Steffi will not go to Afghanistan because it is too dangerous a place for a coward. Same for Taliban Jack and I the danger may not necessarily be from the enemy.

Re the interview ... Watching a puff like Mansbridge destroy a wimp like Dion is like watching a fist fight at a gay wedding. Completely laughable.

pwnd!

Interesting. Dion has labeled poverty as one of his top 4 non-negotiable priorities for the throne speech. Did poverty in Canada all of a sudden jump in the short period the Conservatives have been in office? Why wasn't it a priority in the decade of Liberal rule before that? If poverty in Canada could be fixed by a bit of government resolve, surely the Liberals would have done so. And if it can't be fixed by a bit of government resolve, why is Dion making such a bit deal about it?

Props to Mansbridge from here as well,

"Alright, we'll leave it at that."

Only Prep H can make that swelling go down.

Perhaps Stephane Dion can ask the Taliban if they are indeed interested in a 'handgun ban'.

That should go over swimmingly.

Might I suggest a flak jacket and helmet.

Q? Has Steffi given up his Fwaaannnccce citizenship yet?
John West...how dare you. I've seen some really good cat-fights at gay weddings. Steffi would be trampled underfoot so fast, his a** would become his nose! :)

Steffy is a bufoon beyond comparison to any other. Even Cretin could occassionaly make sense but not often. Steffy is simply a train wreck and nothing will ever save him. Even given months of tutoring and lessons he still comes off as an ingormaus on nearly every subject. You'd think he was a someone who rarely saw the world as it is, was educated in a university, and then considered himself brilliant....wait a second....hmmmmm

Justthinkin, right, then he could apply the Prep H to his nose.

Well, maybe kudos to Petey Mansbridge, but let's face it, he's gotta be getting flak from a lot of Canadians who rely on CBC for news, so once in a while he has to get real.

I can't see the Forces being too excited to see Dion, they have to be well aware of where he stands.
Ditto Layton. Maybe they should go together and take Duceppe along, they could sing Kumbaya and have a chat with the Taliban in a tent somewhere.

It's staggering to think that an intellect as vacant as Dion once had a spot as a cabinet minister. I get lefty trolls through here who are more coherent.

Cowards don't go to Afghanistan without prodding or being intimidated to do so.

Taliban Jack should go though, in accordance with his personal convictions, and run around the country asking which one of the head lobbers he could negotiate peace with.

I would give my life savings to watch a video of Dion eating a hotdog in front of our troops!

hmmm..my housemate in college was a strapping 6' 4" steel worker, all round good guy, intellect in the higher percentile, a mixed martial artist and published author.oh yeah..he was also gay, and was anything but effeminate..

He also hates Dion..! and anything that smells of liberal rot..!..

I think the analogy would be more along the lines of Mr. Burns trying to take his old bear from Maggie, and failing! heh heh..

the troops in Afghanistan wouldn't give him the time of day.

Layton they would either shoot or give him a giant wedgy by stringing him up the flagpole.

Either way, each of them would have a PR disaster on their hands.

When the CBC (or Star or Globe) actually start asking some semi-tough questions like Mansbridge did at the end of the interview, its a sign that the decision has already been made to dump Dion.

We saw the media take the same kind of action with Paul Martin when there was no longer any possibilty of spin or denial of the ongoing train wreck that defined his leadership.

Dion is in a death spiral and theres no coming out of it. The media will now take the opportunity to rough him up a bit on his ride into oblivion so they can pat themselves on the back while they pretend that this is evidence of their lack of extreme anti conservative bias.

I was serious about Layton. Appoint him special envoy for peace to Afghanistan, to meet with the Taleban and tell him as soon as he has reached a peace deal, with the grand poobah over there, the troops come home. Lets see how committed he is to his public utterings and worldly wisdom. Surely his spoken convictions mean exactly what he believes and vice versa. Or am I wrong? he he.

I agree - I think Dion hasn't been to Afghanistan because the troops wouldn't welcome him - and he and his backroom guys know this. It would be a PR disaster.

How about his petulant informing Mansbridge how much he has accomplished since he's been The Leader?

His Four Requirements for the Throne Speech - now wait a minute. He can't dictate what's in the Throne Speech; he's not the PM. Remember - when the last budget was coming up, he declared that he would vote against it - and this was before he'd even read it!

Now - he's dictating the content of Harper's government agenda. Or else.

He wants his Kyotoist disaster.

The economy? He is saying that Harper has ignored the economy for the last 18 months? Harper has signed trade agreements, ended the softwood lumber dispute (kept alive by the Liberals as an anti-American propaganda tactic)..etc etc.

Poverty? What's this - a socialist feel-good emotional ploy?

Afghanistan?

These are all vapid 'cloud-dweller' agendas, appealing to the emotions of safety and fear (clean air, economy...and poverty, war). But apart from this agenda of emotional harassment, Dion has nothing to offer.

ward (7:45) nails it.

Which passport will he use?

When asked why he hadn't gone to Afghanistan yet he said that he was really busy this summer. I guess hanging out with Garth Turner and having BBQs is pretty important. He was in Cabinet when the troops were sent there by the Liberals. WHAT A GUTLESS PUKE. If he did go, the only welcome he would get would be by the troops that were forced to be on parade on his arrival based on his position as Leader of the Official Opposition. I doubt very much that the VAN DOOs would be happy to see him.

"The media will now take the opportunity to rough him up a bit"

Good point. Plus, now that it's painfully obvious that he's a failure, it's up the media to encourage a change of leader for the good of the party, and their future job opportunities.

I also agree with Ward.

Agreed that Mansbridge should be given credit for actually asking a tough question.

But, since we all know that CBC folks aren't allowed to ask tough questions of those who are (or are expected to become) their Liberal overlords, I'm not sure that this signifies any real change in ethics.

Instead, might this just be an indication that Mansbridge's bosses want Dion to look bad so that they can turf him ASAP? It's already clear to everyone that, indeed, "Stephane Dion is not a leader." So, maybe they just want to assist in the assasination in order to give another leadership candidate a chance.

Maybe I'm just too cynical when it comes to the CBC and the Liberals.

"It's not fair"

Mansbridge forces him to answer question, Travers calls his byelection performance a debacle - the tipping point is approaching. If he loses Outremont and Tories take seat on Monday night, he will be in serious trouble. Yet he is dictating the terms of his support of Tory government. What a laugh.

More evidence his head is in the clouds - apparently NDP doing well against his handpicked candidate because, believe it or not, voters are mad at Conservatives (yeah, he said that).

He's not Chretien, who had the moxie to get away with silly statements. I actually feel sorry for the guy. His english seems to be getting worse; or was is that he was flustered by Mansbridge's Afghan question. He can surely expect a tougher time on the hustings and in debates.

No wonder the moonbats are howling.

Ward and sounder are both bang-on. In both cases the leftist is/would be left staring blankly back at the audience their bluff having been called.

The LP thinks the solution is now to dump Dion. They are wrong. The ills - near-Stalinist policies and an unrepentantly corrupt attitude - and moral bankruptcy - 'spooning' with the islamo-fascists, for example - have left the party deeply flawed and divided within itself.

(Remember when they were seen as the party of women's rights? Now they are sympathetically support the nutjobs who if they win will cutting out your four-year-old granddaughter's clitoris some 20 years from now. They support Sharia law for chrissakes. (This is a golden opportunity for the right to take over that moral high-ground, BTW.)I digress...)

It will be a decade at least before the LP becomes a coherent and sane option for voter - or it disappears as the LP in GB did early in the last century.

Thanks for letting me watch that again Kate. It's fun to watch Ratatooie twist in the wind. " It's not fair Peter, I was busy in that other foreign hotspot Saskatchewan"

I think ward is completely right.

The MSM are primarily Liberal and they - and the backroom guys - have decided against Dion.

Notice also how the MSM and the political 'pundits' are constantly eager for an election.

When Harper was elected, the rhetoric was all about 'how long can it last' and each week, they predicted Harper would fall. They wanted him to fall - before Canadians began to get the 'feel of Harper - and to like what he was doing.

Then - with Dion - the rhetoric was about Harper's agenda of an election. It was all about a Spring Election. Day after day after day. They were very disappointed. This time, I think it was to get rid of Harper before people liked him, and also, a concern about Dion.

Now, again - it's talk about The Fall Election. They are desperate for it now. This time, it's to get rid of Dion...and...to prevent people from realizing how good Harper is.

Ward is right - the MSM are now after him - and their self-praise will be not only as a show of non-bias vs the CPC, but, 'wisdom' that they saw through Dion.

Monday - an interesting day.

when stuffi makes it to afghanistan: "da real earho arrife! Dat tulliban I know dey get da money for airwin and I get vironment ding."

ET you are correct. Harper has lasted far longer than they thought now the are standing around looking as if they just wet themselves, and now they realize who the imbeciles really are and gosh! Harper is real.

Knowing what was coming when I watched the video, I kept my eye on Dion as Mansbridge was asking the kind of questions he'd usually only lob at
C(c)onservatives.

Dion's expression? No change at all: not a muscle. His vacant expression remained completely unchanged, including when he gave his asinine response. (This man has no shame. Of course not: that word doesn't exist in the Liberal lexicon.)

Is this man for real? (Rhetorical question.)

At least we didn't have to watch him squirm trying to answer that last question. That type of thing makes me uncomfortable. It doesn't feel right to feel sorry for someone supposedly accomplished enough to become the Leader of the Opposition. Yeesh.

I was a little impressed that he was copying the "priorities" approach of PMSH, until the "poverty" promise. Couldn't we have a policy proposal and not just another aspirational statement? Thats the kind of thing you hear from a 19 year old South Carolina beauty contestant....

"Dion said he does not follow the polls, "

Next question for Mansbridge to ask:
Mr. Dion you’re in the business of politics but you've stated that you do not follow the polls.

So my question to you is: Are you an idiot, a liar or both?

I've Been Everywhere, or, On The Road Again

“We have made tremendous efforts,” he said. "I have walked around the street everywhere, and everywhere in Outremont, Liberal values are coming out on top.”
(lib.caca) ...-

I've Been Everywhere
I've been everywhere, man, I've been everywhere, man [...]
Of travel, I've had my share, man, I've been everywhere.
I been to Paris, Chicoutimi, Jonquiere, Halberta, Ford MacMuder, Toronto, Regine,
Acadie,
Ottawa, (next stop?) ...-
(H/T Hank Snow-Willy Nelson)

I will give Mansbridge credit for asking the question but being somewhat suspicious in nature I have to wonder if he doesn't have a dog in this fight.

A CPC majority would be disastrous for the CBC and especially the news division. Were that to happen, Peter would undoubtedly find himself on a much shorter leash.

With Harper passing legislation on fixed election dates and stating he intends to serve his term, the Lib backroom boys have an ever decreasing timeline to throw Dion overboard and replace him with the likes of Iggy puff, who incidentally has a more credible position on Afstan.

The cries from the Dion camp that Iggy is sabotaging the Quebec by elections would indicate the same.

If the LPC are going to ditch Dion it will happen sooner rather than later. They need the time to re-group and move further to the right under Iggy. If not and Dion maintains control the power players realize the future is not bright.

Now I ask you. Does Peter have a dog in this fight?

Syncro

Funny, he had time to come out west and defend the wheat board against the 62% of farmers who want marketing choice. It's not one of the top 4, but that he found time for.

According to the general feedback on this thread, when the MSM beat up on Harper, they're sticking up for their Liberal masters. When the MSM beat up on Dion, they've turned against their Liberal master because they're...in search of a new Liberal master.

I'm not sure this is what's actually happening in the real world, but whatever makes you happy...

Early in the interview it looked like the typical CBC/Librano interview, then came 'The Question'.
It certainly looked like the CBC has decided to dump Dion as Ward has said, but could it be just a case of friendly fire at the CBC?
Perhaps we need an inquiry.

maz2, you're an inspiration

He's a real everywhere Man,
Sitting in his Everywhere Land,
Making all his everywhere plans
for nobody.

Elucidating his crazy points of view,
Knows not where he's going to,
He’s not a bit like me and you.
Everywhere Man, please listen,
You haven’t a clue what you’re missing,
Everywhere Man, the world’s not at your command.

He's as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Everywhere Man can you see me at all?
Everywhere Man, don't worry,
Take your time, don't hurry,
Leave it all till somebody else
lends you a hand.

Elucidating his crazy points of view,
Knows not where he's going to,
He’s not a bit like me and you.

Everywhere Man, please listen,
You haven’t a clue what you’re missing,
Everywhere Man, the world’s not at your command.

He's a real Everywhere Man,
Sitting in his Everywhere Land,
Making all his everywhere plans
for nobody.
Making all his everywhere plans
for nobody.
Making all his everywhere plans
for nobody.

One thing is certain - as much as I'm gloating over the self-destruction going on, I want an election with Dion as leader. I suspect that the Conservatives do too, and wouldn't be surprised to see them orchestrate their defeat before the knives are finished doing their job on Dion.

Perry

I assume you were referring to me, it's not so much about being happy as being observant.

This from a recent Town Hall meeting of devoted Libs in Calgary. The Garthacle was presiding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXAXjr_veE

I'm of the same mind as Kate, Dijon is a done deal and Harper will make the um..er..Throne Speech egregious enough that one of the other three will precipitate the fall of this government.

Syncro

It's the cover up that'll get you, Dion's supporters getting desperate

Prominent Liberal Blogger "Red Tory",

suggests the Chronicle Herald fabricated the story, in an effort to protect Dion. A damning charge, with no apparant evidence to back it up.

In the comments thread of his post he wrote the following:

"That article in the Chronicle is unsubstantiated rubbish, imho. Baseless, unsourced allegations of supposed wrong-doing that amounted to nothing."

Here:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9132732&postID=6402070399892010488

was "I'll do my best" the answer? wasn't the question, "Why have you personally, not gone to Afghanistan"?

it's not like Peter Mansbridge didn't lead slowly into the question here, perhaps giving Dion a full minute to conjure up some sort of real response. It's funny to see that some people were seriously thinking he's the new intellect of the Liberals. Does intelligence in one language not translate into another? It isn't his lack of english expertise I'm questioning...

I agree with some others here, (ward @ 7.45...) the msm starts asking real questions, only when they decide you're not this years model.

as for Dion's location on the tuesday after monday's byelections,
it's funny to note how far the liberals have fallen in Outremont.
Wasn't this Marc Lalonde's old riding? the same person that said regarding the National Energy Program... "We know what we're doing... we really do".
?

Perry, the MSM has turned on Liberals before, just ask Paul Martin. While they have been busy going after Harper lately, it's no big deal - it is what it is. It's easier to report negative news - if it bleeds it leads. They have the same ignorance of economic or foreign policy issues whether Liberals or Conservatives are in power.

You must admit the CBC, across the board in their programming, is decidely anti-Harper right now. Peter Mansbridge, while a little too artsy for me, seems a fairly professional journalist as do others at CBC. They're in the minority though.

Anyway, when the MSM smells blood, they go for it, like a school of hammerheads. Dion is bleeding badly right now, and many have tried to encourage him, most know he isn't likely to ever become PM.

Should the polls be wrong and the Libs retain Outremont, Dion will get lots of credit and likely, after revelling in a near miss, force a general election. It will be a rookie mistake, but after all he is a rookie leader.

Conservatives get asked tough questions; so should Liberals. Do you think Mansbridge's question was unfair, Perry?

Anyway, I don't personally stress what the MSM says, they don't have that much influence anymore. In the horseraces that are elections, they still like to back the winner. The CBC presumes itself bulletproof, but should they suspect they are on the chopping block, you can be sure of real time coverage of their plight, as they did when the Libs cut their funding, with great gnashing of teeth.

Perhaps Mansbridge's interview may mark a new tone for CBC, with an attempt to present more than the personal views of the staff. I doubt it though.

Did Dion say "Twaining?" hehe

I have my suspicions that the Iggy sabotage story is a plant by Dion and his folks. They are looking for an excuse in case they lose Outrement. They also are hoping that some slime sticks to Iggy in order to cool some Libs on him. I think it's safe to say, that Steffy senses the wolf at his heels.

Ward@7:45

Let me also agree with you. I watched the video and was thinking something isn't right.....

Good call

Of course when Outremont,a Liberal bastion, votes NDP and tosses the Liberals, it is not Stephanes' or the Librals fault. It is because Outremont is rebelling agains Harper and the Tories.

What a bunch of stupidity, is this the best French Quebec could come up with for a supposed intellectual. No wonder the ordinary Quebecer doesn't like him.

Of course when Outremont,a Liberal bastion, votes NDP and tosses the Liberals, it is not Stephanes' or the Librals fault. It is because Outremont is rebelling agains Harper and the Tories.

What a bunch of stupidity, is this the best French Quebec could come up with for a supposed intellectual. No wonder the ordinary Quebecer doesn't like him.

Sorry about the double post, but when I hit send the first I got a weird error message starting with Rebuild Files failed followed by about 6 other lines

his english has gotten better i see....too bad his ideas have't

Just finished watching the cli - wow. He got nailed by mansbridge. Best clip this ear.

"Alright we'll leave it at that". Priceless.

Citoyen Dion, aka I've Been Everywhere, has been keeping a score/report card on his own caucus members. Professor Dion labels his own MPs as dolts/stupids who must now recant and confess the error of their ways. Dion names not one, not two, not 3, but, 24 Lib MPs as idiots/stupids.
Dion Who? you ask?
Dion The Idiot.
Twenty-four knives waiting to be plunged.
...-

How to alienate your caucus: "...Mr. [Stéphane] Dion admitted that the 24 Liberal MPs who, in May 2006, voted in favour of the extension of the [Afghanistan] mission until February 2009, had made an error." [Presse Canadienne]...-
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070915.WBwblogolitics20070915145615/WBStory/WBwblogolitics/

I agree. It shows the complete disregard that Dion has for his fellow MPs by publicly criticizing them for voting for an extension of the Afghanistan mission. Dion is basically implying that they are not intelligent enough to listen to both sides of the debate and make a sound judgment. What makes it even worse is that the mission was started while the Liberals were in power, and Stephane Dion has been disingenuous when making the statement that the Afghanistan mission changed to a combat mission under the conservative government.

http://tonysviewpoint.blogspot.com/2007/09/hypocrisy-in-stephane-dions-position-on_15.html

"More evidence his head is in the clouds - apparently NDP doing well against his handpicked candidate because, believe it or not, voters are mad at Conservatives (yeah, he said that).More evidence his head is in the clouds - apparently NDP doing well against his handpicked candidate because, believe it or not, voters are mad at Conservatives (yeah, he said that)."

I agree....earth to Dion this is a Liberal riding and has been for 75 years. Saying this makes him look like and idiot, moron and a number of other names. Anybody reading this or hearing it would say what kind of answer is this? If the voters in Outremont hate the Conservatives why wouldn't they stick with the Liberals. We all know why. They don't like Dion nor the Liberal Party.

Didn't the libs put in a throne speech way back when that they would end child poverty? I seem to remember that. More evidence that Dion is moving the party to the extreme left.

Maybe Dion in his fairyland has a magic wand he can wave so that poverty in Canada disappears. Hang on to your wallets my friends if Dion and the Liberals ever get back into power.

However, I predict that Dion will be leader in the next election. Remember the last leadership run took a year. That will be good for Harper and the Conservatives.

The pundits are now laughing at him and it looks good on our dual citizen from France.

Yes hats off, but dont be fooled. This will mean some intemperate qestion from Mansbridge to Harper the next time they get an interview, regardless of its relevance.

SH is a little better at thinking on his feet though.

Given that Peter probably doesnt prepare his own questions, hats off as well to the producer who approved the line of questioning.

Citoyen Dion hasn't visited Afghanisatn because his handlers (keepers?) know he'd be shot at from all sides there....a half literate French retard in a Big Bird costume makes a mighty tempting target. ;-)

Listening to the infantile "talking points" from this buffoon I was waiting for the CBC announcer to close the segment by announcing; "Dion Street was brought to you today by the letter "R" (for retard)

The more I see of this guy the more I;m convinced he's retarded...arrested socialization and personality development.

Shamrock,

I agree the MSM is going after Dion because they smell blood - the same way they've been after Iggy for his nonstop gaffes, and Tory for his gaffes so far here in Ontario. While it's always hard to disprove the partisan critique of the media's approach to reporting, it's also hard to definitively prove as well. Someone suggested that Mansbridge might have a dog in this fight. Much as I loathe Mansbridge - I think he's an intellectual lightweight and only a very average reporter at the best of times - I simply don't believe he is political. He likes a good dust-up, though, and if he can get a politician to squirm, he's happy enough to do so regardless of political stripe. Does anybody remember his "You're not going to be prime minister, so why should anyone take you seriously?" questions to Layton in 2004? Ouch. Fair question, I suppose, though it kind of plays against the entire concept of the westminster parliamentary system, but I digress.

I think Harper got off on the wrong foot with the media, considering most MSM outlets endorsed him, and were quite viscious in their reporting of the Liberals in 2006 (and, again, quite rightly, IMO). When he showed up with Emerson and Fortier, and then picked a fight with the press gallery, I think that got their backs up. Now, I'm not one to defend the PPG. If ever there was a band of insular bottom-feeders that needed a collective kick to its behind, this would probably be the group. But, if you're looking for reasons why the MSM - and the PPG in particular - have been so quick to critique Harper (and not always without reason) - this could be one of the reasons.

WL. Please do not insult my mentally retarded(down's syndrome)brother by calling bombardion retarded. My brother was born that way, the idiot dion is a product of the librano machine/family compact.

Mansbridge did indeed ask a tough question but then proceeded to pull all the teeth out of the question by softening the blow, supplying pat answers and give Mr. Dion the time to formulate his reply.

What is truly astounding is the fact that Dion still could not come up with a satisfactory reply. Mr. Dion simply has not considered the other side of the argument on Afghanistan.

Mr. Dion was put in charge of the Liberals because global warming was supposed to be the big issue. Unfortunately,the weather, science and public sentiment have not cooperated. He is simply a one issue leader.

You are so right, "hollinm", Dion can't be accused of rational thinking when he said the people are supporting the NDP because they don't like the Conservatives? God, take him out of his misery.

Perhaps Peter realizes that dion is not his pass to a senate seat or the GG office. So, before he is too old for either, he has to pick a different horse. Sheila Copps had a column last week regarding PMSH's relationship with the press. She says the cbc is very fearful of a conservative majority as many think PMSH will abolish the gravy train.
That could be the reason they are starting to bash dion. To get on the good side of the PM.

All you liberals and tories are worried about is how can we look good and get elected. And that's all.

MaryT... the press sees the writing on the wall of the CBC Building when the Tories get their majority... "FOR SALE!"

Hopefully the Tories will actually carry out what the CBC fears: a massive saleoff of all these pathetic Crown Corporations.

Kate,

While I agree an election with Dion is a winner from a con point of view, I dont know what difference it would make.

IgnatIeff (putting the "I" in politics) is not any better and represents other problems.

Kennedy the Himbo?

Rae, as odd as it sounds, is and was their only hope of absolute disaster.

The Liberal party is in real trouble. But I would rather the election be held sooner rather than later. The Liberals would be suicidal to risk regicide and then have the new leader also lose. The election loss will flush Dion down the drain. Iggy will be elected and then will be ancient when the next election rolls around.

Call the election anytme, the Liberals have no machine and will be blown apart at the first wind. If you thought the last Liberal campaign was badly run.....just wait for this one.

I'm not a fan of Stephen Harper generally, nor do I think Jack Layton will be able to do much better than he has so far, but Stephan Dion takes the cake as far as shitty leadership goes. He's an academic and I would surmise he is an intelligent individual on an one to one level, but he is absolutely awful in the role of party leader. He 's less charismatic than Stephen Harper, which says a lot.

I would love to see all the major party leaders flushed out. Peter McKay would be a nice replacement for Harper. Gerrard Kennedy would have been my Liberal party choice, and Layton..sheesh..I dunno what the NDP has to draw from to replace that guy. (That's not a credit to Jack) They need some kind of high profile 3rd way proponent if they want to broaden their appeal. Oh and the Greens...I actually like Elizabeth May, although I think running in Peter McKay's riding is suicidal and ridiculous timing. The first point in history when the Green's may be able to get a seat and she takes on Goliath!?

Anyway, what I'm getting at is that there is a real void of visionaries that can unite the country in favour of any sort of vision.

What's the deal with Honest(?) Ralphie Goodale taking French lessons this summer?

Are the knives already unsheathed for,"It's not fair",Stephanie D-yawn?

What of Puffin Iggy and Excrement Rae?

Already been hidden with all of the other crap?

"... you cannot dispute that I did a lot since I am a leader... I will do my best to go there"

ROFL

The words "leader" and "Stephane Dion" are truly an oxymoron when combined. And he'd really "do his best" to stay home, as his snivelling, cowardly position on Afghanistan wouldn't be too endearing with the Canuck troops stationed there. Harper should recant his position and commit our troops to this combat area until their presence is no longer required, rather than taking the politically expedient path to remove them, and distance his party from this clown and his bunch of sob-sisters.

Another oddity: I wasn't aware that the Government had to craft its Throne Speech around the talking points of the Opposition, but apparently Dion believes this is a "must do".

Tool.

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

Sorry for the late post on this, I was out of the city and away from technology all weekend...

If Dion did go to Afghanistan, whose troops would he be going to visit? Canada's or France's? I guess the latter would be a more pleasant visit for him.

If he did cross paths with a French soldier/airman (from France) that picture would be gold for the next Federal campaign, with the caption: "Dion visits with soldiers in Afghanistan"

I posted a comment here earlier, but it said it was being moderated. It has yet to show up. Is this a new policy? I didn't say anything too crazy or controversial.

I think DeYawn, with thre rest of the R.A.G Party - that is the Red[LIEberal] And Green Party - should chip in a dolar and walk down the street and find a homeles person and insult him/her and give that person $50.00 for a photo opportnity. This would top the total spending by "Cretch - in" on the less fortunate in this country.

I agree totaly with Shawn Abigail [6:10 PM] in the folowing comment:

'Interesting. Dion has labeled poverty as one of his top 4 non-negotiable priorities for the throne speech. Did poverty in Canada all of a sudden jump in the short period the Conservatives have been in office? Why wasn't it a priority in the decade of Liberal rule before that? If poverty in Canada could be fixed by a bit of government resolve, surely the Liberals would have done so. And if it can't be fixed by a bit of government resolve, why is Dion making such a bit deal about it?"

I think it is beause the poor have no money to give to the LIEberal Party - sorry, I ment the R.A.G Party - and in their eyes all the years in power and doing little to help would be an insult to the average Canadian. When "Cretch - in" gave that small amount to that man, with "Cretch - in" representing Canada, I was insulted. And you may have noticed that "Cretch - in" was the only one who gave him money - why didn't the other cabinet ministers with him give anything, because they were to busy planning on getting envelopes of cash.

Please, please Deyawn, call an election. I think my party would do better than the R.A.G. in any ridding. Seriously though; Deyawn will not dare call down the government because not all LIEberals are not as loyal as Jasson Cherniak. The division in the LIEberal party will not be fixed with a new leader - for that takes time - something the LIEberals have little of. Therefore: Please, please Deyawn, call an election

My guess on why he hasn't gone to A'stan: he doesn't 'live' in the real world. He lives in the 'socio-political' world in his mind.
It's easy to talk about A'stan, but it's just that...a talking point, an issue,someplace 'over there'.It has probably never occurred to him that he could visit.
Mansbridge just gave him a new 'idea'.

A falling Puffin draws a thousand knives.

Given the polls though, the problem remains the Liberal brand. It needs a lot more demolishing. The longer there's an internal fight played up in the media, the more the brand will publicly unravel.

its been a long time since the liberals had to fight an election without the public purse as a backstop.

The press gallery has turned on Dion, check out the Q&A at this press conference!

http://canuckpolitics.com/2007/08/23/stephane-dion-kyoto-afghanistan-confidence-votes/

They keep asking him why he won't just grow a pair and defeat the government already.