on the pro-life issue.

Provocative post K.
Kudos to the CHristian Heritage Party for putting some bite in their bark. As a Catholic who is sick of ignorant Catholics cow-towing to mis-information and propaganda from 'anti' Catholics, I have the urge to stuff their laziness and indifference in their faces too. I don't actually do it enough, and will likely have to answer eventually for my own laziness and indifference.

Want to know more, or the truth, about the Faith- go to the Church. Read the Church Fathers. Read Ratzinger. Heck, read C.S.Lewis! Don't be lazy and get your info from blogs and MSM.

(Disclaimer: I run the infamous www.inquisition.ca website)

Hello my friends in Christ,

I would like to say that there is a whole page on my web site dedicated to the choice of the actual name "www.inquisition.ca"

If you are going to argue whether my web site has a good name or not, maybe you should refer to that page? (I'll give you a hint: it's in the FAQ.)

For the rest, please all remain charitable during this debate, whether or not you claim to be Christians.

God Bless You!

Stefan

A complete list of all executions in the US between 1680-1987, including names, dates and method is readily available, also on www.thereligionofpeace.com.

The claim on that website is that more people were killed in 9-11 than were executed in the past 65 years.

Just a fact-check here.

I doubt very much that the US executed 4000 people per year, which is the claim here.

Be careful with your facts, people.

Stefan, your FAQ doesn't matter and neither does your reasoning, no matter how clever. The people who see the word "inquisition" and go ballistic will never read your FAQ. You have already turned them off and lost the argument, no matter how deep and profound your FAQ may be.

Like many pro-lifers, you seem more interested in displaying your own Catholic bona fides and preaching to the choir than reaching out to the unconvinced. You are hiding your light under a bushel.

If you really believe that abortion is the most pressing issue of our time, you & yours would lose the little baby feet lapel pins and plastic fetus dolls, and try appealing to the women you are trying to reach, rather than turning them off.

How have these strategies been working out so far? Not very good, hmmm? I stayed pro-choice for years precisely because of sites like yours. Yes, that was stubborn and silly of me, but multiply me by a few million. We may be stubborn and silly, but how is your site an invitation rather than a condemnation? We're the women you want to reach and I put it to you that it isn't working.

Profane, secular movies (and yes, abrasive) like Knocked Up will ultimately prevent more abortions than all the Catholic pro-life websites put together, because they reach people where they are, not where YOU are. "The publicans and prostitutes will enter the Kingdom before you..."

"Abrasiveness" isn't the issue -- the use of trigger words like "inquisition" is. The word "crusade" is similar. WE all know that the crimes of the Inquisition and the Crusades have been exaggerated by the secular left, but the average person does not and never will.

But if you are proud of your site, do carry on. How's your traffic, though? How many lives have you really saved?

Your good intentions don't matter as much as results.

All that to say:

As long as pro-lifers are more attached to their failed, off-putting tactics and self-righteousness than they are to really saving lives, abortion will continue to be a problem.

These are the same folks who form fringe political parties with the best of intentions, which espouse all kinds of stuff I actually agree with, but tactically all these Christian parties do is split the vote and give our opponents MORE power.

Again: good intentions are very often canceled out by bad results. It is a sad, tragic and paradoxical fact of life, but if your wedding ring has just rolled down the drain, so is gravity.

Rail all you like, get angry that you're being "misunderstood" all you like, the fact remains that your efforts may still fail, no matter how clever they seem to you.

Because "you" are not your intended audience... This is Marketing 101.

If by "inquiry" you mean booting fake Catholics such as crypto-satanist Warren "I have a documented pattern of attacking Christians to win elections" Kinsella out of the Roman Catholic church then I'm sold.

Where is it written that Christians are not to be "controversial" and not act on their beliefs?
Someone should have told Christ that then no one would have nailed him to a cross....

My Bible is full of stories of how we Christians will be hated.

Didn't the inquisition kill fewer than 911 over 100 yrs?

DrWright:

According to my research, 4000 people were put to death as a result of the activities of the Spanish Inquisition over a period of 350 years.

Nearly half that number were done in during the first 20 years.

Therefore, about 600 fewer people died during the unprovoked 9/11 attacks by the Sword of God guys.

but tactically all these Christian parties do is split the vote and give our opponents MORE power.

LOL so Kathy who is my opponent? If you are pro life like me? I tore up my membership in the CPC after "my opponent" forced the party to go pro-choice. Especially the underhanded shenanigans that went with it back in that March convention. I let my membership lapse before it because I knew how it would go but some well meaning sot must have thought I did a decent job for the alliance and paid for me. Only to have me write to Calgary and tell them where to go.

When almost 80 percent of Canadians are Christian and they have 2 choices who are pro life [that I know of] Western separatists and CHP sure they can hold their noses and vote CPC and hope for the best but why would I. There's about as good a chance of my opponent becoming Pro life as Mulrooney voting for the death penalty.

"wont get fooled again"
Pete Townsend.

So my choices are to vote for a fringe party or hold my nose and go for my opponent, yeech.

Last election I was debating in the voting booth whether to go NDP as a protest vote, not easy for a reform party candidate to do.

Again: good intentions are very often canceled out by bad results.

Indeed the NDP is pro death too same result, and the liberals had lower immigration rates better results there..... just hold my nose and ignore Gomery, surely less of a problem than 3 million dead Canadians.

Not a lot among Main Stream Parties to chose from.

Luckily the MSM's will not point out that the MSP's go against what should be the values of the 80% who are Christian.

The MSM's and MSP's have their hold on the public, for now.

Besides it's not a big deal or my opponent wouldn't have railroaded the process to secure all those NDP pro choice votes.

Far better for me to be at home blogging where it's warm than going door to door, spending all the Thousands I wasted on the Reform and Alliance parties. I can buy an xbox a year,

I'm less decisive about who to vote for next election than Dion is about his policy in Afghanistan.

If the CHP or western separatists had run in my riding they would have gotten my vote. "My opponent" thinks my marginalization is ok.

600 fewer "set you free" I wasn't sure one of those things I mean to research but,... hence I asked the question. Now if you count the total Islam has killed in the last 7 yrs at thereligionofpeace.com

DrWright - You're vote's worth cash. Spend it wisely.

@Suzanne, 11.30 “And Kathy, given the abrasiveness of your blog, I don't think you should be giving people lessons on reaching people's hearts. You don't have any lessons to give on that point.”

Yes, she does. But cutting through scar tissue is a dangerous gift best NOT done 24/7.

@ John Lewis10.16am “The St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre will never be forgotten nor forgiven, certainly not on Earth, probably not in Heaven.”

FYI, there's a small group of Huguenot churches, known as the ERQ, in Quebec (ÉGLISE RÉFORMÉE DU QUÉBEC).

No, not forgotten.

"You're not supposed to make it harder for people to be good"

Sorry I can't make it easier or harder to be good. Jesus clearly stated that only God is good.
Which is why St Paul wrote, "You are saved by grace and not by works lest anyone boast". It is a gift of God just as winning souls to Christ is a gift and not to be boasted about.

Likewise Christianity is not for sale and no amount of marketing will make one bit of difference. As Jesus said, "Do not think that you chose me, no I chose you and one of you is a devil".

I'm still waiting for the inquisition into the nature of Paul Martin's "devout Catholicism".

Little Sour Plumb Face thinks that this is going to turn people off? More than calling the hierarchy "idiots" and leaving the Church to be free to redefine marriage? Little Sour Plumb Face, who seems to be all about being provocative, even when she is wrong, finds this offensive?

It is almost as funny as when Little Sour Plumb Face complains about other people being "frumpy." Oh Little Sour Plumb Face, you fashion plate, you glamour girl, you shicksa!

Wow brave anonymous "meanie", obsessed much? You might want to have your shrink look into that. As well as your cowardice, and your inability to spell common words correctly...

'meanie' makes a point.

This is my favourite blog, and I read it daily, rather than Cdn newspapers, but Kathy doesn't seem to be in the right 'space' to be criticizing others efforts. There are all kinds of 'pr-life' people and orgs, with different targets and methodologies. Getting in someone's face is sometimes a good strategy. If people never have to pay attention, they won't. People who are determined to remain ignorant or wrong, will. Political 'correctness' is not usually championed by SDA.

Meet some people in the trenches, for say the last 40 years, and ask them what has had an impact.(like my folks) Being polite about names? Not!

I would think that Catholics would have been the most uncomfortable by the name, yet it might trigger some of them to read a good book on the subject (written by an academic, not a hack) rather than relying on their grade-school protestant textbooks, or popular 'knowledge'. It doesn't offend me. It raises questions. We can't live our lives dumbing down the conversation. Look how well that has worked out!

The Meanie thinks a nerve in Little Sour Plumb Face has been touched!

But, Little Sour Plumb Face, perhaps you should find a good shrink for when you get back to the bottle after Angus or whatever his name is, goes splits.

And in the meantime, when you have the urge to attack your ex-co-religionists and want to flaunt your own superiority, you should try a little introspection. Just a little. Because otherwise people might just notice that Little Sour Plumb Face is a nasty piece of work and has done far worse for her ex-Faith than these Inquisition folks.

But, we have to remember, Little Sour Plumb Face is really smart, smarter than all the bishops. A real professional writer, who writes real good! Mostly ad copy, but she has a clippings list that runs real long and deep! And she is not afraid to remind anyone of what a major player she is in the Canadian press!

Women in Canada have the right to an abortion, within a certain time period of the pregnancy, as written in the lawbooks. Unfortunately, the written law has little to do with a woman's moral decision to end the life of her child; she will be held accountable for her own decisions and actions to a higher power - the Law of Canada will not set her free from the guilt and pain as the forgiveness of Jesus Christ will.

The mere fact that some women fight tooth and nail to have the right to kill their unborn is unbelievable. Just remember, we all started off with the union of an egg and a sperm.

"Women in Canada have the right to an abortion, within a certain time period of the pregnancy, as written in the lawbooks."

I Disagree Joanne. Notwithstanding guilt and other issues like personal choice, it is not the case that we have an abortion law in the criminal code. When the law was overturned in 1987, it was not replaced with anything. Essentially, there is no ban against abortions, at any point in the pregnancy, and late term abortions do get performed, though they are not the norm.

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalResources/CriminalLaw/tabid/340/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/27/Abortion-Law-in-Canada.aspx

"Therefore, since the Mortgentaler decision, there is no Canadian criminal law which addresses abortion."

Wow, that is an eye-opener; with all the abortions being performed in Canada, I thought for sure it must be law - there you go - that's what I get for thinking. I didn't even realize Canada had dipped so low as to allow late-term abortions. We are truly screwed up.

Kathy, I agree that we have to make it easier, not harder, for people to be good (and to believe in a God who loves them).

But I'm curious to know if you think people are more likely to do this when they visit your own blog and read expressions like "godless morons." If I were an atheist of the more likeable variety (who would probably quite like to have faith) I doubt I'd take kindly to being called a moron.

Mind you, I did laugh when I read that myself, so it's not like I'm better than anyone else.

Good day Mrs. Shaidle,

I continued our conversation here:

Correspondence with Mrs. Kathy Shaidle (www.fivefeetoffury.com)
http://www.inquisition.ca/reactions/kathy_shaidle.htm

Cheers!

Stefan

Muslim, christian or Jew a load of crap is still a load of crap.

Dear "ok4ua".

You say: "Muslim, Christian or Jew, a load of crap is still a load of crap."

I'll answer the same thing I told an Edmonton journalist, Scott McKeen. See:

http://www.inquisition.ca/reactions/scott_mckeen.htm#t2

Cheers!

Stefan

If all the people who do their things in the name of god or who think god tells them. God must be an idiot to want us to believe the assholes than run this world in his name are that. Look at the fools like Bush,Reagan,Harper,Muslims,Christians,Jews Mormons. The stupity of these people just goes on forever. To belive writings than are a few thousand years old that have no basis in fact. There is no proof Jesus even lived in written history and the rest are the same. Buddah was a teacher who was wise and never wanted a religion about him. You are all nuts and kooks. You quote the bible like you realy understand it. It's socialist and always has been. You right wing nuts haven't figured that out yet. Farmers who are mostly right wingers figure their good crops are god given don't realize it's pure shitass luck. We are all here on Earth because the Dinosaurs died and mammals lived. God had nothing to do with it and most of you just can't accept that. The earth is too complicated to have been done in 7 days. It took billions of years. Get with the program. Some people are good some are sick. We call the sick ones evil. The devil had nothing to do with it. The way some of you talk on this blog it's very apparent you're sick and need help no god can give you.

Some anti-Christians are going to throw labels like "inquisition" and "reactionary" against anybody who tries to spread Christian social doctrine in the public square.

Why not then take up the label, stick it on a website that manifests a sense of humor, one that is actually *not* full of ranting and raving, and show the world that we are not the bogeyman the Left imagines?

Don't call me psychic, but I think the writers of that anti-life announcement would be just as hostile if Mr. Jetchick's website were named "birthday-party.ca" instead of "inquisition.ca".