When he asked if the guest was a member of the same secret society as G W Bush in college, he was making it clear that he was an idiot there only to disrupt in the typical childish leftist way. He got what he asked for. He deserved a much bigger spanking.

I enjoyed his pain.

I don't contest the fact that he's an idiot. But you generally wait until idiots are finished their question and refuse to move on before grappling and tasering them.

This just in:
John Kerry has received another Purple Heart.
"I deserve it" replied the former naval officer "I mean he compared me to George Bush, that really hurt man."

What is the background on this tape, Kate? It seems that John Kerry was on stage and that it was filmed on Sept 17/07, but where?

From what we see in the video, there was absolutely no reason to eject this man. Being an idiot, leftard, or gay, or conservative, or part bird, is no excuse. Freedom to ask, to demonstrate peacefully, to express opinion, is as much the idiots right as mine.

From what we saw at the start, he simply asked an uncomfortable question. The only caution I have, is that we didn't see what happened prior to the beginning of the vid.

The problem I have with that video is there's not enough footage at the "front end."

Was the guy supposed to be asking a question?
Did he barge in and grab the mike?

I find it hard to believe that all happened because of the content of the question asked. I think there is much context missing. And I think it's wrong to point to this video as any kind example of an agenda of suppressing the truth by politicians (of any stripe).

Just as with many other purported examples of police brutality and/or suppression of free speech, there may be more to the story at the "front end," as others have hypothesized:

http://tinyurl.com/39yjyt

...arrested AND tortured for asking the wrong question.

In the Klinton admin you either met with an "accident" or an IRS audit for asking embarassing questions.

Bush did the same thing:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpiDqjW-TxY

And Giulli:
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=2457

Gooning reporters or citizens who ask about the constitutionality of CFR made policy, Fed Reserve currency control, IRS, or the membership in secret societies like Skull and Bones or Bohemian grove which Kerry both Bushes and Klinton were members...will be frog walked from the presense of these great men by burly marshals.....or more recently, asking why the 9/11 report was so incomplete and vague seems to be a no no in public forms attended by political elite...ask these questions directly to a inner circle politico in a public form and you will find yourself instantly in the hands of federal marshals.

This is the "new" open public forum in the "New" democracy of the centralized state.

Repressing embarassing questions and reporters is a non partisan affair common to all the CFR connected alumnus in both parties.

The AP article I read suggests as most of the posters here guessed, there was more at the front end. I'm with John West on this one, I rather enjoyed his pain.

"He apparently asked several questions — he went on for quite awhile — then he was asked to stop," university spokesman Steve Orlando said. "He had used his allotted time. His microphone was cut off, then he became upset."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hfZBulx_H-prruRU2Clj0dIgUOww

This video shows quite a different perspective than CNN this morning. CNN spent quite a lot of air time implying that he had been tazered without warning. Sure looks to me as if he had plenty of warning.

John said: "When he asked if the guest was a member of the same secret society as G W Bush in college"

It was a valid question...a lot of Americans wanted to know why 2 candidates ( cousins as well I understand) from the same pampered class and its secret societies end up in contest over the presidency....seems like he was wondering about a frick and frak candidate team from 2 parties which are becoming flip sides of the same coin. CBS reporters asked Bush and Kerry the same question without arrest or tasering.

If you "enjoy the pain" of a citizen being gooned and tortured without provocation or charges for exercising his RIGHTS to question public officials in a democracy I'm sure you loved what went on in Tiananmen square...because it amounts to the same thing on a larger scale....too many people asking idiotic questions leaders do not want discussed there that day too.

The freedom in a democracy is defined by how it treats so called political fringe..those who peacefully exercise the right to question or voice opposition to the status quo...no doubt this guy was not a Kerry supporter but neither was he there to threaten him and his conduct was civil until he was illegally arrested.

What disgusted me were the gutless droids that let the cops goon and torture this guy illegally. 100 years ago in America those cops would be facing an angry mob....but then people back then took their freedoms seriously and intolerant of official criminality.

When the founding fathers set up the first central government they realized that power was a certain and prevasive corruptor of governing bodies...they suggested that there be a revolution bout every 20 years to clean up government and re establish the responsive republic....I think they are long over due.

Here's a clip (very shaky) with much more "front end":
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag

You know, Drained Brain, I must be stupid, but I still don't see how this explains the tazering and handcuffing:

...Then you enter the video that has been circulating around, where he asks his question, not before Accent Speaker’s Bureau president, Stephen Blank (in some videos, front row left side of right aisle), signals the AV guys to cut Meyer off. Meyer then was confused what happened, and then was dragged up the auditorium....

Whoops - and here's a very important part of the video writeup from that shaky "front end" link I just posted (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag):

"I couldnt get to my camera in time to record his entrance, but this guy basically comes running in with 4 or 5 cops in tow and says he has been running around trying to get in to ask a question and the cops are going to arrest him for it. they almost do it then but Sen. Kerry says he will answer it. he then answers a previous question someone else asked (i cut that part out because it isnt important to this video) then the guy asks his questions and when he is done all hell breaks lose."

PS: This event is pretty simple to analyse...this is a case which demonstrates how the "new politics" revolve around totally stage managed photo op public events. In this case an embarrassing question ruined this micro managed PR event ( the last thing it was is a truely open public forum)....the official reaction was an extension of political class elitist vindictiveness with a public which will not drink their koolade or march lockstep to their control systems. This guy represented the segment of the voting public who are unplugged from the propaganda matrix created by partisan political forces....they literally attacked the guy....the sneering contempt of officialdom for differing opinion is obvious.

I also note that this over reaction and the presense of these goons shows you how damn scared these political elites are of us...they fear public appearances...guilty consciences?...maybe the paranoia of robber plutocrats?

According to the story via Drudge, this student had asked several question, one asking Kerry why he did not contest the 2004 election. He went over his allotted time. He was asked to sit down, and refused.
He has got his 15 minutes of fame.

Bush did the same thing:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpiDqjW-TxY

Will there be the trespassing charges against Meyer is the key question.

I don't contest the fact that he's an idiot. But you generally wait until idiots are finished their question and refuse to move on before grappling and tasering them.

Especially when someone else with a mic goes "that's all right let me answer his question."

First,

Further updates from Michelle Malkin [ http://tinyurl.com/39yjyt ] including the fact the "victim's" previous claim to fame was "taunting" Ken Griffey Jr:

http://tinyurl.com/3c7rzr

"What're you going to do, arrest me?" He's certainly had his 15 minutes of fame:

."a lot of Americans wanted to know why 2 candidates ( cousins as well I understand) from the same pampered class and its secret societies end up in contest over the presidency...."

Funny, in Canada, nobody asks, they're afraid of offending someone who might further their career.

Demerais, Trudeau,Mulroney,Chretien,Martin.

Point made Dmorris...American establishment is intolerant of questions about its lineage....the Canadian political establishment just blanks out ALL media accounts of its existance.

Lefties torturing lefties. God, I love the internet.

"Don't taser me, bro!"

The guy was an annoying little moonbat, but, the cops could have handled this much better. What's ridiculous is Kerry droning on in the background. You'd think Kerry using his leadership skills which thank God weren't inflicted on the us that election could have helped defuse the situation.

Kerry comes across as as big an idiot.

Hey, c'mon, everyone, you know "THEY" are all FreeMasons/Bildenbergers/NewWorldOrderites/KnightsTemplars/BadWhiteMen. And they've schemed since the Middle Ages to maintain control over the world. Man, they even control the weather cycles that affect crops over the decades (which decides which nations are the strongest), and the way people propagate so "THEY" can control demographics (which in turn controls which society rules the others) . . . there's just no end to "THEIR" nefarious scheming to maintain power, man. They can control everything!!!

Actually, Kerry, Bush et al are just a bunch of privileged rich kids, born into priveleged and long-standing American families, and naturally go to the same Ivy League schools and end up in the same fraternities. It happens. Clinton was an exeption, but I don't think that makes him a better or worse man than a privileged member of the Bush family. It all depends what you do with the power once you get it.

Bush and Kerry are not controlled by some nebulous "THEY." The two men couldn't stand each other during 2004, and were very different in their approach to things like taxes, the War on Terror, health-care, etc.

No big, scheming group of people, no matter how rich, can control world events. Too many things are outside of anyone's control.

Both Bush and Kerry, like many politicans, don't want their speeches interrupted by questioners who grab a microphone to push their own agenda. So some uniformed troopers/guards/police push the questioners out the door. It would happen anywhere, especially if the questioner seems menancing. Politicians do get shot, after all.

That tasered fellow was treated a bit roughly, though.

Sen. Kerry attempted to answer what he called the “very important question”, but his calm, measured words were drowned out by the screaming of the newly-energized Mr. Meyer.

Later, the professional Vietnam veteran expressed concern that the student’s freedom of speech had been squelched in “a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan…that is, if Mr. Khan had been able to buy a high-voltage stun gun.”

http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2689

Heh heh...

Aside from the obvious Irony of a Democrat being harassed by a moonbat....?

If public stupidity were actually a crime there would many leftards enjoying the hospitality of the penal system... no love for moonbats from me.
BUT there's a lot of good reason to question what happened here.

First - if they wanted to remove him a simple use of the come-along hold by ONE of the guards would have been sufficient. Were these actual police or just rent a goon mall cops?

Second - because they were incapable of controlling him the situation escalated (100% the Guards Fault).

This clown who was tazered did not deserve what he got. The security guards were incompetent and should be fired and sued till they bleed for the treatment they gave the moonbat.

A little professionalism would have gone a long way.

A lot of Hot Air here:

http://tinyurl.com/27xtss

I'm with Ann on the "THEY".

Pardon me for asking but when a tazer is used on a suspect doesn't it generally leave the suspect momentarily immobilized, to my understanding it disables the muscular system. At no time during the skuffle did the suspect appear to be immobilized, however he did seem to be stunned from the start of the vid.

"Lefties torturing lefties. God, I love the internet.

"Don't taser me, bro!"

Posted by: Michael at September 18, 2007 1:42 PM"

Hey, Kerry was just the speaker, republicans control the state.

I'm not saying that this was staged, but at 2:15 the female security guard looks right at the camera, followed by the second guard (are they making sure the camera is on and they are being taped?). At 2:08 he holds the book in the air and looks right at the security guards (is this the go signal), up until then they are pretty much disinterested in the guy. Just as she begins to move forward, the female security guard appears to signal something with her right hand to the perpetrator. The rest appears to be bad overacting, and not just on the part of the guy being taken down.
Staged? Who knows, but then again the republicans have been know to stage fictional events and massage facts to manipulate public opinion www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyn8Kb_do8g
(sounds like Harper doesn’t it?). That's how the US ended up in Iraq to begin with.

Tazer is simply a step-up transformer fed from an oscillator. It has a knob to control the voltage. They might have just tickled the guy out of compassion with something like 25000V.

I used to fix TV sets in the early days of my youth. 25K volts hurts like dickens, but does not incapacitate.

Every now and then I think I should be more open to other views - so I just wasted a few seconds reading some of alby123's raving paranoia.
Seriously, do you think these people will recover when Bush leaves?

Security people handled it badly, It looked really bad

Aaron: "I used to fix TV sets in the early days of my youth" That explains a lot ;-0

Idiot was indeed a doufus but as said earlier the cops (mall police?) certainly dropped the ball. They all seem to tazer people a lot more these days and it isn't because their life was in danger either. I've seen old school cops put the cuffs on a person before they even had a chance to argue the point. And it was a lot less of a U Tube moment then.

albatros:
...WOW...
Please tell me you are writing satirically.
I honestly do fear for your mental health if you even begin to believe what you just typed and commited to the digital realm forever.
I dont even think paranoia goes far enough to describe this form of psychosis.
In all seriousness, maybe it's time to push away from the computer for a while and get some fresh air. It really does do a person good.

Tazers instead of bullets.

I'd say it's a step more civilized than Kent state.

Despite the fact that it's a conspiracy moonbat taking on Kerry, our own resident moonbat, albatros, has attempted to somehow connect this to Harper.

Beak first again.

"Tazers instead of bullets.

I'd say it's a step more civilized than Kent state."

In Canada the Liberals used pepper spray, and the RCMP. Perhaps thats because the Right Honourable Jean Chretien couldn't put a Tazer on his plate.

Two blokes never stop to amaze me: albatros and lberia.

its all an ad by the taser people.

paid actors, even kerry was in on it.

what, youve never been paid under the table?

the boring lead up confab can be viewed here, seems to be a diff camera:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=657_1190085332

cherrio !!!

"Two blokes never stop to amaze me: albatros and lberia.

Posted by: Aaron at September 18, 2007 4:47 PM"

Thank you Aaron, I really am amazing. I'm sure Iberia isn't half bad either.

Wow, if this guy deserved to be arrested and tazered for that question, what the heck does Kerry to long winded senior citzens. CBS 60 Minutes in 2004 stated that Bush and Kerry were members of a secret society. So why was this guy really tazered. Two minutes per question for an animated or irate audience member is standard fair in Nova Scotia.

Bryan at September 18, 2007 3:53 PM

"Please tell me you are writing satirically."

I take it you believe pro-wrestling is real too?

Looking at the other video and the witnesses on Michelle Malkin's site - yeah I have to agree the guy deserved to be removed. Arrested and tazered though? That's 'disproportionate'.

Security man myself in large mall. Seen the whole thing except for weapons (thank heaven) been used by customers. This man has been identified as a practical joker elsewhere. Pretending to be a drunk patron in a tavern and trying to pick up a strange woman. I guess the patrons were a little tolerant. (laughs)

If there is a person absolutely upset and out of control, of one thing security can be sure of.

They did it wrong.

If that guy tried pulling that attitude with my city's cops they would have been a lot more violent, cameras or not. I'm having a hard time picking sides on this one.

Albatross, you are truly beyond parody.

"Arrested and tazered though? That's 'disproportionate'."

The hell. I watched one of the videos, and the clown was asking for it. At any time during that whole confrontation, all he had to do was simmer down, stop yelling, stop trying to get away from the cops, and he'd have been peacefully led out of the place. Instead he makes the grandstanding fool of himself, right from the start (this is a United States Senator he's talking to - did he honestly expect them not to cut him off when he asked about a secret skull-and-crossbones society?), and didn't leave the cops much choice. No sympathy from me. Hell, I laughed out loud at how much of a pussy he sounded like after the first tasering - "Ow! Ow! Ow!" in this girly scream voice (no offense Kate).

He looked like he was doing it to get himself filmed and get his 15 minutes of fame. The stupid part is it worked, because I ended up watching the video after not giving a damn about it all day.

Anne said, in response to some nutter who thinks the world is governed by "coincidence":

"Kerry, Bush et al are just a bunch of privileged rich kids, born into priveleged and long-standing American families, and naturally go to the same Ivy League schools and end up in the same fraternities. It happens. Clinton was an exeption,"

This is true but it needs more qualification.
Kerry and Bush are "American establishement bloodlines"...Skull and Bones, the Bohemia Grove club, CFR and Trilateral group are "establishment" exclusive societies. They are filled with power brokers and ambitious sycophants of all partisan stripes. Those who think that the New world order is about tinfoil hatters seeing black helicopters and police state take overs by shadowy global demigods have taken a very creative fictional approach to what stares them in the face.

Both Europe and America (and Canada to a much lesser degree) have had a long standing network of establishment families who have had disproportionate representation in the ruling political class...in Europe this is peerage and old money..in the US it is just establishment families with old money and politically connected nouveau-riche immigrant families...these people are the establishment...and anyone who does not believe they network to use their wealth and power to buy and broker political influence and effect public and foreign policy is just in foolish denial.

Thus it is that the Kerry-Bush presidential fight was such a farce...2 establishment class panderers with essentially the same agenda with the same cadre of backers connected to the same policy making tanks (CFR/Trilateral)...and the people were being shamed that they had diametrically opposed agendas because of the facade of differnt party affiliations.

US party politics has devolved to 2 faces of the same coin with the establishment class in control of both parties...the policy differences are superficial...establishment wealth is secured and only public wealth is risked in policy schemes/agendas.

Now that may not be shocking news or as sexy as the "creative hysteria" over a coming new world order police state led by Darth vader...but the fact IS that the political class establisment has undermined the proper function of the republic by the incestuous power brokering done by exclusive establishment institutions like the CFR/Chase Manhatten/Trilateral cartels having undue influence on the party system and political leadership.

Is it a conspiracy...yes in a way, even though it isn't very "secret"...it's done fairly openly in these elite institutions..WF Buckley used to denounce these establishment power cartels all the time...it's just not talked about a lot in the mainstream media (Which the establishment owns or controls)...what it amounts to is rich and powerful establishment families/people networking to ensure that they always have a controlling reign on any government and the party system....we all know what can happen if the unwashed libertarian rabble that created this republic were allowed back in control of it...now don't we?

Oh BTW Anne: Clinton WAS a insider brat...that's how he got his Rhodes scholar status even with abysmal grades and avoided the draft...Daddy was a well connected southerner who just loved the posh cat houses of the old south...he dragged lil' billy with him many a time and that's how Slick get his deep respect for womanhood. I believe they referred to this type of political juice as white trash Dems...like all the famous southern Dem "bosses" from Huey Long to LBJ...womanizers who had a personal police force kept busy cleaning up after "the boss".

To all who don't believe there is an American aristocracy which has controlled public policy from the balcony, read Carroll Quigley's book "tragedy and Hope"...it's a historic record of American and British plutocratic aristocracy and the political intrigues they manipulated from behind the scenes.

He's considered the prime authority on the American elite...and he was Bill Clinton's history teacher and a fellow CFR Officer like Bush and Clinton...nawwww that's just coincidence!

"The chief problem of American political life for a long time has been how to make the two Congressional parties more national and international. The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties are almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy." (Prof. Carroll Quigley 1960)

I am reassured by the comments of Kate...WL Mackenzie Redux and the others here who understand that freedom of speech extends to everyone.

I have seen several versions of this video including the brief clip on CTV news. In everyone of them I see a man being brutalized for having the audacity to exercise his right to speak and pose good unanswered questions.

Sometimes I wonder at the ostensible conservatives on the forums here at SDA who seem determined to drive votes away from PM Stephen Harper.

"In everyone of them I see a man being brutalized for having the audacity to exercise his right to speak and pose good unanswered questions."

I see an unwaged goof aggressively resisting arrest, laying his hands on a female cop, and taking advantage of the fact there are cameras on him to act in a manner that would ordinarily get his face smashed. And I see cops who I know if the cameras weren't rolling would be laying on some gratuitous violence. As I said, hard to pick sides.

It was all the rage on talk radio today.
They played the sound of that stupid tool getting tasered about 400 times, and I feel even that wasn't nearly enough. It's the feel good video of 2007!
I'm watching it again...

Hi Andrew: "As I said, hard to pick sides".The thing is we are talking about an individual on one side and the State on the other.

Now there is a fair bit of suspicion swirling around the media and internet that this Meyer guy is an accomplished 'attention whore'. Still even 'attention whores' have the right to be free of undue interference by the State.

And those security people are not "rent-a-cops, they are the full time University of Florida Police, two of whom have just been suspended by the University administration.

I have chosen sides and I'm with attention whore Meyer. :)

"I see an unwaged goof aggressively resisting arrest, laying his hands on a female cop,"

Hey Andrew...you're pretty unhinged yourself and your all over the map in your politics...I think you just like to be contrary to get an argument.

For those who feel good about this police torture... who also feel it can't be done to them:

1) Buddy asked if he was being arrested...no answer from police

2) Buddy lawfully asks them to take their hands off him if he is not under arrest...he wasn't at the time no charges and no provocation and NO PROBABLE CAUSE were evident!

3) HE WAS PERFECTLY WITHIN HIS RIGHT TO RESIST UNLAWFUL POLICE ABDUTION which is what this amounted to( BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY TO STOP THE ILLEGAL ATTACK)

What ensued ammounted to police torture of an illegally abducted citizen for no justifiable reason.

And I don't give a wet flying FXXK WHAT your think of him or his politics if you can condone this police brutalizing because of your Gawd damned partisan blinders you are civilly retarded.

Any 10-year-old kid who's taken karate classes could have brought down this buffoon.

Have a look at the physical attributes of the rent-a-cops.

Would you be afraid of any of them?

Seems to me rent-a-cops or real cop should be able to take down a loudmouth like this if they needed to.

Tazering is for sissies.

PS.

Were these not campus police?

I'd guess there are no physical standards in that line of work and judgemental ability is really unimportant.

Look again at the physical attributes.

"What ensued amounted to police torture of an illegally abducted citizen for no justifiable reason."

Agreed, and what I find disturbing is the way so many people keep trying to find a reason to dislike Meyer on purely personal bias, so that they can sanction the illegal abuse by the police.

As you point out it looks like we are trending towards one of those decisive moments in history when we will all be called upon to become clear about our politics and choose sides.

Big discussions going on at http://reddit.com/info/2qls3/comments
And http://digg.com/politics/Student_Tasered_at_John_Kerry_s_speech_at_UF_with_Video

"I think you just like to be contrary to get an argument."

Sure, but do you not think a Canadian cop would hesitate to knee you in the gut if you carried on like that guy did? Cops arrest people under flimsy pretense all the time then release them. To sympathize with this clown betrays a lack of street sense. Cops in my town have beaten people on video and gotten away with it and maybe when it happens in your town too you'll smell what I am cooking. It's like the Surete de Quebec provocateurs at the SPP fiasco; I'm like "am I the only one who's been "assaulted" by the Quebec cops while on a bender in Montreal here?" Matter of perspective I suppose.

"Sure, but do you not think a Canadian cop would hesitate to knee you in the gut if you carried on like that guy did?"..."To sympathize with this clown betrays a lack of street sense".

We are not really talking about "street sense" which no doubt is a handy thing to have. Neither am I saying that a Canadian cop couldn't or wouldn't "knee you in the gut" if sufficiently provoked.

So one more time: The State and and its functionaries may not break the law and arbitrarily taser citizens who are exercising their rights of citizenship.

ann, and your point?, whatever. I'm sure you thought you had a handle on it. But, this is priceless in its irrelevance..."Clinton was an exeption"...that he had trailor trash roots didn't keep the guy out of the White
House if your point was how class conscious America is. His lack of class with an intern, the details are creepy by any standard, certainly did make him an exception.

It's really worth looking at Michele Malkin's updates on this story before reaching a conclusion.

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/17/student-tasered-at-john-kerry-forum/#comments

OK, the dude is a left moonbat. At a lefty moonbat party for a rich lefty moonbat. He jumps the que to ask some awkward questions and the organizer of the event gives the go ahead to purge the event of the offending dude.

I don't think that anyone should be tortured/harassed/ or otherwise intimidated for asking questions at a public event. This was not a wedding or some private occasion. It was a public event. I'm sure we can all appreciate the irony of a lefty getting zapped by other lefties, but I really don't think this a road that should be travelled by a free and democratic society.

I train Canadian cops in self defense from time to time. You would be amazed by how LITTLE training majority of them get. American cops are no different.

I would have thought that after the lessons of the Duke/Durham/Nifong case, people would be a little less inclined to rush to judgment and to fail to express their appreciation of the concept of innocent until proven guilty -- for both sides in this case.

The government cannot deny you freedom to speak. Says so right in the U.S. and Canada statutes (modulo too many exceptions). Nevertheless, a contract, between private entities, such as the owner of the site and the promoter of the event, can bind all participants to rules, the violation of which are grounds for expulsion. You can, if you like, think of them as the conditions under which you won't be considered to be trespassing.

You may have noticed this phenomenon if you've ever been ejected by a bouncer; I, of course, have not.

If you don't like it, go stand on a soap box located on real estate owned by the public commons. But you can't come into my house, or my business, and do whatever you want, and I have a say in that, over and above the floor set by the state's statues.

And if I over-react thereto then the law kicks in again. Those are the parameters under which this case will be judged. I don't see it as a moral dilemma, and I don't think it has anything to do with the Search for the Holy Grail.

I accessed a blog by Michelle Malkin. She may be comparitively unknown to Canadians. Her latest contains some information on the tasered one.

One of the most telling pieces is to refer to this man's blog. In it he absolutely gloats over taunting and jeering at a professional baseball player. This as a spectator. The player is Ken Griffey jr. He exults in the irate player obviously rattled and then performing poorly.

The man is one of these mentally sick people who disguises the fact. He uses seemingly legitimate ways initially to vent his outrage.

As for security - damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I used to fix TV sets in the early days of my youth. 25K volts hurts like dickens, but does not incapacitate.

Posted by: Aaron at September 18, 2007 2:57 PM "

I did too mr aaron but I never got zapped. I always waited a good 15 minutes for the copper coil behind the pic tube to discharge and even then I would ground it with a screw driver to make sure.

going around the neighborhood offering to fix tube type televisions made me pocket change. t'was a gamble though, if the tubes I replaced wasnt enough to get the set working it was a loss.

but the training in electrical things paid off hugely later in life.

mr vitruvius makes a valid point.

would it not be incumbent of the securitats to warn the loudmouth a taser was imminent? to not do so in my opinion breaches excessive use of force.

ie the ones in the uniform for the 80 millionth time overreact.

I had a bloke park his arse on my front step insisting he had the right to do so, in support of some dame claiming I owed her money (I didnt).

a swift kick to the groin area and a challenge he try it with the mayor of the city convinced him to leave the premises.

Sure, the guy was an idiot but that is what you get when you have police officers that don't know what they are doing. A properly trained police officer could have removed him properly with a minimum of fuss. They were ham handed and incompetent. Every last one of them deserves to be suspended. 5 of them tackling a guy and then tasering him on the ground. Those clowns should stick to the feeble old senior citizen beat.

What this guy is or says is not important. They could have shut off the mic. The reaction of the police (of what ever strain) is important. For Andrew the woman cop appears to be the primary aggetator, in a situation like this if she doesn't want to get something shoved in her face she shouln't stick her face in. The 5 or 6 cops are to blame and at least should be fired for incompetence.
If you don't think that police in Canada routinely break the law and or ignore it for politicaly expediency I give you the OPP and Caldonia, many times over, or the RCMP who take a hand-cuffed victim into a back room, shoot him in the back of the head and claim self defence.
The sad part is that all the sheeple sat and watched all this happen. This happens all the time. We deserve what we get

They did shut off the mic, as I understand it. The authorities were, in my opinion, being ham-handed. The accused was, in my opinion, being unreasonable. Thus, at this point, as I mentioned, it becomes a matter of law, not of philosophy.

And don't forget that John Campbell Argyll said: "Hard cases make bad law".

The people who sympathized with the unwaged goof just got taken for a ride - by the unwaged goof's own admission:

Police report student told them: 'You didn't do anything wrong'

"GAINESVILLE - Police have released the incident report detailing the Tasering of a University of Florida student during a campus forum with Sen. John Kerry Monday, and the officer who actually Tasered Andrew Meyer wrote in the report that Meyer later told police, "You didn't do anything wrong."

In the 12-page report, which gives accounts of the incident from the perspective of eight different officers who were present Monday afternoon, Officer Nicole Mallo writes that Meyer would only resist officers when cameras were present.

"As (Meyer) was escorted down stairs (at the University Auditorium) with no cameras in sight, he remained quiet, but once the cameras made their way down stairs he started screaming and yelling again," Mallo wrote.

http://www.starbanner.com/article/20070918/NEWS/70918007/1053/BREAKING_NEWS

Hi Penny. I'm not a big fan of Clinton, not a fan at all, and I didn't mean to imply that when I wrote he was an exception to the rich, privileged boys getting into important fraternities. I had always heard that he was a poor kid from a disfunctional family, that's all. WL Mackenzie Redux's comments on his past were enlightening -- I'd never heard that version.

WL Mackenzie Redux -- thanks for your info. I'm still skeptical about a menancing group controlling the reins of power, but I have to confess that some things do make one wonder . . .

It looks like this little narcissistic moonbat wasted no time in publicizing himself.

http://www.theandrewmeyer.com/

Andrew @ 7.09AM you have been well and truely hooked and reeled in. I was taught in basic training not to believe anything you hear and only half of what you see, 45 years later it is still accurate with the exception or see. Maybe it should be down to 5 or 10%.
I assume by the name Nicole that your are reffering to the female cop. If that is so it appears that she standing back and screeming at Meyer probably caused more harm than the rest combined.

HUH: I did a bit more than replaced the tubes. Firing up horizontal synch w/o a tube attached for testing can sometimes zap a tech. I don't know a TV tech that never got zapped and I know quite a few of them. Even monkeys fall from trees.

What ever happened to ignoring what you feel may be an inappropriate question?

Freedom of speech extends to those whose speech we might not agree with and/or those we might not like.

Who cares what this guy's political affiliation was? There's no justification for any kind of police brutality. Unfortunately this is becoming normal and we are slowly heading towards becoming a police state. The U.S. is just a little further down the road than Canada.

But, that doesn't mean Harper and his cronies aren't planning on singing from the same hymn book when it comes to limiting free speech. It was good enough for Chretien at APEC wasn't it?

I can't believe that there are people out there who feel it's okay to trample the rights of others they don't agree with. I'm sure there were people out there who thought it was just fine to shoot those protesters at Kent State too.

Assaulting one person's right to free speech is assaulting everyone's right to free speech. It starts there and moves incrementally. There are plenty of examples out there (the ironically named PATRIOT act and Canada's version of it.)

While I might not agree with what everyone has to say, I'm glad they're free to say it. Maybe we could all develop a little more tolerance and have an honest discourse on political issues rather than the name calling and idiocy that passes for debate these days.

Free speech doesn't include everyone else being forced to listen.

If he was in pain, I doubt he would be saying 'ooww'. Leftards should take notice, if you want to report or feign pain 'oowww' doesn't cut it. It never did. Oooww is like a hang nail, or less. Everyone in reality is thinking you should suck that up. Your finger nails will come back,...

These comments sadden me. Regardless of how idiotic or narcissistic this fool is, we can't accept police tackling or tasering him because we disagree with him. Everyone has a right to be a total jerk.

If you support the publishing of those Danish cartoons (I do), then you support this guy's right to ask even stupid questions. Freedom to speak inoffensively is freedom not worth having.

There's always been too much hate on this site for me to stomach reading daily - this just reaffirms what a cult of hate Kate commands.